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  • @BaldOmniMan
    @BaldOmniMan Жыл бұрын

    Nothing compares to pull-ups. You can do iliac Pulldowns, but why? - Tom Platz (probably)

  • @antonbelyaev8295

    @antonbelyaev8295

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a quote from Tom Latz, another great bodybuilder

  • @wr8196

    @wr8196

    Жыл бұрын

    @@antonbelyaev8295 Definitely one of the bodybuilders of all time!

  • @ugbuga99

    @ugbuga99

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing compares to your hand. You can have sex with a woman, but why?- Tom Fapz

  • @igee1605

    @igee1605

    Жыл бұрын

    YES

  • @essewaxegard9423

    @essewaxegard9423

    Жыл бұрын

    Lee priest also known as Tom gatz would agree with you

  • @jamessmith-hq5mr
    @jamessmith-hq5mr Жыл бұрын

    Unlike 98% of the youtube "fitness" channels, Dr. Mike puts out quality content instead of junk volume.

  • @Cenot4ph

    @Cenot4ph

    Жыл бұрын

    unfortunately lot of people still following channels like AthleanX

  • @Vegaman18
    @Vegaman18 Жыл бұрын

    Your content is an excellent balance of hilarious and educational. Thank you sir.

  • @RenaissancePeriodization

    @RenaissancePeriodization

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! - Dr. Mike

  • @powderedwaterpudding
    @powderedwaterpudding Жыл бұрын

    Watching these videos for free feels like theft. Some of the absolute best content in KZread period.

  • @phil5037
    @phil5037 Жыл бұрын

    That’s crazy that Dr. Mike was floating in mid air in between each of those demonstration sets.

  • @RenaissancePeriodization

    @RenaissancePeriodization

    Жыл бұрын

    MAGIC POWERS. - Dr. Mike

  • @mrnaizguy
    @mrnaizguy Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Mike casually giving better pullup advice than most self-proclaimed bodyweight experts out there. By the way, slower eccentrics are truly great. Appreciate that point a lot. Dropping fast into the dead hang will not only create less gains but will also annihilate your elbows and shoulders over the long run.

  • @DILFDylF

    @DILFDylF

    3 ай бұрын

    For people who aren't very well trained, doing slow, eccentric ONLY pull-ups can be more than enough to make gains for weeks if not months. Use a stool or something to get your chest up to the bar, and lower yourself down as slowly as possible. If you can't rep out full ROM pull-ups, doing that 10-15 times will almost certainly get you sore

  • @alexanderliz9484
    @alexanderliz9484 Жыл бұрын

    I love that you can clearly see who watches RP when at the gym . Game changing series

  • @immune18

    @immune18

    4 ай бұрын

    One of the most deluded comments I've ever seen lmao, wow.

  • @richtheunstable3359

    @richtheunstable3359

    3 ай бұрын

    They spend more time checking out the muscles on other men than working out?🤔

  • @andrewcouture
    @andrewcouture Жыл бұрын

    Ive never needed to pay for a coach or a trainer. This is the best channel on KZread. Thank you for everything man

  • @BaldOmniMan
    @BaldOmniMan Жыл бұрын

    7:23 *sends back pics*

  • @cyberserk5614
    @cyberserk5614 Жыл бұрын

    I was always a tall lanky guy who avoided pullups until my late 30s. Then I became a father and hadn't much time for training so a basic home gym was the best solution. Now I'm 55 and hear compliments about my lats from people who trained in gyms their whole life. So apparently genetics wasn't the problem.

  • @David_99778

    @David_99778

    Ай бұрын

    Yes I m pretty tall myself 6’7 and I used toI want to start pullups in the past but didn t train that often I wanna get back into them and do them first in every back day from now

  • @pratikharpale3521
    @pratikharpale3521 Жыл бұрын

    targeting the muscle series is all i need. its the best!!! love u dr mike nd team!!!

  • @PriusTurbo
    @PriusTurbo Жыл бұрын

    The production on this video is amazing! Don't change anything. Lighting sound graphics all spot on.

