Baelfire and Neal being the same person was one of the most satisfying reveals in TV history.

"You left me and let me go to prison because Pinocchio told you to?" Morrison's delivery of this line was really good 👏🏻

@evy1073

6 жыл бұрын

Mun craft I know right❤️ they are so good

@DetectiveJulie

5 жыл бұрын

Pinocchio pretty much ruined Emma's life!

@Natalie404.

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr worst excuse ever, l'm surprised she diden't punch him 🤣

@LordofFullmetal

4 жыл бұрын

It kinda bothers me that she uses the word "prison". She wouldn't have actually gone to prison. Her sentence was eleven months - you don't go to prison for that sentence. Prison sentences start at a year and a day, anything under that is jail (which is different).

@thalassajones5500

3 жыл бұрын

@@LordofFullmetal saying prison made it more upsetting and made it more real. And she does say she went to jail

Imagine you’re a bar patron and you overhear any part of the conversation “Sweet Jesus how much did I have?”

Emma: You believe in that??? Neal: considering that I have been to neverland, met captain hook, am about 300 years old, have a dad who is immortal and can't be killed and has awesome magical powers, fell through a magical portal that led me to another world.... yes, yes i do.

@LordofFullmetal

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Fate's not THAT much of a stretch at that point.

@duckysguidetoshipping8930

Жыл бұрын

Nine years ago wow you still active and like Ouat?

@jareththegoblinking3191

9 ай бұрын

Maybe those Greek spinstresses are real too

"Maybe something good came from us being together." And I think of a certain browned haired boy by the name of Henry.

@annaoffive

8 жыл бұрын

+Smack6036 Emma clearly did too. You can tell by her expression and the way she says "nothing that I can think of." cause clearly her first thought was "Henry"

@user-vo7lt2le4c

6 жыл бұрын

She didn't want Neal to know about him lol

@ThePinkDragon

5 жыл бұрын

she should've told him about Henry then

@enigmashadowman8821

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePinkDragon See it from her perspective though. This guy abandoned her, leaving her to take the fall for his crimes without so much as a goodbye. He left her with nothing but a car and a baby that she had to give birth to while handcuffed to a hospital bed and she was forced to give him up because she knew she couldn't give him the life he deserved on her own. Everything she did, everything that defined her as a person, including the amplification of the trust issues she developed from being in foster care all of her life, happened because he abandoned her. Tell me, if that was you, would you want to let him be a part of Henry's life after he evaporated into thin air, never to be seen again, all because he was afraid of the real her that she didn't even know about? He could've helped her find her family by telling her where to start and instead he kept it secret from her and disappeared without a trace. He kept a secret from her first. At that point in the story, he didn't deserve to be trusted.

@lauraschoenborn3544

5 жыл бұрын

Neal: "Maybe something good came of it." Me: Oh something good did come of it. Emma's eyes widen obviously debating whether or not to tell him: "I just went to jail and thats it" Me: And had a baby. Emma: "Come on I made a deal with your father that i would get you to talk to him" Me: "And how exactly did you plan on keeping Henry away from Neal if you had to get Rumple to talk to Neal, Flawed logic because Rumple is not going to give up on seeing Bae. So Henry and Neal are going to meet."

I am just so blown away by how GOOD Morrison's acting is in this scene! Not trying to knock her on the rest of the show, but she is just so natural here. Maybe because the dialogue feels so organic, so real and she is channeling the damaged, pre-Storybrooke version of Emma Swan that lived life as an orphan and betrayed by the man she has to face once again in Neal. When I re-watch this scene versus so many others, it doesn't even feel like the same show at times. The writing, acting, the everything in this episode was just so Emmy-worthy!

@user-vo7lt2le4c

6 жыл бұрын

drlee2 Ikr

@kethcup

5 жыл бұрын

Her acting was never the problem. It was the show runners, and the writing. Just completely fell to shit at the end of season 2, sort of redeemed season 3. Then they just flushed every thing down the toilet. lol

@drlee2

5 жыл бұрын

@@kethcup Yes, I recall think that the first 3/4 of Season 2 was great, then the last few episodes fell off a cliff. Once the writers started doing the half-season arcs, which was hit or miss. I remember both 3A and 4A being good, but 3B and 4B being awful. I think Season 5 broke the trend because 5B was better than 5A. The show just lost it's way after Season 2, though. Just bring in all kinds of random one-off characters and do absolutely nothing with them.

@xmant8842

10 ай бұрын

​@kethcup I'm years late to this, but I remember thinking the writing was getting pretty bad. I'm recently rewatching, but from what I remember, I started being like "okay this is pretty stupid" the moment they brought Anna and Elsa into the story(I forget when that happened). After that, I was pretty much just watching the show for Emma, Regina, rumple, and hook

I will never forgive the writers killing off baelfire 😭💔

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

you have loved baelfire you too ?

@queenrebecca8951

2 жыл бұрын

Yes , I hated they killed him off 😢

@kiamaria331

2 жыл бұрын

It was such a cheap and easy way to pave the road for Captain Swan.

