On desire and pleasure | J. Krishnamurti
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On desire and pleasure
Extract from the seventh conversation with Allan W. Anderson in San Diego, 1974.
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In my family and circle of friends., I'm the only one listening to Krishnamurti - why is that? I feel his teaching is so clear, so intelligent, so natural - so obviously full of truth. Why am I alone? Anybody with half a brain cell should be in awe of such intelligence.
@prathikshenoy9158
2 жыл бұрын
Well I feel you are here as you felt there is something beyond. Whereas the rest are satisfied in what the world has to offer.
@thierryst-pierre2166
2 жыл бұрын
me me me
@10HW
2 жыл бұрын
@@thierryst-pierre2166 yep. (my) me me me is thinking about suffering - self-centered, self pity, loneliness. I get it. Thanks for reminding me. Forget all about the others - forget about yourself. Follow the river.
@10HW
2 жыл бұрын
@Atish Prasad it happens to the best of us, keep strong
@joanet501
2 жыл бұрын
@Atish Prasad no worries they're trapped in the mind I hope you're not
That host has some of the best looking eye brows EVER!
@vanessapetrea2490
9 ай бұрын
😂
@taracair
2 ай бұрын
And the best "mhm" ever :D
The seven wonders of the world: To see, to hear, to touch, to taste, to feel, to laugh, to love
This series of dialog between Mr. Krishnamurti and Mr. Anderson is one of the best. Pure delight and wisdom! So fortunate to come upon it.
K is brutal!! His hammer demolishes the material and the spiritual myths at the same time, with ease!! What a star ⭐!!
I was one when these words were spoken. Wise words indeed.
LOVE YOU MURTI 你給予我成為別人的光的力量
This conversation is so meaningful...❤️❤️
😭this is the most sane thing I've heard in all my life❤️❤
The mystics have the same end: go beyond thoughts, words, ideas, memories, desires, images. Krishnamurti is NOT the only one who reached nirvana or samadhi or ectasy, union, oneness. Thousands of them. Yet, the approach of K is direct, like Buddha, in pointing out directly to end one's malady. But in bhakti or devotional path to reach union, love of God above all thoughts, words, images, ideas, etc is same with what Krishnamurti is saying.
The thirst is utterly bottomless in man yet nothing is it's satisfaction
I am so grateful that K sir made my path easy. Hats off K sir !!!
A total joy to listen/ partake in truly intelligent conversation. ❤❤
I like his cravat... Judu U could trust him with the world 🙏☮️
"What Place Has Control" - There is an answer that can be found when removing it: No Control = Infancy. Control might be seen as medicine - too much medicine can be harmful. Medicine at the wrong time can be harmful. No medicine can be harmful. Raging against medicine may be a frustrating (and perhaps unwholesome) undertaking.
Totally enjoyed this one, from the beginning to the end!
@NoCenterTV
2 жыл бұрын
Careful now :)
@rafequetbava
Жыл бұрын
There is no beginnings or ends. All is an illusion.
It's very clam & clarity to Listen from Guru🙏🙏🙏
Thank you
He always speaks from his truth
this is beautiful. yes. i go deep with it. i want to share this pure joy all the time with everyone i met. i don't think i need to be something or someone to do that. because joy and ecstacy is in everything. in every moment. because my consciousness is it. unconditionally blessed. i just want to share that with every living beings while i'm on earth. i can't think what else possibily i can do better, to myself and world. i was deceptive. i believed i need to acquire something and be something else to reach that state. couldn't choose anything. i get to felt didn't know why i'm here. meanwhile i was in constant struggle of why can't i get there now. why can't i live it now. this is all bullshit. i want to leave my body. everything seemed hopeless. but just letting go of it every moment when this beliefs come up and take places, efforlessly, is what i should going to do. world where everyone can be themself is the heaven on earth. where everyone finally let go of fear and misbelief about one another based on past experiences. where everyone eternally being present and enjoy the pleasure and short time that is given as a gift as being on this magical earth. might difficult to believe everyone is actually wants me to be happy but i know deep down everyone does, as deep down all they want is being happy. only way to be happy is choose happiness regardless of circumstances life giving me.
