Me noticing this video is labeled for middle school but I'm watching it before reading about the engineering in my 200-level college geology course WOW. Absolutely blessed middle schoolers! And me--I need AV info delivery before I can comprehend text so thank you!!

Damn fine video👍👍. I’m a river towboat captain that has passed this area quite a few times and have noticed that the river is slowly winning the war there.

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

The River always wins. We just think we can delay the inevitable.

Great video friend! Very thorough presentation and extremely educational! Thanks for taking the time to create it!

I think these vids might be made for school kids but they're very well done. I love learning about things like this.

I was middle school aged when I was riding on a bridge across Atchafalaya and my dad told me that this was the once and future course of the Mississippi River. I was fascinated by the idea that the Mississippi had not always taken the path it currently does -- but back in the 1980s in Houston was unable to find more detailed information written at a level I could understand. I now have a middle school daughter of my own and I am so thankful to find these videos and understand more of this mystery.

Very cool video! I’m on the current crew tasked with repairing the cranes on the low sill structure, been going down there for about two months now. It’s really cool to see that the river structures are finally getting the attention they deserve because they are currently very underfunded and extremely outdated. Lotsssss or pressure to get the cranes back operational and at 100% since the water is so high!

I love these videos! Fascinating

OUTSTANDING VIDEO! Good job 👍🏼 I will share this with all my friends! I live in Patterson, LA on the Lower Atchafalaya River!

@kayakchrispy

5 ай бұрын

Except for the sound

Yes, Great Video ! I learned very much from your presentation thank you.

Thanks!!! Great informative video, outstanding job dude!

Very well done! BTW you can visit the hydro plant, super friendly folks there and they don’t get many visitors. I visited all of these structures, and my favorite moment was inside the hydro plant when the whole place started shaking, the operators shrugged it off and said a tree made it through the slice gates and was getting chopped up by the horizontal turbines!

Excellent research and analysis, thank you.

Fascinating!

A really great video for hydrology nerds like me. Loren's content is concise and delivered crisply. Audio and camera work top notch. It's like taking a road trip with a buddy who is very knowledgeable on the subject. And he's a little nerdy, too. 😆

Grew up in Morganza and fishing Old River!!

Fascinating Well done

We call the last spot at the locks The Mud Hole. Grew up in that area. Great video!

Very good video ! Thank you

We met you when you were making the video for the Morganza spillway. The boys have been asking when the video would be uploaded. Very informative.

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

The Morganza video is set for release on Friday!

@missmae198208

5 жыл бұрын

@@lorencklein woohoo!!! They loved this video

Well done. Very educational.

Yes, again, John McPhee's book 'The Control of Nature" surfaces (from the depths of the big muddy). (BTW It's interesting to see that most or all of the companies that benefit from the Army Corps handiwork have not a single comment to make to you)....,I'm glad that you have added the immediacy of a YT vid to the "Old River Story"...,being there on a good day, seeing it work the way it should is somehow comforting, and yet...,what will the future bring?

2:35 Radiation fallout geiger counter going nuts!

Thank you for a very interesting video 👍

Great video keep it up I'll subscribe.

Well done.

I'm not from the area but it is interesting to see the geographic influences in various regions which give a flavor to daily life.

Thanks for the video, very informative. Waterford Three (Nuclear Power Plant) would also be taken offline if the Mississippi were to jump channels having a major impact on New Orleans and the petrochemical plants. I hope you do a video on the Bonnet Carré Spillway. Time to invest in a dead kitten for your microphone.

