I am pretty sure they will not build a one-fits-all solution. Cargo will be send to mars ahead of time. The human transport configuration will only hold the supplies that are needed for the transfer. Also i do not expect to have a full flight control deck for all crew members. I imagine something similar in size to an airplane cockpit. Why would the system do need a lot of human interaction, if the starship is designed to fly without crew and carry cargo on its own anyway?

@nulled7888

Жыл бұрын

Agreed ;)

@BobbyJamesCote333

Жыл бұрын

This makes sense to me... 💯

@nulled7888

Жыл бұрын

Actually 2 ppl should really be enough.. or maybe even one

@keithscommunityanddomestic9513

Жыл бұрын

If something goes wrong, it's generally a good idea to have backup systems. Also they will need to be monitoring all kinds of different things on the screens and different pilots will probably have different controls.

@nulled7888

Жыл бұрын

@@keithscommunityanddomestic9513 maybe until spacex is ready for mars we already have neuralink up and running, so u can do that from all around the ship.. im just kiddin obv, but still fun to think about

I was under the impression that the supply ships would be sent first, so the starship carrying the astronauts would not need everything for the full 5-year mission. Just for the journey to get them to Mars lightening the load.

@trygswyrmwoodside3229

Жыл бұрын

And even after that, when they are sending multiple ships per window, entire ships can be supply ships that are unmanned.

@danielbuggie591

Жыл бұрын

That's the plan. Especially since the expectation is it would need to generate fuel on Mars to get back to Earth, there is no way they'd send people that way unless they were sure they could top off the tanks to get home.

@worldcomicsreview354

Жыл бұрын

unmanned supply ships landing first and sending back telemetry will also be good data so the manned landing goes perfectly

@trygswyrmwoodside3229

Жыл бұрын

@@worldcomicsreview354 Yes. I think some people don't understand the 2 year transfer window thing, and it's throwing them off. There's going to be many starships in orbit, and they are all going to go at once every 2 years. Less than half will be manned I would assume.

@stellaoh9217

Жыл бұрын

You were under the impression Musk is actually going to Mars? LOL. Sucker....

The best solution, as was mentioned, is to have unmanned construction machines go to Mars, have them build a base, preferably carved inside a rock cliff of a lava tube, and have multiple ships, each carrying a small number of people. Also, an amazing amount of materials could be gotten in-situ on Mars, oxygen, carbon dioxide, etc., and water could be made from those, assuming lots and lots of frozen water doesn't already exist there

This was fantastic. It is exactly the sort of info a sci-fi writer wants to have.

@human_shaped

Жыл бұрын

Fiction, indeed.

@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.... not going to happen

@psdaengr911

Жыл бұрын

You need more imagination than this video based in fact and evolving reality to be a good "hard" sci-fi writer today.

@NaturallyFitNow82

Жыл бұрын

Because it's still Sci fi. Wake up.

@holgi3115

Жыл бұрын

@@NaturallyFitNow82 Wake up there's not much time left to wait)

You can reclaim oxygen, recovering 75% of it, and reduce the O2 requirements by several factors. Also, you can achieve over 90% water reclemation reducing the water requirements by 8-10x. this reduces the consuables of O2 to just 250gms / day / person, and water to less then a liter / day / person. even with a water budjet of 20L / day, 1 cubic meter of water / person would be enough water for 18months. 1 cubic meter of liquid O2 would be enough for 1 person for 12 years. The rest of your numbers seem to be close to the mark, and the production quality is realy spot on! good work

@ReveredDead

Жыл бұрын

You hit it on the nail. Only big issue will be food, power and fuel use.

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Жыл бұрын

It's like nobody knows this has been under study since 1970.

@LordMoriancumer

Жыл бұрын

@@ReveredDead I don't see power as an issue, with a few kilopower reactors from NASA or a small 1MW SMR can easily fit within the mass savings from O2 and Water recycling.

@ReveredDead

Жыл бұрын

@@LordMoriancumer True enough and thus the fuel tank itself can be smaller as the only fuel needed will be to achieve escape velocity, corrective maneuvers, entry burn and landing. The remaining power could be from the reactors for the 6-7 month trip. Lift off from Mars is another topic but Mars atmosphere is thinner so they could make escape velocity on far less fuel. Smaller fuel tank means more cargo space and more living quarters for more people. Nuclear really is the way to go like you said.

@ReveredDead

Жыл бұрын

@@RideAcrossTheRiver You'd think after so long we would have this down. However up until private industry got a hold of the space industry. The industry was stagnant. The "magic" was gone after Apollo. Glad to see it's being revolutionized. SpaceX isn't bound by government budgets, committees and politics. It's why Musk keeps SpaceX private and not public cause he does not want investors or external interests interfering.

One small thing I noticed- the chairs on the flight deck are oriented poorly for bellyflop reentry.

@AdrieKooijman

Жыл бұрын

The ship will probably reconfigure itself. 🙄

@veergauba

Жыл бұрын

Bellyflop won't be possible with any system like this. Imagine all those tons of water sloshing around...

@psdaengr911

Жыл бұрын

@@veergauba Water won't be carried down o earth and belly flop landings aren't feasible for a Mars landing.

Perhaps someone else has pointed this out: this is not Starship 2.0 that you are discussing; it is Starship version 1.0. Starship 2.0 is only a concept on paper. 2.0 will have double the height of version 1.0 and double the width to 18 meters (roughly 60 feet in diameter). It’s carrying capacity will be roughly 9x that of version 1.0. And there’s no way the development of Starship 2.0 will seriously start within the next 5 years. Otherwise, I agree with most of what you state about using starship (now 1.0) on a trip to Mars. However, there are known work arounds to some of the problems you mention, including unmanned robotic cargo missions to go to Mars ahead of time to set up a base for Astronauts to later arrive. 14 crew members on first trip to Mars sounds about right. But as the base is established and quirks are worked thru and fixed. The number of people on Starship can drastically be increased (not nearly as much as Elon would lead us to believe).

Very happy to see someone else doing this. However that said, I'd like to give some constructive criticism. (1) Don't do zero-G all the way to Mars--at a minimum connect two starships by the nose and rotate; (2) Don't need that much exercise equipment--they will share; (3) The flight deck could be reconfigurable for multiple uses--I suggest a classroom, lots to study en route; (4) Forget dehydrated food--use MREs + hydroponics; 1 MRE is 3-4K calories so one per person per day; (5) Obviously, you are going to recycle air and water--Mars has at least 1 liters of water ice per 1 cubic meter of regolith; (6) 600 grams of algae can exchange enough CO2 to Oxygen for an average adult, it can also clean ammonia and metals, a moss wall can do similar but directly from air as where algae will require spraying through air to capture it in water; (7) I don't think its going to need nearly as much electricity as the ISS, unless it's conducting numerous experiments and such; (8) water and plastics are great radiation insulators, yes. Also, foam the plastic and use as insulation. I suggest PVC, which will give similar radiation shielding and better insulation. Metals help block radiation but release secondary particles even more dangerous. That said, the plastic and water will block it.

