I used this exact oil in my 2003 MB C240 for 230k miles without any issues at all. The guy I sold it to is still driving it today.

@konic40

Ай бұрын

U had a direct injection car in 2003???

@systemsbroken

Ай бұрын

My 240 was 280k before I gave it away. Dual plugs...no DI. I currently have 2 E63S and a GLS580...LiquidMoly for me, thanks

@Hosshogg

Ай бұрын

No but Mercedes had a direct injected gasoline car in 1955

@bme7491

3 күн бұрын

I use Toyota's 5W-30 every 5K miles or 6 mos. in my wife's 2002 Highlander with 284K miles (we bought it new). Still see nice crosshatching on the cylinders, valve train is immaculate and car runs like a clock.

@jamok00

Күн бұрын

@@konic40 how new do you think direct injection is?

Neen using mobil 0w-40 in my bmw 325i for going on 10 years. Over 200k now, changed sparkplugs for the second time now, no oil burn on any of the cylinders. I love it.

Great to discover Lake's own channel! He's always informative and breaks things down for lay people. Thanks Lake! Keep the videos coming.

@themotoroilgeek

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@user-ih5ye2zr2o

3 ай бұрын

​​@@themotoroilgeek 2020 Toyota Rav4 2.0 (2wd) 0w40 can you pour oil?

@spacetruckerflorida

12 күн бұрын

I use this 0w40 mobil one in a 2007 tundra v8 5.7 with 360k miles and the engine sounds better and v8 supercharged do not use the 0w20 in my experience i like more the 0w40.

Was searching for this video to share with my wife's service technician, that repairs her gdi turbo vehicle, the oil has worked well over the past 5 years and the engine is cleaner than others that have been using the Hyundai oil, but will look into the research.

Thanks for the informative videos Lake Speed Jr. Good luck with building your brand.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

That's the most informative oil video I've ever seen.

Hi Lake. Thanks for everything u do. I saw u on 'Lubrication explained' discussing calcium/magnesium etc. I've seen many of your shows discussing these things. My question is this.... If magnesium is low or zero, and the oil is relying on calcium.... I'm trying to find put where the line is that u would suspect too much a competition w anti wear/friction modifiers. If I had an oil that has 250 boron, 90 Moly, 1200 zddp, but had 2000 calcium, would u still consider that too high for anti wear reasons? Or would u still expect good wear test results since it's not real high (like 3000 or more) but a little higher than a lot of the current oils that are in that 12-1500 range. Thank u

Thank you for this info. I have been using this in my 5.3 GM engine that requires 5W-30.

I just found your videos today and I'm really enjoying all the new found knowledge you offer. I learned that the stated 10-30w has nothing to do with viscosity because of a bit of research I did for motorcycle fork oil. So, my question is how do I see or find the information (chemical make-up and actual viscosity) for oils I'm consider for my cars?

@themotoroilgeek

6 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard! The product spec sheets should list that info.

Been driving a 99 MB E320 for 16yrs and it now has 160k miles. Used only M1 0W40 per spec sheet but didn't know about this interesting new information. I put about 6k miles/yr on it so only change oil once a year. Pulled the valve covers last year for gasket replacement and lifters etc. looked almost new. Had a very slight tinge that I attribute to the original owner using Castrol for a couple of years. I'll definitely research this more as I have a 12qt box in the garage now.

@joeordinary209

2 ай бұрын

Believe 99 MB E320 is port injected, not DI?

I’m glad you mentioned this. Because of what DI does to the combustion chamber, especially jamming rings, it’s important to keep the combustion chamber as clean as possible. The logical choice is a high detergent oil. Maybe you could go over the best choice for a DI engine taking into account oil consumption. Thank you.

@themotoroilgeek

5 ай бұрын

The new API SP oils will do the job.

@u.e.u.e.

Ай бұрын

Using high quality fuel.

@jamesbosworth4191

29 күн бұрын

If your engine consumes large amounts of oil, ANY brand/type of oil is going to foul the combustion chambers, and if your engine is misfiring, the combustion chambers in question will get dirty. Service your air cleaner regularly and keep your engine in a good state of tune, and it will be a long time before you have to worry about that.

