OPSCORE XR and SF ballistic test - Highcut ECH for twice the price?
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@ABowlofPho
Жыл бұрын
Good video. Any plans on perhaps testing some of the Highcom helmets I've been seeing lately? Been seeing their name pop up when it comes to armor and their IIIA helmets supposedly "defeat" a number of .357 and .44 magnum loads. And they also claim to have a "III+" rifle rated helmet that's rated to stop M80 ball going at about 2900, which makes me curious.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
@@ABowlofPho @sootch00 Shot a few of them
@kryststar6800
Жыл бұрын
You need to find some way to secure to a clay block,,, with it just loosely resting on that post its able to spend some energy when it moves with the impact and the post bends..
@NorthernMafia8
Жыл бұрын
What happened to the video of the Chinese helmet
@smokeeater917
Жыл бұрын
@Oxide so of those two, are either of them comparable to an Ops Core Maritime? I have yet to see anyone do a review on one and from all accounts, they were the best helmet Ops Core had produced.
Shoutout to Army Psy Ops for making better recruitment than whatever actual department is responsible for recruiting.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
She's in Civil Affairs 🤓
@Nikolai393
Жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best Oh yeah. Totally. 😉
@brendanfries421
Жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best I thnk she's in PsyOps just part of USACAPOC.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
@@brendanfries421 I wouldn't want her job
@Sercer25
Жыл бұрын
United States Army Simpcore The absolute state of the US military in 2k23.
I always wanted to see an OpsCore SF penetration test since Garand Thumb said there are 2 rifle rated variants of it. Guess at least one of them wasn't very good after all lol
@ExcitedSolarSystem-jr2rn
Ай бұрын
The only way to stop rifle rounds with a helmet is to have secondary up-armor plates that are attached onto your already 3a helmet
@Marksman5147
Ай бұрын
@@ExcitedSolarSystem-jr2rnthat’s literally so wrong but ok lmao The RF1 helmet is rated fully for 556 and 7.62 MSC, highcom makes one aswell
@ExcitedSolarSystem-jr2rn
12 күн бұрын
@@Marksman5147 yes... at 2500 fps... meaning its rated to stop at 5.56 at like 400 yards...a point blank shot from a 5.56 will smoke you
@Marksman5147
12 күн бұрын
@@ExcitedSolarSystem-jr2rn it’s rated against m193 556 at 3,250fps… Nice of you to take that up tho. It’s rated against 7.62x39 mild steel core @2,380fps and 7.62 NATO M80 @2,700fps You can make a full helmet out of the same material as the up armor plates it’s just expensive, hence the price.
send me hair and i will send moar helmet
@richmondneo1
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Down Bad
@rouxgaroux2159
Жыл бұрын
Bro think he Gimli 💀
@tonyhatesponies
Жыл бұрын
mans gotta do what mans gotta do to find out how they make all these lab grown psyops
7:47 monster of a NV scope for a 9mm pcc i love it
@goofiestofahhgaming1072
Жыл бұрын
When your CPU is shit but you got that 4090
@zemperus1639
3 ай бұрын
@@goofiestofahhgaming1072 Amd(fx) 6100 six-core from 2010's Bulldozer (look it up if you dont know about the tragedy of Bulldozer) vs a 4090 lmao
Literally we are just buying the name not protection
@ElMachoMucho
Жыл бұрын
That's not entirely true man no helmet is going to do good at that range. My only complaint with the videos is that he should be shooting them farther away as well as up close. I have personally deployed and worn this helmet on rotations and seen it save people's lives. I will absolutely say this though anybody looking to get into helmets just buy an ACH get good pads and a good retaining system and you'll be better than good.
@pakman184
Жыл бұрын
@@ElMachoMucho Both of these things can be true. People have absolutely had their lives saved by Ops-Cores but the helmet itself could be just as functional as an ECH, really the only difference between them (it seems) is 0.5 pounds of weight.
