On Understanding Brexit & Donald Trump (Pt. 2) | Niall Ferguson | POLITICS | Rubin Report
Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Niall Ferguson (historian and author) about the ongoing culture war that he and his wife Ayaan Hirsi Ali are fighting and the security and safety concerns that they have as a result, the importance of history, his views on Brexit, Donald Trump, and more.
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Mr. Ferguson’s observation is spot on! As a first generation Mexican-American woman who voted for Trump, I must say, It’s refreshing to hear an “intellectual” who doesn’t talk down to an “average person” as if we are missing the capacity to think simply because we don’t have a doctorate.
@paradigmshift7541
6 жыл бұрын
Cecilia Norris lol that shit doesn’t matter much anymore, although doctors still matter. But “intellectuals” are now anyone that got bachelors, which don’t mean anything anymore
@6doublefive3two1
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for expressing exactly what I was thinking!
@6doublefive3two1
6 жыл бұрын
True among baristas but not adults; people inherently recognize the finer qualities of others.
@kevinnaranek6649
6 жыл бұрын
Paradigm Shift: "Intellectuals" are well on the way to devolving into the "pseudo" variety.
@senceralmaz9752
5 жыл бұрын
seriously? and you have no shame? what makes you better than those who are trying to cross the border for the future of their families? and these sheriffs who are running concentration camps? we study history to be ashamed of people being indifferent to jews and you are indifferent to a lunatic building a wall? I have no more words for you. Go figure what this makes you.
Ferguson is a great interview subject and a very clear thinker/natural orator. He speaks very well, and Dave knew to let him do exactly that. It takes two to tango, after all..... Solid interview.
@MrSimonw58
3 жыл бұрын
Your picture one of the most racist 19th century things ever ... empire is over, your the minority.
Good discussion. I don't always agree with Niall Ferguson, but I always find his perspectives and arguments provocative and he always comes across as sincere and intellectually honest.
@jonrosenberg6826
6 жыл бұрын
I know, I feel like I want to hear his opinions on everything just for the novelty of hearing from someone who is well read.
@bb7549
6 жыл бұрын
Agree. With his understanding of history, his perspectives are interesting and informed.
@Marmocet
6 жыл бұрын
Here are two examples for you. 1. In Ferguson's book _The Pity of War_ he makes the case that Great Britain bore the greatest responsibility for the outbreak of the first world war. I disagree with him about this. Great Britain played a role in the outbreak of that war, but I don't think they deserve the blame for it. 2. Ferguson argued that the central bank's policy of extremely low interest rates and quantitative easing, which they undertook as a tool to fight the economic depression that occurred and persisted for years following the 2008 financial crisis, would lead to hyperinflation. I disagreed at the time (monetary policy was actually pretty ineffective because interest rates were already as low as they could get), and in fact, no such hyperinflation took place, nor does it appear likely to take place, so I think I was right about that and he was wrong.
@zanthius1
6 жыл бұрын
He is probably also aware of serious dangers in whatever you envision as the perfect alternative.
@BeforeTheNoose
6 жыл бұрын
I thought Britain only joined to honour their treaty with Belgium? Because honestly i can't see why they would have wanted to join otherwise, they had a tiny land army, lived on an island with the biggest navy by far and were the biggest empire in the world. I'm not a history buff but i don't get what benefits GB thought they would get, and definitely if they could go back i'm sure they would think a lot harder about the choice because WW1 saw them transfer all their wealth and a lot of their power to the USA. Even the financial Capitol of the world moved from London to NY and i think they have literally only just finished paying USA back the loans for that war.
This was a deeply thoughtful, engaging and insightful conversation, I absolutely loved it. I have a lot of respect for Niall, especially the fact that he is open-minded about Trump and Brexit. Definitely going to check out his work now, and I’d love to see a conversation between Dave, Niall and Ayaan!