@charliebrown4347

Жыл бұрын

Forget bealfires character lol

@Unversed333

Жыл бұрын

especially since it pushed Rumple further down a darker path.

Maybe it was fate. "You believe in that?!" says the woman who's parents are Prince Charming and Snow White.

"Maybe something good came from us being together." "Nope, nothing that I can think of.." Damn Henry, your mom just demoted you to 'nothing good'.

@katiemcleod5534

4 жыл бұрын

Shiirow she just didn’t want Neal to know about him

@EmptyMan000

4 жыл бұрын

Still an insensitive and spiteful thing to say.

@imjustyouraveragegirlfromb956

3 жыл бұрын

Shiirow Henry was annoying anyway

@raniaahsan10

3 жыл бұрын

oop-

@sdm47

3 жыл бұрын

@@imjustyouraveragegirlfromb956 If by annoying you mean one of the best characters

I do see Neal's side of things. He was trying to fix his father's mess, since Rumple helped Regina set the curse. He wanted Emma to reunite with her family. Yes, it hurt her, but in the end, he did the right thing. Not that I don't see Emma's side as well, I definitely do.

@jasminkrieger8228

3 жыл бұрын

That wasnt something she wanted she wanted him in Her life to stay for Henry later shes with hook

@jasminkrieger8228

3 жыл бұрын

He never got it through neals loss on long run

@maggierappa417

3 жыл бұрын

I see his side too. It’s not so much he left her because she was from the same world, I think if that was it he would have stayed. But it was the curse and the destiny to break it that led him to leave. He understood the destiny and understood what it meant because he was from there. And I believe, had Tamara not had the plan to “fall in love” with Neal, he would have gone to storybrooke after getting the postcard.

@LilyRose8959

2 жыл бұрын

Rumple didn't have any interest in cursing anyone til after Bae disappeared through the portal. That's why Rumple wanted it done, he wanted to go where Bae was and find him. But he needed Emma to break it first and then find a way to leave town without losing his memories.

@kennymcelroy

Жыл бұрын

@@LilyRose8959and that’s the key component. Rumple set this plan into motion, he knew Emma would break the curse. Fate was on his side cause Emma the one to break the curse had already found his son way before.

The line about Pinocchio still cracks me up. I never thought about it like that until she said it. It's so funny! LOL!

It’s kinda scary to think about everyone Emma really had a close connection with before she went to storybrook was from the enchanted Forrest. Lily maleficent daughter, Neil is Baelfire, august is Pinocchio, Sarah is Ingrid, Merlin showed up in the theater that one time like no matter what even if Henry was never born Emma couldn’t stop her destiny

Jennifer Morrison deserves all the awards. I watch this scene over and over again, and it breaks my heart every time again how she says "how?" trying not to cry, trying to keep her walls up in front of the guy who left her. JMo is a damn good actress... and this scene is still as heart-breaking as it was 3 months ago.

@my-edits

Жыл бұрын

Ummmmmm now it's 10 years 😊

Michael Raymond-James was so good in this episode. Loved the way he looks at Emma throughout. He still loves her.

Out of context, they sound so insane! "because Pinocchio told you to?"

@laurakish4707

3 жыл бұрын

The guy is a known liar… 🤥

Lads I'm looking at this 10 years later and then I see comments form like 9 six years ago wow I still love this scene

@soixsantes

Жыл бұрын

you have loved what in this scene ?

@my-edits

Жыл бұрын

@@soixsantes just the acting the way it feels watching it so real so brilliant

@soixsantes

Жыл бұрын

@@my-edits just for know, is than you have loved emma and neal ?

@my-edits

Жыл бұрын

@soixsantes I prefer hook and Emma but I loved the acting my the actors and the lines

@soixsantes

Жыл бұрын

@@my-edits ok

This is right after Emma got off the phone with her mother, It is so sweet the way she is gripping the phone as if clinging to her mothers advice.

I'm a Captain Swan shipper, and I never really took to Neal in the short time that we had with him, but I honestly was so upset when they killed him off. I feel like he should have stayed alive for Henry because I really liked their dad/son relationship. I didn't really have enough time to REALLY like Neal because I feel like we didn't get much time with him. I'm not going to bash Neal-I'm not going to bash anybody-but I feel like it would have been cool to see Emma and Neal develop a friendship and raise their son together. Keep in mind: before Neal and before Killian, there was just Emma. There was a character named Emma Swan who was badass without a man and who wasn't in a love triangle that had Swanfire shippers or Captain Swan shippers getting into internet fights over which side was better. There was Emma and Henry and a single message that the show provided-hope, not romance. I'm for Captain Swan, but I'm for Emma Swan's happiness even more.

@ewwhoisshe

4 жыл бұрын

Yes👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@sassypants7536

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I've been rewatching from the start, and I actually empathise more with Neal/Bae this time around. You can see how leaving Emma hurt him and how he wants to make it right. He did what he did because he was protecting her. Neal had seen what magic did to his family and believed in seeing the future, and so believed in what August was saying. Still, August was the real asshole here.

