Notts County the only club to vote for the premier league and never play in it

Tbh, as a Millwall fan, I hope my club NEVER EVER gets into that 'corrupt' league... The F.A have their favourites and I do not want to be that seasons 'whipping' boys and lose by a record low amount of points... money has screwed that league into the ground bar the top 8 or so clubs... the rich get richer!

@Enuff947

27 күн бұрын

Rather see ‘wall than west ham in the PL. Stripey Nigel. x

@garyholmes5670

27 күн бұрын

And it’s that attitude why Milwall is Tim pot and always will be.

@John-hh8lq

27 күн бұрын

@@garyholmes5670 It's MY attitude not the clubs... not sure why you're coming in at that angle?

@turbotiger82

27 күн бұрын

To be fair mate I think the club has the same ambitions.

@John-hh8lq

27 күн бұрын

@@turbotiger82 Hopefully as the Premier League has prostituted our national game and the only 'REAL' football is only just about alive in the lower leagues... I don't want to watch "Americanised sport'.

Bury is still the same club that were expelled from the EFL. Bury last played in the top tier in 1928/29

@malcomflibbleghast8140

10 күн бұрын

thought they went bankrupt?

Luton & Oldham being the only two to have played in the Premier League but also at national league level as well.

Make that 4 in the championship, come on Oxford.

@paulweller3179

7 күн бұрын

I'd be ashamed to be promoted after finishing 10 points behind a club,it's pathetic!!

Very intresting vid. I'm still shocked Preston haven't been in the Prem before (They made the championship playoffs consistantly during the 2000s but never got through).

Millwall - We got relegated a few seasons before the Prem lg formed! Crazy to think We finished above Man Utd the year before🤯

@rjjcms1

26 күн бұрын

2 years before it buth otherwise correct.

@interstellarbeatteller9306

25 күн бұрын

@@rjjcms1 Clearly my memory is shot to pieces😅thanks

@rjjcms1

24 күн бұрын

@@interstellarbeatteller9306 Happens to us all,it seems!

Northampton are also one of the few teams to have only been in the top flight for one season, that could be a good video to do.

@samkirkegaard

28 күн бұрын

That's interesting! I'll have to look into their one season of top flight glory.

@LezDentz

27 күн бұрын

Didn't Northampton go from 4th Division to 1st Division and back to 4th in consecutive seasons back in the 1960's ?

@dylan9492

27 күн бұрын

@@LezDentz yeah we did and it’s a world record no one’s come close to beating it but I don’t know if that’s a bad or a good thing

@pak8606

26 күн бұрын

​​@@LezDentzYes that's correct. Northampton Town went from 4th Division to 1st Division then back to the 4th Division between 1960 and 1969. Swansea City did the same between 1977 and 1986, having led the 1st Division at times during the 1981/82 season.

@richardfurness7556

25 күн бұрын

@@LezDentz Not quite. They spent 2 seasons in the 2nd division on the way up and 2 in the 3rd on the way down.

Bradford Park Avenue

@Cardboardbox32

25 күн бұрын

Yay 💚🤍

Luton I believe was one of these teams until their promotion last season. It will hopefully happen for these clubs again (or maybe not who knows)

@samkirkegaard

29 күн бұрын

You are exactly right, they got off this list with their promotion last season!

Carlisle

The defunct clubs who could also lay claim to this stat, if they still existed, are Darwen and Accrington (not Stanley, a different club entirely.) Bury mentioned in several other posts.

blimey, i got 8 of them, i missed glossop(i wouldn't have known that) northampton town i forgot, i do recall their solitary 60s campaign, bradford PA, wasn't sure they'd been in the old first division, i also named the original Accrington FC(totally different club to both versions of Stanley who've never been in the top flight) i'm sure Accrington were still in the top flight when it became the first division after about 4 seasons? certainly they were in the original 12 of the football league, it would appear i'm wrong though!

How about a video about the club that never played old Division One but played in the Premier League?

Even the teams in the Championship are not looking like getting to the Premier League. Thrre are much bigger clubs in the Championship. These clubs are doing alright though. They shouldn't be tempted to overstretch themselves.