This is best interview Dave has done in awhile please have this guy on again
Jeremy Corbyn terrifies me, but even worse is his Shadow Chancellor (wannabe finance minister) John McDonnell. This is a guy who, when asked what his inspirations for his economic policy were, on a mainstream TV programme, replied:"Marx, Engels, Lenin". This is a guy who once told a meeting or hard-left activists "we should create an environment so hostile that no Tory minister can set foot outside Westminster without so much security that he can't do anything." This is a guy who told another meeting (there's a video on KZread of this) "the problem with democracy is that it doesn't work for people like us. We have to go out on the street and take it by force. They used to call it 'insurrection', but now we have to be polite and call it 'direct action'. I prefer to call it what it is: 'insurrection' ".
@91Durktheturk
6 жыл бұрын
At least the guy is open about it. This was not the case for many of the Blairites, who had a Marxist/Trotskyist past as well....
@graveperil2169
6 жыл бұрын
The problem in the UK is you do not win elections the government gets so bad that the other side gets in as it has to be better than the idiots in power And May is not looking good at least art 60 will kick in before the next election
@Saddamuel
6 жыл бұрын
We convict people for jokes and elevate people to Shadow Chancellor for treason. I'm being extreme of course but I'm getting to the point where if someone doesn't believe in free speech then I think that perhaps they should be held to their own standards. They are entitled to have no free speech and be prosecuted for opposing fundamental liberties. It's hypocritical and ironic but let's just call it the paradox of tolerance.
@richardfox6595
6 жыл бұрын
McDonnell is also the misogynist who favoured stringing up a female political opponent. Where were #MeToo ?
@charliechaplin7959
5 жыл бұрын
The uber rich have corrupted our political systems and taken most of the money. What the fuck reaction did you expect? Study history dude. This shit went down in 1789 too.
Unfortunately we haven’t heard from KZread regarding the technical issues on this video, and it is still demonetized. Watch the entire interview in full here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iH-fsKuIm6ranrQ.html
Ferguson never wastes a word when he speaks, always full of content and always leaves so much to ponder on after listening to him. Great conversation.
Dave Rubin is one of the best interviewers in the world at the moment.
From the UK. Niall Ferguson is a man of the people, as well as a serious academic. He gets what typical, working class people think, say and consider to be major issues. He is not an ideologue, he uses his brain. I voted to remain I the EU at the 2016 EU membership referendum, voted for Labour at the last GE, but would now vote leave, for many of the reasons Niall cites. I have left the Labour party, fed up with the cultural Marxism, anti Semitism etc, and lack of support for working class people or realisation that mass immigration is perceived as a problem by many working class folk. I have now joined UKIP, which I hope will become our only populist party, a party for the people, not the elites in their ivory towers.
Great interview. Ferguson is a clear thinker and Dave held the door wide open for Ferguson's fresh air to come in.
Cannot wait until you have Niall back. Keep up the great work Dave! Love from Ottawa.
Great interview Mr Rubin. Dr. Ferguson is one hell of a deep thinker who knows history deeply. He doesn’t tell us where we should head towards in the future - but instead fills a REALLY important “learn from history” niche. It’s down to us to figure out our path based on his historical advice.
Most people I know who voted for Brexit, voted to be in control of our own destiny, freedom is more important than the cost!
@graveperil2169
6 жыл бұрын
which is why project fear failed
@cshelley5658
6 жыл бұрын
"Making the politicians accountable to 'the people', where have we heard that one before....oh yes, 1917 Russia AND THAT WENT WELL! Just saying! I still support Leave,but yeah, bit concerning as a fellow history guy muh self! 🤔 Perhaps Brexit will accelerate the process towards Airstrip One? Who knows.
@Ididntchoosethisname
6 жыл бұрын
Freedom is money in your pocket. If the country is in bad straits economically, then we will only ever be reacting, trying to plug gaps in funding in schools, hospitals, the security services. If our growth stalls, stagnates or even falls. Then the government, whatever it's colour, won't be free to do anything. They'll have their hands tied by economic imperative. How is that for freedom.
