One Man's Fall - a verbal account of 1099, the year of the Ultimate Heresy (Trench Crusade Fiction)

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This is an odd video. With official lore being scarce now (one man can only do so much), we venture into the area of embellishment by us mere players. I thought it would be fun to tell a story within this world, and this is what I came up with. One Man's Fall. This is very much an experimental video, do not expect it to do well, but I did want to write a story. lol
Trench Crusade is an upcoming skirmish game designed by artist Mike Franchina, sculptor James Sheriff, and former Games Workshop designer Tuomas Pirinen (He who made Mordheim).
www.trenchcrusade.com/
Background music is paid for and licensed through Envato Elements.
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  • @karllosikarlstadt5214
    @karllosikarlstadt521424 күн бұрын

    Immagine if the demon made him immortal, thus denying him his hell and ''salvation''. Thats what I call evil.

  • @MorningLightMtn
    @MorningLightMtn23 күн бұрын

    Poor guy, he got played like a fiddle. He's delusional if he thinks that minor act of betrayal and his ineffectual preaching will net him power and prestige in hell. At best, he'll be turned into a hellspawn foot soldier to be sent back to the war he wished to leave. At worst, well, that demon could easily think of worse fates than my mere mortal mind.

  • @charlieboone1298
    @charlieboone129824 күн бұрын

    Absolutely phenomenal work, man. Delivering it in that epistolic style that you find in Dracula or an SCP entry was the right move. Incredibly well-written and performed.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    Thanks so much, I was kinda nervous about this one. lol

  • @mycaleb8
    @mycaleb822 күн бұрын

    I like the interpretation of what the Heretics (at least some of them) value about their service. A narcissistic "I'm the soecial one" love of themselves and their masters is both a neat inverted version of the Abrahamic faiths, and an explanation of why the Heretics are so loyal to such openly cruel masters. They believe that they may be the unique individual chosen and blessed by their own inner value and strength, and so they alone won't be preyed on and betrayed. It's the most malign expression of faith.

  • @bartomiejboguski9676
    @bartomiejboguski967619 күн бұрын

    I love how all of the fall the squad leader gives up to is due to his own lack of faith and perseverance mimicking templars from the story that might also be a knot of lies. Well played demon.

  • @theknave1915
    @theknave191524 күн бұрын

    Whenever someone says the words "their truth" that is the time to get the heck out because nothing further can be trusted.

  • @jakerooke174
    @jakerooke17423 күн бұрын

    The demon acting like he’s worth the time of a smiting and Satan probably has found plotarmium to keep him save

  • @williamvinje1670
    @williamvinje167024 күн бұрын

    Great job. I enjoyed this a lot. Please keep at it; you have a flair for 'grimdark style.'

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    Thank you, I really appreciate y'all checking it out.

  • @tonijustamantejacobs6251
    @tonijustamantejacobs625124 күн бұрын

    I will say this type of videos, where creators enrich the Trench Crusade lore with their own contributions, only helps to make the game more narrative and gives a sense of human scale to the lore. Like in Warhammer, the lore is there to be respected and followed, but the histories, like Eisenhorn for example, are what truly gives depth and really immerse the player into that universe. This very same thing is what you are doing here, please keep doing it, we will be listening.

  • @scottjackson8771
    @scottjackson877124 күн бұрын

    Godfrey was played by brendon Gleason in kingdom of heaven, so that’s who I’m imagining

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    Gleeson is great in that film. Absolutely chews the scenery to shreds. lol

  • @joeytodd795

    @joeytodd795

    24 күн бұрын

    Spot on, me too.

  • @charlieboone1298

    @charlieboone1298

    23 күн бұрын

    Gleeson played Reynald de Chatillon. Still a good shout though, given the mad bastard he played.

  • @user-nz6bk7lf8u

    @user-nz6bk7lf8u

    23 күн бұрын

    That movie is so good.

  • @user-kn3de9li1u

    @user-kn3de9li1u

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@charlieboone1298yes you are correct. He was a real pos in that movie. what a great actor

  • @dekuvisuals9847
    @dekuvisuals984717 күн бұрын

    ‘That year most foul’ is such a badass name for a horrible year

  • @joakker8820

    @joakker8820

    9 күн бұрын

    2020 the prequel

  • @fernandocruz6135
    @fernandocruz613524 күн бұрын

    Thats was darkly and sickeningly good! I’d love to hear more stories!

