It explains why Neal said " more years than you can imagine" cos he went to neverland.

0:37 - “2 minutes” 2:39 - “nah times up” Wow, Neal has excellent almost pin point sense of time

@claireaquos6532

2 жыл бұрын

Wow indeed

@KoraggRules

Жыл бұрын

He was stuck in Neverland..time was a thing there

@JavertRA

10 ай бұрын

Tick tock Papa, tick tock!

This reunion is so frickin realistic. You can see how Rumple had thought this all through but it was one-sided. And then you’re finally standing there with this real live person in front of you and the pain and messiness of it all suddenly so incredibly *real*. And there’s just nothing you could’ve done to prepare for it. Does that make any sense whatsoever? Lol

@nicbentulan

2 жыл бұрын

YES.

Neal : "Try abandonment" Gold : "I did"

@michaelrauch8629

4 жыл бұрын

It's true

"14? I don't wanna be 14 again, are you insane?" Imagine the pain of going through puberty again.

@torieowens8277

3 жыл бұрын

I'll pass, thanks.

@DgardsGaming

3 жыл бұрын

F that

@nanalove3819

3 жыл бұрын

I have a thought for Pinnochio.

@dannyt3522

Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t that bad

@reganh5223

Жыл бұрын

@@dannyt3522 Not if you’re a guy. 😂

I love neals hand motions when he is imitating rumplestiltskin!! spot on :D

"i don't want to be 14 again. Are you insane?" haha

@brimstoneclub

9 жыл бұрын

melissab93 I know, puberty...magic or not, that's the worst!

@rosequeen5155

7 жыл бұрын

I honestly wouldnt mind being 14 again and doing things different...IF MY MEMORIES ARE STILL INTACT...

@BrokenTourniquet

7 жыл бұрын

Hands down the most relatable thing Neal has ever said.

@taralang8854

5 жыл бұрын

was thinking the same thing too

@DetectiveJulie

5 жыл бұрын

What do you expect, Neal?

"There's MAGIC there." lol bae's like "dude, you're STILL hooked up with that?"

@lauraschoenborn3544

4 жыл бұрын

Rushy “Come with me to Storybrook, there’s magic there” Neal: *you still don’t get it*

@manishmadarie814

Ай бұрын

lol hook-ed

@DarthRushy

Ай бұрын

@@manishmadarie814 badum tss

"Come with me to Storybrooke. There's MAGIC there." Bae's like "man, are you frickin' kidding me?"

@jordonwood-13

5 ай бұрын

He knows his dad hasn't changed a bit.

Know what, I feel bad for Rumple, but I hella respect Bae for saying "I never got closure, so neither will you" Ice cold but makes you go damnnn

2:15, it's so sad and heart-breaking, but I can't help but laugh every single time at Neal's version of Rumple

@kaylee9639

8 жыл бұрын

I know right

@nicbentulan

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to find a comment like this XD

@Scarlettraventaqua1

2 жыл бұрын

Season 3 reference

@JMPC98

Жыл бұрын

@@Scarlettraventaqua1 season 3 when??

@Scarlettraventaqua1

Жыл бұрын

@@JMPC98 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fWuuysmlh5CxaLA.html at 0:24

I don't know if this was intentional on the actor's part, but Baelfire makes a lot of little gestures and movements when he talks to people, sort of like what Rumplestiltskin does. Bae likes to sway from side to side, look left and right, touch his face/hair, roll his eyes, move his arms, and make gestures with his fingers a lot.

@johnmitchell5060

8 жыл бұрын

+iRazenrak You're really perceptive. I never noticed that before, but now you mention it I see it. That you for helping me see different parts of the performance.

@rosequeen5155

7 жыл бұрын

I think it's purposeful, some of the gestures are exactly rumple.

@iRazenrak

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know if the actor intended it or he's just like that, though.

@JavertRA

2 жыл бұрын

I though it was deliberate when he said "all this... (gestures) crap"

"I've changed." Yeah, I'm sure Baelfire could see that as he watched you lose your shit with Emma, Rumple...

"Come with me to storybrooke. There's magic there." Neal's face LOL.

@DgardsGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah good job thing thing that made him leave you in the first place used to try and get him back because that works 😂

2:16 he did the rumple gesture XD

Neal was such a fantastic character

@soixsantes

Жыл бұрын

yeah, me too i loved neal, he was one of my favorite character

Rumple: “there’s no bigger pain than regret” Neal: “try abandonment” Rumple: “my mother gave me up not too long after I was born and my father ditched me for the sake of power” Neal: “well shit that second one seems familiar” Rumple: “my father never came back *I* did” Neal: “you were lucky” Come on it would not be out of place for once upon a time to take it that far in fact it’d be right at home I kinda wish they did go that direction

@InquieteNightshade

4 жыл бұрын

That would give away too many plot points.

@TTUploads

4 жыл бұрын

They hadn’t written the upcoming seasons yet lol.

@sdm47

4 жыл бұрын

Lel Uchiha That’s why this is a hypothetical

@DgardsGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Me: well you did abandon Henry 🤣

@sdm47

3 жыл бұрын

@@DgardsGaming at what point?

Poor Rumple. :( This scene is so heartbreaking, I can understand why Bae is mad/upset with him, but my heart still can't help but break for Rumple, he has been trying to fix his mistake from the moment he made it.

My God, this Michael Raymond James was fantastic in this scene! really really wonderful

when neal does the hand thing when he says "all this" it just makes me smile every time and i honestly think that whenever he thought about seeing rumple again he you say 'im gonna do the thing he did every f*cking day'

He said, "I don't care. I didn't get closure, so you don't either"

"I came here, to this city, without magic." *You've got something on your shoulder there bud.*

@GothBiDemiGirl

2 ай бұрын

That was only so he would remember everything

I have seen this seen many times... and i gotta say... Michael Raymond-James acted the hell out of that scene! So great!

I love this scene! In my opinion, Neal has EVERY right to hate Rumple, he chose power over his son and he's *still* trying to use magic to fix everything! It'd be different if Rumple learned from his mistakes and actually tried to stop using magic and prove that he could be a good father again but does he do this? Nope, he's still the same guy, still uses magic and people to get what he wants! I know Rumple regretted leaving Neal the minute it happened and spent a long time trying to find a way to get back to him, but *he* could have chosen his son but he didn't. To be honest, it's actually great, for me anyway, to see someone be angry and argue with the one who's supposedly a parent but just abandons you for selfish reasons! What does rumple expect just for Neal to welcome him back into his life with open arms like nothing happened?! Although I did feel bad for rumple when Neal told him "no, I didn't get closure so you don't either. We're done.".

@DgardsGaming

3 жыл бұрын

I mean you can kind of see both sides also considering your comment as one year ago this is after the part where you see how rumple actually erased his sons memory to save him from being corrupted by magic as a kid.

I think that Rumple in Season 4 is ingenious. Honestly, Baelfire and Belle are his life, no matter what. He spent centuries looking for Baelfire, and that search is not only what kept him sane but also encouraged him to join the good side. I feel that Bae dying for him probably left a scar in Rumple- like he was not powerful enough to save Bae and himself. This scar led to him resorting to power again and becoming evil when Belle banished him, and he lost both of the loves (Bae and Belle) of his life.

Rumple: There's no greater than regret. Bae: Try Abandonment. Rumple: Your grandfather left me for youth. At least I looked every where for you.

Take a shot everytime rumple says he’ll change in the show

@soixsantes

Жыл бұрын

Whenever than rumple is happy he destroys everything himself, it's an asshole

"Come with me to Storybrooke. There's magic there!" lol Bae is like "Are you kidding me?"

the subtle hand gestures that Baelfire does at 2:14 to remind The Dark One of the deal they made is like salt in the wound

@soixsantes

Жыл бұрын

yes, in this scene baelfire/neal says the whole anger he has against his father for having abandoned him

He ( Robert Carlyle) really does draw you in to whatever he's saying and doing.....A truly awesome actor!

I love when Neal does the Rumple magic hand movement.

Imagine how livid you have to be to stare down someone who under any other circumstances would have magic at their disposal and cut them so deep. This moment was Rumple's price.

@soixsantes

Жыл бұрын

rumple has abandoned baelfire and he does everything possible for having his forgiveness

@soixsantes

Жыл бұрын

and he has always felt of remorse for having abandoning him

When Neil said abandonment was the biggest pain all I could think of was how he abandoned Emma and how now he knows how Emma felt every night in jail and again when she met Henry

will always be my favorite episode

Ah, back when Rumple was a relatable character...

@claireaquos6532

7 жыл бұрын

DarthRushy So true!

“I can take away the memories.” Me: So, you can make an 11 year old boy disappear?