@onemanarmy36
5 жыл бұрын
Now you know just a little bit of how the American colonialists must have felt fighting to gain independence from the British empire.
@jeanetteb2347
5 жыл бұрын
And I wish you all the best. Hope our countries will follow once you once again led the way.
Please have him back...and soon. I could listen to this guy talk all day. Such an amazing interview.
Scots man. And I'm part Scot, from my grandfather who was close to being full Scot, who fought in the second world war, served 7 tours and came home, a corporal, has a few dozen confirmed kills, was a bear of a man, and probably one of the platoon's support gunners. The man was by all accounts a kind and loving father and gentleman who did not like violence and aside from disciplinary beatings that were commonplace at the time, would not raise a hand to anyone. He died 3 years before I was born. Would have loved to have met him. I get a lot of my temperament and disposition from him because my mom takes a lot from him. Gotta say I have a lot of pride from my Scottish heritage. Scots and people with Scottish blood are just known to have a heart of a lion.
Niall, the world needs more of you! Thank you for all you do, fearlessly.
Ferguson is one of the world most focussed individual, able to analyse at a broad and deep level.
David has brought out the earnest and gritty side of Niall--I had not seen that before. Niall is a great historian. Here he appears as a man of conviction and long-range perspective and public concern.
I knew only a little of Niall Ferguson but now I think I'll do some digging on this fella. Great discussion! I rather appreciate that he is not above noticing his own weaknesses (or errors), it only makes his positions stronger. Good job Dave!
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a great heroic and historical woman . She is one of the most amazing heroes of our time...
Nail is very intelligent well read person. His analysis of what's going on now especially at Universities in spot on.
I really appreciate Mr. Ferguson's non-partial observations and embracing logic and truth ...
Dave, GET HIM BACK ON NOW!! I would so love to hear Niall's insights into the United States today with Covid and the George Floyd fallout underway, as well as post impeachment and the primaries with Biden vs. Bernie, and the upcoming elections! What a discussion this has been! Can't believe I am just now discovering Niall! And I had NO IDEA that he is Ayaan Hirsi Ali's husband!!
An able and articulate assessment of both Brexit and Corbyn. Haven't come across Ferguson before, obviously one to watch. And Dave Rubin nails it yet again with yet another riveting guest - my attention span is approaching pre-1996 levels again! Keep 'em coming...
@lik--
6 жыл бұрын
Jo Garland I am also so happily surprised to retrieve my attention span with Dave Rubin’s interviews. It is probably the only videos of that length that I can watch without interruption.
I second Dave's demand that Ferguson return to the Rubin Report! What an enjoyable conversation.
Niall is so correct and as honest as a person can be . In regards to his concerns about Jeremy Corbyn , as an Australian , I can clearly see his point . Australia has just suffered our own version of Theresa May ( the betrayer of conservatism ) in the form of Malcolm Turnbull , also a false conservative . Because of the terrible performance of Turnbull , we will get the Australian equivalent of Jeremy Corbyn in the form of Bill Shorten , the leader of the Australian Labour party , and that concerns me greatly .
Niall Ferguson has the most concise clear minded view of Trump, I really liked hearing his perspective.
Dave, here are some ideas for guests. Roger Scruton, heather Macdonald, robert cialdini, paul bloom, bjorn Lomborg, brian cox, tali sharot, claire lehmann, Deborah Soh. That is a good mix of lefties and righties but all intelligent and interesting people. (Edited to add claire and Deborah)
@owendavies3150
6 жыл бұрын
MrJoefizzy Roger Scruton!!!!
@MrJoefizzy
6 жыл бұрын
Owen Davies Yes Scruton is a favorite of mine. He was also mentioned in this interview with Niall. There are a good bunch of centrists as well, but if Dave has Scruton on I will buy his mug or subscribe to patreon or whatever. Thumbs up guys so Dave can see this and get him on!
@redberries8039
6 жыл бұрын
another vote for Scruton
@anathema2me4EVR
6 жыл бұрын
Dave would be in tears when his 'I agree with everything you say' schtick isn't tolerated by Hitchens.