I was thinking, "They're going to need nuclear power", all the way through the second half of the video. Hydrogen cells, solar and batteries are never going to work on such a lengthy mission. Over time, hydrogen leaks through of all known materials. I would be very nervous about hydrogen tanks that were meant to last five years, or even six months, without serious leakage problems. With nuclear, there will enough power to spare to split CO² back into carbon and oxygen. This means far less oxygen will need to be transported since it can be recycled from CO². With sufficient energy available, water can also be split into hydrogen and oxygen. In this scenario, the hydrogen doesn't need to be stored for long periods, minimising the leakage losses. Recycling everything combined with utilisation of resources found on Mars will be the key to manned journeys to Mars.

@VitVoz

Жыл бұрын

The downside is the weight of nuclear reactors though

@JohnnyWednesday

Жыл бұрын

@@VitVoz - check out NASA's "kilopower" reactor

@A_piece_of_broccoli

Жыл бұрын

@@Freja_Solstheim those are micro reactors and do not provide anywhere near enough power for an entire space ship. a probe yes, a space ship that utilizes over a thousand times as much energy? nope. there is no nuclear power station light enough to provide enough energy that can be added to the ship, period.

@freedomhq4075

Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen can be contained entirely in graphene I heard

@error200http

Жыл бұрын

Submarines are nuclear already kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqeBzpiYnba5kZs.html

You also have to consider the EVA suits of each astronaut, if you plan on them going outside on Mars

@ispartacus1337

Жыл бұрын

Probably wont be necessary to go outside. A modern drone would be sufficient for just about anything that could happen on the outside of the life supporting areas.

@karspostema2762

Жыл бұрын

@@ispartacus1337 people need to go outside tho, touch grass, be alive! Although, there is not much grass on Mars

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

@@ispartacus1337 Why send humans to mars if they're not going outside?

@ispartacus1337

Жыл бұрын

@@karspostema2762 then those people shouldn't go to mars... there is no grass and there is no "alive" outside. They're going there to survive. Survival depends on keeping the outside OUT

@ispartacus1337

Жыл бұрын

@@darrennew8211 Because everything outside is literally trying to kill you. The rocks, the sand, the wind, the weather literally everything not inside your small capsule you'll be living in is a potential death sentence. There is no hospital. The question is why WOULD you go outside?? Theres literally nothing out there. Everything in that type of environment is a risk vs reward situation. Except for the sheer amazement of walking on Mars it affords no beneficial purpose on the contrary it's dangerous everytime they open the door because there is NOTHING out there.

Nuclear power for the win. Thanks for making this, I love it when airy speculation gets broken down into details that make sense.

As a 3d and Render Artist I´m thrilled by this dramatic illumination. Man, good job!

Hey brother love your videos and I'm always excited every time I see a notification from you. Thank you for all you do and you keep making these videos and I'll keep watching!!!!

That was absolutely fascinating to watch!

@tonywilson4713

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to all but, this is disgraceful idiocy masquerading as engineering and scientific fact. FYI - I am an aerospace engineer and I'd love it if we had a spaceship that could go between the earth and the moon or Earth and Mars, *BUT this is NOT THAT.* This is idiotic science fiction masquerading as scientific fact. Point 1) There is no space to waste on any space craft - period. Go look at any of the footage from the ISS, Space Shuttle, Soyuz, Mir and there was/is no wasted space for anything. Point 2) While we are still using chemical based rocket motors there is allowance for wasted mass. Nobody is going to waste mass on anything that is not necessary and the only things that will have multiples will be critical systems like Oxygen systems, CO2 recycling, power systems, communications systems and water reclamation. Look at 30seconds for the gym area and then the detailed view at 3:30. There's 4 treadmills, 3 showers and 3 toilets and most stupidly of all 3 weights benches which wont work in free fall. *This's not even good enough for science fiction, it's ignorant science fantasy.*

@gordonbyron5145

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, too bad its never gonna happen LOL

@tonywilson4713

Жыл бұрын

@@gordonbyron5145 Unfortunately the Musk Rats and Elon fanbots don't care about reality let alone real engineering.

@gordonbyron5145

Жыл бұрын

@Science Revolution Wow, you are certifiably insane. I sure hope you don't own a gun.

That's really a good try at estimation, it highlights how difficult space can be, great insight. Looking forward to seeing the following episodes.. Thanks.

I really love the quality of this video! And the topic too. Awesome work, Thank you!

I love this! Especially the final point at the end of the video. Sums it up nicely.

I love your space videos! Please make more of them!

@tonywilson4713

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to all but, this is disgraceful idiocy masquerading as engineering and scientific fact. FYI - I am an aerospace engineer and I'd love it if we had a spaceship that could go between the earth and the moon or Earth and Mars, *BUT this is NOT THAT.* This is idiotic science fiction masquerading as scientific fact. Point 1) There is no space to waste on any space craft - period. Go look at any of the footage from the ISS, Space Shuttle, Soyuz, Mir and there was/is no wasted space for anything. Point 2) While we are still using chemical based rocket motors there is allowance for wasted mass. Nobody is going to waste mass on anything that is not necessary and the only things that will have multiples will be critical systems like Oxygen systems, CO2 recycling, power systems, communications systems and water reclamation. Look at 30seconds for the gym area and then the detailed view at 3:30. There's 4 treadmills, 3 showers and 3 toilets and most stupidly of all 3 weights benches which wont work in free fall. *This's not even good enough for science fiction, it's ignorant science fantasy.*

@DivineHillz

Жыл бұрын

No

@tonywilson4713

Жыл бұрын

@Science Revolution *IF YOU THINK SCIENCE IS FAKE THEN STOP USING COMPUTERS*

@tonywilson4713

Жыл бұрын

@Science Revolution In answer to you ignorant garbage and this is more for others than you. 1) They can measure spacecraft speed and location through several techniques. One of the most common is with gyroscopes as part of inertial navigations systems. Also they use the locations and angles of stars the same way sailors have for generations to get their position. 2) We know how long it takes for the Earth to go around the Sun. We know the distance and its pretty simple calculation to get the earths average speed around the sun. 3) The ISS like most satellites needs orbital boosting. Space is not the pure vacuum many think there's just very little of anything. There's still some drag just as there is for a car or airplane. Over time orbits degrade which is why you need boosting. Most satellites have small rocket motors to do the same thing the ISS does. Those that don't eventually fall out of orbit. 4) So what about the burn time of those rockets. You clearly don't understand the difference between a rocket that flies a ballistic trajectory and one that flies into orbit. What's important is how high those first stages boost the upper stages and how fast those stages are going when the booster runs out. Ballistic rockets only have to get up high. Orbital rockets have to get up high and go fast when they are high. Please don't embarrass yourself any further.