  • @leavapath
    @leavapath Жыл бұрын

    Love how you explain all the nuances in a movement Thanks for your videos

  • @Kyle111
    @Kyle111 Жыл бұрын

    Another tip for those who swing and can’t control their lower body is to put your feet a little out in front of you. It will tense up your abs and keep you stiffer. It’s not an L-sit pullup so your abs shouldn’t (hopefully) be the limiting factor.

  • @kali3828

    @kali3828

    Жыл бұрын

    This will make you round forward at the top which biases the lats. Thinking of clenching your but, relaxing your abs, and pushing your hips forward will make you have a curved spine at the top of the pull up which will bias the other back muscles.

  • @oliverantoniou

    @oliverantoniou

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup this works

  • @tone3560

    @tone3560

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kali3828 Either way works and hits the lats slightly different...Id rather engage my core so there is no weak link in the chain when doing the pullup

  • @ChristianJunkar

    @ChristianJunkar

    Жыл бұрын

    I thing you mean L-Hang Pull Up, and as well, if you just ower slowly like Dr Mike says you wont get much swing even in a tight lower back, stetched abs position with legs just hanging straight down

  • @Kyle111

    @Kyle111

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChristianJunkar kinda yeah, just with your feet slightly out in front of you so that you’re tense. If by L-Hang you mean something like a lower level L-Sit than yes. That’s what I mean

  • @pandajohn5911
    @pandajohn5911 Жыл бұрын

    Aaaah amazing video, amazing info, amazing gainz.. Thank you yet again!

  • @juanwick8820
    @juanwick8820 Жыл бұрын

    Learning a lot from your technique series Dr Mike. Thank you 💪😊

  • @bakedjohnwick4793
    @bakedjohnwick4793 Жыл бұрын

    Your video’s are getting professional af! Love the content man ✌🏽 🇦🇺

  • @uno3863
    @uno3863 Жыл бұрын

    Right on time 🤘🏾my back workout is tomorrow can't wait 👍🏾

  • @evantfunk
    @evantfunk Жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing! The lat pull down machine just broke at my gym.

  • @scottyg5403
    @scottyg5403 Жыл бұрын

    Wow!Excellent video! Great info on improving my pull ups!Thank you!

  • @senfdazu5632
    @senfdazu5632 Жыл бұрын

    awesome series - perfect exercise 😎

  • @BELLSOFSTEEL
    @BELLSOFSTEEL Жыл бұрын

    Quality content as usual! 💪💪

  • @coreydw1
    @coreydw1 Жыл бұрын

    Dr Mike, love the feel of down sets for the connection you are talking about

  • @DILFDylF

    @DILFDylF

    3 ай бұрын

    For those who aren't strong enough to do weighted pullups yet, a way of doing the down sets would be to have a stool handy, and then once you reach concentric failure, use the stool to do a few eccentric only reps

  • @robertbritt3129
    @robertbritt31299 ай бұрын

    Doctor mike doing his best to mimic gravity is all the comedy i need...thank you mike very very comical

  • @EyyLmaoo
    @EyyLmaoo Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Always look forward to doing weighted pull ups. Started w/ 2.5 lbs as you said and hit 6 reps 40lbs this week.

  • @slibbs2869

    @slibbs2869

    10 ай бұрын

    Alright starting with 2.5 this Thursday we’ll see how it goes

  • @novalovan

    @novalovan

    3 ай бұрын

    first attempt doing weighted pullup with 22lbs db, i think my front delt/rotator got injured and now i can't deadhang with deepest stretch. lesson learned.

  • @johnnykarate_SweepLeg
    @johnnykarate_SweepLeg Жыл бұрын

    3:40 ... The slow descent and momentary deadhang at the bottom. The Beastie Boys said it best with, *_"Let it flow - let yourself go... Slow and low - that is the tempo"_*

  • @bytetacos
    @bytetacos Жыл бұрын

    Love this! Will be my new go to chin pull-ups. Badass!! 👏🏽👏🏽 does Dr Mike have a kettle bell series??

  • @nathanwilbanks4825
    @nathanwilbanks4825 Жыл бұрын

    Love this series! Thanks for the great content!

  • @rik9833

    @rik9833

    Жыл бұрын

    for real, this content is godsend for all lifters

  • @Hotterman10

    @Hotterman10

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, the tips are tried and true.