Theres 5 teams id love to see promoted to prem..Preston, Bristol City, Milwall, Sheffield Wednesday and Coventry city..i remember the last 2 being in the prem, it would be great to see them in the top tier again

@samkirkegaard

28 күн бұрын

Selfishly I'm hoping for Sunderland next season. Not super hopeful at all, but just wishing at this point. I'd love to see some clubs though that haven't been to the prem make it up next year!

Preston North End have been in 7 fa cup finals (won 2) Apart from the 2 league titles...were runners up 6 times, twice in the 1950s....one was by one goal difference to Arsenal.....the other teams have nothing on them.....they really are in their late winter of discontent.

@chchedda

25 күн бұрын

Good, hate that club 🍊

@anthonykeefe971

25 күн бұрын

In the 50s it was goal average rather than goal difference, which was taken into account.

@pr9062

25 күн бұрын

@@chchedda lasher? 😀

Leyton Orient Got promoted With Liverpool, Next Season We Got Relegated With Manchester City. We Are Doing OK These Days Don't Know What Happened To The Other Two . Any Idea ?

@englishciderlover7347

24 күн бұрын

You don't need to start each word with a capital letter.

@jeremyhards1911

23 күн бұрын

@@englishciderlover7347cMON tHE o’S. aNY bETTER?

Hearing an American pronounce Glossop was unexpectedly satisfying

@samkirkegaard

27 күн бұрын

I do my best hahaha For cities and towns I haven't heard of I really try to look up pronunciation guides, but sometimes I even question those. I did a video on Norwegian football and although I did my best, trying to pronounce cities in Norway was tough. hahaha

I certainly hope so too!!! Ha'way the lads!

Up the Cobblers 👞

Is Glossop North End not considered active?

@samkirkegaard

29 күн бұрын

They're still active. The reason they hop off the screen is because they are playing in non-league football at the moment further down the ladder.

@thomasdaubney4537

23 күн бұрын

There’s only two North Ends. Two North Ends…..

GRIMSBY TOWN BEFORE AND AFTER THE WAR. CREATED THE RECORD ATTENDANCE AT OLD TRAFFORD, NOT MANCHESTER UNITED HOWEVER.

Oxford United are in this year's League One playoff final, so they could also be a Championship team next year.

@John-hh8lq

28 күн бұрын

I hope so... Oxford is my favourite city in England.

@samkirkegaard

28 күн бұрын

Yep! I'll be watching and hoping for them to get promoted.

Bradford City have been in the Premier League. At the turn of the century!

@samkirkegaard

16 күн бұрын

Bradford City have, that's correct. The Bradford that is being referred to in the video is Bradford AFC or Bradford Park Avenue, it's a different club.

@RussellFrost-vh7ro

16 күн бұрын

@samkirkegaard but the Bradford P.A. that exists today, is a phoenix club, not the original. After they went out of the EFL in 1970 or 71, they eventually went bust. A new club was formed, so are not the original entity.

Glossop is the smallest town to have had a top flight club.

@samkirkegaard

29 күн бұрын

True true!

@thomasdaubney4537

23 күн бұрын

Go Glossop

Wasn't Accrington a founder of the Football League too?

@Stoggler

Ай бұрын

That was Accrington FC, who went out of business early on. (19th century). The current football league team is Accrington Stanley, a different club altogether.

@samkirkegaard

Ай бұрын

They sure were! They are one of the non-active clubs that have done this. I suppose it is hard to play in the Premier League when you folded over 100 years ago. hahaha

@Stoggler

Ай бұрын

@@samkirkegaard failing on a mere technicality:-)

@mjc8281

Ай бұрын

I was thinking about that myself you could also include Darwen and Bury. I thought perhaps it was because Accrington was a reformed team which would also knock out Darwen and Bury... But Park Avenue shouldn't be included then either.