@jwhiskey534
Жыл бұрын
@@ElMachoMuchowhat do you mean “shooting at that range”? Bullet velocity is bullet velocity, Ops Core advertised the XR in defeating 7.62x39 at 2400FPS which is the standard muzzle velocity for that round. That’s deceptive on their part and they know it. At further distances with lower bullet velocity you’re better off w/ mil surplus ACH/ECH. The Marine Corps still contracts Gentex to produce high cut ECH helmets
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
@@ElMachoMucho God I always get this fuckin comment. If I want to test at range I can load rounds light, but NIJ isn't from range. Also lots of helmets do well at close range. Really annoying.
@ejl9363
Жыл бұрын
@@jwhiskey534 it did defeat the round, though 🤷🏻♂️ Anyone running one of these would be lying to themselves if they think it’ll tank a full on hit from a rifle, or even pistol round and be able to walk away unphased. Frag or a glancing blow? Probably, but I think surviving these impacts is more likely.
Absolutely love what you do, very informative and interesting all around. Also great opening with the 80s style VHS and everything.
I can't believe that Bryce prefers Van Patten's ballistic high cut helmet to mine
The length on the wood stud generated the leverage to snap it. The neck is shorter.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
I'm mostly making a joke about it. Because of the mouth breathers that think neck breaking is a thing
@luckyomen
Жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best Maybe they broke their neck jumping to conclusions without evidence.
1:01 dawg??? 💀
I'd like to see you test the Airframe next. All of these videos have been super helpful and eye opening.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
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@volkenvolk3135
Жыл бұрын
Ar500 did a really shitty video on an airframe once, preforms how you would expect a nij 2 helmet to preform.
This video has me realizing why we haven't seen the army or marines adopt opscore helmets. Because you are paying a premium for what seems like the same exact ballistic protection. For once this seems like a smart move by the military.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
JSOC adopted the opscore, the marines and army adopted the ECH. Both helmets are fine and have unique advantages. Watch my ECH video.
@Zuluboo
Жыл бұрын
I mean dude literally shot a helmet in the back with led core from like 5 feet, in most situations that won’t ever happen.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
@@Zuluboo it’s what it’s supposed to be rated for. Y’all dumb I swear.
@alfonso7851
5 ай бұрын
La ventaja que tiene es que es muy ligero, yo he leído que éstos cascos están fabricado con PE/ Aramida/ Fibra de Carbono, la construcción del PE está hecho con un procesó único de OPS CORE, la fibra de carbono tiene propiedades balística no se resistencia las prestaciones balística es de absorción del impacto. El PE es más elástico por lo que su deformación es mayor y la aramida es más resistente a la deformación, pero no había visto una prueba de OPS CORE y me ha decepcionado pensé que tendría menos deformación de la cara interna, OPS CORE asegura su baja deformación con disparo de fusil muy me parece que si no te mata la bala te matará el impacto de la deformación todo el trauma que ae provoca podría matarte. Creo que estos casos están muy inflados en precios igual que todos los productos de OPS CORE
6:13 damn, that opscore SelfDefense™ mode is only found on the most gucci of helmets. you lucked out oxide
Damn....I tip my hat for you spending your own money doing these tests. Keep at it Oxide!
@threehundredblackout
Жыл бұрын
weapons outfitter gave him the helmets
@JackkDevil
Жыл бұрын
Maybe he is referring to all the Russian stuff that are eBay stuff
Love to see a Team Wendy ballistic helmet tested! Also can't wait for the Hard Head Veterans test
@trashcompactorYT
8 ай бұрын
TW doesn't deserve the press
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
4 ай бұрын
@@trashcompactorYTStop crying.
@trashcompactorYT
4 ай бұрын
@@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 ok Hillary supporter lmao
@Marksman5147
12 күн бұрын
@@trashcompactorYTTW is G2G now, the guy who donated to Hillary is gone, he sold out (of course lol) Avon actually owns team wendy now.
everytime you post a new video its like a holiday and it makes my day watching it
I don't care how cute the women are, I am NOT reenlisting
@Ladtheafricanbullfrog
Жыл бұрын
@@Redmanfms lmao
Amazing work as always 💯
Very nice test, looking forward to more.
opscore sf owner. I expected better, but my main purpose for having a helmet is light weight ability to hold night vision and coms. I got this over the bump for added frag protection. Crazy results though. It doesn't make me not want my helmet, but it's good to know the limitations. Everything can fail at a certain point.