This is why, as K points out, the mind seems incapable of looking directly at an unpleasant fact without immediately escaping into non-fact.
Thank you🤗🤗
Brilliant, thanks
Very grateful
Amazing
What a revolutionary discussion!
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Thank You !
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There is no path to god, the path itself is god
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Asking people to consider an ending of the l does sound out there. Remember we refer to ourselves as the center of the universe,the essence of exsistance.We tell them we are actually a disaster waiting to happen
12:05 Great Story.
Westerners have such a hard time with the simple question...What is..... something??? What IS Water? People say its H2O... no no thats what we call as waters chemical composition. NOBODY knows what is water..... WHAT IN THE HELL IS IT??? see..... something happens..... you have to admit that u simply do not know. *We don’t know what ANYTHING IS!!!*
@psychologicalsuccess3476
2 жыл бұрын
No... We know exactly what it is we look upon it, we feel it, we touch it, we drink it, we don't have to go into extreme detail to know it in the present moment completely as it is in that moment... Uhm yeah be more silent see what silence is.
@shreeshabhat110
2 жыл бұрын
Truth is As we go on thinking, we see we know less things
@solelysoul8543
2 жыл бұрын
@@psychologicalsuccess3476 we ????
@AzureHadit
2 жыл бұрын
Water is a word
@chuckhines459
Жыл бұрын
You're correct. All the things we see in the world have only names for them.
Where is the next part please? Can I suggest something please - In such videos that have ongoing conversation going on, it would be of great help if they are uploaded fully (maybe in parts). After watching such vids if the next part is not found, it makes us very disappointed. While you are doing a great job uploading such treasures for the benefit of people, please ensure that the entire conversation and the message JK wanted to pass on properly reaches to the audience. It has happened couple of times that I couldn’t find the next and very important part of the ongoing dialogue, and hence this message. Thanks 🙏
@KFoundation
2 жыл бұрын
For this and any other extracts, you can look it up yourself by searching for the full talk using the information in the video description. In this case, simply search for 'Krishnamurti Anderson 7' either directly on KZread or Google. If you learn this method you won't need to ask for the link again. Hope this helps.
@salilb862
2 жыл бұрын
@@KFoundation Thanks for your prompt response! Krishnamurti Anderson 7 will help but just wondering how will that work for other videos! And how would I know what keywords to search for? It maybe known to you but not to the viewers as to what keywords to search the next or previous video, it doesn’t look that obvious. In the description if you can mention the keywords or the link to previous and next video, it will be helpful
@KFoundation
2 жыл бұрын
@@salilb862 You can easily find the keywords by looking in the extract's description, where we always make mention of the full-length video from which the excerpt was taken.
@salilb862
2 жыл бұрын
@@KFoundation Hi team, as per your advise to search the videos, I searched the third part as “Krishnamurti rajghat 1976 public discussion 3” and couldn’t find it. It is becoming really difficult to get the complete message JK wanted to convey. Humble request to refine the process of uploading videos in parts that helps finding the next one.
@KFoundation
2 жыл бұрын
Only two public discussions were held in Rajghat in 1976, hence why you couldn't find a third one - it doesn't exist.
Sir make a video on desire and fear fully explained
@ommeghwansi1578
2 жыл бұрын
Who will do it? Unfortunately, Krishnamurti is not with us.
Thank you very much for this beautiful video 🙏
Allow desires on this beastly plain. Harm to fellow man And lifeforms...worthing self upon material and external eye
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Everything is atoms in motion. Atoms are positive and negative. Because we ARE this, we seek pleasure, health, beauty...and we avoid pain, sickness, ugliness. We avoid disturbing facts...such as death or a universe without meaning...and are drawn to promising theories of eternal life. We resist facts on an atomic level then.
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Beautiful
Why not love take root on the human heart?
Where is the next part
nice eyebrows
By controlling it will be streamlined to attain spiritual goal and I don't think it will squeezed out
Their full (seventh) conversation is posted here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iauAlZuQn7TJdbA.html
@hariom_bajpai
9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
It's all about the context my friend and not about the content of the context.
Where can i find the full vdo
Can I get link of this full talk?