@samkirkegaard

Ай бұрын

@@mjc8281 I suppose from what I read, since I wasn't alive at the time, Park Avenue never stopped playing even when they went bankrupt. They just started playing amateur Sunday league football. So, I included them because it didn't seem like the start of a separate club when they went under. They just kept playing then eventually became a professional or semi-professional club again. Where as Bury FC when they went under, supporters bought the name, history, memorabilia, etc. Then a different club, Bury AFC, was started by a separate group of supporters. Later on it was voted they merge the two clubs and the two clubs merged history. So, once again it didn't seem like one active club throughout. Bury FC, the original club, was in the top flight, not the new merged club even though they decided to merge their history. With Darwen FC, they went under in 2009 and then a new club AFC Darwen was formed separately, then later on in 2022 they changed the name to Darwen Football Club after the previously fallen club. But, once again, I wasn't in the room for all these decisions, so I can only go by what I read and hear. So in the video Bury FC is the club that played top flight football, the new merged club hasn't. Same with Darwen FC, they played top flight football, AFC Darwen which was renamed later on has not. Either way, that's why I came to these conclusions in the video. At least from what I understood that was the most accurate way to represent the clubs that were active vs. non-active defunt or reformed new clubs. But, I'm learning new stuff all the time, so I'm open to being wrong.

Bury were in top flight up until the 1920's

@user-hk2el1th7q

25 күн бұрын

They were but the video is concentrating on those that are still active.

@seyvend

24 күн бұрын

@@user-hk2el1th7qyou mean like Bury?

@user-hk2el1th7q

24 күн бұрын

​@@seyvendSam Kirkegaard explains it in replies to other posts.

never heard of glossop.....the club i mean. A fall from grace!

Who were the other 3?

@samkirkegaard

29 күн бұрын

Accrington FC which folded over 100 years ago. Bury FC, which folded in 2020, and a group of supporters acquired the name, history, memorabilia etc. In 2021 Bury AFC was created and joined the 10th tier of English football. Then in 2023 the supporters who owned the Bury FC name voted to merge with the Bury AFC club and it was approved. So, although the clubs combined, really it's a different club with the same name three years later. The other one is Darwen FC who folded in 2009. Then a new club AFC Darwen was formed in the same year. In 2022 AFC Darwen decided to take the name of the previously fallen club so AFC Darwen is now Darwen FC again.

Are Bradford Park Avenue still a club. I obviously know Bradford are but not sure about the former

@samkirkegaard

18 күн бұрын

Yep! They are playing. They got relegated to the Northern Premier League Division One East this season.

Knew my Bristol City would be in there. Perpetual disappointment.

@rjjcms1

26 күн бұрын

And wasn't there controversy surrounding the way they were relegated from the top flight?

@markwillcocks7701

25 күн бұрын

Last up there early 80s as an argyle fan I would love to see the Robins back up there again

@user-hk2el1th7q

25 күн бұрын

​@@rjjcms1You may be thinking of Sunderland's relegation in 1977. They, Coventry and Bristol City went into the last match of the season all battling to stay up. Sunderland were away at Everton and lost 2-0. Coventry played Bristol City and kick off was delayed 15 minutes or so due to crowd congestion. In a blood and thunder game Coventry went 2-0 up before Bristol City fought back to equalise. With 15 minutes to go the tannoy announcer gave the Sunderland score, meaning both clubs would stay up if the game ended as a draw. The draw was duly achieved without either team menacing the opposition goal after that.

@rjjcms1

24 күн бұрын

@@user-hk2el1th7q You're right. That was the one I meant. My mistake. Thanks!

Bradford have been in the Premier League 99-2001

@samkirkegaard

9 күн бұрын

Bradford City did, not Bradford (Park Avenue), which is the club I'm talking about in the video.

Sheffield Wednesday?

@samkirkegaard

27 күн бұрын

Sheffield Wednesday played in the Premier League from 1992-2000 when they got relegated and haven't been back since so they don't qualify to make the list.

Bradford have played in the Premier league in the 2000 season

@TheGiantKillers

26 күн бұрын

That's where you're wrong. But only if you know the Footballing heritage of the city. That's because, prior to the 1970s, the team you're talking about, Bradford City, were absolutely never referred to simply as Bradford. When people talking Football mentioned Bradford, they were talking about a completely different club. Bradford were in the top flight in the years either side of World War One and played at Park Avenue stadium. The city of course also had a Bradford Rugby club so Bradford, when written down, always put the name of their stadium, Park Avenue in brackets. Hence the team being Bradford {Park Avenue} Bradford City were never referred to as simply Bradford, until Bradford {Park Avenue} went bust in the 70s. So, he's quite right, Bradford have never played in the Premier League whereas Bradford City have. Indeed for a brief period either side of the great war, Bradford had a top flight local derby.