@SuperJompaVideos

Жыл бұрын

@Science Revolution Tell me you know nothing about spacetravel without telling me you know nothing avout spacetravel. Usually satellites have ion-engines to boost their orbit and keep it from decaying. The ISP of an ion-engine is much higher than a lower stage of for example Saturn V, which you used for your example. Secondly you don't understand relativity, because you feel to think that space is a stream of water or some shit. Please for god's sake study the subject before thinking you know more than actual rocket engineers.

Best technical details I've ever seen. Very informative.

If we really really want to travel all the way to Mars on a starship, then I think it is going to be multiple starships going at the same time. At least five starships. Some of them will just carry cargo. And atleast two will be crewed. This will give massive redundancy incase something goes wrong. Also this will drastically reduce the weight in carrying too many redundancy stuff in each starship as there is always another starship nearby. Also, since we can travel to mars only once in 2 years, it would make sense to send maximum stuff in one go. But a more optimal idea would be to create a "Mothership" in space whose only purpose is to travel between Earth orbit and Mars orbit. Think of it similar to ISS. This way, we wouldn't have to unnecessarily carry landing-systems on each starship which reduces weight massively. And also, we can give much more space to the passengers as we won't be limited by single cylindrical shape. Also, it would make it possible to give artificial gravity. Great high effort video by the way. Best on this topic!

@hillbillyintheasia6122

Жыл бұрын

all lestin too elon musk one ship cargo, transport , refueling . 3 different variables . aka transport ship need carry food water for 7 months the cargo ship carry extra needs for the transport ship and refuel ship used refill starship before it lands. hint why musk said 100 ppl . all need read what musk said send 100 starships same time. send cargo ships ahead too mars have 5 years of food , water ,oxygen other supplies before one human starship leaves for mars. used tesla human robots too build mars colony.

I love these kinds of theory crafting and technology/number comparison! Paired with great graphics and voice over, this video really was absolutely incredible!

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

You should look at Thunderf00t and Kurzgesagt for more info about traveling to and colonizing mars.

@dackel4253

Жыл бұрын

@@darrennew8211 I already know Kurzgesagt, but Thunderf00t is new! Thanks for the suggestion!

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

@@dackel4253 Oh, and there's also Common Sense Skeptic, who debunks all things Musk. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lXiN1o-pmLinqLw.html

Looks like we've found a future Debunking target, boys... This is gonna be fun.

@ludwigvanzappa9548

Жыл бұрын

YES!!!! LOVE YOU MAN!!!! Can't wait to watch it, I'm a suscriber.

@hans-joachimbierwirth4727

Жыл бұрын

Debunking needs at least an average IQ, which is far beyond your reach.

Amazing video mate! As always!

I'm starting to like your videos.This is the second one I have watched and I like your narration style along with the humorous comments you throw in for fun. Nice work.

This is awesome and very much what I've been thinking about. I've written 100+ pages of content about going to Mars and living there and just some of the technical challenges. The getting there bit is a big one that I don't think enough people have thought about. This is the greatest detail I've seen on the topic

@erictesch

Жыл бұрын

Elon stated with a slide back in September 2016 that mars missions should take 2024: 140 days 2027: 150 days 2029: 140 days 2031: 110 days 2033 90 days NASA has shown 30 days on Mars is possible to return before the planets are out of alignment meaning a full mission could be 330 days long instead of 5 years That’s 5.53x shorter of a mission Daily ration 2.5kg Food 3kg water 1kg oxygen CO2 and hydrogen can be converted to Methane and water using the Sabatier reaction and H2O can be converted to hydrogen and oxygen using electrolysis so this can mostly solve water, fuel, and waste issues meaning roughly 2.24x less mass per astronaut. This can effectively bring the mass requirement down to 825kg per astronaut (+ 75 kg astronaut + 75kg water) At ~1000kg per astronaut, 10 astronauts would only need 10,000kg for a return mission instead of 118,625kg

@emma-ns6fj

Жыл бұрын

do you know what type of power would fuel the inside? for example nuclear or solar or both?

@beyondplanesight

Жыл бұрын

@@emma-ns6fj nuclear wouldn't be feasible as it's large, heavy, and highly complex. Nuclear power just boils water to turn a turbine to generate electricity. Solar would be the most beneficial as the ship would have 24/7 solar radiation. There could be a heat exchanger that could help save energy by utilizing the light below UVB that solar uses to generate additional electricity.

@emma-ns6fj

Жыл бұрын

@@beyondplanesight interesting 🤔 but wouldn’t the solar power get weaker as the ship moved further from the sun?

@beyondplanesight

Жыл бұрын

@@secretname4190 you are correct that nuclear submarines have small reactors. The submarine costs $3.45 billion with the reactor costing $200 million or more, aside from cost, spent steam at low pressure runs through a condenser cooled by seawater and returns to liquid form. The water is pumped back to the steam generator and continues the cycle. Any water lost in the process can be made up by desalinated sea water added to the steam generator feed water. There is no seawater in space to cool the steam so it would not work. Solar arrays are much cheaper and simpler to install and can be pointed at the sun for 24/7 energy. If we could develop an energy source alternative that does not require heating steam to turn a turbine, then that could be used but there is little out there that has been proven to work at a commercial or industrial level.

Ok I know other people are already talking about this but I really think its an important idea that needs to be put out there more: Long distance space ships are only going to become really effective (large number of people, fairly comfortable, etc) if they are built in space and aren't designed to exist anywhere but space. If there ever comes a time when a fleet of starships head to mars, it would be (in my opinion) idiotic not to create some sort of mothership that accompanies, and even combines with them. When this 'mothership' reaches wherever its goin, mars for example, the landing ships (starships), the crew (all, or most, or maybe only some of the crew) will leave the mothership in orbit while they board the starships, undock from the mothership, and land on mars. To me, this is the only reasonable or even feasible way to transport colonists. There is far too much room taken up by launch and landing capabilities on a single starship, and there will simply not be enough room for the number of people that SpaceX envisions living on a Starship. Istg if anybody tries to put 100 people on a single starship heading to mars they're more braindead than a rock that was diagnosed braindead by 9/10 dentists.