Thanks. Enjoy your videos. Miss seeing you doing videos for DRIVEN Oil. Glad your doing this. 👍

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Been using Mobile 1 Ero 0W40 since my 2007 VW GTI was new. Never had any issues. Still runs strong.

@winebartender6653

15 күн бұрын

Low speed Pre-ignition isn't really going to harm the engine much given the anti-knock in modern cars, but will reduce power because of it.

@jamok00

Күн бұрын

@@winebartender6653 depends on the cause of the preignition. if the a/f is auto igniting, then retarding engine spark may not do anything. Also if it is spark related, generally you can only retard so far before the engine is not able to retard anymore, and there is also a possibility that the pressure spike is fast can still cause damage if it creates enough pressure. not saying that this will happen, but it's a possibility compared to a blanket state of it isn't really going to harm the engine.

yes, regarding LSPI, this Mobil has a lot of Calcium. HOWEVER, Audi in Massachusetts (and across USA too?) has gone to using 5W40 Mobil in its oil service. They're putting this oil and I haven't heard of Audi 2.0 TFSI having this issue. I'm might just not have enough info, though.

I have used this oil for over 100k miles in both 1.8 TSI and 2.0 TSI DI engines without an issue. The oil tests from Blacksotne labs come back stellar after 10k miles oil changes.

@Tangent360

5 ай бұрын

I used it exclusively in the 2001 330i that I took to 245,000 miles (friend's son is still driving it to this day) and never had any engine issues at all. I autocrossed and tracked this car quite a bit as well so it wasn't even babied.

@greenbikecoWPGMB

5 ай бұрын

I run this mobil 0w40 on my 1.8 tsi 16 jetta. The car loves it! Amazing on -30°C winter cold starts. I also do about 5 HPDE track days in the summer 👌 car runs flawless and the oil looked clean all race season.

@SurfBandFan

5 ай бұрын

I use this Mob1 on my fiat powered dodge dart. Over 100k no internal wear issues detected. Lots of fast talk using big words like "centistokes" and "labratory"

@BrianMartin2007

5 ай бұрын

@@Tangent360 yours isn't Direct Injection, it's port.

@BrianMartin2007

5 ай бұрын

Also, the 1.8T is not a DI engine either.. the 1.8 is a TSi, port injected, your 2.0 TDi is not a TSI, it's aTDi. That 2.0 TDi has always been DI, and should be common rail. It's too new to be a Pump Duse engine.. but that was also DI.

Coming from Lubrication Explained and subscribed right away! I'm considering my options for my next oil for my Fiat 1.6 16v engine running on LPG. Manual calls for 10W40 API SJ, ACEA A3/B4. Mileage 195k miles. It uses roughly 250ml/1000km on Elf 10W40 700 STi, API SM. I'm thinking of switching to a HDEO 15W40 API SM oil with at least 4.2 HTHS. A 15W50 would also be considered. But I don't really know if the oil consumption is caused by worn valve stem seals or due to oil control rings. Do you think that an ester-based High Mileage oil could refresh the valve stem seals and reduce oil consumption? I have not yet tried such oils.

I had been using Mobil1 0w-40 Euro in my srt8, but I've switched to Pennzoil ULTRA Platinum 0w-40. Id like to see a critique of PUP 0w-40.

This is good info! I actually just switched to Mobil 1 Euro 0w-40 from Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0w-40/5w-40 in my 2.0 TFSI because of cost and availability. Looks like I'm going back. I'd really like to see a comparison between this and other VW 502.00 oils like the Pennzoil and maybe a Liqui Moly product or OE VW oil.

@Phuong_Nguyen_

13 күн бұрын

I did the opposite. PPE 0w40 is so much better than m1 0w40. But I may change again to valvoline 5w40 euro and I may even add a few quarts of 20w50 in there.