This scene makes me want to kick August in the teeth. Rumple laid himself bare in The Return. He was totally vulnerable, humbly and honestly apologizing and asking for forgiveness. Can you imagine how he felt when his 'son' accepted it? That horrible burden of guilt finally lifted? It had to be the happiest moment of Rumple's life. And then August socked him in the gut with his deception. Not wonder he's hiding behind the "Let me fix it with magic!' clause here. Poor Rumple AND poor Baefire.

@maxxard7992

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly the worst characters in my opinion would be August, Milah, Reul Ghorm, Tiger Lily, and (just for kix) Anna and Elsa.

Ugh, this scene hurts so much. What an amazing acting on both parts.

0:52 If "i" were Bae: "14?! I don wanna be 14!! Are u insane? Must I look like a brother to my own son and look like a son to my own wife?

@soixsantes

3 жыл бұрын

you are right, and i think that's exactly what would say baelfire

But when Hook told that to Bae, he didn't believe Hook. He said something like "i bet YOU took her heart off". It could have been that he was too much angered and distressed because he thought he finally has found a home and a kind of family (hook and his crew) but then he found out that Hook was the cause of why he hadn't his mother any more (for one reason or another). So i think rather he truly thinks Hook killed her, or he prefers to believe it.

If Rumple had said; "Come with me back to Storybrooke - if not for me, do it for Henry. You get to be with your son, and I get at the very least to _see_ you, if nothing else. I know that I hurt you, and I understand if you wouldn't forgive me, I have certainly never forgiven myself, but - I can't take it back. I _can't_ change the past, and I don't even know if it is possible to make up for the lost time, but I can offer you as much of the time we have ahead of us as you like, if you want it. Please, give me a chance." If he said this, or even the same line he said to August in this scene: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5iXrbmonbCspKQ.html How do you think Neal would have reacted?

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know how neal would have reacted but you made a very nice text for rumple

@ninclow5421

4 жыл бұрын

@@soixsantes Thanks. ^^

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

@@ninclow5421 and rumple loves really his son and it was for him that he wanted to become the dark one

@ninclow5421

4 жыл бұрын

@@soixsantes Yeah, that's how I remember it too.

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

@@ninclow5421 and when baelfire (neal) died before the eyes saddened of rumple and emma , I cried with them

Also, Belle has enabled Gold WAY too much and it's clearly showing here. She's managed to convince him that in spite of all the evil things he's done (and still does the second she's not around), that he expects the same from Bae. It never occurs to him that he might have to work for redemption because Belle always gives him a free pass and he never has to. Its easy for Belle to say he's good when she's always managed to talk him out of doing evil when she's around; Bae didn't have that luxury.

right, everything happened in a breath (when Rumpel choose "magic" over his son) i think that can't be considered as a completely choice. He was afraid, he had lived a life of misery and pain UNTIL magic arrived in his life. Magic also was the reason of why Bae is still alive. So one can't just blame him for be afraid. At the instant he realized what had happened he implored to go with his son. And has dedicated his life to find him

The scene with August was so much better (after he said he was Baelfire)

@xCanYouFeelTheLovex

7 жыл бұрын

VioletxPurple yeah, I'm still confused as to why he never said those things to the real Bae.

Neal has every right to let him go useing magic on others isn't the answear sure he tried to fix things but let magic take controll. Beautiful acting truly

Rumple should’ve met Bae in the afterlife instead of Belle. Yes she was important to him, but the whole story started because of Rumple’s motivation to reunite with his child. It would’ve been a more satisfying ending if his final scene on the show was that very reunion, never for father and son to be separated again.

@soixsantes

2 жыл бұрын

exactly you are right, and for reminder, it was precisely for baelfire that rumple has wanted to become the dark one

@soixsantes

2 жыл бұрын

and when sadly baelfire died under the eyes of rumple i cried with him

2:15 I know y’all laughed at that part 😂

I`m still watching this and it is going to be season 4 this fall! Neal the phone for you please answer it is very important which the message is come BACK TO THE SHOW RIGHT NOW YOUNG MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Technically we can justify Rumpelstiltskin saying that what he did was more an impulse than a choice. At least he did everything to try to find him, while his mother, even if it is declared repented, never came back to get him (although the hook, however, said that they just wanted to wait for her to grow up before doing so). But in fact, however, Bae has every reason to be angry with his father.