@ClockMaster_3100

Жыл бұрын

I came up with this idea. Basically in orbit there could be a massive station designed to act as a hub for starships. Basically, starships can be refueled, Built, and repaired up on the station

@AnonymousAnonymous-gh5fs

Жыл бұрын

@@ClockMaster_3100 I like that idea, but my idea is more inline with having that space station actually go to mars, and stay in mars orbit

@shrin210

Жыл бұрын

Problem is nobody is going invest such amount of money. If its possible then they will build small mothership with similar to size of starship to act like centripetal force for living purpose and stationing in space only and around orbit .

@ClockMaster_3100

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonymousAnonymous-gh5fs True. It would be nice to have one around earth though

@AnonymousAnonymous-gh5fs

Жыл бұрын

@@shrin210 If the plan is to send a fleet of starships then I think a mothership the size of 2-3 starships is reasonable, and I like the idea of centripetal force. As I said, I see absolutely no feasibly way to to send that many people to mars without something like that. Elon may be ballsy but I dont think he's stupid. Any sane person could see that undershooting an investment like this and not providing a mothership of sorts would lead to nothing but disaster. So while I agree that nobody would be willing to spend that kind of money, somebody better step up soon and be willing, otherwise we will never be multiplanetary. I have hope that elon will.

Appreciate the work that went into making this video

Liked and Subscribed. Love anything like this. Cant wait to see Starship testing and the real deal later on.

Crew can also workout in gym room to create energy, in other word turning foods into storage energy, for various electric necessity in the ship.

Great concept, now cram all the unused space full with random science/mission gear and that's what it'll look like in reality

Dude wow you got a sub from me! Perfect content and exactly what I wanted to see. Thank you good sir.

Really enjoyed your video. Pretty thought out. There is a couple of items that are usually ignored that bothers me. 1) Starship when vertical has an up and down, but Starship when horizontal also has a up and down. When it's landing you want the people in the bridge of the ship to be upright. So the op's deck of the starship will probably look like the Dragon capsule. With 4-5 chairs sitting "upright" when the ship is doing it's flip maneuver to land. 2) The center of Starship will not be a "tunnel", but a "column". The main ship plumbing will be in the central column running down the ship, top to bottom (which will include the downcomer). That column should have hand rails / steps so people can climb up and or down the ship. Also, you wouldn't have a long tunnel running top to bottom. You will have a ladder going down only one floor at a time, with a slight off center look to the next ladder going down to the next floor. Like this, nobody will every fall more than one floor on Earth or Mars gravity and not 5-6 stories down. 3) I feel people that do these designs need to add water tanks between every floor, not to mention all sorts of wiring. So the in between the floors need to be much thicker, not just one level on top of the next. Because of this, I don't think Starship will have as many levels as people think it will.

@shoobidoobi1993

Жыл бұрын

Great comment on the middle column and the offset of level entries

@andrewreynolds912

4 ай бұрын

It's possible it could be a 100 percent for water reclamation

You worked out many constraints. Very good! The "belly flop" reentry phase means that seats need to swivel from down-toward-the-bottom-of-starship to down-toward-the-belly and back in a few seconds. This constrains the configuration of landing seats.

@allangibson2408

Жыл бұрын

Or you spilt the difference and have the seats at 45 degrees to the engines or bottom of the ship…

@bernieschiff5919

Жыл бұрын

The interior seating or couches might be reconfigured and repositioned for departure, zero g coast phase, and landing. Not really needed in zero G. Design for multiple use of major components are essential.

@eatonkuntz

Жыл бұрын

If all the seats face away from the belly it wouldn't be too bad. You would be comfortably reclined during the belly flop and upright during launch.

@bernieschiff5919

Жыл бұрын

@@eatonkuntz An airline row seating configuration is probably a realistic solution, there may be others. The couches would need to rotate up around their midpoint about 30 degrees for the decent and then quickly pivot back to horizontal for launch/landing. Space X will probably adapt existing seats they use now for the Dragon capsule.

@mrsupremegascon

Жыл бұрын

Is that really necessary ? Why do they need to rotate just for the few seconds of belly flop ? Geniune question.

Great video! They likely would be able to tap oxygen directly from the main oxygen propellant tank though, so that would save a lot of mass from the oxygen tanks you factored in.

@sewi014

Жыл бұрын

Similar with water as you can use the waste water from the hydrogen fuel cells to supply the crew. Shielding is another point, if 2mm of shielding is enough there is no way 5cm wouldbe used throughoutthe whole ship. That would mean a safty factor of 50x which i way overengeniered even if we arent talking about mass critical applications like space travel, and as mentioned a segnificant ammount of shielding could be provided by water tanks and other storrage as well as the structure itself with some areas havong more shielding to serve as shelter during solar storms or while travenling through the van allen belts for example where you have to factor in increased radiation levels.

now i know what to expect next Sunday when i get into one of these ! thanks 😊

EXCELLENT analysis!

Great video. I don't think the sections of the ship would be only dedicated to one thing. it is likely that there would be all elements included in each section. if they lost one section they would loose a percentage of all systems instead of loosing an entire system. if for some reason they couldn't enter the bathroom section for a week there are going to be problems. Amazing video

@mrsupremegascon

Жыл бұрын

It's not a sub tho, I don't think that losing a section is something that they are supposed to survive.

Looking forward to your next video. A nuclear propulsion solution has always been the best method to reach Mars. Let’s hope they develop one.

Thank You For This Awesome Video!

Awesome video. Great clarity and illustrations. Thanks !

11:23 - "However, solar isn't consistent." - No! Solar is very consistent!

@Steven_Edwards

Жыл бұрын

Especially in space where there is no cloud cover...

Well done, this was an excellent break down. I loved the simple to understand presentation and ways that you discussed overcoming the problems and requirements. I'm looking forward to your next video.

Fascinating yet so scary, I cant imagine living in a pod for 7 months, weightless, and with very risky components and possibilities. Much respect to the brave astronauts

Great video! love the visualizations!