@MrJoefizzy
6 жыл бұрын
The lefties love Brian Cox. We should steal him away for the IDW. They will go insane. He is of course very left wing, but as soon as he steps into the IDW he will be disowned and become a centrist/conservative by default.
I've always found you to be a very good interviewer Dave, as a new Libertarian, taking over my local party and running my congressional district convention, you were always the person I watched to brush up on issues close to the people. And now I'm the outreach coordinator and campaign writer for the McKennon for Texas campaign! A stupid side note. You are incredibly attractive!!! Hahaha
@Pangora2
6 жыл бұрын
congrats on taking over. My local Libertarians are those armchair types with heads in the clouds
@GiygasStarman
6 жыл бұрын
Show them how it's done Chris!
@breevestal
6 жыл бұрын
christopher robinson good luck!!
@ryanhunsader7038
6 жыл бұрын
christopher robinson shooters shoot
@kevinc3427
6 жыл бұрын
Hooray for liberty and welcome to the group that gets shit on the most from both sides!
Rubin, somehow you keep outdoing yourself and interviews. This was an amazing/fascinating interview. Thank you!
What an entirely great use of 43 minutes and 1 second of my life. Thank you Rubin & Ferguson.
Would love to see a discussion between this guy and Jordan Peterson, similar to the Shapiro/Peterson interview.
@owendavies3150
6 жыл бұрын
Brenden Palmer great idea!
@jessestevens_aka_jesus
5 жыл бұрын
@perwik77 Why wouldn't it be interesting?
@jonb12321
5 жыл бұрын
@@jessestevens_aka_jesus They'd probably agree on most things; hence not very interesting. Better would be Peterson and Nassim Taleb (who's a bit of a maverick).
@anaglyphx
4 жыл бұрын
"I want Daddy Peterson to tell me how to think"
Oh wow this guy is good.
@elisabethcastle2475
6 жыл бұрын
Bjorn Bouterse not good re Brexit or royal wedding. Lots of things he said did not reflect the real situation here with many misrepresentations. However pleased to know that he came to his senses and now support Brexit. He wouldn't know what the commoners were thinking if he's hanging around with prime ministers and such likes! The royal wedding was supported by the biased mainstream media and the liberal left. Most ordinary people were displeased with the betrayal of our age old customs and history or couldn't care less.
@redberries8039
6 жыл бұрын
......he really is a class act
Ferguson: "There were huge crowds. This match is extraordinarily popular among normal people." Considering that this was the lowest ever turnout for a royal wedding, the lowest tv ratings for a royal wedding, and least number of celebrations on-the-ground for a royal wedding, you've got no clue what you're on about.
Niall and Ayaan are two of my hero’s •
Dave you should interview more Hoover Institution fellows. It is the bastion of intellectual conservatism!
This was one of the very best interviews on this channel.
Love-love-loved this interview, Dave. I have found a new favorite thinker in Niall Ferguson and will be fervently be seeking more of his material in any form. Excellent interview and some truly wonderful insight on the part of Ferguson.
Get this guy back! Great interview
Thanks Dave. Niall Ferguson. Great Scot!
Very good! Thanks again, Dave!
Niall Ferguson. Welcome to America!
Again a very enlightening argument from Niall Ferguson.
Genius interview....real pleasure to watch
The Sean Connery of Common Sense
@dawnoliver2015
6 жыл бұрын
except on Trump
@jemimallah2591
6 жыл бұрын
lmao oh you poor baby
@nicholaswatson999
6 жыл бұрын
jemimallah let me put it to you differently since you didn't learn anything from watching this video essentially Trump winning was simply the fact that it could be tooken down to that one scene in Fight Club that movie we are the people that scrub your toilet and keep your bathrooms clean we are the people that fix your food we are the people that watch over you while you sleep do not fuck with us
@jemimallah2591
6 жыл бұрын
lol what the fuck. nice punctuation dude. actually undocumented immigrants keep your bathrooms clean and fix your food. yall just work soul-draining office jobs and rant on facebook about non-existent european no-go zones
@calach2924
5 жыл бұрын
european no-go zones are real trust me
Thank you for protecting Ayaan!
