Awesome video guys. Loving the Ranger Raptor content ! Kase and Tommy are killing it in these videos, always fun watch with these guys. Great start to my Sunday morning. Keep up the great work!

I love that this channel doesn't abuse the classic, but importantly I also love that they have fun with them. You can tell that they care about the vehicles and dont want them to get damaged, but also the cars exist to be used. The balance is about right on TFL

@brazenhammer3307

Ай бұрын

right there's so many channels out there that destroy classics

@petersankus6872

23 күн бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree. They don't baby em which I like. But they're not sadistic either

@1CharlieWolf

16 күн бұрын

i stopped watching whistlingdiesel because he destroyed a model t

Well the size of the bed hasn't changed much

@marginis

Ай бұрын

It is less of a difference than you'd expect.

@CrunchyStingray

Ай бұрын

If anything the Ford pickup beds have been decreasing in length over the past few decades. I still remember when 8 foot beds were normal with all single cabs and some crew cabs.

@jimmym3352

Ай бұрын

My Ram had an 8 foot bed and my current Tacoma has a 6'1" bed. I simply won't buy these girly trucks. I say girly because trucks aren't meant to be family vehicles. Sorry if I get annoyed. I'm like, I don't have kids, so why do I need a back seat for kids?

@Hybris51129

Ай бұрын

@@CrunchyStingray Now you can't buy a new F150 with a 8ft unless it is an absolute fleet stripper truck.

@Mixwell1983

Ай бұрын

​​@@jimmym3352the reality is trucks are more versatile now than ever. I do have a family, i live in the country and have to take my trash to the dump and need the bed space. I have a crew cab Nissan Titan and it can haul 6 people and I have used it to pickup my new couches when I moved to TN, hauled a bulk gravel bag for my firepit are etc . I get older single cab trucks are cool but to be honest even with a crew cab people currently aren't really putting the full bed size to use. I also hauled both my new Honda atvs from the dealer in the back of my truck. In this era why be confined to a minivan or SUV? Sure they can haul. Lot but you're not fitting a full sized grill, water heater or sheets of plywood comfortably. Crew cab half tons have the versatility of hauling people plus whatever else in one shot and of you wanted a cunty rebuttle people could say your tacoma is a pussified version of the old SR5 midsized Toyota trucks with long beds.. It's all about practicality. If i were single id be down to own a single cab with 8foot bed but reality is they're hard to find on a lot. When I was a teen into early 20s i had a ranger with a 6ft bed and it was fine because i was single and Ranger didn't offer a crew cab in the US.. i hauler maybe 3 adults up front and that was it . I had an extended cab but my subwoofers were in the back. Calling trucks girly while owning a 1/4 ton is pretty ironic. I loved my little 2001 ranger, at one point hauled 4 adults but had to take my subwoofers out and use the jump seats.. id hate to be in the back of that little extended cab area.. it can me done but should it have been? I don't know😂😂

I'll take an older vehicle without all the electronics that ruin the experience and try to control your driving over the new one any day.

@rjejames28

23 күн бұрын

Get the cheap Nissan

The old truck is a better shade of red.

@mordechaitaub3594

20 күн бұрын

The old truck is also better looking!

@ABTeggdog1232

16 күн бұрын

Nah it doesnt look better

@mordechaitaub3594

16 күн бұрын

@TheRealLeggy What's that supposed to mean? Of course, it looks better. The vehicles that are made these days are not beautiful vehicles. They all look the same. So I don't get what you mean by it doesn't look nice.

@ABTeggdog1232

16 күн бұрын

@@mordechaitaub3594 it still looks nice but i thing the new ones look better but thats my opinion

@johndavidson3424

16 күн бұрын

@@joezephyr Brighter(better looking) not better shade.

Content suggestions: Compare the model A to a 2wd quarter ton truck on street tires. Compare an old Marmon Herrington 4wd to a modern 4x4 truck. Install a model A snowmobile kit on the truck and compare it to a modern truck snow wheeling.

I'd still rather have the old one.

That old truck bed was good for hauling items but better for square bails of hay. It could hold a lot of square bails.

The Model A will last longer..... and be more reliable..

@Linguiniqc

Ай бұрын

They were not reliable at all, i knew someone that got one.. they have to bring a tool kit with them and a new kit of headgasket for only doing 1000km!!

@Johnbeere

Ай бұрын

@@Linguiniqc Originally, they were extremely reliable. Maintenance intensive, sure, but very, very reliable. 99% of issues these cars have nowadays are because of poor repro parts and bad maintenance. I've been daily driving a '31 for a couple years - 6,000 miles -, and not once has it left me stranded.