enjoyed the video thanks

Hello Loren Klein, Well researched. The need for the Old Man Structure begins with the clearing of a 30 mile long log jam in the 1830s down the Atchafalaya. Openning that jam began the slippery slope of the Mississippi wanting to revert to the Atchafalaya as its major outlet. There are many factors at play,,,, The TVA and other dams upstream have reduced the silt load. Temporarily,,, that silt is being saved, collected, behind every major dam upstream. Levees have also channeled the silt directly out to see,, instead of the river gently over flowing it banks and renewing the level of the swamps and even the entirety of the Delta. The levees also build the height of the river exit to the sea, which also raises the height of the upstream river bed. Between 1800 and today the Delta,, New Orleans is built on consolidating mud, has settled as much as 20 feet and the old river method of infilling those low spots,, annual floods has been stopped. At the same time that the river bed is rising. Ships passing New Orleans today are in a raised nearly artificial channel, the Mighty Mississippi. Today June 22, 2019 the river is 18 feet above sea level,, while the average city elevation is sea level,, some as much as 10 feet below sea level. When a ship passes New Orleans, the bottom of the ship is above the lower areas of the city. And,, it continues to sink,, and will continue. The bed of the river will continue to rise. It is not an indefinite sustainable situation. That raised river bed keeps making the Atchafalaya outlet and Morgan City a more and more attractive option to the gravity and physics of the Mississippi. Couple that with the Old Man Control Structures being built in the shadow of an outside corner. (Who thought that was a good idea?) The Old Man Structure,, and the preservation of Baton Rouge and Chemical alley,,,,,with a nearly infinite number of dams and levees upstream,, focusing all the water ever to the south,,,. it is only a when,, not an if. In some large year,, this or another large water event,, the Mississippi is headed for Morgan City. All of this is focused upon the ACE and Mother Nature. The ACE has saved farmers fields and cities upstream, dams to prevent flooding, levees upon levees,, clearing 30 mile log jams,, and all of it points to an acceleration of the difference between the Miss and the Atchafalaya. I would begin moving infrastructure to the Atchafalaya,, today.

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

Have you seen my video on the History of Engineering Old River? I discuss all of what you mentioned. Thanks for watching and sharing!

@Sailor376also

5 жыл бұрын

@@lorencklein I'll look. This is the first of yours I've run across. An interesting water year, both sides of the Continental Divide. There is still a substantial snow pack above 11,000 feet in Colorado. My interest has been rather small, personal. I spent about 6 weeks in a canoe mostly in Utah this spring. San Juan, Green, Colorado.

good fishing rite there we used to snag at the hydroplant before the game wardens started to run us out of there

@DrTaterTot

Жыл бұрын

You can see them hopping out of the water when he zooms in haha

Cities, structures, and billions of dollars of industry and commerce all built around a fragile unpredictable environment, brilliant.

"It's no Hoover Dam." Me: "Laughs in Grand Coulee."

For a very informative essay on Old River and the control structures, see John McPhee's book, The Control of Nature. FWIW, New Orleans is considered to be in the ocean domain, and McPhee says it is not a matter of if the control structures fail, but when.

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

His essay is what got me interested in Old River years ago when I stumbles on it online. At the end of my series I'm going to do a quick wrap-up and list some more reading materials and that's the first resource I'm going to talk about. It's really good.

@vilstef6988

5 жыл бұрын

@@lorencklein McPhee is the gold standard of nonfiction. Any book with his name on it is worth reading. Most of his books consist of indepth essays, some of which I've read a dozen times or more. Someone who just wants to get acquainted with McPhee's writing should read The John McPhee Reader and The Second John McPhee Reader.

@broderickheims2200

5 жыл бұрын

@@lorencklein Harold Fisk's report/study from 1952 provides plenty of information on this subject as well. So does the Louisiana Water Resources Research Institute study of 1980. Eventually what Fisk outlined as the "Project Flood" will be what causes the failure of ORCS. The entire flood control system of the Lower Mississippi River Valley was engineered to handle a flood event of up to the lower projections of Project Flood (river height & flow rate). Many of the Corps data graphs for current river conditions include Project Flood variables in those graphs. The doomsday flow rate is 2.71 cfs or greater at Vicksburg.

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

I have that article, as well as 3-4 other ones that I'll use in a future video on what would happen if the Mississippi changed its course at Old River. I found a couple others in a book called Beyond Control by James Barnett that was published in 2017.

@broderickheims2200

5 жыл бұрын

@@lorencklein Thanks. I will order that book shortly. I just previewed it on Amazon & in the opening Barnett says the ORCS was receiving a flow rate of 3 + million cfs in 1973 when it almost failed. I find that not believable being the entire flood control system can only handle up 2.71 million cfs. Plus the highest flow rate just north at Vicksburg for that event in 1973 was 1.962 million cfs. nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/peak?site_no=07289000&agency_cd=USGS&format=html At 3+ million cfs both ORCS & Morganza would fail due to severe scouring.