I did not know Ayaan had wed. I do so admire the woman and very much like this man. Happy news.
Great segment, Guys!! Looking forward to another "round" (lol - Dave having thrown down the gauntlet!!)
He’s deffo my favourite historian. Pretty much read all his works.
I really, really like this guy. He summarizes and clarifies things very well, and his Sean Connery kinda charm doesn't hurt either, especially when he's praising his wife and talking about supporting and protecting her. That bit makes me want to shake his hand and buy him a beer.
I'd like to know more about why he decided to become an American. Great interview as usual, and I will see Rubin / Peterson extravaganza in D.C. on the 8th.
A man worthy of great respect.
Great interview Rubin!
Good job Dave....bring him back
This was an utterly beautiful interview. He has to come back.
Hat's off to him in saying he was wrong. A man of confidence and secure about himself. So well said and on point about Trump.
Dave, can you bring Niall back now? Would love to hear what he has to say since this interview.
Terrific interview. I don't agree with all of Niall Ferguson points but it was very stimulating.
Great interview. Can’t understand why my relatives aren’t nearly as terrified of Corbyn becoming prime minister as they should be.
Fantastic conversation. Thank you.
That was an incredible interview, thank you Dave. I love your channel.
The migrant crisis made me vote for Brexit. That and the BBC's coverage of it. I became pretty convinced that the BBC was actually "grooming" the British people to take as many people as possible no matter whether they were Syrian or not. Every time the BBC interviewed a refugee they were an "engineer" a "doctor" or "veterinarian". I knew I was being played and was fucking livid. Cheers Beeb! 😁
@SkyGodKing
5 жыл бұрын
You don't get to put the blame of your decision onto the BBC. You will have to live with it for the rest of your life as a decision you made.
@internetguy8075
5 жыл бұрын
@@SkyGodKing "You will have to live with it for the rest of your life as a decision you made." Yes, that was the point of voting Leave, Einstein.
@mogznwaz
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I think that tipped a lot if people over the edge. We could see the open borders, the numbers, the terror attacks - then Angela Merkel unilaterally threw open the doors to Europe and we knew a lot of those people would end up with EU passports and the *right* to come to the UK, or would just make use of lax borders to get to Calais. Btw I also worked out his point about Atwoods book - women are already living in that world under Islam. The evangelical right in America is bad, but not in the same league.
Pretty much spot on about Brexit
Yes! Please have him back for history! This was a good one!
One of the best interviews I've seen all year.
Naill Ferguson needs to take a political platform, people would listen to him regarding the dangers of Islam
One of the best interviews yet.
I've read a few things by Niall and saw him years ago on Charlie Rose and really enjoyed listening to him. Between then and now I've become aware of a heck of a lot, in other words become "red pilled"(kind of a cheesy expression but, oh well) on many subjects. I've also become a fan of Dave Rubin. So I'm listening to Niall and it's as if he is living in a completely isolated world where things like the Deep State doesn't exist, there's nothing nefarious out there, it's all what you see on the surface is pretty much all there is. Politics is driven by the normal concerns of everyday people and is pretty much what it looks like it is. I was disappointed while at the same time understanding, that Niall has to be conscious of his "reputation". That was one thing I hated about academia; everyone is so self aware of how they appear to others. It's more than self-aware though, it's more like terrified. There are certain things you can not EVER think about or even ask questions about. For example, I was so surprised to hear him talk about 9/11as someone who completely bought the narrative, no questions asked. He described his reaction on that day and reactions afterwards. His thinking was of someone who had completely taken for granted everything that we were told was the truth. I'm not judging him, this is how I was for about 10 years after it happened, and I had read the 9/11 Commission Report cover to cover. I was just expecting an historian to have been at least aware of some of the questions surrounding something like that, especially when it would have very serious consequences to how you understand history and how things really are run. When I think of my own inability(mostly from fear of becoming or being thought of as "one of those") to even ask the questions or just slightly lift the veil on subjects like that, I can imagine someone with a reputation like he has it must be virtually impossible. Although, there are people with reputations who have questioned(Peter Dale Scott, Jim Garrison to name just two-and Garrison's reputation was completely ruined). If all that was involved in JFK was the lone nut assassin and 9/11 was the result of 19 hijackers who just happened to get lucky then the world really is as it seems. But if these things were, in fact, conspiracies that were perpetrated and covered up at the highest levels(to this day) then the world really is much different than what we currently believe it is. If these are true then our whole sense of how the world really works and what is important is a completely pretend world.
