On desire and pleasure | J. Krishnamurti

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On desire and pleasure
Extract from the seventh conversation with Allan W. Anderson in San Diego, 1974.
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  • @10HW
    @10HW2 жыл бұрын

    In my family and circle of friends., I'm the only one listening to Krishnamurti - why is that? I feel his teaching is so clear, so intelligent, so natural - so obviously full of truth. Why am I alone? Anybody with half a brain cell should be in awe of such intelligence.

  • @prathikshenoy9158

    @prathikshenoy9158

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well I feel you are here as you felt there is something beyond. Whereas the rest are satisfied in what the world has to offer.

  • @thierryst-pierre2166

    @thierryst-pierre2166

    2 жыл бұрын

    me me me

  • @10HW

    @10HW

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thierryst-pierre2166 yep. (my) me me me is thinking about suffering - self-centered, self pity, loneliness. I get it. Thanks for reminding me. Forget all about the others - forget about yourself. Follow the river.

  • @10HW

    @10HW

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Atish Prasad it happens to the best of us, keep strong

  • @joanet501

    @joanet501

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Atish Prasad no worries they're trapped in the mind I hope you're not

  • @babblingidiot7903
    @babblingidiot79032 жыл бұрын

    That host has some of the best looking eye brows EVER!

  • @vanessapetrea2490

    @vanessapetrea2490

    9 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @taracair

    @taracair

    2 ай бұрын

    And the best "mhm" ever :D

  • @yeshajariwala
    @yeshajariwala2 жыл бұрын

    The seven wonders of the world: To see, to hear, to touch, to taste, to feel, to laugh, to love

  • @ashrafulhaque8759
    @ashrafulhaque875911 ай бұрын

    This series of dialog between Mr. Krishnamurti and Mr. Anderson is one of the best. Pure delight and wisdom! So fortunate to come upon it.

  • @pradeepkumarm944
    @pradeepkumarm944 Жыл бұрын

    K is brutal!! His hammer demolishes the material and the spiritual myths at the same time, with ease!! What a star ⭐!!

  • @Wardoon
    @Wardoon Жыл бұрын

    I was one when these words were spoken. Wise words indeed.

  • @user-ow4vj1jr8g
    @user-ow4vj1jr8g2 жыл бұрын

    LOVE YOU MURTI 你給予我成為別人的光的力量

  • @Naranja1792
    @Naranja17922 жыл бұрын

    This conversation is so meaningful...❤️❤️

  • @Prime_maverick
    @Prime_maverick4 ай бұрын

    😭this is the most sane thing I've heard in all my life❤️❤

  • @reycfd7753
    @reycfd7753 Жыл бұрын

    The mystics have the same end: go beyond thoughts, words, ideas, memories, desires, images. Krishnamurti is NOT the only one who reached nirvana or samadhi or ectasy, union, oneness. Thousands of them. Yet, the approach of K is direct, like Buddha, in pointing out directly to end one's malady. But in bhakti or devotional path to reach union, love of God above all thoughts, words, images, ideas, etc is same with what Krishnamurti is saying.

  • @psychologicalsuccess3476
    @psychologicalsuccess34762 жыл бұрын

    The thirst is utterly bottomless in man yet nothing is it's satisfaction

  • @vaniarul1782
    @vaniarul1782Ай бұрын

    I am so grateful that K sir made my path easy. Hats off K sir !!!

  • @solveiglarsen33
    @solveiglarsen33 Жыл бұрын

    A total joy to listen/ partake in truly intelligent conversation. ❤❤

  • @leighcecil3322
    @leighcecil33222 жыл бұрын

    I like his cravat... Judu U could trust him with the world 🙏☮️

  • @robertsmithee1455
    @robertsmithee1455 Жыл бұрын

    "What Place Has Control" - There is an answer that can be found when removing it: No Control = Infancy. Control might be seen as medicine - too much medicine can be harmful. Medicine at the wrong time can be harmful. No medicine can be harmful. Raging against medicine may be a frustrating (and perhaps unwholesome) undertaking.

  • @tessotess
    @tessotess2 жыл бұрын

    Totally enjoyed this one, from the beginning to the end!

  • @NoCenterTV

    @NoCenterTV

    2 жыл бұрын

    Careful now :)

  • @rafequetbava

    @rafequetbava

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no beginnings or ends. All is an illusion.