Very well produced video with an excellent explanation of the flood infrastructure. I look forward to watching your other videos on the Mississippi River. On a separate note wouldn't the Mississippi and Atchafalaya "meeting" or junction be a bifurcation instead of a confluence? I know the whole thing has been heavily modified by man but isn't the Atchafalaya essentially splitting from the Mississippi and not coming into or joining the Mississippi?

@godfatherd349

Жыл бұрын

The Atchafalaya is essentially a distributary of the mighty Mississippi

wind noise is horrible, Best subject matter ever, for interested individuals.

Background noise is a concern. Your facts are correct yet there is so much more to why the second structure was needed and the ongoing cost to keep river flowing in current path.

great video and gundam shirt

Great Info.👍 Geaux Tiger's 🐯😉😋

I can dig it!!!!!!!

Are you planning any updates on ORCS after Hurricane Ida, Including getting ready for increasingly torrential rains, flash flood events we're expecting in the coming decades?

Great profile pic!

You should do more vlogs that we can make memes out of.

Nice video but I always feel a huge amount of caution w/human beings trying to control the natural flow of our rivers. Example would be the canals NewOrleans have dug out to the Gulf of Mexico. They realized how important a wooded swamp land barrier was after Hurricane Katrina. I feel the same way about the natural flow of water southward through the Florida Everglades.

... interesting

Australian Oxbow lakes are called BILLABONGS!

@richosthoff7212

5 жыл бұрын

I'm a retired US Navy Sailor... I was stationed in Belle Chasse, LA for around a decade from the late 90s till mid 2000s. I became fascinated with the Army Corps' flood structures when I was down there. Had tons of fun fishing, 4 wheeling and target shooting on the spillways!

Watching this video as I cut grass on the inside wall of the Atchafalaya flood basin levee

St. Croix lends quite a bit of water also

Mr.Klein be going viral

Good show. Not everyone has a "radio voice"

Goingdownthegoldenriverandpraythemgoodoldboys

Nothing but farmland, cattle, and trees..... You forgot alligators. I'll never forget there first time I was driving a backroad across southern Louisiana, and had to slow down to go around a gigantic log (more like an entire tree trunk) blocking my lane, when suddenly said log raised up and proceeded to walk on across the road back into the swamp....

Why the hell aren't there more likes?

0:04 middle of nowhere? Nah my boy your in point couppe parish the best parish in this damn country

I think I’m your alter ego

Great video, but you gotta change to boxers.

I love your videos, and have watched I think four now and maybe five. Please don't take this the wrong way but may I suggest that you no longer make and film your videos as you are driving! Although you were on low traffic roads and you looked as though your are doing an excellent job of it. It's the fact that there is a tremendous problem right now in our country which is costing a large loss of life and severe injuries to many many of our beloved teenagers and a lot of adults as well from texting and driving! So with you being a teacher I know you have to understand that it's not about you doing wrong , it's about us setting the correct example of how when driving that our full concentration be put to the driving only and not be bothered by anything else. We have to lead them by example! So as a suggestion if you want the videos to show the traveling distances may get the help of say two more people and have someone as a driver only and you could ride as passenger / narrator with another person filming you from the back seat. It's your show and you do a great job, they are so informative. But if by changing the way that you do it by just a little bit that it someday save some peoples live or from being injured I would think it would defiantly be worth those few changes. Please keep up all of your good work!

@kanewilliams1653

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree. It's a great video but don't drive while doing it please, there's absolutely no reason to.

Holding back hell for now.

the river overtoped this structure in 73 they almost lost it i was there after the flood

Hello old teacher

@scottstrang1583

5 жыл бұрын

Where does he teach? I'd like to hear more from him.

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

I teach 8th grade academically gifted science at Paul Breaux in Lafayette. In the past I've taught in New Iberia, Baldwin, and Franklin.

Why did you fix your microphone? I was hoping to enjoy the struggle of listening to what you were saying for the rest of the video.

That involves a lotta watta!

Why no mention of the Bonnet Carre spillway?

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

I mention it a little in my Morganza Spillway video that was published today, but the plan is that once the spillways are closed and everything dries up I'll make a video specifically about it like these other ones. Thanks for asking!