  • @fathurshaon123
    @fathurshaon12324 күн бұрын

    I did not expect it to go well either but the tone and atmosphere of the story was immaculate and captivating indeed. No intricate plot, no adrenaline and no over grooming of the evil.... It is simplicity at its finest manifestation, one that leaves its listeners with their own sense judgement and benefit of doubt. Experiment successful in my opinion. Would love to hear more honestly. To my acknowledgment, in the arc of the Divine and Unholy, nothing is true and everything is permitted. To that end, I don't see any reason to be held back or left waiting for official lore.

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700
    @sohrabroozbahani470024 күн бұрын

    Good lore making, so finally the stories are coming out...

  • @heluphicclovanass8954
    @heluphicclovanass895422 күн бұрын

    Phenomenally well-written

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    22 күн бұрын

    Thanks so much, means a lot to me that folks are enjoying it. :)

  • @Fnmag762
    @Fnmag76224 күн бұрын

    Thought it was game/official lore until I read your note, that was a really good story, ty.

  • @MorningLightMtn
    @MorningLightMtn23 күн бұрын

    I can actually think of an easy practical counter, not a religious one, but a reasonable one for the average person. "And what does Hell offer instead of Heaven? Do you think I'm stupid enough to think that I would instantly become a Prince of Hell for some minor sin of betrayal? After they kill me, I will arrive in Hell, not celebrated, but ridiculed, manipulated and subservient. Just like the mortal world, only far FAR worse. And no, I don't trust your "word" that I will have a place of power in your legion. I'm doubtful, not gullible" "I've seen the horrors your "people" have done on the regular. I know the terrible fates that await those that are in your grasp. Exploitation, dominion, torture, torment, horror, agony, despair. A sea of damned souls all so a few powerful demons can have just that bit more force to backstab each other, despite the constant betrayal being detrimental to the conquest of Earth. You want me to throw away the normal, average, generic but still relatively decent life for one infinitely worse on the small chance it might not be worse? No thanks, demon. God may have made me full of questions and doubt, but thankfully He made me practical enough to see your lies" "Ooooo, I'm just a sheep, a slave" "Better those than being the deluded fool that turned himself into an eternally tortured toy of a prince of Hell"

  • @elliotyourarobot

    @elliotyourarobot

    21 күн бұрын

    It's the cult of suffering. They believe they are worthy because they suffered.

  • @marcoslopez127

    @marcoslopez127

    17 күн бұрын

    Is that you, Jaghatai Khan?

  • @Winter_Of_Civilisation
    @Winter_Of_Civilisation24 күн бұрын

    This is what I like about trench crusade, even hell has its enticing reasons, I and I find that more disturbing than just muh evil. Personally I think the church of metamorphosis is the most scary, as the idea of only being able to experience different realms of reality by transforming your body, especially becoming no longer human is top tier nightmare fuel. Maybe a video? 👀👀💅

  • @elliotyourarobot
    @elliotyourarobot21 күн бұрын

    The ritual described doesn't sound that strong enough to permanently open the gates of hell. This sounds like a classic fictiobal demon half truth.

  • @charlestorok2631
    @charlestorok263124 күн бұрын

    This was excellent! Great work! You’re like the vaatividya of Trench Crusade!

  • @davidtellez6690
    @davidtellez669024 күн бұрын

    The story and narration are fantastic. It fits very well with the official lore.

  • @2ndrangerbattalion
    @2ndrangerbattalion24 күн бұрын

    Beautifully done brother. I always find myself chomping at the bit to get more Trench Crusade lore whenever I see it and you never fail to deliver. I will never not crave more from this beautiful new "world" I've found and I'm glad I've found it through you.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    Thank you, sir. Just glad you are having a good time with it all. :)

  • @kitrinayolie
    @kitrinayolie22 күн бұрын

    If Scanner isn't a member or a creator of the game, I most definitely am surprised given the sheer detail of the lore he gives us.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    22 күн бұрын

    Nope, just some dork! lol

  • @kitrinayolie

    @kitrinayolie

    22 күн бұрын

    @@scannerbarkly Well clearly somebody on board with the game should correct that. The pairing of your voice with the slightly unsettling music is perfect.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    21 күн бұрын

    @@kitrinayolie Thank you, that really means a lot to me. :)

  • @Darksky1001able
    @Darksky1001able24 күн бұрын

    I wanna see someone provide the counter to this and explain the man did indeed kill for selfish reasons and strayed too far from the path.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    I mean, what happened can be entirely your interpretation. The heretics may have been lying. The Lieutenant may have just been weak, and his men were stronger, which is why he turned and they did not.