@CanisMythson

Ай бұрын

​@@Johnbeere I see what you're saying, and in some ways I agree, but looking at that number, do you think that Model A could ever cross over 100,000 miles total, and as long as you've kept up regular maintenance, have likely all the original parts? Not saying a Ford can do that, but there are things that can, usually Japanese cars

@Johnbeere

Ай бұрын

@@CanisMythson An A engine originally would last 75,000 miles or so, at which point you'd have it rebuilt/replaced. Back in the day rebuilt A engines were very cheap. You can extend the engine life today with oil and air filters, that these cars didn't have. These cars aren't necessarily meant to last forever in original condition, but are meant to be rebuilt indefinitely. My '31 has never been fully restored, and has 116k miles on it. Basically everything has been rebuilt in some way except the rear end, which has never been taken apart. Mind, however, that 75,000 miles in 1931 would be much slower, harder miles than today.

@charlesdudemandude3554

Ай бұрын

I mean the proof is in the video

A Ranger 2 wheel drive manual no ac roll up windows from the 80's is pretty close, feature wise to the model A

I have been watching since the early days, and Tommy has come so far. His style and personality come out perfectly. Roman should be proud.

I will never understand why we need all these silly gizmos in our trucks today. I'd rather go back to mechanical everything like the model A with updated stuff

Not only will the new truck not still be running in 100 years, I’d be surprised if it was still running in 10

Should have done a fuel mileage test between these two

Nice Model A truck. Great restoration.

@charlesdudemandude3554

Ай бұрын

It is a thing of beauty

It is fun to watch a Three Stooges episode to see all of the old vehicles like this when they were new.

The model A vs the model T would've been interesting and would've made more sense.

@danthompson1467

Ай бұрын

They are out of touch with reality

@c0ldyloxproductions324

Ай бұрын

It’s cool to see the progress of fords earliest truck to their most modern

@-aid4084

Ай бұрын

That's not what the video was about

@darwoodfeet4842

Ай бұрын

6:37

@WrainTravels

Ай бұрын

But probably not as entertaining. We're not here to gain insight on which to purchase 😆

The frame was part of a pickup suspension until the late 90s when automotive journalists started reviewing trucks like cars and expected them to act like one.

Which one is easier to fix along side the road.

@joezephyr

Ай бұрын

The new one is no likely to break down. The old one is very likely to break down and easy to fix. The new one impossible to fix.

@-aid4084

Ай бұрын

​@@joezephyryeah... that's how things are.

@PlayWaves1

Ай бұрын

Both are easier than a GM truck with lifter failure. You'll need a tow truck for that.

@dillonh321

Ай бұрын

You can walk into a parts store or a dealership and pick up parts for the Ranger Raptor. You can not do the same for the model A.

@ATruckCampbell

Ай бұрын

@@dillonh321 There are plenty of online and probably physical stores that specialize in parts for these classics.

I'd rather have the A over a Raptor. But that is why my normal car is a 31 Packard, heh. I'd love to get it out to y'all some day, could do a Model T and Model A vs Packard, heh.

The load is 500lbs, which includes the two of you, so realistically, you could haul maybe 200lbs or so of actual cargo.

I think I would rather have the old truck (Late 60's to early 2000's), You need a 400 page PDF manual and the ability to know all the cheat codes to do basic stuff in new and modern vehicles. I want to put it in 4x4 like the old Jeeps, I want to open a door and look out or undo the seat belt like in the old K5 , lean out the window to see what I'm doing etc. You could put the K5 into 4x4L and Granny gear. Pull out the PTO throttle. get out of the thing and it would creep along snails pace with out you being the the truck, Great for digging out if stuck, Shove dirt under a tire, push it out of a hole etc. etc. No way in the world a new truck let you do that. I also want to tow a trailer without the brakes locking up every time you try to back up.

I have a 2017 Ford F150 Limited & a 1972 F-100 & the 1972 rides a lot smoother. And my 72 even came with factory A/C.

@danielhomant2832

Ай бұрын

Tires. Low profile tires have rubbish ride quality. Put meaty tires on a modern vehicle and it will ride much better. Plus the higher load capacity typically means stiffer suspension.

I’m older than Roman by a decade or two😂😂. In that time I’ve owned a number of 4WD vehicles, most bought new. 91,93 80 series LC, Havester, Subaru (Baja), Couple Tundras, currently a 14 FJ and a 23 Tacoma. By far the most capable was the 80 series Land Cruisers, but my favorite one to this day was a pretty bone stock 75 Blazer with a 4 speed.