I love being a nerd.

Please shut your window and turn on a/c in future couldn't hear u.

Reading notes while driving, what a chump. John McPhee has written about the whole issue in his great book, "The Control of Nature".

@razaldazal2259

3 жыл бұрын

Making assumptions when you don’t have all the information. What a chump. Gatekeeping the distribution of information just because someone else already wrote a book. Might as well stop educating people.

@keithkuckler2551

3 жыл бұрын

@@razaldazal2259 I had no problems with the content. I just was upset that this man was driving down an interstate highway at times while constantly looking down at this notes. And, the book i mentioned is a great one by one of the best writers in the US, who has written extensively about geology, and, natural history. He should have just talked while the car was parked instead of trying to drive, and, put those on the road with him at risk.

2:14 TURN OFF YOU GEIGER COUNTER! You're showing the Heavy Radiation in that area. Uncle Don is not going to be your friend.

The river meanders, oxbow lakes and cutoffs you showed in the Mississippi Delta are actually remnants of the Ohio and not the Mississippi. I grew up in Belzoni, the town in the center of the red box you drew. The eastern half of the Delta was created mostly by the ancient Ohio whereas the western half, roughly speaking was created by the Mississippi. They did however nearly meet at what is now Sky Lake and a few other places.

Like that hat but would it have killed you to shave :D

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

My wife loves the scruffy beard. The feeling is not mutual.

@TheSrSunday

5 жыл бұрын

:D

First

Crotch springs huh

There's an anime club owo uwu owo

Looks very informative and well done, but audio problems forced me to bail.

@lorencklein

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that. I've already improved my audio setup for future videos with a lapel microphone, so I shouldn't have any audio problems again. Thanks for letting me know though!

Liked the video but please do less reading while driving. Thanks!

@gigilaco

5 жыл бұрын

Reading? What are you getting at? He’s talking to the camera.

@roneagle8038

5 жыл бұрын

Fascist!

Time for a better mic

Love the information. Audio needs work. The mic's banging on something while you drive; you should have re recorded all that audio. Make or buy a wind sock. Homemade wind socks are cheap and easy. Volume levels of the voiceover shouldn't vary this much. You're LOUD... then sofffft. THEN LOUD!

The corps of engineers going found out one day,The Mighty Mississippi and Mother nature going show them who controls the Mighty Mississippi River Waters.Not man kind

Meters? Sorry, we don't use that system here.

Meters, meters, meters. LOL!!!! America will never go metric!!!!!

Interesting to say the least. I was born in LaCrosse WI were years ago flood control was always an issue, not so much now. I enjoyed your narrative but you need to slow down buddy, you just plain talk to fast.

Good and important video. But, dude, go back and overdub the vocals on those sections that noise creates unwatchable. I'm hardly one to be critical, but I cannot help but give this advise. Good job on content.

Yup....it's flat

This is a video I desperately want to watch but there is absolutely no way I can sit through the audio artifacts. Please record your overdub in a quiet place.

The army corps of engineers has done more damage in its history than good.

I kept being afraid you were going to get into a car crash. Please don't drive and record video at the same.

@RussCLW

2 жыл бұрын

Is a schoolteacher he should be ashamed of himself. What a horrible example!

6:20 lots of invasive Asian carp. Nice to watch, an ugly fish, bad for native fish.

@miles2378

Жыл бұрын

Are those the fish trying to go up stream?

6:30, poor fish dont have a spawning shoot or I didnt see one, oh we will think for helping humans not fish? Selfish

@MikeT-TheRetiredColonel

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, get some information first, you douchenozzle - those are Asian Carp which is a very invasive species to North America. So, tough shit "poor little fishies". smh

@flipmode231

2 жыл бұрын

There is more fish in that area than you could eat in ten lifetimes

WTF is that godawful noise that begins around 2:00 ?? Sorry, that's just too irritating to put up with.

Enough of the metric reference within a country that still uses non metric for the majority of things. You might as well not even recite any measurements because the largest percentage of Americans can't visualize the dimensions in metric. Sure I can convert but why should I convert back to what you converted from? I assume you are trying to make some money by showing off what you read about the Mississippi river to Americans so if your going to make videos for people in a country use their language.