The Horizon/Omni wasn’t a copy of the VW Rabbit, it was built by Simca to replace the Simca 1100. And Chrysler owned Simca at the time and most of the design and engineering was done by Chrysler in Detroit. And it was VW that studied the Simca 1100 when they were making the first generation Rabbit/Gulf. Up until that point, VW was only making rear engines, rear wheel drive cars/vans. The 1967 Simca was instrumental in VWs decision to move to front wheel drive and transverse engines in all of their new vehicles. Yes, some of the first Horizon/Omnis did come with a VW sourced engine, but it was heavily modified by Chrysler for use in the US. It was enlarged from 1.5 liter to 1.7 liter and used heads, intake, carburetor, and exhaust designed by Chrysler. So no, Chrysler didn’t copy VW to make the new Horizon/Omni, it was VW that copied much of what would be the predecessor of the Horizon/Omni to make the Golf/Rabbit.

@OG-BIG-SHEPHERD.

5 күн бұрын

It was a giant TURD too!!!

@carlcushmanhybels8159

4 күн бұрын

Yes. Dodge Omni was its own car.

@sowdiem6047

Күн бұрын

Horizon omni was the Gremlins revenge

@johnjones928

10 сағат бұрын

And the Omni/Horizon actually got better MPG than the Rabbit using that same engine which pissed VW of to no end. The Germans didn't under stand that more bottom end torque meant the driver didn't have to go as deep into the throttle to get the thing moving.

@kellismith4329

9 сағат бұрын

My Sister had a Plymouth Horizon TC3 it wasn’t a terrible car she drove it for years

Normally I'd list the errors in this video, but it's not worth my time.

1991,1992 Dodge Spirit R/T is long forgotten. With very few, good condition cars still running. The car was insanely fast compared to mustangs, Camaros, BMW’s of the same year. The grocery getter / sleeper look is a hard sell. But I still love ‘em.

@korbendallas4232

2 күн бұрын

A true Unicorn for me.

Steve is a human encyclopedia when it comes to cars.

I like the little Daytonas and the rampages

I had a Monaco, back in the day. 2dr, 383 and 727. It was a true land yacht LoL It sat 8 comfortably and the the trunk could hide 4 more for the drive-in. It was a very comfortable car and I really liked it.

@BillLaBrie

11 күн бұрын

I hear the Chrysler version seated “about twenty” according to sources. Passengers were encouraged to bring “jukebox money.”

@BrianPatterson-tl8xc

8 күн бұрын

@brentvalentine I had a beautiful 66 Monaco door HT, Red with white roof, buckets, console, called her "Christine", as the color combo was the same. Had a crazy stereo (It was the 90s, I was 20!) Loved that car, wish I still had it.

I also don't mind the Dodge Mirada even with the slant 6

@user-jx8tz1di4f

15 күн бұрын

Weak slant 6!

@BrianPatterson-tl8xc

10 күн бұрын

@@allenkranawetter9482 wasn't a bad looking car

@kevindeschenes4537

9 күн бұрын

I have a 318 in my 1980 mirada. Hard to find body parts. Love to find parts car or sell

@THROTTLEPOWER

7 күн бұрын

Yes, the Dodge Mirada was a nice car!!!!!!!!

@ScottJohnson4449

5 күн бұрын

They built it to lure Richard Petty back.

The most forgotten Dodge car of all time has to the "La Femme". I saw one in the 90's at (what was then) Harrah's auto museum in Las Vegas. Even as much of an enthusiast of classic cars as I am, even I was shocked at this one.

I prefer the 72 Polara front end to the Monaco, but opinions vary. I love the fullsize Mopars. The 4dr hardtop wagons have a special place with me.

@stoveboltlvr3798

16 күн бұрын

Me too. I saw a 72-73 Newport, 2 door, that was metallic green with black rims with dog dish caps that a neighbor had years ago. I thought it looked gangster.