This looks great for my 6.2 liter ford engine especially like the slightly thicker than 5w30 rating. It's amazing how the 6.2 went from 5w20 recommendation to 5w30 recommendation the year it was dropped from the F-150

I like that it's high detergents and has just a great Additive package. 3200ppm calcium is up there the highest ive ever seen was around 3600ppm would be nice to have more magnesium in there aswell though especially because magnesium is a better detergent for diesels. Id run this oil in any port injected gasoline engine that isnt affected by LSPI and that does not burn oil and/or has a particulate filter. For oil burners and really modern engines with advanced emissions control this oil isn't ideal too much calcium and ZDDP. It will foul CATs and plug particulate filters. A low ash oil with a lighter additive package is needed here. Seems like a great replacement for 5w30 grade oil. LSPM and residue buildup due to the way this oil is formulated is 100% an issue with affected engines so I would be careful there.

been using 0W-40 in all my vehicles since 2006, used to be royal purple and now its mobile one. i live in the northern parts of usa and we get cold winters. i have never had an engine problem with any of my vehicles, or atvs, or riding lawn mower for that matter.

Thanks for doing a great job of telling us about oil

@themotoroilgeek

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I'm at small family farms, medium size farms and large operations with their own grain elevators and dairy facilities on my job everyday. I've noticed that Schaeffer's lubricants are very popular with the farmers. I'm considering trying their 5W30 synthetic for my vehicles. Thoughts?

Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 has recently been reformulated and is now API SP rated.

@Robon2ndShift

6 ай бұрын

Would this mean it has the lower calcium content? I'm looking to run this oil in some truck Ecoboost engines.

@albertcklau

6 ай бұрын

Yes, I can confirm it is now SP rated and I just put it in a 991.2 C4S. SP rated means it must have passed the LSPI test, right?

@bcubed72

5 ай бұрын

Ah. So weak, low SAPS with ZDDP a distant memory? Thanks, but no thanks. I'll keep putting Diesel oil in my flat-tappet gasser; specifically oil that meets Ford's more stringent cam wear rules. Everybody scared about the cat...don't let the oil into the combustion chamber; it cannot get to the cat to poison it!

@michael931

5 ай бұрын

Did they change the 5W-40 also?

@chrisbradley3224

5 ай бұрын

@@bcubed72 No, it has the same SAPS level. API SP has no phosphorus limits for >= SAE 40 grades.

I have a 2013 VW Direct Injection engine with 209,000 current miles that I've owned since new. I've been using M1 0w-40 for nearly the life of the engine. I'm glad to hear it has a good friction modifier package, but laughed (at myself) when this video mentioned it wasn't recommended for DI engines. Early oil changes were done by the dealer per the service package that came with the car. After than time, I began using M1 0w-40. At about 100K miles or so I tested a no-name brand synthetic in a 5w-30 offering for several oil changes and noticed the engine began using a little oil consistently. After confirming this was repetitive, I switched back to the 0w-40 at about 130K miles and found that I could drive 7500-8000 (mostly highway) before I used a quart. I've been using M1 0w-40 oil ever since. At 209k now, the engine burns 1 quart ever 6-7k miles. I usually top it off, drive another 1k or so miles and change the oil using a WIX brand filter. While I don't doubt there's truth to this higher calcium detergent content not being ideal for ID engines and contributing to LSPI, I would think using the correctly rated octane fuel for your engine would have more impact on any type of pre-ignition associated with a DI engine. I learned something new here. Looks like I'll be looking for the ESP version of the M1 0w-40 oil in the future!

@mikejohnson9118

5 ай бұрын

How come you don't use a Delvac or Rotella oil. I thought those were specific for diesels? The Rotellas are highly rated. Especially in turbo engines.

@Fmandan77

5 ай бұрын

@@mikejohnson9118 I've heard turbo diesel guys running the rotella oil, but I've never heard anyone in the VW / GTI community suggest it. Just so we're clear, the TSI 2.0 in the GTI is a gasoline engine, a single turbo of course.

@mikejohnson9118

5 ай бұрын

@@Fmandan77 Sorry I thought you meant TDI. Buuuut the Subie bros swear by the Turbo-Diesel based Rotella. I used it in my XTi with no problems and it's readily available.

@reubenmorris487

5 ай бұрын

@@Fmandan77 I use the Amsoil 5W-40 MS oil...with the red label. Car doesn't use oil (other than what the faulty PCV allowed to sweat out). VW Tiguan 2.0T.