  • @sunitagurjar5301
    @sunitagurjar53012 жыл бұрын

    It's very clam & clarity to Listen from Guru🙏🙏🙏

  • @viveksanyal2773
    @viveksanyal27732 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @sucheta8619
    @sucheta8619 Жыл бұрын

    He always speaks from his truth

  • @Oouri.0.2.0
    @Oouri.0.2.0 Жыл бұрын

    this is beautiful. yes. i go deep with it. i want to share this pure joy all the time with everyone i met. i don't think i need to be something or someone to do that. because joy and ecstacy is in everything. in every moment. because my consciousness is it. unconditionally blessed. i just want to share that with every living beings while i'm on earth. i can't think what else possibily i can do better, to myself and world. i was deceptive. i believed i need to acquire something and be something else to reach that state. couldn't choose anything. i get to felt didn't know why i'm here. meanwhile i was in constant struggle of why can't i get there now. why can't i live it now. this is all bullshit. i want to leave my body. everything seemed hopeless. but just letting go of it every moment when this beliefs come up and take places, efforlessly, is what i should going to do. world where everyone can be themself is the heaven on earth. where everyone finally let go of fear and misbelief about one another based on past experiences. where everyone eternally being present and enjoy the pleasure and short time that is given as a gift as being on this magical earth. might difficult to believe everyone is actually wants me to be happy but i know deep down everyone does, as deep down all they want is being happy. only way to be happy is choose happiness regardless of circumstances life giving me.

  • @Joey-pt6nf
    @Joey-pt6nf2 жыл бұрын

    This is why, as K points out, the mind seems incapable of looking directly at an unpleasant fact without immediately escaping into non-fact.

  • @SuperThushi
    @SuperThushi Жыл бұрын

    Thank you🤗🤗

  • @martinshannon7632
    @martinshannon7632 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant, thanks

  • @temwa4874
    @temwa48742 жыл бұрын

    Very grateful

  • @arvindsarai
    @arvindsarai2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @Josh_the_Grey
    @Josh_the_Grey4 ай бұрын

    What a revolutionary discussion!

  • @nasimshakil4682
    @nasimshakil46822 жыл бұрын

    🙏💞

  • @rasaaudickaite2737
    @rasaaudickaite27372 жыл бұрын

    Thank You !

  • @mukeshjoshi6306
    @mukeshjoshi63062 жыл бұрын

    🙏❤️❤️

  • @billymercey4654
    @billymercey46542 жыл бұрын

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @preethikrao
    @preethikrao2 жыл бұрын

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @UnniG
    @UnniG2 жыл бұрын

    🌹🙏

  • @karimrohie9245
    @karimrohie92452 жыл бұрын

    There is no path to god, the path itself is god

  • @suhassuhas5472
    @suhassuhas54724 ай бұрын

    🙏✨

  • @ramongomez8849
    @ramongomez88492 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏻

  • @Shunya_Advait
    @Shunya_Advait2 жыл бұрын

    🙏

  • @leilamobasserii
    @leilamobasserii Жыл бұрын

  • @williamramos6643
    @williamramos66432 жыл бұрын

    Asking people to consider an ending of the l does sound out there. Remember we refer to ourselves as the center of the universe,the essence of exsistance.We tell them we are actually a disaster waiting to happen

  • @kuuvenpr
    @kuuvenpr Жыл бұрын

    12:05 Great Story.

  • @Sirach-pv5xv
    @Sirach-pv5xv2 жыл бұрын

    Westerners have such a hard time with the simple question...What is..... something??? What IS Water? People say its H2O... no no thats what we call as waters chemical composition. NOBODY knows what is water..... WHAT IN THE HELL IS IT??? see..... something happens..... you have to admit that u simply do not know. *We don’t know what ANYTHING IS!!!*

  • @psychologicalsuccess3476

    @psychologicalsuccess3476

    2 жыл бұрын

    No... We know exactly what it is we look upon it, we feel it, we touch it, we drink it, we don't have to go into extreme detail to know it in the present moment completely as it is in that moment... Uhm yeah be more silent see what silence is.

  • @shreeshabhat110

    @shreeshabhat110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Truth is As we go on thinking, we see we know less things

  • @solelysoul8543

    @solelysoul8543

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@psychologicalsuccess3476 we ????

  • @AzureHadit

    @AzureHadit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Water is a word

  • @chuckhines459

    @chuckhines459

    Жыл бұрын

    You're correct. All the things we see in the world have only names for them.

  • @salilb862
    @salilb8622 жыл бұрын

    Where is the next part please? Can I suggest something please - In such videos that have ongoing conversation going on, it would be of great help if they are uploaded fully (maybe in parts). After watching such vids if the next part is not found, it makes us very disappointed. While you are doing a great job uploading such treasures for the benefit of people, please ensure that the entire conversation and the message JK wanted to pass on properly reaches to the audience. It has happened couple of times that I couldn’t find the next and very important part of the ongoing dialogue, and hence this message. Thanks 🙏

  • @KFoundation

    @KFoundation

    2 жыл бұрын

    For this and any other extracts, you can look it up yourself by searching for the full talk using the information in the video description. In this case, simply search for 'Krishnamurti Anderson 7' either directly on KZread or Google. If you learn this method you won't need to ask for the link again. Hope this helps.