@Dorthy-wx9fq

12 күн бұрын

My car? A 1964 Dodge Dart, I had one that I got back in 1985 and I loved driving it. I would get another one in a heartbeat. Love from Marysville California

These “A.I.” made videos are getting out of hand with so much miss information. This is where the country is headed people.

The little fwd Chargers were NOT VW powered. They were AMERICAN CHRYSLER 2.2 Powerered, in some cases Turbo, 142, 146, and 174

@Impalaman1968

11 күн бұрын

You're correct that the FWD Charger didn't come with the VW engine, BUT the very first gen 1978 Omni/Horizon twins were in fact powered by the 1.7 VW mill. I worked on quite a few of them back in the day as a fledgling auto technician in the early 1980's.

@BrianPatterson-tl8xc

10 күн бұрын

@Impalaman1968 yes, I just know, besides being a knowledgeable gear head of even the most obscure of autos and a 2.2 (K-car) was the first car I drove (After sneaking mom's keys lol) all later models came with the not so perfect but lovable 2.2, not a bad motor at all, compared to many fwd powerplants of the era

@jamesblocker5235

9 күн бұрын

425 hemi this old boy don’t know your facts I belive it’s a 426 hemi not a 425 and vw never made nothing with Doge or Chrysler that I ever heard of they were cahoots with Mitsubishi my parents bought a dodge conquest of show room floor what a pice of crap beautiful car

@kenik2023

8 күн бұрын

​@@Impalaman1968 1.6 I had one😂

@Impalaman1968

8 күн бұрын

@@BrianPatterson-tl8xc Exactly correct. The original 2.2 was carbureted, then in around 87 /88 they switched to the single injector T.B.I. unit. The final evolution of the 2.2 family grew to a 2.5 liter in both turbo and non turbo versions. Also, I can't recall which exact years, but the K-car family also offered the incredibly horrible Mitsubishi 2.6 liter 4-cylinder boat anchor as well. Good lord what a piece of garbage that engine was. Although they were mostly installed in Caravan's and Voyager's,I have ran across a couple of oddball Reliant's & Aries K-cars with the 2.6 Mitsushitty installed. I also caught a HUGE speeding ticket in a 86 Shelby Omni GLH back in the day. Those little critters could scoot, and with a few tweaks, and a set of sticky front tires....were solid mid 12 second runners.

Why not get Steve Magante to voice this instead of AI?

Chrysler had some good looking cars but starting around 1968 through mid '70's the dashes/instrument panels really had a cheap feel/look to them from what I remember.

Kripes ... just because i watch Uncle Tony i get bombed with all this Chrysler stuff 😝

@Chris-adams-rc-journey

8 күн бұрын

😂 same!

@jamesmendyk8546

5 күн бұрын

Between him, dead dodge, Mopar Joe, and Steve Magnante I’m covered on Chrysler knowledge. This AI voice stuff is not really interesting.

I like the Dodge Aspen RT / Super Coupe. I also like the Plymouth volare roadrunner

@THROTTLEPOWER

7 күн бұрын

Yes, those were cool!!!!!!

My 1985 Dodge Lancer is forgotten too

@dspill77

Күн бұрын

I had an '87 - and an '85 Lebaron GTS for good measure

I always liked the Mirada. I guess I still do. I did notice the modified one had a Hellcat sticker on it! Woo Hoo!!

Great vid, I would love to have the 72 Monaco, really like the looks, even the wagon is tough looking.👌👍🤘🔥

@American.legends

16 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

It would be nice if they did bring back " Desoto " as Luxary brand but strictly 4-6 Cylinders only.

I dated a lady who had Omni it was a quick little car.

@auto-Insight-yt

16 күн бұрын

Shelby GLHS?

@kenik2023

8 күн бұрын

More than likely a GLH. My dad was an ex bootlegger who worked at a dealer. I seen him drive 340's 440's hearing him say the Omni was fast was a shock.