  • @Darksky1001able

    @Darksky1001able

    23 күн бұрын

    @@scannerbarkly Or he could have entirely imagined it all due to his weakness.

  • @MorningLightMtn

    @MorningLightMtn

    23 күн бұрын

    I can think of an easy practical counter, not a religious one, but a reasonable one for the average person. "And what does Hell offer instead of Heaven? Do you think I'm stupid enough to think that I would instantly become a Prince of Hell for some minor sin of betrayal? After they kill me, I will arrive in Hell, not celebrated, but ridiculed, manipulated and subservient. Just like the mortal world, only far FAR worse." "I've seen the horrors your "people" have done on the regular. I know the terrible fates that await those that are in your grasp. Exploitation, dominion, torment, horror, agony, despair. You want me to throw away the normal, average, generic but still relatively decent life for one infinitely worse on the small chance it might not be worse? No thanks, demon. God may have made me doubtful, but thankfully He made me practical enough to see your lies" "Ooooo, I'm just a sheep, a slave" "Better those than being the deluded fool that turned himself into an eternally tortured toy of a prince of Hell"

  • @OnyArt
    @OnyArt24 күн бұрын

    That darn 1099 !!! :D Great video.

  • @hoverpantsz262
    @hoverpantsz26221 күн бұрын

    This is great stuff most evil and fits well with what we know so far. Also reminds me a bit of Clark ashton smiths works but without the fluffy language. Keep it up it is good.

  • @Jamhael1
    @Jamhael123 күн бұрын

    From what I've see, the problem was that it was the sheer cynicism of war is what eroded the faith of the templars, and while the cynicism is true, the lies of the devil led them astray. If the templars used this cynicism to also see that the devil is not a better master than god, then all of this could be avoided...

  • @fluxtheory3136

    @fluxtheory3136

    13 күн бұрын

    The problem is that would require abandoning hope of there being love and salvation at all, after all if not even the devil can provide it, who else is there? What's scarier, the lies of the devil, or the knowledge that there is no ultimate reward? That your past deeds do not have any intrinsic value and there is no authority to grant you what you truly desire.

  • @Jamhael1

    @Jamhael1

    13 күн бұрын

    @@fluxtheory3136 and that is the problem: you believe that your existence "grants" you "purpose". What is the other option beyond "existence"? Besides, tools have "purpose" - and Humans are NOT TOOLS.

  • @fluxtheory3136

    @fluxtheory3136

    13 күн бұрын

    @@Jamhael1 I'm simply writing from the perspective of someone in-universe. Whether we like it or not, people who we would call prophets, zealots or crusaders are what they are because have no doubts in their sense of purpose. Their purpose is provides the fuel for their inner fire which the vast majority lack, and to survive in the universe of trench crusade a sense of purpose is simply not optional, but a pre-requisite to survival. Modern atheists or humanists like us are internally very hollow. There is no spiritual "fat" to buttress against extreme levels of hardship and suffering. Think about how quickly you yourself will break after having nails driven into your shins during an interrogation. In such a world, whether you stand with the Creator or with the forces of Hell, when your survival is determined by your devotion or fanaticism, those with weak faith are weeded out with extreme prejudice. The person you described who is capable of doubting both heaven and hell does not exist, because he would wind up dead extremely quickly.

  • @johnnymartinez1126
    @johnnymartinez112622 күн бұрын

    You are super cool man i hope this gets the love it deserves from everyone. I'll sure as hell be showing my friend who enjoys 40k!