I cryed for rumple but understood neils theory and now from all the confusion i have a headache

Now that I've seen the last two episodes of season 2, this all makes sense. And yes, (spoiler alert) Bae did go to Neverland, where he learned (another spoiler) that his mother was killed by Rumple. Now there's even more questions. If Bae knew the whole time that his father killed his mother, why hasn't he called him out on it yet? That doesn't make sense to me. And I totally agree that Rumple should have used the speech on Bae that he used on August.

I felt so bad for Gold...but his idea of turning the clock back and taking away his memories is absurd. Bae just discovered the son he never knew he had...his experiences over the last 20 years has made him who he is...why would he think Bae wants to forget Emma and his son. Gold needs to realize that magic and power is not the answer...some things you just can't fix. He needs to learn from his past mistakes and try to build a new relationship with his adult son.

I liked the nice rumplestilskin at least then he truly loves his son baelfire feels that his father abandoned him I don't blame him

Of course, but she knows there is the true Rumpel (the one he was after the curse) behind that curse. So what she does, convincing him to bring out his good side, is not a bad thing at all. Thanks Belle, he is striving to have a good behavior. Reject him, hate him and confront him in a bad way has never managed that

I love Neal (Michael Raymond James is awesome he's my background on my phone)

@lauraschoenborn3544

5 жыл бұрын

Ashley Elizabeth not a bad face to stare at every day.

Eh I wouldn't have handled the situation like Rumple did. I would've explained to Neal why I let go him whilst we were above the portal. Then I would just say "I'm sorry for what I did. I wish I never did it. All the pain you experienced because of what I did.. I wish you never went through it. I'm so sorry you did. Please forgive me." At this point he has apologised for everything, said he wished Bae hadn't gone through the pain he did as a result of Gold's actions so I think Neal would have to forgive him.

@LiLKel4

6 жыл бұрын

SongMeanings but he said something similar to this to August back in season one when he thought it was Bae. He told him he spent every waking hour looking for him. I wish we had that speech.

I like how Nealfire imitated Rumple's little magic hand gesture.

I couldn’t stand how Neal treated Emma but I wish that he hadn’t died. Henry didn’t get a chance to know his father. I think if Neal had lived that Rumplestiltskin would have been a better grandfather to Henry. Henry was the last link to Neal and he didn’t even try to bond with Henry.

This scene made me like Michael Raymond James as an actor...Too good

There is so much wrong with this scene here. For starters, Gold's speech to August when he was under the impression he was actually his son was much more heartfelt than this one. He owned up to what he did and apologized ; here its like he's saying, "Hey, try and see my side of things here. I know I screwed up and you suffered for it, but I've got my problems too."

so sad.. :'( you made me realize of something! i already get why he didn't offered the apology that he gave to August. At that moment he hadn't got his magic, so it was all he has to offered. i agree, it would be much better but he doesn't think so.His life started to go well when he got magic. (specially because it saved his son's life). Now he has magic again, he returns to the safe thing. It's like a drug, or wine for alcoholics. If he tastes a little of it, he can't help but hold on to it

"There's MAGIC there" Spoken like a right drug addict

Technically, however, she was strict when it came to honesty, keeping promises, and kill. This series shows us just that is not easy to redeem a person, and that in some cases you have to have understanding and patience. Belle could help to improve him because it is past above all his past crimes. Anyway, Rumpelstiltskin was not completely naive. After all, even after this conversation did not give up the hope of peace with his son. He had expected that it would not be easy anyway.

Robert Carlyle is terrific.

i love his impression of rumple soooooooooooooo good

Rumple had a choice; Be with his son or keep being the Dark One. And he chose keep being the Dark One, plain and simple.

@jordonwood-13

5 ай бұрын

Rumple always had a bad habit of making bad & wrong choices.

I still don't understand why was Rumple so sure Bae was still alive. It's been like 200 hundred years, did he also predict that he'd go to Neverland?

i loved it too! he did it excellent!

I agree because in the Disney version the crocodile takes hooks hand and Hook is Peter's nemesis. I love how this show has a different way of presenting the story. Making Rumple 'The Crocodile' was a genius idea.

Neal has every right to be pissed at his Dad after everything he put him through. Rumple was a stupid idiot to think Neal would just forgive him and hug him.

@soixsantes

5 ай бұрын

Exactly you are right, rumple has betrayed the promise that he has done at neal, And that's why he doesn't trust him anymore.