  • @salilb862

    @salilb862

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KFoundation Thanks for your prompt response! Krishnamurti Anderson 7 will help but just wondering how will that work for other videos! And how would I know what keywords to search for? It maybe known to you but not to the viewers as to what keywords to search the next or previous video, it doesn’t look that obvious. In the description if you can mention the keywords or the link to previous and next video, it will be helpful

  • @KFoundation

    @KFoundation

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@salilb862 You can easily find the keywords by looking in the extract's description, where we always make mention of the full-length video from which the excerpt was taken.

  • @salilb862

    @salilb862

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KFoundation Hi team, as per your advise to search the videos, I searched the third part as “Krishnamurti rajghat 1976 public discussion 3” and couldn’t find it. It is becoming really difficult to get the complete message JK wanted to convey. Humble request to refine the process of uploading videos in parts that helps finding the next one.

  • @KFoundation

    @KFoundation

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only two public discussions were held in Rajghat in 1976, hence why you couldn't find a third one - it doesn't exist.

  • @sumit1926
    @sumit19262 жыл бұрын

    Sir make a video on desire and fear fully explained

  • @ommeghwansi1578

    @ommeghwansi1578

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who will do it? Unfortunately, Krishnamurti is not with us.

  • @moryas1414
    @moryas14142 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this beautiful video 🙏

  • @ZenSage-xy4cf
    @ZenSage-xy4cf2 жыл бұрын

    Allow desires on this beastly plain. Harm to fellow man And lifeforms...worthing self upon material and external eye

  • @hierarchy934
    @hierarchy9342 жыл бұрын

    ❣️

  • @Joey-pt6nf
    @Joey-pt6nf2 жыл бұрын

    Everything is atoms in motion. Atoms are positive and negative. Because we ARE this, we seek pleasure, health, beauty...and we avoid pain, sickness, ugliness. We avoid disturbing facts...such as death or a universe without meaning...and are drawn to promising theories of eternal life. We resist facts on an atomic level then.

  • @KHO-vn1iw
    @KHO-vn1iw2 жыл бұрын

    🙏🌲🙏🌳🙏

  • @redchillibananachips
    @redchillibananachips2 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful

  • @aldotertus
    @aldotertusАй бұрын

    Why not love take root on the human heart?

  • @bbsulhyan
    @bbsulhyan5 ай бұрын

    Where is the next part

  • @aajjuu
    @aajjuu Жыл бұрын

    nice eyebrows

  • @satishayr2848
    @satishayr2848 Жыл бұрын

    By controlling it will be streamlined to attain spiritual goal and I don't think it will squeezed out

  • @TommyEfreeti
    @TommyEfreeti2 жыл бұрын

    Their full (seventh) conversation is posted here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iauAlZuQn7TJdbA.html

  • @hariom_bajpai

    @hariom_bajpai

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much

  • @paulcbaum74
    @paulcbaum742 жыл бұрын

    It's all about the context my friend and not about the content of the context.

  • @hetalsutar9380
    @hetalsutar93807 ай бұрын

    Where can i find the full vdo

  • @alokgusain3732
    @alokgusain37322 жыл бұрын

    Can I get link of this full talk?

  • @KFoundation

    @KFoundation

    2 жыл бұрын

    For this and any other extracts, you can look it up yourself by searching for the full talk using the information in the video description. In this case, simply search for 'San Diego 1974 Conversation 7' either directly on KZread or Google. If you learn this method you won't need to ask for the link again. Hope this helps.

  • @aryanbishn01
    @aryanbishn018 ай бұрын

    32:05 lol 😄to😐

  • @joysaab3084
    @joysaab30842 жыл бұрын

    A man without desire is nothing but vegitables! I think that your perceptions change with age. Am l right Sirs?

  • @sureshgaikwad5004

    @sureshgaikwad5004

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can live your life without desiring. You just act for issue in front of you. Your actions in the present will take fruit. What is the need of desiring which is future.

  • @Oouri.0.2.0
    @Oouri.0.2.0 Жыл бұрын

    so.. how do we live with desires?

  • @AlDo-kw7sc

    @AlDo-kw7sc

    Жыл бұрын

    With conflict

  • @AlDo-kw7sc

    @AlDo-kw7sc

    Жыл бұрын

    The "how" means control. Living without controlling it leads to it revealing itself as it actually is. Means we are holding an idea, projecting an ending of, that is to be attained and so on.

  • @Oouri.0.2.0

    @Oouri.0.2.0

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AlDo-kw7sc so let's say when desire arise, notice them but not actually go get a donut?