Didn't know jack about this guy before this interview, now, I love this guy!!!
Wow! I wonder how much little Dave will do for a Brown Nose Award. The first few minutes are precious.
This was awesome!
Thank you.
Brilliant mind with a highly balance approach.
The best interview on the channel.
Dave please have Daniel Hannan on. He is fantastic and has a much better perspective on Brexit.
@scdobserver835
6 жыл бұрын
Dennis Bembenek Please have Jacob Reese Mogg on your show, Dave!
This video needs me to sign in. It won't play on my player where it's played publically. KZread is fucking with Dave's video...
Wow, you got Ferguson! Congratulations mr. Rubin.
wow, the most clear explanation I've heard so far.....
I could only wish your American audience could hear the Glasgow accent, it's one of the wonders of the world. Though probably better that he doesn't have it as it would require subtitles.
@lucretius123
6 жыл бұрын
Norn Itus there are thousands of videos of Glaswegian accents on KZread. To this American ear, which has heard it in person, it is almost indecipherable.
@TheChugg11
6 жыл бұрын
Norn Itus Watch Dankula!
@Jacob011
6 жыл бұрын
As a non-native speaker, Glaswegian accent is fairly understandable. The Welsh is the most ridiculous one.
@KDC_1899
6 жыл бұрын
Im from Scotland, and his accent is not Scottish in any way. Southern "BBC" English, much like many other popular Scottish figures that have migrated south, e.g. Armando Ianucci (director of The Death of Stalin, and Andrew Marr.
@ultrademigod
6 жыл бұрын
Kyle I'm from the south of England and his accent is not remotely Southern English, it just sounds that way to anyone from north of Watford.
Awesome interview.
I like the idea of pt.1/pt.2 of the interview with the full version also available. Rather witty.
Hey Dave, I think you could get a gazillion more views if you also spent a little time cutting videos up per topic and throwing them on KZread along with the rest! These full length interviews are great, but some gateway Rubin would get a bunch more of us hooked. That being said: great interview work, your informal style gets all the juice out, I love it!
Very interesting discussion. Thank you
I'll tell you why he's courageous and says it like it is - he's an Aries, same as me, it comes naturally to us.
Fantastic interview!
imagine being in a pub, with these two amazing minds :-) coal fire burning, snow outside.. jack frost biting at the door..
I've been trying to watch this video ALL DAY LONG!!!!! I know it's not my internet.....could it be someone or a group of someone's trying to Block this from being seen? I knowI sound paranoid, however I'm not too trusting of the certain groups that don't want this info out there. Just wanted to let you know! I watched the part 1 of your interview with Niall Ferguson, really want to see part 2! Thanks for all you do!
After 6 years this aged like wine...
Quite interesting. Huge thanks for the interview.
Brilliant man.
Hi Dave, great interview. Just want to flag that this video is buffering like crazy for me. Every other video I've tried seems fine....
Fantastic interview, thanks.
He is telling the truth 2 years in advance !!!
Wow, Rubin was perfect at 26:30. He nailed it. I was having the very same question about Niall's conclusions.
So good!
He's pretty much explained what I think well here.
Good demand Dave.
Great discussion
I need to hear more of this guys work.