@maggierappa417

3 жыл бұрын

Emma and Neal were never meant to be IMO. But it felt so cheap to make a love triangle and then kill Neal. It almost felt like the writers thought Neal needed to die in order for Hook and Emma to really be together, which sucks. I agree it would have been so amazing to see Neal be around with Henry and watch him grow up. Especially since he didn’t really get time with him. A few days in New York them back in storybrooke only for them to be separated in neverland and then again when Neal went back to the enchanted forest only to come back and Henry doesn’t remember him. That sucks. I also think it would have been funny to see Neal, Emma and Regina like triple co parent Henry.

When emma said that nothing good came out of their relationship I was like, "uh, Henry for starters?"

@saramikos5036

9 жыл бұрын

MartialArtsCat101 She was lying because she wanted to make him feel bad and not find out about Henry.

@MartialArtsCat101

9 жыл бұрын

Julian Jane That's so true, he didn't realise he had a son at that point. Touché.

@DJ-wr1uo

5 жыл бұрын

It was to keep Neal from finding out about him

Personally I would blame Pinocchio/August more than Baelfire/Neal.

@angien306

5 жыл бұрын

Julie McIntyre just out of curiosity, why? I mean it was still up to Neal whether to leave or to stay. The main reason why he bolted on Emma so quickly was because he was running from his father. Sure, he also partly left her because of the whole destiny she had with breaking the curse, but he knew that once she got thrown into that world, that once she was in that same town as his father in order to break the curse, that eventually if he stayed his father would find him. It was more about Neal being a coward and running from his father. Which is exactly what he said to Emma here. Saying if he knew who she really was from the very beginning, he never would’ve gone near her to begin with. He wanted nothing to do with his father OR anything to do with anyone from that. All August did was give Neal the option to leave. Neal could’ve stayed with Emma, and tried to figure out a way to not be detected by his father, but he quickly chose to bolt on her and on everything. It’s not really August’s fault that Neal left the way he did.

@ArdenBijou

5 жыл бұрын

angien306 eh but he left her all alone as a kid when he was supposed to watch her and make sure she went back. Literally all the hell she faced in foster care didn’t have to happen if August did what he was supposed to do and stay with her. Even if the family still sent her back, they would have been together.

@maheryand8894

8 ай бұрын

​@@angien306 I don't agree, that would fly against how Baelfire had been portrayed so far. He was shown to be someone who could see the best in someone (e.g. his father, initially), actively trying to protect innocents from bad people and find solutions, and generally far from being a coward. And he was also shown as someone who loved Emma enough to stick with her against his father (which he actually did in that very episode). Maybe if he had known from the beginning he would have avoided her, but by the time August had come it was too late, he was in too deep to just leave her unless he'd think it'd help her. Ultimately he left because Pinocchio strongly hinted/managed to convince him that leaving Emma alone to go back to Storybrooke on her own to break the curse was her best chance for the future, and to save her family (instead of being an abandonned child with all the trauma like him), which is why he left her, giving her everything he had to at least soften the blow and help her as much as he could now that he couldn't be with her anymore (which August pocketed ofc). Pinocchio completely failed, he kept making things worse for everyone generally and this is exactly why he reverted to being a wooden doll. Best he could hope for to atone was to rewind the clock because that's how much he screwed up.

2:22 she is thinking of Henry

That moment when 'Henry' pops into her mind...

Can we take a minute for the amazing line. “ to remind myself to never trust me again?” My reaction- damb em you go

Am I the only one who's still bothered by what ended up being in the box? I mean, episode after episode they basically hyped it up. What's in the box? what is it? what made Neal change his minds? What's in it tell me?...And then, bam. It's just his typewriter saying "I know you're baefire"... I mean come on? it couldn't have been something else? like something from his childhood?

@xCanYouFeelTheLovex

7 жыл бұрын

I mean, it was probably the easiest thing. No one else would possibly know he was Bae unless they were from that time. Anything else could've been random.

@gerardburns3062

6 жыл бұрын

Sure we all knew his box was a typewriter from season 1 anyways

@dandelion1469

6 жыл бұрын

im still wondering how august found out neal was rumples son and what his name was its not like rumple went around the magical forest announcing that he had a child and that he gave regina that curse just so he could get back to his son I mean baelfire was separated from him before Pinocchio had even been born

@quinnsinclair7028

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but August could easily have just said “I know you're Baelfire.” He didn’t because the audience wasn’t supposed to know yet and the only way for them to convey it to the character but not the audience was though a visual that the audience couldn't see. Characters doing things that don’t make sense for the sake of the audience is never a good thing. I always thought it was a sketch of The Dark One Dagger.