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    22 күн бұрын

    Thanks for taking the time to check it out. Not sure about the super cool thing, however. lol

  • @halosas9854
    @halosas98545 күн бұрын

    I would love more of this, you definetely have a talent for this

  • @a_random_orthodox_Christian
    @a_random_orthodox_Christian16 күн бұрын

    Always good to see a fellow writer also this is some excellent work

  • @terranbrah
    @terranbrah23 күн бұрын

    this was amazing

  • @SirJellyBean
    @SirJellyBean20 күн бұрын

    Fantastic videos dude loving the Trench Crusade lore

  • @MachineMan-mj4gj
    @MachineMan-mj4gj24 күн бұрын

    God not intervening in the lives of mortals is kind of his schtick. He sends hardships to make you stronger and better, a harsh parent, but it's harshness borne of love.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    In our world. In Trench Crusade He performs miracles through Clerics, the Observers hear His voice and He keeps them safe, etc. The character would have seen plenty of incidents that he could interpret as God acting directly through others, but never through him.

  • @yamibakura8597

    @yamibakura8597

    24 күн бұрын

    Trench Crusade was clearly written by people who do not understand Christian theology.

  • @housewilma4904

    @housewilma4904

    24 күн бұрын

    mostly cause god knows about human game theory. which basically is the idea that if the lord gave humans everything they asked for theyd do what ever he said for the reward and not because they agree or undersand morally gods teachings. like in videos games if you give someone a instant win button they will alwaus use it even if it hurts there experince.

  • @joeytodd795

    @joeytodd795

    24 күн бұрын

    The kind of parenting that creates tyrants & mass murderers. Have any of you seem that AWESOME short horror film on KZread "Portrait of God"? Phenomenal. No jump scares, nothing cheap. Just an angle I certainly wouldn't have initially thought of, and one that Trench Crusade seems to be nailing....what, with the Meta-Christ clones and whatnot. If Biblically accurate angels are anything to go by...for these things...even the "good ones" to exist, they'd likely be terrifying beyond all mortal reckoning.

  • @joeytodd795

    @joeytodd795

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@scannerbarkly I heard there are snipers whose buff is that they somehow could hear the voice of God, who in effect acts as their "spotter". Trade off is, they're all half mad, and can never sleep naturally again.

  • @faelanisawesome
    @faelanisawesome15 күн бұрын

    This is fantastic, love to see more content like this.

  • @Sara3346
    @Sara334616 күн бұрын

    Thank you, this made better a very horrendously hard month do not doubt yourself too much, you do good work.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    16 күн бұрын

    Sorry to hear that times are tough. I hope they get better for you soon. :)

  • @MrJackWorse
    @MrJackWorse15 күн бұрын

    That was awesome, man! Can't wait for more!

  • @free_at_last8141
    @free_at_last814123 күн бұрын

    What's in the box? What's in the box?!

  • @blights5468
    @blights54685 күн бұрын

    Bro got tricked by the Joel Olsteen demon

  • @someguycalledCh0wdah
    @someguycalledCh0wdah24 күн бұрын

    The word "heresy" gets used a lot in trench crusade incorrectly Heresy is offering a misinterperetation or twisting holy scripture to suit your worldly ideals or wants. What's being discussed in this setting pure BLASPHEMY Opening a portal to hell is a bit more serious than a philosophical misreading of the bible

  • @xenoblad

    @xenoblad

    24 күн бұрын

    So heresy is to blasphemy what manslaughter is to first degree murder?

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    I would say that the portal was more a result of the Heresy. A bunch of dudes all out having a merry crusade for God suddenly deciding "you know what, fuck this guy" is the heresy? Religious doctrine would be that God acts through us, and we should have faith in that. Heresy would be them standing around going "You know how kinda kicks ass? We do. Definitely NOT God." Then we get to the Blasphemy.

  • @someguycalledCh0wdah

    @someguycalledCh0wdah

    17 күн бұрын

    @@xenoblad yeah pretty much

  • @someguycalledCh0wdah

    @someguycalledCh0wdah

    17 күн бұрын

    @xenoblad like "I'm Catholic but I don't think the pope is God's true representative on earth" is heresy "I hate God and stand in clear opposition to Him" is blasphemy

  • @justwannabehappy6735
    @justwannabehappy673524 күн бұрын

    Hell yeah

  • @hippo4214
    @hippo42146 күн бұрын

    this was a captivating story

  • @DefeatedRoyalist
    @DefeatedRoyalist12 күн бұрын

    My friend your writing is superb! As one of faith and a lover of Cosmic horror I think you nailed the vibe that TC is going for! Please continue to write :) you have a god given talent and clearly are astute in your craft! Peace and love my brother!