Despite claims to the contrary, the astronaut who went to the ISS for 12 months, while his twin brother remained on earth. It was discovered that significant damage was suffered by the twin who went to space, and also by his own statements (he felt very sick in a general way with a malaise, perhaps a debilitating depression? It would take him a very long time to return to 80% of his former self, by his own admission.) Were this to occur on a Mars journey (and the likelihood would be increased due to the ISS being in LOE,)and still marginally within our planet's magnetosphere. What and how would we react/deal with a crew that could not function upon landing on Mars? Not enough resources are being put into this, as basic facts of space travel. 12 months on the ISS, or 6 months on the way to Mars, or the round trip to the moon and back. These all have differing timelines with their own hazards. Nobody is realistically dealing with any of the hazards that I am aware of. Psychological, social and physiological factors need to be taken into account before we start venturing into the unknown with humans, I would suggest. Cheers 🤔🤔🤔🤔

@DistinctiveBlend

Жыл бұрын

That's because a lot of people are caught up in the sci-fi fantasy (plus Musk worship) and so don't want reality raining on their dreams.

@hyfy-tr2jy

Жыл бұрын

Your point is quite valid and essentially makes a 5-year mission to Mars a one-way trip for those who go. I continue to say this every time something "Elon" comes up be it SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company or Hyperloop (among others)....Elon Musk will, someday, go down as the greatest conman in the history of the world.

@sewi014

Жыл бұрын

Despite your argument being valid in the sense that psychological as well as physiological issues will arrise you faild to mention the name of the astrounout you are refearing to but i assume its Scot Kelly, in which case both him and his twin brother mark were diagnosed with prostate cancer arroud a similiar time. If you are refearing to the canges in genetic activity thats somethig that happens in everyone in response to the environement and has an entire field of study called epigenetics dedicated to it. Something also missing in your argument that reaserarching the long there effects of living in space was kind of the point of the iss. After 20 years of reaserch we know a lot more about the dangers and how to prevent them and likely we'll get another 10-20 years of reasearch in before we ca consider trips to mars. The argument that nobody is dealing withnthe human factor is simply falls. Astronouts that travel to the iss undergo segnificant psychological evaluation and traing before missons to ensure they can work as a team and NASA conducted multiple studes on the psychological and physical effects of long tearm space habitation. Your argument makes it sound like astrounouts comming back from the iss are in a vegetative state unable to do anything which is frankly not the case, while also dissmissing the reasearch and brakethroughts thousends of scientists have achived in the last decades. Im not saying spaceX will be the ones to reach mars with the timeline they suggested, that is a PR stunt with an unachivable goals in that timeframe, but arrguing that no reaserch is done on the human factor is ignoring the work of a lot of people who have dedicated ther laifs to this cause.

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

I'll believe we have a hope in hell of colonizing Mars when we put a town in the middle of the Sahara or on Antarctica and don't resupply it for three years.

@charbax

Жыл бұрын

Polyakov's 678 days in Space, Avdeyev's 747 days in Space, and they're fine. At least the Mars mission has a purpose, unlike those Astronauts who just orbit earth for months and months without any real destination in sight. Also Starship is way way bigger than Soyuz capsules, bigger than ISS and etc etc, plenty ways for the Mars astronauts to stay in shape.

Though the mission to mars will likely consist of multiple starships to fix the wieght problem it is fascinating to see that it is theoretically possible to do the full 5-year mission with a single starship.

Thanks for all your Expertise on SpaceX Rocket. I Love it!!

Cool stuff!!

Overall this is a good initial breakdown of the challenges of such mission, however I'm hoping a future video will take in consideration not just nuclear energy but also multiple ship arriving at the same time and/or multiple cargo ship already there waiting.

@yashaswikulshreshtha1588

Жыл бұрын

Well why should we even colonize mars? There's literally no way to be independently surviving there. We can't gather resources, it's not sustainable at all!

@ashemgold

Жыл бұрын

I would think your reasoning would be the only way they will survive. Surely they will have thought this through and have multiple redundancies available at all times. I wouldn't get on one of those boats unless I was travelling with at LEAST two other fully loaded, non-crewed, back up ships and heading to a landing zone with a number of other ships already parked and robots actively building habitation and storage on the surface. Yes that was one long sentence.

Loved the vid! I'm working on a huge simulation for getting to mars and having an ongoing station there and have come to a pretty similar conclusion. Without nuclear the amount of solar you would need starts to get crazy.

@jaylewis9876

Жыл бұрын

What tool are you using fir the simulation?

@gholamrezaamin9746

Жыл бұрын

با سلام : من طرحی برای تولید انرژی الکتریکی بصورت نامحدود وبدون مصرف سوخت دارم ( انرژی پاک ) که میتوان از آن بر روی زمین وسایر سیارات وایستگاه فضا یی استفاده کرد ، بدون نیاز از انرژی هسته ای یا انرژی خورشیدی .

@manifestmars

Жыл бұрын

@@jaylewis9876 Its just a numerical sim, its all running out of a spreadsheet right now but the plan is to move it to python so I can do some kind of visualization.

@hillbillyintheasia6122

Жыл бұрын

@@manifestmars human in 2028 are 2030 . tesla bots on first launch .2026 and 2028

Congratulations. Detailed technical information with amazing visuals. Enjoyable.

Thank you for a very informative video.

I saw that the trip (to mars I think) would be 5 months, this is a lot like the first trip to America, it's really amazing. Based on another video I saw, it seems like the interior of the ship will be awesome. (apart from the fact that there's no gravity, but its depicted amazingly.)

One thing that gets left out is repair and replacement of damaged components. Things WILL break down and need repair, There needs to be an allowance for this.

@mikecyanide7492

Жыл бұрын

Yeah thank God this suicide mission won't happen. Current tech is abysmal. Anyone with even basic reason would opt for lunar missions and development a lunar launch facility utilizing diminished gravity, atmosphere orbital velocity and much more. Further more nuclear battles and reactors would be crucial. In short Lunar development and nuclear power.

@psdaengr911

Жыл бұрын

That's why it's unlikely there will be only one Starship launched from Earth and landing on Mars at a time. Private industry doing colonization doesn't think like NASA with just test pilots, volunteers prepared to die in all or nothing missions. , AKA Expendable astronauts. Multiple ships could be conjoined , docked, acts as lifeboats. SpaceX isn't building one friggin' Starship at a time, launching it and waiting to see what happens. Look at Falcon 9 and scale it up.

I NEED MORE SPACE! great video! thank you for ur work!