@ShellShock11C
7 ай бұрын
I mean, there artent really any better helmets, My broke ass still rolls with a standard ACH
@C420sailor
3 ай бұрын
Same. Better protection equals more weight. Everything is a trade off. If my helmet gets heavy enough, I’ll find excuses to take it off or not wear it, and then I have zero protection. If it’ll stop a 9mm and it’s light, I’ll take it
@Marksman5147
12 күн бұрын
Opscore are fine, the XR is fine, it does what it’s supposed too. The SF just had less protection than other standard IIIa opscore because it’s a lighter thinner material… which means less protection. The kicker is the SF is their “premium” helmet and they charge more… yea I’m good on that one.
There's a little known law that affects the price. It's often why stuff is so high. A helmet or any other item a company sells at a marked up price to get rich off the military contracts has a rule. They can't turn around and sell the same item to the public for a cheaper, more realistic price. So companies like these have no choice when they bite into those juicy government contracts. If they sell the exact item to the public for a real price they'll lose the contract. Sometimes companies will try and skirt this and make a civilian model so they can double dip so to speak. Most are just content with charging the gov a high price. It's part of how they justify the price gouge, because they can't sell mass amounts like other products to the civilian market too. Not sure what the laws name is. But I hear it's why some rifles are crazy expensive. I'm sure it applies to all items and not just rifles tho. Good video thanks
Very cool, my brain now has severe TBI inducing deformation.
I'd love to see a test of a "home cut" ACH or ECH with the classic methods of reinforcing/epoxying the cuts... We poors need answers! 😂
@1911CockedandLocked
Жыл бұрын
Yes please make a video on this. Just bought an ach and have been considering making it into a high cut.
@Nperez1986
Жыл бұрын
KustomACH does a great job doing these cuts
@1911CockedandLocked
Жыл бұрын
@@Nperez1986 yeah I was probably gonna go thru them or cut it myself. It's still all up in the air though.
@ABowlofPho
Жыл бұрын
Not a good idea to do a "home cut" ECH as UHWMPE reacts differently to being "compromised" vs kevlar. Oxide even mentions it in his ECH video.
@1911CockedandLocked
Жыл бұрын
@@ABowlofPho I have an ach which is kevlar
I suspect that in many of the cases where Ops-Cores or similar helmets did stop rifle rounds, it was because those rounds were fired from a longer distance rather than point blank range.
@jwhiskey534
Жыл бұрын
Yes because at further distances the bullet velocity decreases. Ops Core advertised their XR can defeat 7.62x39 at 2400FPS which is the common muzzle velocity. He used 💩 ammo (lower muzzle velocity) and the helmet still got wrecked.
@MaxB00M
Жыл бұрын
And also luck with the angle of the impact
Excellent edits Prism :D
love the VHS optics!! (the part around 1:25 is seriously painful to watch tho....which is also kinda cool)
Keep up the good work your saving lives with this information
Hot damn. Well, feeling pretty good about getting my ACH professionally cut to a Maritime pattern now.
I wore my opscore on three deployments. Never thought It'd save me from a full AK, but frag, sure. Mostly I loved the Peltor and NOD support. And the fact it made the 75th Easily more identifiable. Never hated the weight.
a great one, love the vhs style, keep doin man.
Music is giving me memories of NXXXXS vibes and this was a wonderfully informative test. I had been thinking of getting one of these in the near future but I guess my credit card can breath a little easier now.
@Zach_Bloomquist
Жыл бұрын
Also love the dichotomy of the massive nvg on top of a 9mm carbine. Very nice.
This makes me happy that I got the gentex high cut instead of these newer options.
This is pretty damn eye opening really I honestly thought theyd perform better considering the price. I knew the sf would deform worse because the sacrifice of protection for weight savings but honestly thought it wouldn't be as bad as it was. Pretty deceptive marketing on opscores part thanks for the quality content.
This one I'm particularly excited for
Been waiting for this.