@lauraschoenborn3544

4 жыл бұрын

Quinn Sinclair thinking about it, it made sense that the one thing that could change Neal’s mind was telling him his real name. The dark one dagger is probably in every fairytale book in the real world that drawing that would not be that shocking. Either way what would be more shocking, a stranger showing you a sketch of a sword that happens to look like the one your father has, or the same stranger calling you by your real name that you have given up, a name you never even told your girlfriend but a complete stranger who you never met called you by that name. Neal’s reaction in that moment is spot on. He’s like how do you know that. A sketch of the dagger he could have easily gotten from a. Fairytale book, but not his real name. No Fairytale book in this world says anything about Rumple having a son named Baelfire.

August Booth. The man who causes all stuff to happen.

I think I read it on Twitter. Either it was an interview with Jennifer Morrison or in a press release for an upcoming episode..I can't remember which one. Anyway, it was said that Emma would not ask Neal to be in her life romantically, but wanted Henry to know his Father. It's in this conversation, that the engagement is revealed. I think 'Tamara'(new character) may be his fiancée.

"You made a deal with him? Emma you don't have to do that, tell him you lost me." What I hate about that, is he *knows* what happenes to people who break deals with his father.... (in this scene) if he really cared for her he wouldn't have said to break the deal. (Yes, I know he did follow up to seal the deal, but still)

@soixsantes

6 жыл бұрын

just to say, I think he knows his father better than everyone else

@soixsantes

6 жыл бұрын

and also he is the first to have seen his father in his beginnings of dark one

@Christ2010Grad

6 жыл бұрын

I think that’s why he barged into his apartment when he hears his dad scream,”No one breaks deals with me.”

@soixsantes

6 жыл бұрын

and besides, rumple had broken the agreement he had with his son when he wanted to go with him to another world

@Natalie404.

4 жыл бұрын

I know thats one of the things that bugged me about Neal, he was so desperate to avoid his father. He threw Emma under the bus the first time, then almost did it again now, when he asks her to lie to his father.😫

You can tell their filming in Canada... There's hockey on the tv

@saramikos5036

10 жыл бұрын

People in New York can watch hockey on TVs.

@LivingLife233

10 жыл бұрын

Julian Jane it was meant as a joke... of course they can!

i also keep remembering how it was neal who asked her to settle down...he only ran away cuz he freaked when he found out who she was...melodramatic in the greatest way ever!

what's cute is they both still have the things they gave each neal the dream catcher emma the necklace I think that when august told him to move he was doing just that but he's still in love with her she is to but right now it's an emotional blow I understand her not getting back together now but give it time maybe next season it will hit

Great scene. One of my favorite episodes.

When Emma says she's over it and him it's obvious it's a LIE if she was over him and what happened, she wouldn't have brought it up. She brought it up because of two likely reasons 1.) She needs to understand what happened, because she still has questions, and thinks about it a lot consciously or unconsciously. 2.) She wants to know that it hurt him to do that to her, and she needs closure but can't find it on her own because she's still pining away for him.

I just want to point out as well that Emma gave birth to Henry in jail - and giving birth in jail, from what I have heard, is really traumatic. They chain you to a bed in the hospital so you don't run (which they're actually not allowed to do; but they do it anyway), you often have to wait ages with no painkillers during labour before anyone will take notice of you, etc. I heard a story from one woman who had to wait for shift change while in labour, because the guard on duty didn't want to deal with it. There was another story where a woman just gave birth alone in her cell because no one would help her. Oh also, giving him up for adoption might not have been a choice - because you don't get to take your baby in with you most of the time. If you're lucky, you have to get family to care for the child. Emma had no family, which means she may have been forced to give him up. That's a thing - if you don't have anyone to care for the baby, and you don't get lucky with one of the prisons/jails that does let you bring the baby back inside, the baby automatically goes into the system. Emma probably adopted him out to avoid THAT, having been someone who also grew up in the system. So she has even more reason to be upset with him than the show addresses.

@mckayleem3098

3 жыл бұрын

About the second part, Emma’s time in prison was pretty much up so there were likely alternatives. But either way, I don’t think she thought she was capable of raising him well, prison or not.

@LordofFullmetal

3 жыл бұрын

@@mckayleem3098 You don't automatically get custody as soon as you're out. Giving birth in prison causes enough concern in most places that you have to go through CPS to get your kid back. They don't just hand the baby over to you. The woman who had to wait for a shift change? She was told repeatedly that she would NEVER be given custody; that she was losing her child forever. That didn't end up being true, but it's what she was led to believe. With that in mind, it doesn't really matter how much time Emma had left on her sentence. The options available to her were adopting her child out, or letting him end up in foster care for god knows how long. The "alternative" you mentioned? That's it - foster care. That's the alternative. You really overestimate the number of choices a US woman who gives birth in jail has - they're often not even given basic health care that they're legally entitled to; they're certainly not given many choices on what happens to their kid. I know that Emma also had issues with not feeling like she could be a good parent. I'm just pointing out that, in the situation she was in, she also really didn't have much of a choice.