  • @amirmotmaen9838
    @amirmotmaen9838 Жыл бұрын

    Great series!

  • @ThirdEyePried
    @ThirdEyePried Жыл бұрын

    Heeeeey a rock climbing shout out! Bodybuilding and bouldering coming together to lat spread our way to the top! My day has been made.

  • @FeelnLikeIDoEveryDay
    @FeelnLikeIDoEveryDay Жыл бұрын

    "Light in the way it's perfectly connecting." This is gold. I switched up my training a year ago to light 15-25 rep sets. I've increased my VO2 max from 46 to 51. Gone from 200+lbs with 140lbs lean mass. To 184lbs with.......140lbs lean mass. Leave your ego at the door folks. Heavy weight is overrated. It's more about being resilient to outside pressure by building internal pressure. Like the feeling you get underwater but on land. Sometimes I come out of a set feeling like I was just underwater. It's incredible and allows me to feel like I'm hitting that kaioken×4 on earth for the first time without breaking my body with weight it shouldn't be handling like that. Use heavy weight lightly and use light weight heavily. My workout sessions turn into beam struggles. I love it. This video made me laugh a bunch. Thanks.

  • @crosen88
    @crosen88 Жыл бұрын

    great tips!!

  • @patrickcarr1824
    @patrickcarr1824 Жыл бұрын

    I have found if I squeeze my glutes and abs to brace my core, I don't swing nearly as much AND get better SFR, better mind/muscle, and a few more reps. Worth a try!

  • @ChevyRedneckGFX

    @ChevyRedneckGFX

    Жыл бұрын

    bracing the core is honestly what youre supposed to do somewhat, some people have to que it to though such as yourself. Some just do it without thinking

  • @MICHAELPHILIPSINC
    @MICHAELPHILIPSINC9 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Dr Mike.

  • @OldestPagans
    @OldestPagans Жыл бұрын

    I always thought going to the clavicle was a different variation - not what you do when you’re stronger…feeling called out for doing the easy ones hahaha gotta get on it!

  • @likemy
    @likemy Жыл бұрын

    I find that doing other hanging exercises (in particular hanging leg raises) gets you much better at avoiding swinging during other calisthenics movements

  • @billycarlile6378
    @billycarlile6378 Жыл бұрын

    This is fucking crazy!! I'm adding in pull ups to my meso that starts next week and searched to see if RP has any tips. Yall posted the day I needed it. This isn't the first time either. Thank you

  • @jakescakes

    @jakescakes

    Жыл бұрын

    Is it really so crazy though?

  • @moadly
    @moadly Жыл бұрын

    the craziest thing is, you arent using a script. Your ability to generate words never seizes to amaze me.

  • @ahmedfareed1995
    @ahmedfareed1995 Жыл бұрын

    this needs at least a million views

  • @vinced7618
    @vinced7618 Жыл бұрын

    Encouraging to hear that Mike and I have the same pull up ROM. Even with band assist I can't get more than my chin over the bar.

  • @melon8870
    @melon8870 Жыл бұрын

    perfect timing

  • @tonytony4350
    @tonytony4350 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video 👍

  • @albertoreyes3403
    @albertoreyes3403 Жыл бұрын

    This my dawg right here mannnnnn 💪😬

  • @stevenuseda6317
    @stevenuseda6317 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! And right before back day lol. Just started programming pull ups in 3 times a week. Can only do a solid 8 with control and chest to bar though

  • @oaschbeidl

    @oaschbeidl

    Жыл бұрын

    "Only" Dude, 8 controlled chest to bar pull ups is awesome, I can't even do a single one because I lack the strength in the uppermost 10cm or so (and not being super lean doesn't help either). Chin above bar is no problem, but for now I just pull up unassisted as far as I can, then do the last bit assisted (I have a pull up bar on a wall bar setup, so I can just put my feet up on the wall bars for assistance) and slow controlled negatives.

  • @GrosseBrueste
    @GrosseBrueste Жыл бұрын

    Danke!

  • @showtimepop7255
    @showtimepop7255 Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff🔥🔥💪

  • @dankspain
    @dankspain Жыл бұрын

    Not really sure why but months ago I injured my shoulder, wouldn’t go away. At first doing pull ups would hurt like any exercise, took a break, and on the first day doing pull ups again the pain has gone away almost completely. Insane.