Excellent work. Don't forget the sequence of events: the Moon lander Starship version will be the first prototype of the Mars lander, and be used to test out some this technology.

it's gonna take a fleet of about 5-7 ships to do the trip. some will be for cargo only, and controlled from earth/computers. i also think they should be coming up with a docking/connection port that they can link the ships together, and make the trip as one bigger starship.

@kapytanhook

Жыл бұрын

Seems smart, keep all the shielding in 1, power in the other. Only 1 ship would ever have to land or reenter earth rest can just shuttle back and forth on a free return trajectory.

@alconway8515

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, I can imagine a connector/docking terminal for 6 Starships, rotating to produce artificial gravity and heading to Mars. Each Starship containing cargo, life support & crew or 4 containing cargo and 2 supporting crew comfortably. A number of configurations to consider for sure if multiple Starships are mated together before the journey and all able to land or only the crew Starships land once at Mars.

Starship's payload capacity is 100 tons to an useful high inclination orbit (starlink). For refilling they will use an equatorial orbit so 150 tons for the V1 ship and 200 tons for the stretched ship with 6 vacuum engines.

Amazing video, I love the detail

this is brilliant ..subscribed..

Your rendering shows 4 or 5m diameter rooms (15 feet), but Starship has a diameter of 9 meters! (about 30 feet!) That's huge! It will fit much more.

@Sims64340

Жыл бұрын

The Model 3 is under 5 m long and there was still space available behind

@richard--s

Жыл бұрын

@@Sims64340 but the crew quarters sre very small in diameter. And the model 3 is very impractical because of the small trunk opening, a bad decision.

@kyneticist

Жыл бұрын

Diagrams from SpaceX show a tunnel with ladders through the middle of the ship - so that the crew can move between floors, potentially with an elevator (for those who can't just Musk-magic themselves around). The full 9 meters by most accounts is measured from the outside to the centre.

This was a great video to watch and very thought provoking. My thoughts at the end are that the trip to Mars needs to be a flotilla (maybe 3) vs one ship. This would have many benefits. The multiple ships could be used, for example, one to carry people, one to carry supplies, 3rd for fuel. The ships could be arranged during travel to provide shielding when necessary. Finally, the ships could be used as backup vehicles - should something go wrong in one or the other.

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

You can't have three ships doing three different jobs and then use them as backup vehicles.

@theinterfaithshepherd9075

Жыл бұрын

@@darrennew8211 Yes...better to have all equipped!

Makes my day, when you drop a video.

That was pretty darn good!

wow THAT WAS AWESOME. You found all the information I found and more! I concluded a crew of 15. 3 pilots, 3 Rocket/Mechanical Engineers for maintenance and setting up solar arrays on the surface. 3 Geologist , 2 Evolutionary Biologist, 2 surgeons and 2 nurses. To that effect my only criticisms, is there there is no dedicated sick bay or Sterile Clean Room for surgery, experiments and computer repair. I concluded that the water in the floors is not optimal since the engines and fuel tanks will block nearly all that direction. The cargo bay walls could be used for water storage and that irradiated water could be used for power in fuel cells. The rest of the ship could use the Polyethylene barriers and a whipple shield for micro meteoroids and I think there should be 3 air tight compartments , Command Deck, Crew Deck and Cargo Deck. Most Mass Concerns with supplies can be alleviated by sending two additional Starships sent before the crew just as in the the Mars Express by Robert Zubrin

@jazzmusiccontinues1134

Жыл бұрын

Water does not become radioactive when irradiated. So using it in the walls as a shield in most normal space radiation absorption scenarios would have no effect on its potability. One issue would be that if layers of insulation were used as further radiation protection on the inside of the spacecraft, and few between the water and the outer skin of the spacecraft, it could freeze and rupture whatever container it was stored in.

@doctorPaule

Жыл бұрын

Sick bay or sterile room for surgery may not be needed. On U.S. nuclear submarines, emergency surgery is done in the mess hall, see Dustin's SmarterEveryDay series on nuclear submarines. On Starship, it could be done in the social area.

I saw one concept about having a 30m or so long truss and attaching one starship to each end, and spinning it up to like 3 rpm would generate 1G of spin gravity in the starships, thart way you could get around the bone degradation issues. Also, 1g isnt even necessary, martian gravity would be good, getting the crew to adjust to that gravity for months before even getting there.

@Rick-vm8bl

Жыл бұрын

The bone deg isn't really a problem if you've got adiquate exercise facilities. Astronaughts spend way longer than 6 months on the ISS and they're fine.

@assarstromblad3280

Жыл бұрын

@@Rick-vm8bl But they have problems walking etc even though they exercise a lot, so With spin gravity that problem is completely solved, and it doesn't really require much more fuel. It would also make way longer missions possible.

@Jowbaka

Жыл бұрын

Why not just use a cable?

@assarstromblad3280

Жыл бұрын

@@Jowbaka Probably would work well when it is spinning but starting / slowing the spin might be a problem with a cable I guess. If the ships are not 100% synced in the breaking they wouldbprobably get tangled etc

@allangibson2408

Жыл бұрын

@@assarstromblad3280 Cable release was a problem that air launched gliders have solved since 1920 (for exactly the same reasons). The angular velocity at release is a bigger problem.

Great stuff!

Amazing video. Well done!

Why not send multiple ships at once? The ships could combine after lift off for the majority of the trip and separate again for landing. From the calculations of this video much of the supplies and equipment needed for "living" conditions could be spread out. Spreading the resources, weight and power could make the trip doable and with less constraints. Please do a video on how resources, supplies and power could be separated and combined to accomplish this. Elon Musk has all ready proposed that multiple ships are needed. Why not send them at the exact same time??

@maxthegermanshepherd8942

Жыл бұрын

I think that it's because they want to be sure that the supply ships are safely on Mars before sending the crew. Imagine if one of the supply ships failed and the crew would be stranded or would starve -- it would be a disaster.

@Dysputant

Жыл бұрын

Even 3 will make such mission WAAAY easier. 1 for crew , 1 for backup to leave in mars orbit as return emergency , 1 with spare parts.

Great video diving into Starship going to Mars. I like the idea of keep crew complement to 4 on 4 Starships. 2 Starships will be configured with a small space station to launch maybe for enough for 8 and up to 4 Starships can dock to it to provide more cargo and living area. The other two Starships can land on Mars and off load the first popup dwelling.

I love the fold out beach chairs for the flight deck! I hope they ad some mood lighting for day, dusk, and night operations.

@davidwefler5716

Жыл бұрын

Lol I hope your joking about the "day, dusk and night operations" since there isn't really a dawn, day, dusk, night cycle in space ...but that has always been a problem with being in space for astronauts the human body does depend on something called Circadian rhythms though....

