Op-Amp: CMRR (Common Mode Rejection Ratio) Explained (with example)
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In this video, what is Common Mode Rejection Ratio (CMRR) in op-amp and what is the importance of CMRR has been explained with the example.
What is CMRR?
CMRR is the ratio of differential gain and the common mode gain.
For ideal op-amp, the value of CMRR is infinite, but for practical op-amp's the value of CMRR used to be in the range of 80 to 100 dB.
Common mode gain is the gain of op-amp when same input is applied or same input is present at both input terminals.
Op-Amp in open loop condition acts as a differential amplifier and amplifies the difference between the two input terminals.
So, if both inputs are equal then the output of the op-amp in ideal condition should be zero.
But actually, some output used to be present at the output terminal.
And the ratio of this common output to the input voltage is known as the common mode gain.
For ideal op-amp, the value of common mode gain should be zero. But practical op-amp has some finite value (less than 1) of common mode gain.
Noise is the main source of common mode input signal. And op-amp should be able to suppress this noise as much as possible.
And how well it is able to suppress this noise is represented by this CMRR.
The timestamps for the different topics covered in the video.
0:20 What is CMRR and what is the importance of CMRR.
4:58 Example
This video will be helpful to all the students of science and engineering in understanding the concept of CMRR in op-amp.
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The timestamps for the different topics covered in the video. 0:20 What is CMRR and what is the importance of CMRR. 4:58 Example
@damnjuliet
Ай бұрын
good explanation. thanks
I have seen many tutors chanting CMMR like a parrot, but here I got the applicability of the term in a vivid voice. Thanks for your efforts.
@nayil100
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously!! Professors kept chanting even before even introducing CMRR.
Best explanation of CMMR on the internet! Thank you! Subscribed :)
Best Channel for OP-AMPS tutorials! thank you
This series is the best explanation of op amp on the internet!Thank you sir for making this.
Made it so easy for self learning, thanks buddy!
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A very good explanation of CMRR.
It's great, better explained than in my school.
Totally understand CMRR after watching the video. Thank you.
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@rishavsinha3376
5 жыл бұрын
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@thisissharief7651
5 жыл бұрын
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@balapranav7096
3 жыл бұрын
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Excellent video. Very good delivery of speech.
Thanks a lot for explaining such a confusing topic in this short video 🙏
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Very helpful, thank you!
Thanks a lot sir ,i was struggling to understand cmrr
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@sanjujohnson5523
4 жыл бұрын
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The best explanation!
Awesome!!
Thank you very much
well explained
Thanks for the applied problem. But please correct formula at arround 7:50. Acm = (1/Ad) * 10^(90dB/20)
@h2tchannel549
3 жыл бұрын
not understand.. why?
Thank you!
Nice Sir Thanks A lot Sir
Sir make some detailed video on sensors and how it is used in IC engine for daily uses like in car etc
THANKS BROTHER...
Good one
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which software is this you use to draw the circuits?
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Thank you sir
Sir at 9:18 you said that as the frequency increases the ability to suppress the common mode signal will also decrease. But sir as the freq increases then the common mode gain also decreases so the common mode signal would be attenuated more at higher freq just as the differential input signal. So how the ability decreases?
How we can say CMRR Depend on frequency??
The setup box we use .Is a opamp?
Excellent!!
@3.06 Why the term Acm*Vcm is included when we apply differential voltage instead of common mode voltage?
@noweare1
5 жыл бұрын
Because Common mode signal is always present.
Thank you
that means since we try to reduse commen mode signal is it not a sinal that is not be provided by us
Sir, could you please reply, how to calculate (formula) the Common mode gain, if CMRR is not given in a Numerical where all other parameters are same as you explained in above example....
@khamandhoklaa
Жыл бұрын
I think it you can find out cmrr in data sheet of that particular IC
Nice
Sir make some video on VLSI,MICROPROCESSOR AND RESISTORS
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CORRECTION :- If input frequency increases then CMRR decreases. You have mentioned incorrectly. Kindly update if I am wrong.
Great!
Nice explanation thank you!!
Please confirm , * so basically common mode gain depends on the open/closed loop gain through CMRR .. ie A_cm it's not a fixed value * CMRR is calculated at what frequency ? in specs sheet in the begining of the video no frequency is mentioned.
10 ^ 4.5 where did it come from??
@AnuragKumar-lv3ul
3 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem
@sonnyasu
3 жыл бұрын
90=20log->. Log(ad/acm)=90/20=4.5->10^4.5
sir why the common mode input appers at input terminalds
Great...
Sir,if we interchange the pins of op-amp ic pin-2 (inverting terminal) and pin-3 (non-inverting terminal),then what will be happen?
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't get it. You mean the external connections ??
is coomen mode signal is only for differntial amplifers
it will be even more helpful if by drawing given input and outputs.
What if noise signal frequency is same as that of information signal in that case how lpf differentiate noise and information signal
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
6 жыл бұрын
If information signal and noise signal frequency are same then, of course, LPF will not be able to differentiate between the two signal. But usually, the output signals from the sensors are not very high-frequency signals. And at those frequencies, differential amplifier adequately suppresses the common mode noise signals. (In the case when noise signal frequency is same as signal frequency). But still by chance in your application, if information signal and the noise signal are high-frequency signals, in that case, you need select op-amp which has high CMRR at that operating frequency. I hope it will clear your doubt.
The information is there, buts whats with "THE" ?
sir why we try to reduse cm output voltage
sir is common mode gain is somthing associated with op amp
is common mode input apper becouse of noise signals
In numerical calculation of gains ,Is sign of voltage considered?