WooWW shocking result
Love your vids Oxide!
RF1! RF1! RF1! I wanna see this one tested so badly. 😩 Please Oxide. Please.
@Oxide_does_his_best
8 ай бұрын
Pay me
@JoeBlow-ub1us
8 ай бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best I know, I know. Maybe hit up some people for sponsors. I do appreciate the work you do though in all seriousness. There is a local shop near me that is a official distributor of Ops-core products (although maybe thats a bad thing idk), they're called US Tactical supply based out of Idaho. They're good dudes, who knows, they may go for it. I'm not sure if they stock the RF1 but I would bet they could order it from gentex. May be worth a shot.
I can't wait to see the SLAAP plate tests
I simple man. I see Oxide video, I watch, I talk shit and argue in comments. I happy
It would be interesting to see some U-Arms helmets and slap on's tested. But yeah, good luck getting them
I agree with the opcore part, they are pretty expensive unlike their competitors who do sell quite cheaper, but it's probably because of their name in the helmet industry
thanks for giving such an unbiased review
Love the new graphics style
Thanks for going so far to test it
Great video, thanks for putting this out there. In OpsCores defence there is more to a helmet than just the protection offered like features, "wearability ", quality of manufacture etc etc. But agreed the cost does seem excessive compared to similar offerings from other manufacturers.
I currently have a Fast HC which makes me wonder if its somewhere inbetween the RF1 an SF or lower
If you ever get a chance id like to see how the tw line holds up love your vids
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
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Would it be possible to use a ballistic dummy gel head to see how bad those BFD would actually be.
This is why I'm just waiting for one of my Marine buddies to sneak out one of their new high cut ECHs.
It’s a good day to see an oxide video
I love the almost uncanny 90’s computer editing
Thank you for the info
Liking this editing style
If you wore the ops core xp and got shot with that 7.62x39 your skull would have been caved in and you'd be dead.
Very cool
When will you be testing your issued flight helm???
While you're testing Western helmets could you take a look at the cry airframe frag and ballistic helmets
I would love to see you test the galvion viper series of helmets at some point. Can't send one over tho, I'm in worse financial shape than you lol.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
British helmet is coming
Banger (literally)
Perfection yoo!!!....
would love to see you test helmet/armour at higher ranges , the recent garand video about 22lr keeping the balistic lethality over 500m kinda blew my mind
@thecorbill27
Жыл бұрын
He did a video of shooting a ACH out to 500 meters with green tip 5.56 and it zipped right through
@CssHDmonster
Жыл бұрын
@@thecorbill27 oh, i guess i missed it
Luv u oxide u fr got me into msw
Oxide, bro u are becoming more and more one of my favorite content makers. So a warrant now? Good job brother, congrats. What will u be or want to fly? Stay safe brother! Airborne!
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Probably Apache
You should've put a dummy head or a watermelon in it. When you leave it empty you're just allowing room for the polyethylene to expand. It's like stabbing a piece of paper that's in the air vs stabbing one that's against a backing of some sort. Now I could be completely wrong but I think it'd allow you to see damage to a would be skull due to deformation
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
You’re right. The good news is the results are obvious in this case without a head form. Expect to see a head form in future videos.
i love these armor test
Making it heavier obviously, but could a titaniumoxide-titanium shell over the fibre not reduce the amount of energy that gets dumped into the fibre?
also very based to still give such a harsh and honest review after the company was so generous to you keep that up!
@zadamany9255
Жыл бұрын
Weapon Outfitters is a dealer, not the manufacturer for the helmets.
@keinname2481
Жыл бұрын
@@zadamany9255 still one of the products they sell... bad reviews are bad reviews
@zadamany9255
Жыл бұрын
@@keinname2481 Yeah, I’m just pointing out it’s not like Ops-Cire gave him a free helmet, WO doesn’t give a shit what he does
I have always been suspect of the bragging opscore does about how light it's helmets are
Wonder if adding a metallic outer attachment would give it more protection against rifles
Maybe with a Carbon fiber or titanium liner frame on the inside it might not have as bad of back face deformation.
So whats your opinion on HHV helmets? Does the low price justify the performance?