Another banger 👍

Great video concept! Was actually trying to model my own version over the last month - just sharing my thoughts to some of it and some comments: They can send at least a pair of Cargo ships 2 years before the Crew mission, to have some certainties. Can also send ships in groups of 2 or more, to dock and share space, rec.facilities, expand crew social/sanity options, and even rig a simple spin-g to have modest gravity for part of the trip, and share redundancy of equipment and resources, or even emergency befalling one ship.. 6 bathrooms and 6 gym machines, for 10 crew? at that rate, might as well have en-suite bathroom and gym, just saying. Really want to see this fast tracked so I get to see us on Mars in my lifetime. Thanks!

@tonywilson4713

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to all but, this is disgraceful idiocy masquerading as engineering and scientific fact. FYI - I am an aerospace engineer and I'd love it if we had a spaceship that could go between the earth and the moon or Earth and Mars, *BUT this is NOT THAT.* This is idiotic science fiction masquerading as scientific fact. Point 1) There is no space to waste on any space craft - period. Go look at any of the footage from the ISS, Space Shuttle, Soyuz, Mir and there was/is no wasted space for anything. Point 2) While we are still using chemical based rocket motors there is allowance for wasted mass. Nobody is going to waste mass on anything that is not necessary and the only things that will have multiples will be critical systems like Oxygen systems, CO2 recycling, power systems, communications systems and water reclamation. Look at 30seconds for the gym area and then the detailed view at 3:30. There's 4 treadmills, 3 showers and 3 toilets and most stupidly of all 3 weights benches which wont work in free fall. *This's not even good enough for science fiction, it's ignorant science fantasy.*

The other option is to have other ships carrying cargo and supplies for the ship's that are carrying people. 5 ships with 4 being just cargo. No need for life support systems just maximize room for cargo and supplies.

@Kintabl

Жыл бұрын

They will 100% go with that.

Eternally grateful

Very interesting calculations! Thank you!

As far as I know there is a maximum height for fighter pilots, I think such rules will be applied to astronauts as well. Astronauts that are under 170 cm for example would: require less calories daily, less space ( for example the floors height could be reduced increasing storage space ), better health ( men under 170 cm in height live on average 7 years more than men 182cm in height ) .

@melikby

6 ай бұрын

And for this reason, caring cost of men is more than women, because of this womens can sent to mars or anywhere, ı read a essay about this. Womens consumes less than men and appropriate for long term missions.

i honestly expected this channel to have at least a few million subs but 340k? for this quality content? smh. this type of content is the stuff i see with big tubers that got millions

@error200http

Жыл бұрын

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Wow, amazing! Godlike quality :)

Excellent video!!

The orientation of the seats on the flight deck could do some improvement, as the gforces during reentry should optimaly push you into the seat, with the ring config that would only be the case for a few of the astronauts so a more rektangular layout would be more comfortable. Anyway nice video in general with amazing graphics

@no4h1453

Жыл бұрын

Good point. Although this ring config looks impressive, it is not practical and makes no sense. It would probably work well for launch but Starship is designed for reentry with the belly. Astronauts will need to have sturdy front facing sitting position during reentry.

@jakobmax3299

Жыл бұрын

@@no4h1453 I actually really like the topic of reentry vehicles, and i think the main problem of the starship is gonna be reentry safety. Just think about it like you dont know anything about spaceflight. Would you rather sit on the tip of a skyscaper going mach 20 in the upper atmosphere, or a small metal box that is aerodynamicaly stable and always points right side down? Maybe starship is safer than space shuttle, but the fact you cant do preflight testfires because the tiles fall of seems kinda sketchy.

@psdaengr911

Жыл бұрын

What G forces during reentry? Anything that falls, falls at that same speed. Until belly flop g force would be one G minus drag. The belly flop is to limit terminal velocity by increasing drag. If the seats were mounted "bottom down" relative to the rockets and the backs aligned with the "belly" during falls in the direction of the backs, the net drag and would be perfectly aligned for those seats. Once vertical the rockets' thrust would be opposing the seat bottoms

@jakobmax3299

Жыл бұрын

@@psdaengr911 when tje rocket reenters it doest feel the one g of gravity because its still fslling, but in the deceleration of the rocket is felt by the crew.This is why crews in ballistic emergency reentries fell a lot of gforces, the sttep entry int the atmosfere creates a lot of drag and thus gforce.

@jakobmax3299

Жыл бұрын

@Andrew Well im not riding on something that doesnt have a launch abort system.

There will be several starship involved in one mission and possibly a few at the same time. There would be countless problems if you imagine just one starship carrying astronauts to mars. They will be designing the space craft in way so that docking is possible in deep space. One for crew and another one for cargo. Also there'd already be a starship on mars with necessary cargo equipments. Also each starship has to refuel in orbit to reach mars. It's not easy and never will be but fitting everything in one go or a new concept will make unnecessary problems.

Great video! Thank you!

I'm so glad you used SI measures. thanks from S.Korea!

I would expect an RTG or similar power supply for use not only during the trip to Mars but as a power source for the base on Mars . The base will of course need multiple sources of power but an RTG unit works continuously for several years and only requires a way to dissipate heat which is also useful on Mars . As for food , I would actually expect that among other things would have been sent ahead in a previous window so the only food needed to be brought with a crew is what they will eat on the way to Mars and any less long term storable foods . Pemmican is a food that would be good to have as opposed to only eating freeze dried and it keeps for years , depending on the recipe it can actually be pretty good along with much needed calories . I know from personal experience that eating freeze dried food gets old pretty fast without adding spices and even at that the caloric intake is pretty low per meal and not what I would call sustainable by itself . As a backpacker I understand the problems with going lean on weight , some sacrifices have to be made or you will suffer far worse things than carrying some extra weight .

@MrSlartyb

Жыл бұрын

Fine for on the surface where it can be buried some way off or screened, but on board ship it would create a radiation hazard for the crew. This could be mitigated with a lot of heavy shielding but that defeats the point.

I tend to think Starship wont fly solo to Mars. Imagine if you will a "space dock" which is essentially a Starship without fins or cockpit that has four docking ports around the perimeter. The Dock would allow four ships to fly together offering massive redundancy in case of a system failure on any one ship as well as allowing crews to interact and spend time visiting the other Starships via connector tubes integrated into the Dock. The Dock could also house massive amounts of fuel and cargo allowing a reduction in those items aboard each individual Starship. The Starships themselves would provide propulsion for the Dock so instead of vacuum engines the Dock could be equipped with multiple nuclear power sources which would remove those from the Starships enhancing crew safety.