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
6 жыл бұрын
No, no need to consider the sign of the voltage. Because the gain defines the ratio of output voltage to the input voltage in absolute terms and it is independent of the sign of the voltage. Gain = | Vout/Vin| But suppose if the output voltage is inverted with respect to the input voltage (in case of inverting Op-amp) then we can say that there is a 180-degree phase shift between the output and the input. E.g in case of inverting op-amp, if the input is 1V and output is -5V, then we can say that the gain of the op-amp is 5, and there is a 180-degree phase shift between the output and the input. I hope it will clear your doubt.
At 7:37 how he wrote 10^4.5, Anyone please explain
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
3 жыл бұрын
90 = 20 log (Ad/Acm). That means 4.5 = log (Ad/Acm) Here the base of the log is 10. Hence, 10^4.5 = Ad/Acm. I hope, it will clear your doubt.
Sir ,may i know,what is the reason behind the amplification of common mode signal,why op-amp can't suppress that even if their difference is zero?
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
2 жыл бұрын
For more info, please check my couple of videos on BJT - Differential amplifier. I have explained it using the small-signal analysis. Once you will go through it, it will get clear to you. The basic reason is, the first stage of the op-amp is differential pair. Since the pair is not ideal, we have amplification of common-mode signal.
Sir, in the decibal scale op amp gain is given by A -> 10log(A). Then the CMRR should also be given as 10log(Ad/Acm). Please clarify my doubt
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
4 жыл бұрын
The voltage gain of the op-amp is defined as 20 log (A). When we are representing the power gain in dB then it is defined as 10 log (Ap). For more info please go through this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ppVl1beNma20m7w.html
HELLO SIR can you make one video for PSRR (power supply rejection ratio) of OP-AMP
@prajaktaramteke2025
3 жыл бұрын
I too need the same
Sir, at 6:11,i personally think that there should be a '---' in the front of the R2/R1.
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
5 жыл бұрын
It would be there if it is written as R2/R1 (V1- V2) But its (V2 -V1). So, the negative sign is already considered. I hope it will clear your doubt.
@martingu2033
5 жыл бұрын
@@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS But actually i think the Vinput is defined by the difference between non-inverting terminal and inverting terminal, so it should just be (V2--V1), if together with '--', it turns out to (V1--V2).
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
5 жыл бұрын
If you closely observe the input at the non-inverting is V2.
What is common mode source in fact?please
The entire video is a rhetorical question
Sir what will be the next videos on this opamp??
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
6 жыл бұрын
I will let you know very soon.
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
6 жыл бұрын
Next couple of videos will be on DC offsets/ DC imperfections (input offset voltage, input bias current etc.) in op-amp.
@prabhakardas4261
6 жыл бұрын
ALL ABOUT ELECTRONICS thanks for this notification.... By the way sir, can you say about the completion of the opamp course, how many lectures still left? This would aid in my preparation.
Don't throw the wards in 100 100 velocity
In the numerical the output voltage should be -50mv as it is a inverting amplifier .... Please clarify my doubt sir Thank you
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
2 жыл бұрын
First of all, the op-amp is used as a differential amplifier. The output would be -50 mV, if the differetial input V1 - V2 is 5mV. Here, we have assumed that the V2 - V1 is the differential input. And hence, the output is positive. I hope, it will clear your doubt.
Bro suggest me book name to study electronics
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
4 жыл бұрын
You can start with Electronic Principles by Albert Malvino
I have a question can u solve it please....
Subtitles covering most of the equations written.
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
7 ай бұрын
You can turn it off manually in the video settings.
where is above the head button
Please describe it more details
why Ad/Acm = 10^4.5 ?
@eleanorrigby226
6 жыл бұрын
oh no it's okay..got it hahaa
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
6 жыл бұрын
90/20= 4.5 and if you take the antilog then it will be 10^4.5. I hope it will clear your doubt.
@jamesacosta6090
3 жыл бұрын
@@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS the anti log of what.. how? im very confused w this .... u have an unknown inside the log.. not sure how to do this
@jamesacosta6090
3 жыл бұрын
i just remember how its done. I was confused with the 10, and it obviously comes from the log base 10.. thanx for the videos!!
Why we use 20 log here
@-dazz-
5 жыл бұрын
I believe it's because the formula refers to voltage gain. If it was power gain it would be 10 log.
it is 0.063 microvolts, not 0.63microvolts in the end
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
2 ай бұрын
It will be 0.63 uV. Please check it again, you will get it .
Why we want to compress the common signal
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
4 жыл бұрын
The noise, for example, is a common-mode signal. Because it is present at both terminal. And to improve the signal to noise ratio, it is required to remove or compress this common-mode signal.
bro please make bjt tutorials using pspice
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
4 жыл бұрын
I will include the simulation in the upcoming videos.
Please upload video to technics of increasing cmrr
Sir at 6:10 vo negative or not I mean it's input applied In inverting input plz sir reply
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
4 жыл бұрын
As I mentioned the overall output voltage is R2 / R1 * (V2 - V1) If V2 > V1 then Vo will be positive else it will be negative.
@leophysics
4 жыл бұрын
@@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS thanks
Maja aagya
i think i have not learnt at undergrade but now get the clear idea ..thanks. can u provide the pdf file or slide of this videoes
@noweare1
5 жыл бұрын
I am hearing that more and more. You are lucky to have you tube and the internet. When I graduated there was no internet, and no youtube. It was more of a struggle to learn.
Can you replace my lecturer at uni?
how do we know the Vid from the Vn?
we know, CMRR=(change in input)/output here you have used CMRR is 90db,,, it is wrong... here it must be CMR is 90db...
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2:58 Dec
what language is this? It says English but the person isn't speaking English
@Zireael1706
2 жыл бұрын
bruh, it is english lmao. what are you on?
@captdeadpool2279
9 ай бұрын
You should be thanking him for not speaking in his mother tongue you ingrate