@johnjones928

9 сағат бұрын

@@kenik2023 Even the stock 2.2 4's were quick for their day. Philly's police dept used them for inner city work because they were actually quicker on the narrow streets that the big Fury's.

So they were just as lost back then trying to figure out who they were as a car company just like they were in the 1970s, 1980s, 2000s, and today

Great vid............ I miss my 1980 Dodge Mirada, it was a GREAT car!!!!!!!

@American.legends

Күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

62 dart had a max wedge option for racing

I've always liked the '72-'73 Monaco but even when they were new I don't remember seeing very many around - I imagine only a few might still be out there somewhere today. My personal favorite Monaco is the '70 with the loop bumpers in front, the huge taillights and those neat "slotted" backup lights mounted in the body panel!

LOVE MOPAR! THE 727 WAS THE BEST AUTO EVER. HADA '71 SEABRING. 150 MPH SPEEDO. DO IT ALL & THEN SUM! BLEW AWAY MANY A Z28 ❤️ Miss Her

My first new car 1984 Plymouth Horizon with the 2.2. It was quite peppy and for the time looked better than Escort or Chevette. To think we've come full circle with 4 cyl 'hot hatches' becoming popular again.

I remember some of my friends buying Aspens and Volares because they were cheap. One friend's white (with the light blue half vinyl top) Aspen started to rust around the base of the radio antenna when the car was 6 months old. Another friend had the same car as a Volare, he had his for almost a year. I told him about the rust so we go out to the car and he pulls the antenna and lets it "sproing" and it falls down into the fender. The entire base was rotted out. I also recall them not starting well in the cold due to some problem with the automatic choke. Some cars deserved to be remembered, not the Volare/Aspen

@TactaGhoul

9 күн бұрын

I have a 1980 model, they fixed the rust issues that year, my grandpa bought it new and it was parked outside its whole life and there's not a speck of rust on it.

@MichaelRoy-hc3lz

9 күн бұрын

@@TactaGhoul where do you live

@TactaGhoul

8 күн бұрын

@@MichaelRoy-hc3lz North Carolina, the main source of rust is from getting the drains clogged with pine straw when sitting and water pooling up in the car. Most cars from that era here have rusty trunks and floors from water leakage, there used to be a leak on mine where water would drip on the back floor pan, it rotted the carpet but it didn't even disturb the paint underneath, could be the TT4 tan paint is really good, or all the water evaporated because the car gets unbelievably hot in direct sunlight. It is the basest of base model coupes, slant 6 automatic, no AC, AM radio, no fancy side moldings, VIN class E for Economy. Anyway that car is probably the most reliable one I own, it cranks at the touch of a key every time, winter or summer. I drive it to work every other day. My grandpa loved those cars for use on his mail routes because of the durable engine, brakes, and suspension, he'd get about 300k out of one before the dirt roads ate the body off of it, slant 6 and drivetrain still running good. He bought the '80 for personal use and only put about 100k on it before he gave it to me.

@charlesharmon4926

4 күн бұрын

One of the worst piece of sh!t cars ever made.

@fknbastages

3 күн бұрын

My friend's wife buys a new mopar every two years. He pulls the carpet back in the trunk to reveal rust from the factory, each time she buys a new one. Zero mileage and already rusty. lol

The '72 Dodge Monaco that I used to own was one of my favourites! And it's great to see that you used a pic of my actual car at 7:57! Thanks!!

The little Omni turbo cars came with a decal on the rear window stating something to the order of ( Don't step on it unless you really mean it)!

My wife has a 76 Aspen wagon. The only reason the Aspen was the most recalled car is the front fender rust. Very few in comparison were recalled for anything safety related. My wifes has a 318, beefed up 904 (998) with a tow package, limited slip rear and factory AC. Because its first year when the fenders were the worst it has factory replaced fenders due to the recall. Its actually a blast to drive for a 70s wagon. Its also one of the only cars that I know of that has been categorized as a small, midsize, and fullsize without changing in size.

The 1972-1973 Monaco Iike it.