  • @mazi1597
    @mazi1597 Жыл бұрын

    I am currently experimenting with weighted pull ups. Once i managed 10 BW reps pull ups, i went to weighted. I went from 10kgx5 reps, to 10kgx7reps, then 15kgx5 reps which im currently on. I can RM 35kg currently, going for 40kg! SInce i have around 10kg of fat to lose, i am essentially doing weighted by default. I think it will benefit a lot to my pull ups as i lose weight, and i am much stronger with just 3 weeks of weighted pull up training. The issue is that i can just do 11xBW rep pull ups still, so i find myself getting strong but my endurance is still pretty low. Hopefully it gets better as i lose weight and do different variations with pull ups! (Gonna try going for 1RM at beginning then unload rep until its regular BW next time to see how that goes)

  • @likemy

    @likemy

    Жыл бұрын

    for some reason, the relationship between weightloss and pullup ability is superlinear. Losing just five pounds makes pullups easier than taking five pounds off the bar would on other exercises. Dr Mike mentions this phenomena in one of his pullup programming videos

  • @inkarn8915
    @inkarn8915 Жыл бұрын

    Just about to head to the gym and my first workout is the pull up. Thanks!

  • @richardparker471

    @richardparker471

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember my first pull up day, i used the assisted machine to get sets of 10-12 and was sore asf the next day good luck

  • @inkarn8915

    @inkarn8915

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@richardparker471 I appreciate the support. I just meant pull ups is my first Thursday exercise. I am on a 5 day full body split. Never really had the pull up broken down like this for me.

  • @rik9833
    @rik9833 Жыл бұрын

    RP is the technique godfather

  • @blaine6097
    @blaine6097 Жыл бұрын

    7:50 lmfao that had me dying. You've triggered all the "kipping" crossfitters for sure

  • @Guitar5986
    @Guitar5986 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid. I injured one lat a few years back & ever since then I can't go full stretch without risk of injury. Guess I just have to settle for less gains.

  • @zuhairyassin505
    @zuhairyassin505 Жыл бұрын

    😂 the humor man one of the best

  • @nickg9639
    @nickg96393 ай бұрын

    this is great advice. i been doing pullups for years just as a hobbie to keep in shape. i have a pullup bar at home and i always do 100% full range, with a 1 second pause at top. its actually pretty crazy how good my v taper is from doing these, and im not even that good. i can crank out 15 reps with this from. my pure max reps with shit form is 20. either way, i can honestly say i think doing pullups in my spare time was one of hte best hting i ever decided to do in my life

  • @Ahmed-jv7oc
    @Ahmed-jv7oc10 ай бұрын

    I just started weighted pullups, man they feel GOOD

  • @highseassailor
    @highseassailor4 ай бұрын

    Unloaded after loaded, brilliant!

  • @_koschwarz
    @_koschwarz Жыл бұрын

    Flex abs and glutes to avoid swinging. Helps a lot.

  • @frenchguyst-croissant3432
    @frenchguyst-croissant3432 Жыл бұрын

    I owe a huge thx to Adam Ragusa for recommending your channel ..its exactly what i needed ( real expertise and no bullsh**$)

  • @pablocaladan817
    @pablocaladan817 Жыл бұрын

    I love Mike

  • @soulshinobi
    @soulshinobi Жыл бұрын

    Skinny 125 lb guy here. At peak pull-up practice I was starting with 25 lbs around my waist for a set of 9, then I would drop 5 lb for each subsequent set down to body weight. In retrospect I think the first four sets were quality but the last two were a little bit junk. If you do drop sets like this just be mindful of how good your lat contraction is.

  • @7mustang2011
    @7mustang20119 ай бұрын

    I love this cause for years I feel my last better with under hand grip . And all the workout channels say pronated it superior

  • @airborne99
    @airborne99 Жыл бұрын

    No script!

  • @rjcasale457
    @rjcasale4579 ай бұрын

    I was happy that I had worked up to about 14-16 reps. Slowing down and adding proper full stretch at the end... put me down to 6-8.