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    12 күн бұрын

    Thank you kindly!

  • @toi_techno
    @toi_techno15 күн бұрын

    Very cool

  • @sampaulson4620
    @sampaulson462024 күн бұрын

    great

  • @therencepalino8111
    @therencepalino811124 күн бұрын

    Awesome as always. Might even make a story of my own in response. On my own channel.

  • @paulgrant4473
    @paulgrant447324 күн бұрын

    Woof, that was dark...

  • @nsort3009
    @nsort300923 күн бұрын

    Well, Mr Demon, is answer is so common across fictional versions of Christianity that it's a bit of a cliche. Most notably the Faith of the Seven in Game of Thrones, and most if not all depictions in Anime. The first is simply as people in real world, we must all grapple with the question of why we suffer despite the supposed existence of a loving god, and that's always going to be the most compelling system. 2nd, is that Christian metaphysics is All or Nothing. God is either the Absolute Ruler of the universe whose name can be invoked to instantly banish any lesser supernatural forces; Or he's a fake, a powerless figurehead who's followers somehow replaced every enpowered religion. Trench Crusade takes a common solution to this by giving New Antioch Catholic Flavored Blood Magic, as usual, arguably worse than either the Heretic Legions or Iron Sultanate

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    23 күн бұрын

    Hate to break it to you buddy, but real life Catholicism has blood magic. Transubstantiation is a thing.

  • @nsort3009

    @nsort3009

    23 күн бұрын

    @@scannerbarkly Yes, thank you, the inspiration for this is based on real life Catholic tradition

  • @cain1605
    @cain160514 күн бұрын

    Would love a video on life in New Antioch for the average person and how horrific it is

  • @isaaccharlton3114
    @isaaccharlton311422 күн бұрын

    The terrifying part of this is how the author so perfectly captures how demons act. The pervasive whisperings of temptation, pulling man away from a higher purpose and the love of God under the pretense of “freedom”. They then appeal to our passions and our fallen nature, more or less feeding our pride while also causing us to despair of the mercy of God. This also is a great example of how dangerous it is for a man to be deprived of the sacraments, most especially the Holy Eucharist and confession. If they had been apart from the church and a priest to celebrate mass/hear their confessions for months, they surely would have been crushed by the weight of their sin.

  • @catspyjamas8005
    @catspyjamas800510 күн бұрын

    Did you write this? It's really good, very impressive work.

  • @elliotyourarobot
    @elliotyourarobot3 күн бұрын

    Ways i see it, we may never be told what really happened, but heres my 2 cents. Either its something grneric like human sacrifice or they disobaying a direct order from God like how Shaitan refused to bow to Adam. An example would be to not kill the saint that was keeping the gates closed. Like how, during the final siege of Constantinople, The Conqueror was unable to breach the walls because a saint was keeping the city safe. So he prayed, and that saint was lifted up to paradise, thus leaving the city open. Another idea is maybe they begged for penitence as they saw how curropted the Church was and how weak the faith had become. Like in the video game Blasphemous.

  • @NathanielNerquaye-Tetteh-uz2nf
    @NathanielNerquaye-Tetteh-uz2nf24 күн бұрын

    W vid as always

  • @darkerwinds
    @darkerwinds21 күн бұрын

    Thank you for being real. I’m so tired of AI lore vids

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    21 күн бұрын

    Thank you. Unfortunately, more and more stuff on KZread is being voiced by AI work and it's so fucking boring.