Ford didn’t go to hydraulic brakes until 1939. Plymouth and DeSoto had them from introduction in 1928. Since Dodge was purchased it took a while longer to get.

My mother had an 80 Mirada, beautiful car but all the emissions junk on the carb made it a nightmare to keep running after a few years. She sold it for an 83 Challenger that gave he no problems for over ten years.

The little black notchback coupe shown as the cover isn't even mentioned 🤷‍♂️

the chevy chevettes & the honda civics of the 70's & 80's were EVERYWHERE!!! mostly ALL them hondas rusted away & there are still a few chevettes on the road today!!!!!!

I saw nothing obscure about any of the mainstream models!

Did anyone catch the Hellcat/Demon badge on the right front quarter @11:45?

The Cordova was a different body, not a B. The whole front cross member was mounted by rubber, extra rubber steering wheel also.

Time CANNOT forget! People forget! They forget certain cars bcuz they are JUNK!

i use to own a cordoba great car

@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va

Күн бұрын

Rich Corinthian Leather...

My mom had a '71 Dodge Monaco. Driving that thing was like driving a battleship.

Moments Of Power Are Rare

2:08 That 57 Custom Royal Hardtop Coupe looks like "Christine's" cousin!

Dodge brothers made Ford become what it is today

My parents had a 78 Volare and a 76 Aspen with the 318 2 barrel. Both were very reliable cars my moms Volare got totaled out after owning it only a few years. My dad's Aspen had 166k miles on it when he traded it in. And it still looked and ran good. I owned a 76 Monaco with the 360 2 barrel. Big floaty and comfortable

@jameshathaway5117

7 сағат бұрын

My wife's 76 Aspen wagon has the factory replacement front fenders and is still quite the looker. The only thing I have ever replaced was the carb (went to a 4bbl) and upgraded the alternator to a 90amp when the OEM went out. Although it has recently developed a slight power steering hose leak. What can you expect from the age though? Great family wagon and she loves it to death.

I miss my Dodge Shadow.

My fav was a 1956 Plymouth Fury

Dodge Had Good Styling Through The Years, I Think 😊

Ain’t but one thing catch a mopar that’s another mopar

I had a 1969 2 door 318 Monaco it could race and cruise 😅

Never seen or heard of the Mirada

@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va

Күн бұрын

I thought that was the Magnum!

Dodge Dustang?

12:16 that would be 2005 Dodge Magnum being the first rear wheel drive perfomance car after the Mirada.

I did on a 1981 Ommi miser. What came with the Volkswagen 4 cylinder

I am so friggin frustrated with these AI generated narrated videos! I AM BLOCKING YOU!!!

@American.legends

15 күн бұрын

Why is that?

@willythewave

15 күн бұрын

@@American.legends I HATE THE AI VOICE!!!

@American.legends

15 күн бұрын

it's true I'm using AI voice, but there is a human behind every aspect of this video, plus a voice-over artiste would cost me A LOT for a 14 minutes video, maybe in the future when the channel grows more.

@willythewave

15 күн бұрын

@@American.legends Well thank you for your honesty. I didn`t block you. I still HATE AI. I love you I hope you know. Im just frustrated with the world. I apollogize.

@American.legends

15 күн бұрын

thank you, and i understand

A plucked chicken 😂 ?

a cool car

My 78 magnum was junk!

@MikeekiM-vh5se

7 күн бұрын

Ours wasnt,very reliable car!

I bought a New 1977 Volare Roadrunner 😊

Max & 727= bullet proof speed

First Ford hydraulic brakes in 1939...

I do believe the FTH (Faster Than Hell) was the inter cooled turbo 2.2 engine omni (call it a Red Eye for it's time) the turbo lag made it feel like u were on roller coaster. I owned an ordinary 2.2 Omni. The GLH ( Goes like hell) was a just a turbo 2.2. Quality sucked but loved the aluminum wheel design. Other than that It was a good car (if you knew how to work on cars). lol

Bought a Mirada in 81 . Very cool looking car but piece of junk . Mechanical problems galore . Dealers knew the built in problems but told us it was something else .