@jordonwood-13

5 ай бұрын

Neal can see through Rumple's excuses.

@jordonwood-13

5 ай бұрын

Neal was right that magic can't make everything that Rumple did in the past better.

@soixsantes

5 ай бұрын

@@jordonwood-13 Exactly, in fact it's rumple who needs to improve himself

@soixsantes

4 ай бұрын

@@jordonwood-13 and in the season 2 (like Regina) He tries to learn to become nice

hahha i totally understand you! but you didn't want Rumpel to say what he said or Neal? Because i was like, shut up both of you!!! Rumpel couldn't stop saying the wrong things, the wrong "solutions". And what Neal said was SO true, but watching Rumpel getting all those hits was SO heartrending!!

So much respect for Bae as a person cause of this.

Funny how rumple brings up magic when that is what came between them in the first place

Rumpel has always relied on magic. As he said, its a crutch that he can't walk without. Baelfire has always been the driving regret and and love in his life that kept something human in him which Belle could find and bring out. His offer to turn back the clock for Bael is simply his astonishingly clumsy and unworkable solution for this problem. To take everything back to how it used to be when he was still Bae's 'poppa'. So don't beat Rumpel up for it. It's the wrong idea, but he means well.

To Rumple, without magic, he’s nothing. Everyone can see that.

@jordonwood-13

5 ай бұрын

Rumple's a crappy Dad.

I love u Neal!!

That was because he already knew she was dead (in fact he thought she was dead years before her truly death). But after being abandoned by his father, find out that he has been abandoned by his mother too was too painful. Also if you watch that scene again, he yells at Hook something like "i bet YOU took her heart off". He think, or want to think, that was Hook who killed his mother, not Rumpel.

I agree! I like that scenario.

and his love cheats on him with a pirate. haahahha

It’s too bad that Baelfire never live though season 4! He would piss off at his father again,but in. Later season he forgiven!

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

you have loved baelfire you too ?

That was my favorite part.

What's the OST at the end of Baelfire's speech about not getting closure?

You did see that Bae didn't go apeshit on Rumple when he learned about Milah's death, but that instead, his first reaction was "she abandoned me" ?

one thing that was cute that I noticed in the beginning and its not just small glances around the room. But did you notice where baelfire kept looking towarrds the window it was actually cute good acting michael. It was actually pointing out where he'd much rather be. Baelfire may still care for his father but due to his issues he would much rather have his father gone and to be left alone with his newfound son and ex-girlfriend.

@WakeyWakey200 He said "Don't care. I don't get closure, so you don't either."

you can see that ruple cares about his son and it pains him to see his son scared by what he did

@soixsantes

2 жыл бұрын

baelfire/neal doesn't trust at rumple anymore after than he abandons him

Great scene

rumple deserved what he got from bae

There's a theory floating around about Bae having gone to Neverland first and he is also Peter Pan. Possibly..but one issue I have with that is, Peter Pan was the boy who didn't want to grow up. Here, Bae is incredulous and says 'I don't want to be 14 again..what? are you insane?' Doesn't sound like something Peter would say.

I think Bae is in the right totally in this scene, I would be mad at my Dad if he did that to me too, however, if I were Rumple I would turn around and say "we'll, go and practice what you preach son, go and tell emma why you abandoned her."

does anyone remember the quote from here. I don't remember it fully but it says I'd rather you hate and ..... then love me and...

He chose magic over his own son.

Rumple always uses magic as an excuse.

I noticed that right away..shades of Commedia dell'arte..like father like son...lol!

Rumple: There is no greater pain than regret. Emma: WHAT ABOUT CHILDBIRTH YOU LITTLE SHI-

I don't get why everyone hates Neal. If anyone was in his position, they would leave someone who abandoned them.

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

you loved neal you too ?

@andrewkomaniecki480

4 жыл бұрын

@@soixsantes I wished they could have developed his character more and yes, I liked him as well

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewkomaniecki480 and you have loved his relationship with emma too?

@JavertRA

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewkomaniecki480 I never hated him. I ended up liking the Captain Swan relationship but wish it didn't have to come at the expense of Neal/Bae dying

The writers really screwed Rumple up. Why couldn't they have just made him say the same thing he said to August when he thought he was Baelfire?! D:

Zeina 👑👍

"but bae" lol

"I can turn you 14 again" Hahahaha! Oh Rumple