The smiles were bigger in the old truck

The 93 year old Model A, if maintained, will probably be capable of going another 93 years

I really enjoy your old versus New Concept videos you do. They make my day. Good job🎉

@TFLclassics

Ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

That model A will last another 100 years while that ranger will be long dead.

@bluespidergaming7719

28 күн бұрын

ha "last' sure

I think the reason I miss old Vehicles the most is because of how simple they were. Modern vehicles with how complex they are getting are more likely to break down and not be super easy to repair or just not worth it. That being said, results May vary depending on what you are using the vehicle for.

The Ranger Raptor might not be easy to sources parts and keep running for nearly 100 years. But I have little doubt it will travel more actual miles in its lifetime compared to the model A. We didn’t have the same use case scenarios back when the model A was in its prime, as we typically have today for how a modern truck is used. I truly love the TFL model A, such a beautiful classic truck.

A Model A losing to a Raptor in a tug of war was a bit predictable.

@johndavidson3424

16 күн бұрын

@@jonelmer3518 Very predictable, Raptor is still a ladder frame pickup with proper 4WD sys., taking the overpowered(for a truck)engine into consideration too, they also tow much more than what they carry on their bed & cab(probably heavy Americans) while doing both at the same time. Otherwise internet has deluded you into thinking that these trucks are delicate toys, that stand no chance to a more brittle, basic, rwd, ancient Model A pickup(maybe in reliability cause it's way more basic).

The model A will probably still be running when the Rapter is in the scrap yard.

That ranger will be in the scrap yard in 15 20 years that model A won't 🤷

If I had to choose, I would take the old one. At least I could learn how to completely rebuild it from a book the size of my car's manual.

They have like the same size bed so I would take the old one

ROFL, Try that tug of war vs something like a dodge power wagon from the 1950's.

I'll take the model "A" any day of the week...Lol

I did some calculations and found out that after calculating torque ratings in ft-lbs (I calculated from HP): 40hp multiplied by 5252 over 1000RPM=210.08 ft-lbs of torque at 1000 rpm (Received formula from ChatGPT version 4o).

I think the Model A is more comparable to a Maverick than a Ranger 🤔 Since Maverick runs on Focus platform, so based on a car...

Model A is still better than a cybertruck

@applewood100

15 күн бұрын

Cyber truck is the best

@stuarthunter2923

14 күн бұрын

@@applewood100yeah the cyber truck is the best joke going round. I'm impressed on how that thing can make an old dodge ram look good.

The model A is a better base for a hotrod than the craptor.

Something tells me if you stayed RWD the Model A has the torque to keep you from pulling it.

Living should be fun. You guys are doing it right.

I would rather have the model A any day over this modern day crap

Double clutch on an up-shift, maybe you could do a video about how to drive a manual transmission?

There's a reason i have a model A and not a new truck, people laugh at me now, but they can't run their truck on pig poop. Mine did during the war.

Remember money wise you're getting nowhere near what you're paying for. A big chunk of a new trucks cost is eaten up in shareholders dividends, corporate backhanders and taxes. The new one is better than the old one because things have moved on. Its more expensive than the old one due to greed. Its worth a similar amount once you take out all the middle men.

That old truck is absolutely beautiful

I doubt that Ranger will be rolling in 100 years...

I recon with a little more momentum, the A would have conquered the uneven ruts !!

Model A with a 1.6 SDI if you want 100% Apocalypse proof motoring.

im just glad that you didnt destroy the model a like whistlindiesel did with his model t. you deserve my respect!

Loving the model a truck content. Great video guys

@TFLclassics

Ай бұрын

More to come!

im pretty sure most people who actually need the bed space to carry stuff(heavy or light objects) would prefer the older truck for the sole reason its lower. thats it. these newer trucks are way to god damn tall.

I’ll take the old one.

Raptor would be nice but if given the offer, ill take the old truck thank you! And as far as your weight hauling goes, i routinely haul 2 to 3,000 lbs in my 86 ram comfortably with springs to spare. Low gvw is to avoid higher taxes. Not actual capability.

Model A all the way. To much technology in todays vehicles, after your standard warrenty expires means $$$$$$.

Brakes can be used in a modest fashion to somewhat help overcome an open diff if done correctly

a good test would be that 31 vs my 2004 ranger with the 2.3 5 speed

Yeah... I'll take the model A. Got it make it fair for the raptor.

If you're going to advertise showing a 100 year old truck, I would like to see a 100 year old truck, *not a Modern A.*

The guy trying to flex in the ranger is just laughable. No truck guys would pick that new trash over a REAL truck.