  • @Steven-bq5fu
    @Steven-bq5fu Жыл бұрын

    6:30 Dr. Mike, you said "for whatever look you have." That'd be an interesting video. Different bodybuilder looks, builds... skeletal frame (anthropometry ratios) and nuances of its potential influences on hypertrophy on different muscle targets from some lifts potentially being harder or having different SFRs, and all that. Debunking genetics for aesthetics (or proving.) Even super targeted guides like "if you have a stupid long torso and short little dwarf legs, try substituting this lift." My own interest besides curiosity is that I'd like an idea of what to expect at my own height and frame. 6' 210 pounds, super duper upper back/lat compared to chest because I used to work concrete, so much that it has affected my posture for 15 years. What goals I could shoot for. What would my sort of "expected" physique look like. What timeline, too. I've only been seriously lifting for about 6 months, full body. So, should I not even think about specialization until I've been lifting and just putting on muscle mass for, idk, two years, lean out and then have a solid idea of what my natural "filled out" proportions might be? Then think about specializing different muscles? Thanks! Love the vids, been a team full ROM sub for a couple months and digging it. So much info to satisfy my adhd. No competitive aspirations, just want to get sexy!

  • @mofozi571
    @mofozi571 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video bro

  • @brianlyle7017
    @brianlyle70175 ай бұрын

    Neutral grip sternum chins are my favorite.

  • @Trichromium
    @Trichromium Жыл бұрын

    Best shirt in fitness!

  • @georgedavies5865
    @georgedavies5865 Жыл бұрын

    Would you be able to produce a video on increasing strength in your shoulders? My shoulder press has plateaued for like 3 years :/

  • @RenaissancePeriodization

    @RenaissancePeriodization

    Жыл бұрын

    We will have a video about how to increase your shoulder press ability! It's already been recorded and should be out in the next few months! - Dr. Mike

  • @LohJiaHung

    @LohJiaHung

    Жыл бұрын

    They already have an entire series on how to break through plateaus.

  • @Buddhamind11
    @Buddhamind1110 ай бұрын

    LOVE YOU MIKE 😘

  • @lauragonzalez1199
    @lauragonzalez1199 Жыл бұрын

    These videos are the best super informative thanks . Could you please do a video on rear delts with dumb bells and one on dumbbell row 🙏. Great stuff as always.

  • @fifis101
    @fifis101 Жыл бұрын

    Tell us the truth Mike......You can't actually do a pull up can you?!

  • @EmperorPenguinXRemas
    @EmperorPenguinXRemas Жыл бұрын

    I really like these sternem pull up, but higher reps on the assisted machine

  • @nonattylimits
    @nonattylimits Жыл бұрын

    Pull ups are king!

  • @michaelbarletta1024
    @michaelbarletta10243 ай бұрын

    I just recently started leaning back and trying to touch my sternum with hands just outside shoulder with during my pull-ups so it hits my lats more. For the longest time I was only feeling it in the teres major. This makes it more of a row in the shortened position making a lot harder without any load.

  • @BearFackerr
    @BearFackerr Жыл бұрын

    I owe RP so much muscle tissue.

  • @emilio2131
    @emilio2131 Жыл бұрын

    Please do a bench press for chest hypertrophy

  • @robert50173
    @robert50173 Жыл бұрын

    Question: What is the smart principle to apply once full ROM is not achievable? Keep going with partial reps? or quit?

  • @rafaleon199937
    @rafaleon199937 Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Mike will you teach use how to do a Muscle-Up? Please 🥺

  • @squadforlife4654
    @squadforlife4654 Жыл бұрын

    What would you recommend to someone who wants to add pullups to their program but can't do a single one at all and there's no assisted pullup machine? Assisted pullups with a band? Use the smith machine but have your legs on the floor?