@cm.5023

Ай бұрын

​ VW guy here, all our cars ran rotella t6 5w40.1.8s 2.0ts Audi v6 and Vr6's. All went way over 200k. My previous 06 pass at was over 300k when it was traded in.

Your thoughts Redline non-SP rated oils for direct injected non turbo engines? Ok to use their 5w40 for instance? Application would be a late model Chevy LT1. They call for Dexos 2 oils.

Would love to see a comparison of the additive packages used in Ford's 5w50, Castrol Edge SP and Amsoil 5W50 synthetic. Ford's 5w50 is the recommended oil for the 2.3L turbo engine in the Ford Focus RS. Members of the forum are starting to see catastrophic engine failures during low RPM conditions. Lot's of theories. Lot's of engines with tunes possibly leaning A/F mixture at low RPM increasing the possibility of LSPI. Slacker - just happened to me! 2018 @ 42k and @ 5k rpm. No hard acceleration, no ligging, no low rpm event, with 1000mi on new Castrol Edge SP rated. Will elaborate with full info when this nightmare is over. Mild tune from Randy, aka Former Mountune Guy. Been running it for 3 years now with no problems, including about a half dozen track days. Always used Amsoil 5w-50 synthetic, and just changed it 2k miles ago. I was running about 30-40mph (probably 3rd gear but not sure) when I went full throttle. That's when it went boom.

Hello and thanks for the great informational clip. I have a 2024. Mercedes GLC 300. The spec calls for 0 20 synthetic. Also a spec at 229.71. The dealership is telling me they use 040 synthetic European. I'm questioning this now if this is an okay synthetic to use. The dealership folks say that the only reason the manufacturer recommends using 0w20 is because of a East Coast temperature standard. Also the spec 229.71, is it okay to use the 229.5 that comes with European formula. Can you shed a little light on this. Thank you very much

What does that excess calcium do to the oxygen sensors and catalytic converters in port injected engines? (I'm mostly concerned about older engines, that consume a little more oil, than when new)

Would be awesome to see schaeffer oil or redline product tested or reviewed… great content keep it coming

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

We will get to many other oils. So many ideas, so little time.

Hello sir. Great video! One question, here in the European zone the car manufacturer says i can use whatever 0.30, 0.40, 5.30 or 5.40 oils. In my country we have winter at max - 20 degrees Celsius and 38 degrees Celsius in summer. Based on the temperature all of them are good but which would you use?

I used this oil almost exclusively in a 2010 VW CC Sport with DI 2.0 for 275,00 miles. I did need to clean the valve more than I care to, but it ran great otherwise and ran fine when I replaced it...with a newer, low mileage CC. What SHOULD I use instead, in your opinion?

I like the explanation in a understanding form. And not to long. Helpfull!!

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks, Lake. Always enjoy your vids!!

@themotoroilgeek

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Great channel, Mr. Speed. I have a 2005 Mercedes E320 gas DI with 162K miles. Mobile 0-40 is the factory recommended oil. If not that, what do you recommend to use instead?

Hello. Do you have an opinion on what oil I should use in my 2007Toyota Solara Se with the 4 cylinder that is the 2azfe that’s notorious for oil burning due to the pistons ? I hear it might be good to drop down to the -0w -20 but some say 5-30 would be better .

Fantastic video! Does your recommendation against using this for DI engines still hold now that this oil is API SP certified, or do you still recommend the ESP X3 variant because of low SAPS?

@themotoroilgeek

9 ай бұрын

Yes, I would still recommend the ESP oil for a DI engine.

@averyalexander2303

9 ай бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek I'd be curious to see how the wear protection and cleanliness of the ESP version compares to this FS version. I've always assumed that the performance of the low and mid SAPS oils isn't as good as these full SAPS oils, but I have never seen it tested.

Great explanation dad

The info here is great. Haven't run Mobil 1 on my Audi. Only Liquid Molly and now Motul. I'd be interested any info on them running the 300V Competition 0W40, but it might be overkill.