  • @Sparsh_Ahuja
    @Sparsh_Ahuja2 жыл бұрын

    I thik this is not a full video.

  • @KFoundation

    @KFoundation

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's an extract from the seventh conversation with Allan W. Anderson in San Diego, 1974.

  • @estudiopersonal1020
    @estudiopersonal10202 жыл бұрын

    Can some explain me what he means by the step of contact on the creation of desire?

  • @ritesharora6032

    @ritesharora6032

    2 жыл бұрын

    step of contact is when you touch,see, smell the car, clothes etc

  • @Pradoceleste

    @Pradoceleste

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everything starts with the senses. After the sensation there is the contact with the thing. Then, the sensation is transformed in the brain, so the mind realizes it. And then, thought says: I want this, I want to have it. That is desire. Krishna said that when there is a center between an object and the observer, desire takes place. I hope you can understand it.

  • @anasoftmarine

    @anasoftmarine

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because it is Immortal

  • @anasoftmarine

    @anasoftmarine

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, this comment was for another comment 🙏

  • @7Denial7

    @7Denial7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ritesharora6032 But then how is it different from the first step - perception?

  • @arciebaric3067
    @arciebaric30672 жыл бұрын

    is our freewill a desire?

  • @anestos2180

    @anestos2180

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes will is desire or form of desire that's why it will never be free.

  • @Bebaskemanasaja

    @Bebaskemanasaja

    2 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @user-uy7ez1uo7y

    @user-uy7ez1uo7y

    Жыл бұрын

    Free will is an illusion!

  • @jam7616
    @jam7616 Жыл бұрын

    I wont blame myself for being distracted by such a pair of eyebrows

  • @vanessapetrea2490

    @vanessapetrea2490

    9 ай бұрын

    😆😅

  • @rattangujadhur8215
    @rattangujadhur82152 жыл бұрын

    Blistering mind

  • @george1449
    @george14492 жыл бұрын

    I have a huge desire to have sex with women, but it never happened because of some fears of approaching women. I'm 31 and the desire is so strong, don't know what to do with it anymore.

  • @sampaite3370
    @sampaite3370 Жыл бұрын

    I understand the process of desire formation, and why it is absurd to control desire through this talk... But what I don't understand is if desire is not to be controlled, how else do we act on it? Example: desire for sexual gratification is present in all and it absurd to control it... So what do we do with it? Gratify it? Anyone please enlighten... How do we live with it

  • @AlDo-kw7sc

    @AlDo-kw7sc

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing that "does something with it", is part the it. This way(doing), leads to control, suppression or achieving release, etc., so is it to not do anything(?) Dont do, dont not do....surely it is to question the doing in relation to(thought) that the fellow is on about.

  • @SagarKumar-zo9yg
    @SagarKumar-zo9yg2 жыл бұрын

    I am a medical student, currently in 3rd year of mbbs.This wasn't my interest but I had taken this stream because of great selfish purpose.I have not been liking this field since 1st year but was tolerating it.after listening Krishnamurti ji I have realised that I have done a total blunder with my life. I am totally wasting my energy.the energy which requires for total action,seems to be impossible with this field for me.what should I do?

  • @shreyanshukumar9033

    @shreyanshukumar9033

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't quit. Try to seek balance. Peace within is possible, indifferent from the chaos outside. Read "commentaries on living" by K. It'll help.

  • @chandrakiranbolla6583

    @chandrakiranbolla6583

    2 жыл бұрын

    Firstly accept yourself and just look at taking the mbbs in other perspective (in some one as who really love mbbs ) get to know things about mbbs and even after that you don't find it worthy then you can decide

  • @immortal6748
    @immortal67482 жыл бұрын

    Why you are repeating this video.

  • @anasoftmarine

    @anasoftmarine

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because it is immortal

  • @serenity1328

    @serenity1328

    2 жыл бұрын

    you have choices

  • @cosmosworld1214

    @cosmosworld1214

    2 ай бұрын

    Because you repeating 😂😂😂😂😂 that's I repeating 😅😅😅😅 ok

  • @leighcecil3322
    @leighcecil3322 Жыл бұрын

    See what takes place..? We're is the ending..? LoL 🤷 JK at his best..🙈

  • @nirajpatil3061
    @nirajpatil30616 ай бұрын

    His "you follow" is so irritating 😢

  • @Sudusa
    @Sudusa3 күн бұрын

    Nonsense

  • @buddhikap9915
    @buddhikap99152 жыл бұрын

    This is a very weak presentation by JK. A lot of unnecessary stories & talking, compared to all other previous presentations.

  • @bhupendratomar4575
    @bhupendratomar45752 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 Жыл бұрын