  • @Ryan-ys2bq
    @Ryan-ys2bq Жыл бұрын

    Good solid advice especially from a guy who can't do a pull up himself it seems

  • @a.b.1044
    @a.b.1044 Жыл бұрын

    Mind blown

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate Жыл бұрын

    Some killer tips in this video! 🔥🔥🔥 I love rotating in pullups. There's a ton of variety so they don't get too stale. But, too much volume on them can definitely irritate various tendons. I'm currently at 3 sets of chest to bar pullups (~2" from the bottom of my sternum), twice a week. If I need a little extra volume for lats / upper back, I'll do lat prayers or lighter weight pulldowns. Currently, I'm loving a grip width just inside my shoulders (overhand thumbless), slight hollow body, moderate stretch at the bottom, explosive concentric, ~1 second eccentric. On the last rep I'll milk that last eccentric for ~3-4 seconds. Lights up my mid back a TON. I think as I get stronger I'll switch to trying arched back pullups, but currently they're too difficult for me to get enough useful reps. So I just do lat pulldowns with that posture. 💪

  • @tytrue8633
    @tytrue8633 Жыл бұрын

    Your opinion of stretching the lats without completely locking out the arms?

  • @catalinserban2211
    @catalinserban2211 Жыл бұрын

    I came back to click the like button . I was feeling shame for not doing it first time 😁

  • @jeetroy8723
    @jeetroy87233 ай бұрын

    sir plz make vdo on barebell overhead press(grip).

  • @tonybernard4444
    @tonybernard4444 Жыл бұрын

    I can't do pullups, so I do pull downs. Should I choose a weight for pulling to my chin, clavicle or sternum?

  • @benjaminmiller3075
    @benjaminmiller30755 ай бұрын

    Thanks for tips. Now I'm back to the assisted pullup machine. 😢

  • @donnaryan71
    @donnaryan71 Жыл бұрын

    would you under-stretch if you have hypermobility, or let it go to full?

  • @ZRBx4
    @ZRBx48 ай бұрын

    Ahhhhh. Good man he was

  • @rik9833
    @rik9833 Жыл бұрын

    7:10 gonna come back to this

  • @lacanian_lifter
    @lacanian_lifter Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Mike, do you think that weighted pull-ups are necessary for hypertrophy once one can comfortably do 10-12 bodyweight reps? I've been doing weighted chin-ups for like 3 years and god damn I am tired of them, though they have helped my lat growth.

  • @timetraveler_0
    @timetraveler_0 Жыл бұрын

    Going from loaded to an unloaded set feels like your are flying lol

  • @Balachiang
    @Balachiang Жыл бұрын

    I actually think a full stretch helps generating strength and remaining tightness (probably can do less pullups if half repped)

  • @FranciscoJavier246
    @FranciscoJavier246 Жыл бұрын

    hahhahahah i lost it here 7:51 what a genius xD

  • @optikjoe985
    @optikjoe985 Жыл бұрын

    doing 15 clean pullups in one set would be a dream

  • @Kingbird500
    @Kingbird500 Жыл бұрын

    Does the full stretch apply to pull downs too

  • @devpragmatico
    @devpragmatico Жыл бұрын

    Would it make sense to do something like this for chin-ups? but to maximize Biceps growth

  • @idealsAREisomorphic
    @idealsAREisomorphic5 ай бұрын

    The biggest hurdle people have to performing a proper pull up are the rounded and shrugged up shoulders, caused by disproportionally weak infraspinatus and teres major, which cause dysfunction of the shoulder joint. Most of them don’t even realize it.

  • @YMESYDT
    @YMESYDT Жыл бұрын

    7:22 is that about how far we should bring our head and shoulders back when pulling to the sternum?

  • @DavesRabbitHole
    @DavesRabbitHole7 ай бұрын

    Went from zero pull ups to 3 sets of 6, it took some serious weight loss, lots of lat pull downs and eventually my power to weight ratio met in the middle and the pull-up was born. decided to perfect 3 sets of 6 as described here before adding more reps, would like to work up to the weighted pull ups.

  • @TomSz-ez9yk

    @TomSz-ez9yk

    5 ай бұрын

    Awesome work Dave keep at it brother!

  • @DavesRabbitHole

    @DavesRabbitHole

    5 ай бұрын

    @@TomSz-ez9yk thanks mate, once you get to a set of 5 or 6, progress slows a lot, for me at least, I'm now at 3 sets of 7 sketchy pull ups, they would probably be less sketchy if it was not for the additional weight i gained over Christmas, in about 4 weeks i should be back to my pre christmas binge weight, its surprising how much of a difference just 5 or 6 lbs makes when working at maximum capacity or "to failure", especially when it is passive lard and not active muscle.

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