Emma has the right to be mad

This is just one of my all-time favourite episodes

August was incredibly selfish anyway. If they had to break up fine. but didn’t have to send Emma to jail though and steal her money. If it was seriously a thing where Emma had to break the curse. Break it off and leave don’t call the cops and bounce. Gave me confused feelings about Neal

Emma was really hurt and I think it hurt so badly bc she still in some way cared about him. She might’ve even loved the idea of him but still, that counts for something right because when your idea of someone is ruined, everything hurts. Jeniffer Morrison executed and delivered this perfectly I think.

@lauraschoenborn3544

2 жыл бұрын

Emma admitted in season 3 that she still loved Neal and never stopped loving him. She said she knew the instant she tackled him in NY.

@alexiciamoore5642

2 жыл бұрын

@@lauraschoenborn3544 I remember.

"Maybe something good came out of it" We all know who that is

@soixsantes

6 жыл бұрын

yes henry

@Riskofrain527

6 жыл бұрын

Garrett Stephens black jesus

“Call it fate, call it destiny” Call it the Author?

As a person who believes in the power of fate. From what I've seen throughout the show, fate plays an important role in the lives of these characters.. So, it's seemed like fate took a surprising turn for Emma.. She wasn't expecting fate to be so cruel... Why him? But maybe it seems that fate was giving Henry waht he always needed... Always questioned about.. Neal had spent most of his life trying to get his father back. To bring the man who was good, who was kind back into his life but as his father grew more obsessed with power, he only saw the dark side of it.. Only trapped in a word of dark magic instead of light.. Probably because all his other family members have turned to dark magic. Pan, Fiona, Rumple..it probably runs in the family.. How this fear of rejection, of the future, of losing everything we have can lead them making the terrible of decisions.. In a way Pan, Rumple and even Neal abandoned their love ones, a child.. This scene shows just how much this trust between them has broken. Neal failed to overcome his fear. His struggle between magic and how it affects him. And yet he wants a future with her but after the years of pain, mistrust and broken emotions... This is not the time for this. She placed her ways that he can't break... As for August.. He was selfish.. But in a world that you don't know at a young age, the world is filled with temptations.. Bad temptations.. So couldn't resist. He was a child.. And it became a habit. That why he turned back into wood.. He thought by setting Emma back on the right path he was going to get out of his situation but he it didn't.. He has finally forgiven himself. And has learnt to be forgive from others.. Plus, maybe fate had other plans for Neal. His relationship with his father, to me was more important than his relationship with Emma. Fate only gave Emma to Neal so he could finally face his father after all these years of pain and hate.. Emma was just that reason..

The reason they met was so that Henry would be born. The seer told Rumble a boy would lead him to his son....Henry did when he travled with his mom and Rumple

Some of the best actors are on Television right now

I was about to say, “um you don’t think Henry is a good thing to come from your relationship?” Then I remembered that he didn’t know he existed yet and she didn’t want him to know.

Am I the only one who's curious about how August knew that Neil was Baelfire or how he knew that Rumpelstiltskin even had a son? I hope the show explains how and it eventually turns him back into a man. As for Emma and Neal, I'm not sure I want them to be endgame, but I'd rather see them end up together in the end of the show, than her and hook.

@iRazenrak

8 жыл бұрын

The Blue Fairy told him before she sent him and Emma away.

@saramikos5036

8 жыл бұрын

iRazenrak I doubt that's it. At first, the plan was for Snow to go into the wardrobe with Pinocchio and then give birth to Emma. Emma came early and the fairy urged Gepetto to not send Pinocchio though, but he did anyway.

@iRazenrak

8 жыл бұрын

Once he made his decision though, the Blue Fairy told Pinocchio the truth about Rumplestiltskin and the existence of Baelfire in that world. How he found Neal and knew it was him, I do not know.

@saramikos5036

8 жыл бұрын

iRazenrak I guess it's a possibility that the Blue Fairy told Pinocchio of other fairy tale characters in that world, but how he found Neal is a mystery as well as whether or not he knew that Emma was pregnant with Henry and how he found out if he knew.

@iRazenrak

8 жыл бұрын

Well, the fact that the Blue Fairy knew about a Land Without Magic at all is a major factor. Obviously, she can't travel between worlds, but she can probably look between them. For all we know, she was keeping an eye on Baelfire while he was in a Land Without Magic because he was the Dark One's weakness, so it's possible she showed Pinocchio a photo of him or something. She might've wanted for Pinocchio and Emma to one day meet Baelfire so the 3 of them could unite and break the curse in Storybrooke and with Baelfire on the side of good, defeat Rumplestiltskin. I know it's a stretch, but still, that's all I can think of.

Couldn't just Neal have broken up with Emma instead of sending her to prison

Neal: You know there's not much I remember about my father that doesn't suck. Boy, your father loved you. He broke his leg so you wouldn't be without a father, he became the dark one so you wouldn't be forced to fight and after he made the mistake of letting you go he spent every moment trying to get to you and you can't even bring yourself to remember the man he was before he was corrupted by power. All those years he devoted his life for you. He may have let you go that one time but that has been his biggest regret for his whole life and I will fight anyone that has the nerve to say Rumpletilskin is not a loving father.