@THROTTLEPOWER

7 күн бұрын

I liked my 1980 Mirada

@richdorak1547

7 күн бұрын

@@THROTTLEPOWER I liked mine. It liked no one .

@THROTTLEPOWER

7 күн бұрын

@@richdorak1547 I understand..... Most people I know didn't have good luck with theirs. I think I was lucky to have a good one.

@MikeekiM-vh5se

7 күн бұрын

The only issue were the lean burn /spark control computer..Easy and simple to swap over back then for 450 as today a new kit for that is $200..Engines/transmissions/suspensions/electrical were bulletproof.

@THROTTLEPOWER

6 күн бұрын

@@MikeekiM-vh5se 👍👍

The stupidity going on with American Legends caused me to take back my "Like." A complete trashing of the 3-door version of Chrysler's L-Platform cars, like they are the worst machinery ever built. Then a total glorification of the 5-door version of Chrysler's L-Platform cars, for the version with a little more power and glossy decals. The truth is all of the L-Bodies were good cars and even better when Chrysler got their own American engine into them. The L-Body cars shouldn't even be on the list here because millions of past owners never forgot how much they loved theirs.

2:32 Those aren't quad headlights. The seven-inch dual-function headlights are placed under a brow-type leading edge of the fender with a much smaller parking/turn signal lens in an attempt to mimic the quad light appearance. Some DeSoto, Chrysler, and Imperial cars were equipped with quads as an option in some markets where they were legal, but no '57 Dodges or Plymouths were so equipped.

@TheCrazyMoparDude68

14 күн бұрын

That is exactly what he said in the video, listen to it again. He said that the new body style ushered in quad lights, but not until 1958 when quad headlights became legal in all states. The designers knew this and when they designed the front end in 57, they did so in a way that quad headlights could be used in 58 with very little modifications. All that was needed was a different cover plate for the quad headlight setup. And he even points out that, at 2:32, these are not quad headlights but the larger headlight with a smaller turn signal.

the Horizon was european Car of the year 1979

The fact that this bot keeps talking about the torsion bar suspension being so great, also doesn't mention until way later that it was a nightmare and overall gave a horrible ride.

@hughbarton5743

6 күн бұрын

Between bizarre A1 mispronounced common words, the " scholarship " plays fast and loose with the facts, and these folks will not hesitate to putting out any random footage:, as long as it shows an old car, any old car... Yuck.

@jameshathaway5117

7 сағат бұрын

Thats why the torsion suspensions are still available in kit form for hot rods right? Because they were so terrible... My wife's 76 Aspen wagon rides like a dream and eats speed bumps. My best friend and I since high school spent 6 years worth of weekends building his 65 barracuda up from a stripped basket case and other than the PITA to replace the bushings on the torsion bars it has been great. After we shortened a Ford 8.8 rear for it we were able to level the car with a ratchet in about 20 mins. Even my 02 Durango had the same style torsion bar suspension and I have never had a problem with one in my life.

57 Custom Royal is sweet

Forgot all about the Lancer, cuz Lancer was the answer to the compact car... Dodge's version of Valiant...

Definition of DODGE =To avoid 😂 Plymouth Turismo long forgotten.

8:44 Volkswagen didn't make the motor for this did they?

@BrianPatterson-tl8xc

15 күн бұрын

Only in later years

@bikingD

15 күн бұрын

Only the first Omnis most Chargers had 2.2 and 2.2 Turbos that were Chrysler made.

@MikeekiM-vh5se

7 күн бұрын

78-81 it was a VW engine but Chrysler made their own 2.2 starting in 1981.