  • @conshera
    @conshera21 күн бұрын

    Will there be tanks and aircraft? I mean it doesn’t need it

  • @50043211
    @5004321120 күн бұрын

    I just stumbled upon Trench Crusade so I know nothing, besides that the minis look awesome, god or his agents dont talk to humans nor support them in any shape or form and humanity has not switched side by now? 🤔

  • @skyekrichel7621
    @skyekrichel762124 күн бұрын

    Please do faction review 🙏 Like look through the rules and do a breakdown please and thanks God bless

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    That's one the way soon! Just need a little break from the current busy work season, so once the Elden Ring DLC has been out for a week or so, imma dive into them. :)

  • @nestoj
    @nestoj13 күн бұрын

    dude, have some water 😂

  • @user-nk8gb2jd1e
    @user-nk8gb2jd1e24 күн бұрын

    lol of course it was godfrey hes the fox

  • @WokeCrusade
    @WokeCrusade24 күн бұрын

    Where did you get this lore from?

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    23 күн бұрын

    I wrote it.

  • @Watam8o
    @Watam8o9 күн бұрын

    Might be a dumb question but is this fan-made lore or does this have a basis in what is going to be considered "canon". I mean specifically the parts on the first heresy/sin.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    9 күн бұрын

    This is just a story that I made up. The point is that the demon could be telling the truth to the Lieutenant, he could be lying. There is no real way for him or the listener to know.

  • @elliotyourarobot

    @elliotyourarobot

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@scannerbarkly Also, the lieutenant may be telling the truth or lying as well.

  • @elliotyourarobot
    @elliotyourarobot21 күн бұрын

    I just noticed on reflection that neither the Antioc soldiers nor the Muslim did anything religious. There was no mention of any or all the soldiers praying at all and the Muslim not giving the proper greeting.

  • @ttterg6152

    @ttterg6152

    19 күн бұрын

    The life of a religious man isn’t about mentioning God and praying every single second. Religious people live as much as they can inside their religions borders

  • @elliotyourarobot

    @elliotyourarobot

    16 күн бұрын

    @@ttterg6152 Then you haven't met many.

  • @yamibakura8597
    @yamibakura859724 күн бұрын

    I really like this story, but I will choose to believe it is a lie by the Enemy. Infernal propaganda designed to weaken our faith.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    Yes! This is what I kinda left in the story. Plenty of room for doubt. Why believe a demon? Why believe Amis? Maybe the Lietenant was just weak? Maybe he was lying to the Church and made the whole thing up? It's fun. lol

  • @user-nz6bk7lf8u

    @user-nz6bk7lf8u

    23 күн бұрын

    No other possible explanation. Dang o prerpagenders ✊️

  • @Aberinkula9

    @Aberinkula9

    23 күн бұрын

    Your choice, weakling. 😊 (Roleplaying here, OK)

  • @spartanx9293
    @spartanx929324 күн бұрын

    what awaits you their is eternal torment people forget the devil doesn't run hell he's too scared to set foot in their god does

  • @Aberinkula9

    @Aberinkula9

    23 күн бұрын

    English, please?

  • @Tracer_Krieg
    @Tracer_Krieg24 күн бұрын

    I have a problem with the lore here and that's due to the date. The Templars are described as having sold their souls to Satan and opening the gates of hell in the year 1099... except they couldn't have. The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (Knights Templar) were not founded until 1119, 20 years after the fact, and their order only consisted of 10 total knights. It would not be until 1129 that their order grew beyond this due advocacy by saints within the Church. Now, if this had been Crusaders who fell to heresy, this would work, or if the opening of Hell's Gate occurred at least a century later, but instead Templars are once more chosen to be the villains when it doesn't make historical sense.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    It's not a historically accurate game, my dude. It's an alternate history. Stuff will happen before or after it happens in real life. Some important historical figures will still exist, and some will not. It's really interesting to me that you can get behind the whole army of hell invading earth thing, but Templars existing and Jerusalem falling a little earlier is apparently not on. lol Woods and trees, my dude.

  • @Tracer_Krieg

    @Tracer_Krieg

    24 күн бұрын

    @@scannerbarkly Alternate History works when it is historically accurate, as it adds layers of intrigue to the story. As I said, had the gates been opened a century later, it would opened more additional lore due to: a.) The Templars being an established military force who already would have ties to the rest of Europe through their banking systems. b.) 1199 being when the Third Crusade Ended, the Crusader Kingdoms were at their weakest, and Richard the Lionheart campaigning in Europe, dying towards the start of this year. c.) Caliph Muhammad al-Nasir ascended the throne of Almohad Caliphate and further expanding Arabic rule through Hispania. I get why 1099 was chosen, as this was when the fall of Jerusalem occurred, but some historical research would add more to the lore. Instead, it's left as something of a clunky starting point for the setting which bugs me as an historian. Oh, I can get behind Hell invading Earth as that can lead to interesting stories, but when set in an historical time period, careful attention to detail can make or break my enjoyment of a setting.