@eatonkuntz

Жыл бұрын

Excellent point a out the nuclear reactors. It might be difficult to keep the radiation shielding aligned with the sun on all the starships unless whole interiors were shielded.

Great Job

Thank very informative

If they could launch 2 ships into space, then orbit them. They could connect the two. Either side by side, or some kind of tether device, and pull it. Then they could have more supplies in case something were to happen. They could then sustain themselves better. Then when they get to Mars the other ship would be fueled and ready if need be to escape fast.

@samuelec

Жыл бұрын

There's a movie on Netflix called "Stowaway" the physics is correct, by the way at one point they have to go on the other tethered ship.. spoiler alert, isn't going too well

@barracuda861

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelec Yeah but movies sensationalize everything. Always putting the worst scenarios so they get people glued to the movie. It could be a possibility but maybe that’s the chance taken when exploring.

High quality. Very well done. As for the Oxygen requirement. Part of the Starship tank could be tap for crew and fuel cells needs in case of emergency or calculate from the start for the basic needs.

@tonywilson4713

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to all but, this is disgraceful idiocy masquerading as engineering and scientific fact. FYI - I am an aerospace engineer and I'd love it if we had a spaceship that could go between the earth and the moon or Earth and Mars, *BUT this is NOT THAT.* This is idiotic science fiction masquerading as scientific fact. Point 1) There is no space to waste on any space craft - period. Go look at any of the footage from the ISS, Space Shuttle, Soyuz, Mir and there was/is no wasted space for anything. Point 2) While we are still using chemical based rocket motors there is allowance for wasted mass. Nobody is going to waste mass on anything that is not necessary and the only things that will have multiples will be critical systems like Oxygen systems, CO2 recycling, power systems, communications systems and water reclamation. Look at 30seconds for the gym area and then the detailed view at 3:30. There's 4 treadmills, 3 showers and 3 toilets and most stupidly of all 3 weights benches which wont work in free fall. *This's not even good enough for science fiction, it's ignorant science fantasy.*

supebr video! Thank you!!

Awesome!

One big problem: no exterior ladders. The elevator crane is the only way into the ship when landed, and elevators break down a lot. "always have exterior ladders from ground level back to the airlock" is something I learned the hard way playing KSP. Also, the crew quarters don't need as many beds as the animation shows, if they hot-rack like they do on subs. That's more space for storing food and air.

@Avaruusmurkku

Жыл бұрын

Problem with hot-racking is that its a severe hit to morale. You're going to need every single bit of morale you can get when stuffed into a relatively tiny space for half a year, being surrounded by absolute nothingness outside of the tiny bubble of life. No human has ever been as separated from the rest of the universe as Mars travelers will be during the voyage.

Great video. I don't understand why you would need the oxygen bottles when you have a hundreds of tonnes of Oxygen sitting in the propellant tanks? Additionally why would you use Hydrogen fuel cells when you have a giant tank of methane? Why would you not use Methane fuel cells? The other point that may be lost on some is that the hundreds of tonnes of Methane and Oxygen in the propellant tanks as well as the tank bulkheads would provide an enormous amount of protection if the ship is kept in an orientation pointing away from the sun. Why not create additional radiation and thermal protection by putting in blanket shields of similar but lighter construction as the ITER, as you demonstrated in your last video? These are suggestions not criticisms, thank you for such thought provoking material.

@12345maxx

Жыл бұрын

100% agree, methane fuel cells.

@acasualviewer5861

Жыл бұрын

makes sense.. SpaceX chose methane for a reason.

@hans-joachimbierwirth4727

Жыл бұрын

Because there is no access to the content of those tanks outside of the gravity well.

@michaelmoore1403

Жыл бұрын

@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 pumps

@hans-joachimbierwirth4727

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmoore1403 pumps don't work where there is no pressure gradient, and that depends on gravity.

Great job

Agree on the nuclear energy option. Can't wait for your topic on that.

I think it's more likely we'll send a fleet of Starships containing various items and resources needed to start forming the first small colony. Like you said, you'd need about one full starship for food & water alone.

@error200http

Жыл бұрын

Or just limit number of humans to 4 like in SpaceX Dragon / NASA Orion / Boeing Starliner

@vendettamedianl

Жыл бұрын

@@error200http That wouldn't even be efficient and you would have to send extra ships with supplies anyway.

@durshurrikun150

Жыл бұрын

There will be no colony on Mars.

@vendettamedianl

Жыл бұрын

@@durshurrikun150 Says who. Elon clearly seems to think differently.

@durshurrikun150

Жыл бұрын

@@vendettamedianl Musk is a scientifically illiterate conman, what he thinks have no bearing on reality and physics. For instance, he proposed the hyperloop, which is complete nonsense and he thinks that you can terraform Mars just by nuclear bombing its polar ice caps( which is nonsense, because the ice caps of Mars do not contain enough CO2 to create an thick atmosphere around Mars, not that it would matter as that atmosphere will be stripped away by solar wind). Oh and he thinks radiation is harmless to humans.

I've often wondered something about using water as a radiation shield: How will that much radiation absorption/shielding affect it's potability?

@markoa1310

Жыл бұрын

Radiation does not effect potability. Radiation are just high energy rays that can damage molecules like DNK. In case of water in worst case radiation just heats up the water but not by measurable amount. It would be different if the water would be contaminated with radioactive material like uranium. In that case water itself would contain radioative material and be radioactive.

@theq68

Жыл бұрын

Radiation and radio activity particles are different, you can bombard almost everything with radiation and nothing else change, radioactive particles are a different story because they are small and if you ingest or get them in your longs you will be constantly getting that radiation and probably dye.

@pipedreamsz

Жыл бұрын

Only neutron radiation would have any significant effect on this and even then it would need to happen over a very long time. Most other forms of radiation such as high energy protons, and alpha particles will be stopped dead by even a sheet of paper. High energy electrons are stopped fairly easily by metals and gamma radiation passes through most things and so is difficult to prepare for.

@nagualdesign

Жыл бұрын

In the event of solar storm or cosmic ray storm the transmutation of the water may induce super powers if ingested.

@pipedreamsz

Жыл бұрын

@@nagualdesign absolutely. We only want 4 passengers on board in this case. Just to make sure we can call them fantastic four

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Great content - This is going to be sooo incredible... imagine having other (spare) SSs going with you....? A flat tire will be no big deal. lol.