Hi Lake. Thank u for what u do. I've seen ftir from other places and the nice thing about the "fs" is they also confirmed Ester, pao, and gtl base. Which on my opinion, for the $... It is a really good base oil (not talking about the calcium and lspi issue). But the new "sp" rated seems like it would b a really high quality oil. But I found that they have changed their new formula to group 3 according to the ftir tests. Also the 5w50 fsx2 was the same way. That's unfortunate because the 5w50 fs is what I was using just for the reason of the strong base-oil formulation. The "fs" oils seemed to b the exception of other Mobil 1's which weren't that great. The "fs" seemed to b a step above w the pao, Ester and gtl. I was very impressed. And the 5/50 was my favorite. I honestly thought the "fs" stood for full-synthetic and was a European designation demand to determine true group 4 and 5? But now it appears the "fs" is just group 3 like the rest of their oil. I know group 3 doesn't mean it's no good... I understand that. But the gtl, pao, and Ester is kinda a notch above for base oil. What r your thoughts on all this? Can u confirm or deny the formula change. And is it just the 5w50 fs that was changed or all the "fs"? Thanks so much!

GM recommends Mobil 1 5w 30 for the 3,6 performance V6 direct injection and VVT. (2012 Cadillac SRX AWD) It's also recommended for my 99 C5 w/ LS1. I used to be a Valvoline guy (mechanic for 45 years). What sold me on Mobile 1 was I drove my Vette through a big puddle (acally a small lake) that had formed in the middle of the highway during a heavy rainstorm. It hydrolocked and threw #7 rod right through the side of the block. The engine had 145 K on it, I also take it to the track and it also has a 3 core aluminum radiator. I have used M1, changing the oil every 3 to 5k miles. I tore the engine down and couldn't believe how good of a condition he engine was in. Bearings were PRISTINE and you could still see the crosshatch on the cylinder walls. From my experience, using the same oil every oil change is more important than the brand, as far as tier 1 oils are concerned. I have also been living off grid for a while and use generators a lot in the winter, or if I'm welding. Generator engines last more than 2x longer when I use the same brand every change. Engines will usually fail pretty quickly using different brands. All I can figure is that the different additive packages can act against each other? Usually more wear a the rings.

Great video. Staying on the Mobil 1 train, a comparison to this with the Mobil 1 0W40 ESP (Dexos 2) would be awesome.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

That is in the works!

@deezullram726

6 ай бұрын

Yep, based on what I've seen on the BITOG forums, ESP is fantastic oil! I run their 0W-30 in my '22 Subaru Crosstrek with outstanding UOA results.🤙

@johnmpifer

12 күн бұрын

@@deezullram726Now in stock at Walmart for $27!

What would you recommend i use in my 2009 Challenge SRT8 . At the time of purchase the factory recommended Mobile 1.

I was using that European formula Mobil1 0w40 on my Jdm STi and wrx engines with good results. I changed to high mile Mobil1 5w30 about a year ago, can you please do a similar technical analysis of the high mile 5w30 ? Thank you sir.

i use 0W-20 in our COLD winters here in canada, when temps get down to -10 F regularly

Great video! Seems like a good option for people with older maybe slightly worn engines calling for 30W oils since it's basically a heavy 0W30. It's pretty interesting that this oil has an advertised pour point of -76 degrees F, that's by far the best I have ever seen even significantly beating Redline, Amsoil, etc. What are your thoughts on these new API SN+ and SP oils switching to different additive packages to accommodate DI and turbocharged engines? Aren't the updated oils a downgrade for those of us with older port injected engines? Perhaps explaining why this is or isn't the case would make a great video.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! That is a common question, so I’ll make a video about the SN+ and SP oil specs.

@averyalexander2303

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek Sweet, thanks for taking the time to make this quality content! Looking forward to that video👍

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@averyalexander2303 Thanks!

@jimn.9990

7 ай бұрын

According to the Safety Data Sheet released from Exxon-Mobil released on 6-10-2022, their Mobil 1 0W-40 FS oil has a Pour Point of -40 C (-40 F), so where did you see it advertised at -76 F? By a true comparison, Amsoil 100% Synthetic 0W-40 European Motor Oil has a Pour Point of -51 C (-59.8 F), which is -19.8 F lower than the Mobil 1.

@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259

6 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking, even if the viscosity was to drift higher towards 40 in the case of a worn engine as you described.