@soixsantes

3 жыл бұрын

exactly you are right, baelfire is what than rumple loves the most in his life

emma calling her mamma after this is precious shows how close theve become

Without Henry the story never would’ve gone anywhere

I think it's only a matter of time and Swan-Thief will reunite. I like their chemistry...Emma & Neal are a lot fun to watch! I enjoy the funny banter between them.

@Riskofrain527

6 жыл бұрын

soozeeq2 he's dead now bitch

"You left me & you let me go to prison because Pinnoccio told you too". LOL :)

at 2;24 he has the look of hope in his eyes. he loves her you can totally tell and when he asks about the keychain damn fiance of his neal get rid of her

He didn't leave cause he wanted to, he wanted to stay with her but her fate got in the way, but i think that if he had known that Emma was pregnat then things might have been different, but if he hadn't left her then she probably wouldn't have found her parents

@SarahMcNabb16

9 жыл бұрын

yeah exactly☺️

@iRazenrak

8 жыл бұрын

Why couldn't he have gone with her to Storybrooke? Was he more afraid of finding his dad than staying with Emma?

@angien306

8 жыл бұрын

+MsFriendsfan4ever He kind of didn't want to leave her, but he sure as hell didn't want to stay either. He knew that with her breaking the curse, his father would be there. And that's exactly who he was trying so hard to stay away from. Yes, he decided it was best for him to leave, because he knew it was her destiny to break the curse, but he also decided it was best to leave because if he stayed he would've ran into his father, and that was the last thing he ever wanted. He even told Emma "If I knew I would have never gone near you, I was in hiding..."

@Diana45251

7 жыл бұрын

MsFriendsfan4ever Thad true they wrote the story pretty good

@DJ-wr1uo

5 жыл бұрын

He could have brought her to StoryBrooke on her 28th birthday

You know...I'm a confirmed Rumbellers and they are my number 1 ship, but I have to say that I'm REALLY liking Neal and Emma! They are funny and heartbreaking at the same time. I loved how Neal said, 'No the bar is better, but don't worry, you can keep yelling at me when we get there!' Since this episode I have become a Swan-Thief shipper as well.

Okay, this has been bothering me since forever. They all act like Neal leaving Emma set her back on the path to being the saviour. I mean, what, she couldn't break the curse if she was happy and had a family?????

@allydawson4023

9 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts

@alexeil15

9 жыл бұрын

She wouldn't have had a reason to break the curse if she and Neal stayed together. His leaving = her getting arrested = her having Henry in prison = her giving Henry up for adoption = Henry being adopted by Regina and growing up in Storybrooke = Henry tracking Emma down and dragging her to Storybrooke to break the curse. If she and Neal stayed together, they mostly like would have kept Henry and she wouldn't have a reason to go to Storybrooke and break the curse. I think that once the curse was broken and she found Neal again, the writers should have let her be happy though. I miss Neal

@tsyganko

9 жыл бұрын

No, but my point is, that Emma would have ended up breaking the curse anyways. It's her destiny to be the Saviour, so she will always end up being the Saviour. If she had had Neal with her the whole time (who knows magic and the Curse are real), Henry (who wouldn't take much convincing to believe that fairy tales are true), and a happy life, it might've actually taken *less* time for her to believe the curse was real. Get my point? :)

@alexeil15

9 жыл бұрын

tsyganko that's true

@mari-khaleesi

9 жыл бұрын

tsyganko I might be biased because I was never a fan of Swanfire, but I feel like they would have lived far away if that was the case (making it hard for Henry to ever track them down if they ever gave him up for adoption; not saying that would be more probable idk they were young). I used to think that way as well asking myself "Why on Earth would he think it would be in her best interest to separate under brutal circumstances (betrayal), leaving her heart broken for years and miserable thinking she would be closer to breaking the curse that way?" I mean he knew the truth, he could have influenced her. On another hand, Henry was the one who brought her to Storybook. He was the key ingredient linking her. Neal wouldn't have been able to help. Maybe August knew something...I really don't know. It would be a good question to ask the writers honestly. I understand she's destined to break the curse, but maybe certain pieces had to be arranged for that to happen and August knew that. Maybe it has something to do with the writer. But what if Neal actually felt it would be in his best interest to do so accordingly? At that point he didn't know she was pregnant, and although it would make her hate him maybe he felt like he was fulfilling a purpose (also the idea of having his old life catch up to him and meeting Emma who is from a place of magic..) but also feeling free to get away? Again, they were really young.

This episode was so mind-blowing....

I totally believe destiny has plans for us that we just don’t get

Every time I see Neal, I just think of his (Michaels ) character on True Blood.. It makes it hard to trust him. Lol.

"If I had I wouldn't come near you". For me this is the proof that Neal does not truly understand Emma and how the whole thing as affected her. Emma needs a man that will stay by her side, regardless her being a savior or not. Neal is too insecure about himself.