@anthonykeefe971

25 күн бұрын

Sadly, Bradford PA have just been relegated for the second successive season, and will be in the eighth tier for 2024/5.

@borderlands6606

24 күн бұрын

@@TheGiantKillers I think Bradford was the smallest city/town to have two football league teams. When Park Avenue went bust, Nottingham was the smallest place with more than one league side. Compare to the population of Leeds, with one team.

Sam's best friend has 6 fingers on one of his hands. He contributed to this video by explaining to Sam what 11 really meant.

Not sure you can include Bradford Park Avenue as the club folded in 1970 and may not be the only one. That the name is used I don’t see as the same club, eg AFC Wimbledon did not win the FACup not that their supporters will say otherwise.

You missed Plymouth Argyle

@samkirkegaard

29 күн бұрын

Plymouth Argyle have never played top flight football. In fact, I think this is correct, but Plymouth is the largest city in England to have never hosted a top flight men's football team.

@rjjcms1

26 күн бұрын

@@samkirkegaard That's true. Plymouth took over the mantle of largest city never to have had a top flight football team from Hull when Hull City were promoted to the Premier League in 2008.

Bradford have played in the Premier League but Bradford Park Avenue have not. Shoddy research

@samkirkegaard

27 күн бұрын

Bradford City have played in the PL, which is not the club I reference in the video. When I reference Bradford, the Bradford (Park Avenue) logo is displayed showing the audience that's the club I'm referencing. Bradford (Park Avenue) is officially called Bradford AFC, they only added the (Park Avenue) to differentiate themselves from Bradford City and Bradford Northern RLFC. Still their club uses those names interchangeably Bradford AFC, Bradford, or simply Park Avenue. Since 1907, when the initial rugby club Bradford FC changed to start playing football, the club was referred to as "Bradford" in fixtures lists, results, and in the press.

@TheGiantKillers

26 күн бұрын

Bang on the money. Couldn't have put it better myself.

Cambridge United

@user-hk2el1th7q

25 күн бұрын

Cambridge United have never been in the top division.

@mattthegroundhopper9242

24 күн бұрын

Sorry, was thinking of Oxford 🤔

Bradford have definitely been in the PL

@user-bq2tc6dh6t

Ай бұрын

Bradford City have but that Bradford is a different club

Love football...hate corrupt money grabbing premier league. Just a money making gimmick that hopefully will one day go bankrupt 😂

Bradford have played in the premier league..

@samkirkegaard

29 күн бұрын

Bradford City have played in the PL. Bradford Park Avenue is a different club, which is the club referenced in this video.

Miiiii

@DS-od1kb

28 күн бұрын

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@interstellarbeatteller9306

27 күн бұрын

@@DS-od1kb Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillwall 'The Millwall drone'

@DS-od1kb

27 күн бұрын

@@interstellarbeatteller9306 How uninteresting.

@interstellarbeatteller9306

26 күн бұрын

@@DS-od1kb We also sing Hey Jude, but I guess The Beatles are too old & boring for you!

Bristol City will never make it to the Premier League because we have a board of directors who only appoint spineless yes men in key positions. They care more about their own egos than about seeing our club progress. We’re going nowhere.

@samkirkegaard

Ай бұрын

I feel for you. Seems to be a theme with a lot of clubs. I hope it happens for you at some point though.

@grahambeyrout1767

Ай бұрын

After what happened last time they were in the old first division, namely 3 successive relegations, I suspect the directors are afraid of being promoted.

@michaelsullivan1631

Ай бұрын

COULD BE FOUR OXFORD ARE IN THE PLAYOFF FINAL. AND IPSWICH DID BACK TO BACK PROMOTION.

@DJ-fl4gn

Ай бұрын

Amen. Been waiting to see the Robins in the Premier League since I was 7. Almost 30 years later, and I'm so sick of how mediocre we are. And more broadly, it's a disgrace that Bristol has no team in the top flight.

@Instasamps

26 күн бұрын

100%, I thought it would change when Mark Ashton left, now he’s in the prem 🙄

There are so many meaningless stats around in football these days, and this is another one. Obviously Americans don't understand how football works in England.