@KFoundation
2 жыл бұрын
For this and any other extracts, you can look it up yourself by searching for the full talk using the information in the video description. In this case, simply search for 'San Diego 1974 Conversation 7' either directly on KZread or Google. If you learn this method you won't need to ask for the link again. Hope this helps.
32:05 lol 😄to😐
A man without desire is nothing but vegitables! I think that your perceptions change with age. Am l right Sirs?
@sureshgaikwad5004
2 жыл бұрын
You can live your life without desiring. You just act for issue in front of you. Your actions in the present will take fruit. What is the need of desiring which is future.
so.. how do we live with desires?
@AlDo-kw7sc
Жыл бұрын
With conflict
@AlDo-kw7sc
Жыл бұрын
The "how" means control. Living without controlling it leads to it revealing itself as it actually is. Means we are holding an idea, projecting an ending of, that is to be attained and so on.
@Oouri.0.2.0
Жыл бұрын
@@AlDo-kw7sc so let's say when desire arise, notice them but not actually go get a donut?
I thik this is not a full video.
@KFoundation
2 жыл бұрын
It's an extract from the seventh conversation with Allan W. Anderson in San Diego, 1974.
Can some explain me what he means by the step of contact on the creation of desire?
@ritesharora6032
2 жыл бұрын
step of contact is when you touch,see, smell the car, clothes etc
@Pradoceleste
2 жыл бұрын
Everything starts with the senses. After the sensation there is the contact with the thing. Then, the sensation is transformed in the brain, so the mind realizes it. And then, thought says: I want this, I want to have it. That is desire. Krishna said that when there is a center between an object and the observer, desire takes place. I hope you can understand it.
@anasoftmarine
2 жыл бұрын
Because it is Immortal
@anasoftmarine
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, this comment was for another comment 🙏
@7Denial7
2 жыл бұрын
@@ritesharora6032 But then how is it different from the first step - perception?
is our freewill a desire?
@anestos2180
2 жыл бұрын
yes will is desire or form of desire that's why it will never be free.
@Bebaskemanasaja
2 жыл бұрын
No
@user-uy7ez1uo7y
Жыл бұрын
Free will is an illusion!
I wont blame myself for being distracted by such a pair of eyebrows
@vanessapetrea2490
9 ай бұрын
😆😅
Blistering mind
I have a huge desire to have sex with women, but it never happened because of some fears of approaching women. I'm 31 and the desire is so strong, don't know what to do with it anymore.
I understand the process of desire formation, and why it is absurd to control desire through this talk... But what I don't understand is if desire is not to be controlled, how else do we act on it? Example: desire for sexual gratification is present in all and it absurd to control it... So what do we do with it? Gratify it? Anyone please enlighten... How do we live with it
@AlDo-kw7sc
Жыл бұрын
The thing that "does something with it", is part the it. This way(doing), leads to control, suppression or achieving release, etc., so is it to not do anything(?) Dont do, dont not do....surely it is to question the doing in relation to(thought) that the fellow is on about.
I am a medical student, currently in 3rd year of mbbs.This wasn't my interest but I had taken this stream because of great selfish purpose.I have not been liking this field since 1st year but was tolerating it.after listening Krishnamurti ji I have realised that I have done a total blunder with my life. I am totally wasting my energy.the energy which requires for total action,seems to be impossible with this field for me.what should I do?
@shreyanshukumar9033
2 жыл бұрын
Don't quit. Try to seek balance. Peace within is possible, indifferent from the chaos outside. Read "commentaries on living" by K. It'll help.
@chandrakiranbolla6583
2 жыл бұрын
Firstly accept yourself and just look at taking the mbbs in other perspective (in some one as who really love mbbs ) get to know things about mbbs and even after that you don't find it worthy then you can decide
Why you are repeating this video.
@anasoftmarine
2 жыл бұрын
Because it is immortal
@serenity1328
2 жыл бұрын
you have choices
@cosmosworld1214
2 ай бұрын
Because you repeating 😂😂😂😂😂 that's I repeating 😅😅😅😅 ok
See what takes place..? We're is the ending..? LoL 🤷 JK at his best..🙈
His "you follow" is so irritating 😢
Nonsense
This is a very weak presentation by JK. A lot of unnecessary stories & talking, compared to all other previous presentations.
Thank you
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