Objectively, serviceability and reliability are metrics, as well as cost to buy and operate are metrics used by both individuals and fleets alike. So even objectively, there is a case to be made. If the Model A meets my hauling needs, then by the numbers, the Model A would be the better truck when factoring cost and serviceability. I'd be lucky to find an old clapped out and beat Taco for the same cost as the model A was new.

Doesn't matter, I'll take the old one any day over the ranger

Good old days, not built like they used to be. 😂

My 1953 Ford tractor would tow that Ranger backwards with ease.

This is literally retired great-grandpa vs his great great great grandson in a olympics style competition. Pretty cool comparrison though I dig it.

Literally have an e-bike with wider rear tire

Yes, the new trucks are better, but they don’t make me smile. I feel sad when I look at a truck built after the 90’s. A model A truck makes me happy when I see it.

Try doing a 70s squarebody

Thanks for this comparison, as I’m cross shopping these two.

"Well, _objectively_ ..." Define your objectives.

Yes, but which one is easier to mod?

My truck is halfway between those two.

In a 200 years …that Ranger will be in a junkyard….😂😂.

A gradual comparison/review of all subsequent Ford truck generations would be interesting to watch.

Now do a 1952 Hudson Hornet Sedan vs your average sedan

Me thinking of Beverly Hillbillies when they talked about being full 😂

Can you do a comparison of 1970s trucks (Ford, Chevrolet, GMC, Jeep)?

If you are WOT, you are not running the AC. Also, it's difficult to say vehicles are better now, when no one can afford them. But the modern world has been built around financing.

Initial cost and the difficulty and cost of repair guaranties I will never own the raptor although I'd love to rent one for a day.

15:40 tape measures usually have their length printed on them so you don't need to bend the tape

You can carry this amount of cargo in a small hatchback, with the seats folded down.

Your not comparing an older truck. Your comparing an antique truck to a current truck. An older truck would be more like an pre-2000s truck. Something without all the computer electronics. Try comparing a late 90’s Ford Ranger 4Lt V6 4x4. Then we could see if the overpriced overhyped new truck is worth it.

Model A Conrod beefy.

And put knobby tires on the model a truck. Then it will be a fair comparison

To refer to liter’s as the size of a model A motor is so dam disrespectful.

@joezephyr

Ай бұрын

What was the terminology in the olden days?

@IndianaDipper194

Ай бұрын

not really, most people dont understand Cubic inch these days unless they are classic car guys. if i told an 16 year old kid my truck had a 300ci six they wouldnt have any frame of reference to that being 4.9 liters or what that would be equivalent to today. neither way is incorrect and the metric system was created in 1795 so undoubtedly it was marketed in liters or CC somewhere at some time. (and its better in just about every conceivable way)

@mikeh2006

Ай бұрын

It's not wrong though

Ford Model A 0-60? probably.

yes do the joke run first but then you should have handicapped the new truck. high range and lock it in second gear if you can. even the odds if that don't give the old truck a fighting chance then pull a spark plug wire o. the new truck. you need a seasoned consultant on staff

what about the moonshine bootlegging test lol

@jeffrobodine8579

17 күн бұрын

R.I.P. Uncle Jesse

In Australia neither of these would be called a truck but a Ute, short for utility vehicle.

Buy better radios

The test should've been in a crunch can the model A tow the ranger raptor more dramatic than a tug of war that really puts the 40hp to the test

Is the Model A comparable to a John Deere Gator?

@bluespidergaming7719

28 күн бұрын

gators got more power

Both of those trucks are basically full size cars you can swap parts of the model A truck to a model A car and you can swap some suspension components of the ranger into a Crown Vic.. I mean the regular one not sure about the raptor one I haven't tested that yet...

The old ford is goona smoke it on off road

Don’t double clutch,just float the gears.

@Johnbeere

Ай бұрын

These are sliding gear transmissions, not dog boxes, with a very sensitive throttle, no tachometer, and wide spaced gears... Floating the gears is a good way to wear them out and cause it to pop out of gear. Double clutching isn't necessary when upshifting, though, just got to time it right.

How about the price difference?

@jeffrobodine8579

17 күн бұрын

Adjusted for inflation of course.

Even though this is a really fun classic new vs old style video, there is an excellent informative review of the Ranger Raptor included in this video. I was happy to see we finally got Kase’s behind the wheel take on the Ranger Raptor. Since I know Kase is a truck guy, I was curious what he thought about it. I have quite a few trucks myself including a new Ranger Raptor. I agree, it is just a crazy fun truck to drive. As Tommy was saying it really does everything really well.

I would rather have the beautiful old truck, although i already have a newer RAM.