@annaoffive

8 жыл бұрын

+flimmii07 *cough*cough*HOOK!*cough*cough*

@angien306

8 жыл бұрын

+flimmii07 I agree. Now I'm a bit of a SF fan but I prefer CS way more. I feel like Hook understand her way more than Neal did. I like how Hook pretty much understood everything about her just from her silence.

@partyguy101ify

7 жыл бұрын

It's not about being HER man; it's about being A man and realizing that Emma has more important things to do than getting involved with someone. Had Neal known about her destiny before they got serious, I would hope that he would have sent her on her way. Emma, on the other hand, needed to realize that it's not always about her. Had she not gone to Storybrooke: Regina would have been evil; forever; Snow and Charming would have been trapped in their lives as teacher and coma patient, Emma would have been alone for the rest of her life without ever meeting her parents or seeing Henry, and August would have died, per se. Besides, what else was Emma going to do with her life? She was a bondsman living alone in New York City, and she clearly did not like how her life turned out.

@angien306

7 жыл бұрын

***** I disagree. You say it's about him being "A man and realizing that Emma has more important things to do than getting involved with someone." but yet, he said it himself, he wouldn't have gone near her if he knew who she really was because of the fact that he was running from his father. "Come on what? I was in hiding, I was trying to get away from all of that." He said he wouldn't have gone near her not out of any nobility in trying to give her a better life and have her fulfil her destiny, but because he was a coward. Plain and simple. He was scared of facing his father again and knew that by being with Emma he would have to face his father, which is the LAST thing he ever wanted, which is why he told Emma he wouldn't have gone near her if he knew who she really was to begin with. It wasn't because he thought or would have thought she had "more important things to do" it was because he was coward. If he had known from the very beginning when they first met, I guarantee you he would have left her in the dust pretty much as he stated all due to the fact that he was nothing more than a coward.

@partyguy101ify

7 жыл бұрын

angien306 Considering that Rumple murdered someone just for bumping into Baelfire and staying behind abandoning Baelfire to be sucked into our world, no, Neal was not being a coward. Neal was trying to protect himself from Mr. Gold the way grown children protect themselves from alcoholic or drug-addicted parents. If you go back to when Neal and Emma first met, she was a stranger even if August told Baelfire Emma's background earlier. To me, if I have to choose between getting to know a stranger at the risk of seeing a toxic family member and running away from the total stranger to avoid said toxic family member, I would run away. I guarantee you that anyone who actually had to go through that would run away as well if nothing else was holding that person back.

Maybe they didn't let the 'thing' with Sheriff Graham go too far because they ( the creators/writers) knew Bae would be reintroduced back into the story. Jennifer Morrison has said, that she has known from the beginning who Henry's Father was...I'm sure she also knew that he would also be Baelfire. If fans had seriously started to ship Graham and Emma, that may have complicated things when they wanted to introduce Neal/Bae.

It appears that Neal is engaged, but I don't think he ever expected to bump into Emma again...now that has...it may change things. When Neal saw that she still wore the key chain he gave her, he looked hopeful that it meant she still cared for him.

Because “Pinocchio” told you to?!?!?!?!

Fate, destiny, writers, whatever you want to call it :3

August is so overdramatic with that typewriter reveal. I can't believe there were so many theories wondering what was in the box, thinking it was something like a little fairy maybe. Turns out it's a stupid typewriter paper with that message lol 😆

I remember a time when this revelation was as big a deal to me as R+L = J (which I guess also came true).

Isn’t it funny how it always happens to her, she’s always involved (Emma) lol 😂

you left me?! because Pinocchio told you?! She says that in a dramatic way that makes you wanna cry... but when I think about it, I can´t take it seriously, Pinocchio isn´t just a serious word.

Fate, destiny.....a horse?

I'm convinced that Neal is either Peter Pan or one of the lost boys after I saw the CTV preview for QID. Plus the "more years than you could know" line in this episode definetly threw me off.

yes, but what happens when he finds out that she has magic..neal is pretty adamant about not being involved with that --can't wait to see it unfold.

Now if you excuse me I must find the whole episode and make some popcorn later dearies ^.^

OMG YESS everytime i watch that part i shout HENRY!!!

At this point, Neal is still paranoid about magic. After all, it did drop him from his home to another horrible realm... twice.

This is some real heartfelt deep emotion on both sides in this scene. There is seems to be a wealth of heartfelt emotion between Neal and Emma in their interactions good and bad. That I just don't see with either Hook or Emma, I mostly see flirty lightness between those two. Nothing deep though. But who knows as the story progress how that would change.

She didn't want to tell him about Henry. For obvious reasons...

I wonder how Emma was able to get a job as a bail bondswoman if she has a criminal record? Did the police figure out Emma never stole the watches in the first place and cleared her records? I heard if people have pasts with the law then getting a job will be difficult if not impossible. Why didn’t the police try to find Neal before Emma found him again? Even if Neal had sold the stolen property would he have still been arrested for robbery in the first place?