  • @Nonsense010688

    @Nonsense010688

    24 күн бұрын

    Fair enough but honestly I would assume that some things even before 1099 are different from our timeline, simply because both god and devil seem ti be more outwardly active. After all, the betray does imply that they were different before reaching Jerusalem. So maybe in this timeline the order was founded to "free" the temple instead of that being their first quarter and then adopting the name.

  • @johnprice.2727

    @johnprice.2727

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Tracer_Kriegnah

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Tracer_Krieg We fundamentally disagree on the nature of an alternative timeline. lol The Church in Trench Crusade has a space program, my dude. In 1914. This simply may not be the game for you, and that is fine.

  • @pitied3744
    @pitied374421 күн бұрын

    Trench Crusade lore: hardest shit youll ever read The Trench Crusade devs and community: the most cry baby mfs youll ever see

  • @peskymogwai7742
    @peskymogwai77429 күн бұрын

    Jesus is Lord ✡ ☦ 🕊

  • @joaquimpereira4995
    @joaquimpereira499524 күн бұрын

    The templars didn't exist in 1099, I don't get why they insist on saying these dudes were templars

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    24 күн бұрын

    Have you considered the idea this alternative history might be alternate?

  • @Nonsense010688

    @Nonsense010688

    24 күн бұрын

    rule of epic?

  • @joaquimpereira4995

    @joaquimpereira4995

    24 күн бұрын

    @@scannerbarkly Sure but I was under the impression the point of departure WAS 1099, I could be wrong though

  • @GarkKahn

    @GarkKahn

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@scannerbarklyyeah but most alt history is still our history until the change occurs. Not complaining, I'm just explaining why some may be confused

  • @johnmacneill7489

    @johnmacneill7489

    23 күн бұрын

    Could be that that's the hint that the whole story was bullshit

  • @ElmerAwesome
    @ElmerAwesome23 күн бұрын

    I dont like the historical inacuracies in the portrayal of the First Crusade and the sack of Jerusalem. This event is rooted in real history, which is before the setting takes over and becomes fiction; so they couldve gotten it right. The siege of Jerusalem didnt take years; it was sacked in just over a month. The crusaders forces werent wittled down to nothing; they lost about a quarter of their men during the siege. Quite sizable but nothing compared to annihilation in this story. The crusaders didnt feel debased like animals because of the horror they inflicted upon the populace of Jerusalem. They were proud of it. The killing of the heathen (that includes Jews) was seen as a just act and penance before God. The act of slaughter was also the norm for cities that refused to surrender in those days and therefor was not considered noteworthy in any ethical sense. The crusaders as far as I know did not suffer a religious crisis (‘abandoned by God’); this would by hard since friend and foe agreed the First Crusade was an astounding succes. Neighter did the crusaders feel betrayed by the church. The church would validate their claims after the conquest and hail them heroes. I feel like trench crusade depicted the crusaders of the first crusade as bitter and resentful so the story could happen.

  • @scannerbarkly

    @scannerbarkly

    23 күн бұрын

    You religious dudes REALLY don't like anything that doesn't just glaze the Templars, eh?

  • @elliotyourarobot

    @elliotyourarobot

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@scannerbarkly shows his anti-Muslim bias, too.

  • @elliotyourarobot

    @elliotyourarobot

    20 күн бұрын

    Remember, the account comes from an unreliable narrator who is infernal in nature.

  • @johnsears6077

    @johnsears6077

    19 күн бұрын

    The sack of Jerusalem was pretty bad even by the standard of the time, so much so that one of the five captains of the army gave Muslims his flag as a symbol of protection and they were killed anyways, additionally to have done so for CHRISTIANITY, a religion of love and forgiveness is tantamount to insanity

  • @elliotyourarobot

    @elliotyourarobot

    19 күн бұрын

    Sorry, the accounts come from 2 unreliable narrators, both infernal.

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