@RangerColinLZ
Жыл бұрын
We saw what happened to the HHV. There's no way in hell I'm trusting that thing to protect my noodle from anything but bumps, let alone 9mm in any scenario
Doing the lords work destroying these helmets
I'd really like to see some Team Wendy tests one day
now the question is how the older OpsCores compare, LBH, MT, XP, etc.
@yzhou05
Жыл бұрын
And what about the Team Wendy EXFIL and SL? From their website they do seem to be claiming “full” NIJ IIIA capability under standard 0108.01… kinda glad that’s what I have, but still nervous that in reality performance may not be as advertised!
@AlexsEquipmentCorner
Жыл бұрын
@@yzhou05 i've heard that TW has had some bfd issues
@ThatGearCollector2002
Жыл бұрын
What about galvion/revision helmets, mtek flux, crye airframe, etc…?
@AlexsEquipmentCorner
Жыл бұрын
@@ThatGearCollector2002 airframe has already a reputation of bad performance
Thank you for your service solider.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Airsoftners are the real heros. Hold what you've got.
Now that highcom pulled out a 3.5lbs rifle rated bucket, I eagerly await seeing you destroy that thing
Still gonna buy cause cool velcro arrangement and my thick head will compensate for lack of ballistic protection.
rf1 and Wendy, must
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
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Ever thought about getting one of those ballistic heads, putting a helmet on them and see what happens to the skull when you shot the helmet?
7:47 where does he source batteries for that PAS-13B? Asking for a friend. Or are there modern battery pack mods that’ll work?
@marcusborderlands6177
Жыл бұрын
Figure out what voltage it needs and make a battery pack with protection. It's barely a weekend project. Don't take my word only on this, but it looks like it uses 7.4v nominal cells, so literally wiring up airsoft Lipo 7.4v batteries would work.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Lithium ion battery at 7.4 works
Very Cool
They should add the scent,maybe some people will consider that's worth the price.
Nice 👌
Weapon outfitters is a dope company
Would a 1mm steel or titanium plate help with the deformation of polyethylene helmets?, it would increase the weight but the volume required would be fairly minimal
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Yes but the weight would be quite high
Could you please test the MTEK Flux helmet to see if it’s actually worth the price ?
I don’t run helmets, I just duck at random 3 to 28 second intervals
Hi Oxide. Would love to see you do something similar with western helmets as you did wit the russian ones. Were you compared the old ww2 steel helmets up to the more modern ones. I'm curious to see how the M1 would stack up today. We see from the ukraine war that old surplus gear from as far back as ww2 May stil be presses into service.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Working on it actually! Spoiler alert the M1 sucks
@HaakonTheViking
Жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best cool! Looking forward to seeing it! I also really enjoy the hiking videos. So keep up the good work!
Hey dad I know HHV made some lattice-whatever the fuck they called it liner that supposedly helps with backface deformation. Maybe if you try those in combo with the polyethilene helmets that might lead to different results?
At about 8:12 (there was also an earlier point in the vid) there appears to be a marking on the polyethylene. Care to disclose what the brand and model number the polyethylene material is? This way nerds can know what these helmets are made of because there are different “grades” of polyethylene. This is common with soft body armor where you can sometimes see the brand/model printed on the individual layers if you cut it open and pull it apart.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
Dynama :)
Broo no way he tests the opscore YEEEAA!
I seen one of my marines take a 7.62 in his ACH to the top of the head. He passed out immediately and we thought he was gone. We were inside hummer at the time and the shot came from overhead Mountain range
@kikacruz4560
3 ай бұрын
Ach was dented and he woke up soon
Alright, team Wendy SL next!
So what can we buy that will actually protect us? From Gentex or otherwise
u just motivated me to going shooting at elm tmrw
i cant wait for the HHV ATE gen 2 Test i hope my investment into one was worth it
Very nice
Any chance you'd do a test on UARM'S body armor? I'm thinking about getting some shoulder plates from them since they're the only thing aside from the HOPLITE shoulder plates.
@Oxide_does_his_best
Жыл бұрын
If someone buys me some
Cool video, I love you