That reveal of the typewriter was so convoluted. Why didn’t he just say “I know you're Baelfire”? Of course the reason is because the audience could hear that but a camera could be positioned so Neil sees something the audience doesn’t. It should have been a drawing of the dagger or something.

Couldn’t have been a picture of Bae with his mother or something? Or a drawing of the dark one dagger

Baelfire : " Maybe we met for a reason. Maybe something good came from us being together". Me: Yeah, your son.

Oh my god. This scene was beautiful, Emma and Neal need to get together! :D

2:15, *falls out of chair* hehehe, & he doesn't even know yet.

You let me go to prison because Pinocchio told you to 😂😂 favourite quote to date

I miss Baelfire😔 😔 😩 😫 😖

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

you have loved baelfire (neal) you too ?

@hanitamor9007

4 жыл бұрын

@@soixsantes of course I have

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

@@hanitamor9007 and you have loved his relationship with emma too ?

@hanitamor9007

4 жыл бұрын

@@soixsantes always and forever

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

@@hanitamor9007 so if you are interested, I have an alternative version for swanfire at episode 2x06

like a kid runs to her parent after getting hurt so cute

You’ll think before rumple found out that Henry was related to him and that Neal and Emma knew each other_ u think that he would of do that prick of that world glob thing and it said that Neal was in Maine but it was really Henry and he didn’t know at that time,but rumple did had some part of Neal in SB and that part of Neal was Henry AND they knew each other for 10 years. But if rumple knew that Henry was from Snow and charming daughter aka Emma, that he could of knew that there was another part of that DNA in Henry and it’s his own son aka NEAL.. but although I still LOVVVEE the show

Geez, Disney has really been taking down a lot of OUAT videos lately. But not all. So weird. I love this scene.

i call that angst and very much like snowing in season one. im guessing since neal thought breaking the curse meant emma would go back to ftl he thought there was no hope. plus new podcast has the creators confirming he still lloves her so i'm excited

Even though Neal had a good reason it was still wrong to leave a woman who you say you love to take the Fall for something that you did !

Neal getting killed off was the biggest mistake the show made.

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

you have loved neal you too ?

@drlee2

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. It really ruined the writing for Rumple and almost gave Henry no purpose anymore. As much as I despised Captain Swan, it’s completely possible for Neal to stay alive and be a father to Henry while Emma was with Hook. But I’ll always think Hook should have been written off the show instead of Neal.

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

@@drlee2 you have preferred swanfire you too ?

@jjveliz10

4 жыл бұрын

tapo jun I just think Neal offered a lot in terms of development for Emma and a Henry. Being Henry’s father would have opened up a lot of possibilities for good relationships to grow.

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

@@jjveliz10 yes, and is that you have loved her relationship with emma ?

I know a lot of people like Emma and Killian, but I was always hoping Emma and Neal would get together, up until his death.

@soixsantes

4 жыл бұрын

me too i love swanfire forever

@eloradas7207

3 жыл бұрын

@@soixsantes it a'int real 🤣🤣🤣 neal is long gone. He left her, in jail, alone. He doesn't deserve her.

Neal is my favorite character I think he should have stayed on the show longer tho at least for Henry because Henry never got to see his dad again after Regina had to destroy the curse.

To me the biggest question is how the fuck did august know about baelfire?! That was WAY before his time and honestly, as a little kid who got turned human from a wooden doll he sure does know a lot. Maybe that apprentice got to him like he sis lilu

You left me and let me go to prison because Pinocchio told you to? xD

me encantan las miradad mas cuando neal dice ( algo bueno salio de nosotros ) esperaba que le dijera de henry pero nada , bueno , igual paso que momento magico el encuentro de estos amantes

Anyone else think Pinocchio/August is at fault for what happen to Emma and Neal?

To be fair, Neal did chose to do the right thing, but he could've chosen an even better way to do it. Instead of leaving Emma to face this all alone, or keeping her from breaking the curse, which he knew had been given to Regina by his dad, he could've decided to finally face his dad and his past and go with Emma to storybrooke to break the curse. He was gonna have to face his dad eventually, I mean, the man precipitated a series of events centuries in the making just so one bad witch would use his mom's curse which he could use to hitch a ride to the realm he was sent too, it was only a matter of time before he was gonna find him.

I Love Neil! He and Emma are meant for each other!

Henry foo! Something good came from it

@soixsantes

8 ай бұрын

exactly, the love of emma and neal has gave birth to the most beautiful little boy in the series

Who else hates Neal? He just assumed Emma was still in love with him and that he was giving her her best chance. You know what her best chance is? Letting her make her own decisions and just being there for her and listening to her.

@drlee2

4 жыл бұрын

He didn’t assume. He was hoping she still loved him.

@DJ-wr1uo

3 жыл бұрын

Annie Denos I’ve been rewatching the show and noticed something, he didn’t need to let her take the fall for his crime. He could’ve just broken up with her but he didn’t.

I'd like to point out theres a hockey game playing in the background

His death was fucken depressing but Hook is a good lover too just saying