@MikeekiM-vh5se

7 күн бұрын

@@bikingD Nope from 78-81 they used a VW engine but 81-90 they used a Chrysler 2.2 and 84-87 you could get the 2 versions of the 2.2 Turbo and a high output non turbo 2.2

@bikingD

7 күн бұрын

@@MikeekiM-vh5se Except those were not Chargers those years they were Omni O24's

I think my Aspen was recalled six times, for stuff like battery acid dripping on brake lines, carburetor fails at high speed, etc. One of the struts broke loose and the left front tire bounced like a basketball. Not my favorite car.

@jameshathaway5117

7 сағат бұрын

What year was it? I thought 76 would have been the worst but my wife's has been pretty damn trouble free with the recall swapped fenders. Then again it does have a 4bbl swap so carb problems from the OEM 2bbl carb wouldn't be something we would know about.

Way too many inaccuracies in this video to list, so I'll limit mytself to just one for a change. Or I'll at least try anyway... That part about the 1975 Charger, when you went off on some weird tangent and brought up the subject of the several years later FWD Charger... The FWD Charger NEVER had anything whatsoever to do with Volkswagen. The 1.7L VW engine was only used on the Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon for, as far as I know, only the base models and from '79 through '82. For 1981, the Charger wasn't even its own model yet and was revived only as a "performance" package for the Omni 024, which among other things, got you the Chrysler Corp. 2.2L engine. This is where I get a little fuzzy on things, but I believe the 024/Charger package was spun off of the Omni for 1983 with the 024 designation being dropped altogether and the Charger being sold as its own model, while the Omni soldiered on as its own model. These Chargers weren't hideous either. Overall, they were actually well received and were pretty stylish for the era. Some of the previous gearheads weren't too thrilled about them, but that was more to do with using the Charger name on a four cylinder powered car than with the car itself. You got the '75 and '81 Chargers backwards too. It's actually the '75 Charger that should be the forgotten one.

Wouldn't a Silver Charger Package be different from A Model named Charger??

@jameshathaway5117

7 сағат бұрын

Technically the barracuda started as a valiant package so... 🤷 Dodge has a long history of doing that.

forgotten never been to Carlisle huh????????????????

I hate when they use AI to narrate these videos. It's cubic inches, not C I

1972 dodge monaco nice it's fuelsage not c body.

@MikeekiM-vh5se

7 күн бұрын

It is a C body....C body is the frame classification..Fuselage is the body style that people called it ,like the 68-74 Charger is a B body but people call them a Coke Bottle styling.

Aye, can we get human voices back. Hate these AI voiceovers. Love the video, hate the voice.

If you're going to use an AI narrator, please proofread your script and take into account how the narrator will pronounce your abbreviations and initialisms.

@deathwrenchcustom

3 күн бұрын

They don't care. It still gets views, and your comment and mine both contribute to the engagement numbers. KZread is becoming mostly garbage.

Like all makes, there are some models time didn't forget just they were just so ugly not many choose to remember. And Dodge had their winners also.

this is why we need the dislike bar back

Do the commentary yourself - it's apparent that it's AI doing the work. Otherwise, interesting.

Another AI video that has some untruths in it

That Mirada would've been a cool low rider

Steve is not an expert he gets his facts wrong all the time

@eugenepiurkowski5439

10 күн бұрын

Really? Pray tell! I find him very accurate. He does his research and shows the catalogues etc.

@MikeekiM-vh5se

7 күн бұрын

@@eugenepiurkowski5439 You dont know about Mopar then as even a lot of catalogues are wrong...This is full of wrong/fake information.

@eugenepiurkowski5439

6 күн бұрын

@@MikeekiM-vh5se Yep, maybe they were only 99% accurate because of a typo or running change.

How about having a real person narrate these videos instead of a computer or AI or whatever the hell they use.

Ai is awesome….NOT

A.I. sucks.

Here's some advice. Stop wasting time with AI narrating. It f@ckin sucks. If you do your research on the topic, do the narration, too. If you can't English, get someone who can. Just no AI, please. It will ruin what you are trying to build

Text to Talk shorts/reels/videos are auto disliked by me, especially in this generic dumb voice.