Could you look at Lubegard bio tech oil additive. Wax ester? Phil Landis made it? Mobil 1 PHD. Also Stiction Eliminator by Hot Shots secret. I blend one or the other with Havoline LifeLong 10w30 & 15w40 Rotella full SYN. All to save $$$ & hopefully to help my vehicles.

Great Video, I have a new 2023 RAM with the 6.4 MDS Hemi, the manual specifically says to use 0/40 full Synthetic . it isnt direct injection.. my truck only has 1000 miles on it and I planed on using the Mobil1 0/40. is it ok for me to use in the 6.4 Hemi. thanks

Pre-ignition isn't detonation. Detonation occurs after the spark event and pre-ignition occurs when the air/fuel charge is ignited prior to the spark event. Additionally, detonation occurs when the air/fuel charge stops burning prematurely. Peak cylinder pressure should occur at 14 degrees ATDC. If peak cylinder pressure occurs too early in the compression stroke following the spark event, this suggests detonation is occuring. If air/fuel charge ignition occurs prior to the spark event, you can anticipate immediate engine damage.

I've been using this oil in my 2001 VW TDi diesel for the 20 years I've owned it. I thought it had the specs called for this engine. Car still runs fine and used about

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

It is an A3/B3 oil, so it is fine for use in a diesel engine. LSBI only happens in gasoline direct injection and not in Diesels.

@curtchase3730

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek Thank You for your kind and helpful reply!

@leadnsteel1428

Жыл бұрын

The oil I like is Penzzoil. I have a 2017 Chevrolet Colorado 2.8 duramax and I run Penzoil 5w30. Got 186000 miles and it's still going great.

@scottp6761

11 ай бұрын

The Mobil 1 euro blend fs oils are awesome. I use 5w50 in the m57 diesel BMW engines fully modified

@JTV84

5 ай бұрын

that's a lot. my car doesn't use any.

Ty! What would you recommend for a 18 Mercedes E63s? I was going to use Mobil 1 0w40 european

Another very interesting video. Is is the low-speed detonation a direct injection or turbocharged direct injection issue? As an owner of a 3 cylinder turbocharged DI, I certainty will only use the specified OW20 SP grade oil now.

@themotoroilgeek

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your idea

I love this content. I use Amsoil signature 0w30 in my grand marquis. I'm interested in your thoughts on the oil, and the application.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I've not seen a sample of that oil in some time, but the last time I saw a used oil sample of that product, the wear results looked very good. If my memory serves, it was a higher detergent formula at that time, so it is probably not the best choice for a DI engine. However, they may have updated the formula since then. I'm sure the Amsoil guys could steer you in the right direction if you have a DI engine (I don't think Grand Marquis had a DI engine, so you are probably good).

@GlitterGoose

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek thanks for your reply. You are correct with the Grand Marquis not being a di engine. All panther platform vehicles that I'm aware of have had the port injected 4.6L modular V8. I have some sp rated Amsoil 0w30 oil I can send you for voa if you are interested.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@GlitterGoose that would be interesting!

what would the best oil between castrol valvoline or penzoil be for a supercharged audi 3.0 .audi recommends 5w40 castrol buts its been tough to find for reasonable prices so this last oil change i used valvoline.

So got a question I have a ram truck with the 6.4l both require 0w-40. The only 0w-40 I can find locally is Mobil 1 and royal purple. I used the Mobil 1 for a short while but found it to burn more of it than the purple stuff. The recommended oils is the penzoil platinum but it can be hard to find even on line. What are your thoughts

Your channel has led me down the engine oil rabbit hole and I’m loving the complexity of the subject and teasing out objective findings based on my own UOA experiences and product data sheets vs marketing. I enjoy diving into the technical details, research papers, white papers etc. Do you have a few references to high-level technical resources for people like me?

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you are enjoying the journey! I’d recommend going to the STLE website (STLE.org). They have some good resources and an excellent list of books (body of knowledge for certification exams).

This is quite interesting. The LT4 in my Camaro requires the 0w40 ESP, rebranded into 0w40 supercar. The 12.9 centistokes is the same between this oil and the Euro version. After 3 track days on this oil, my used oil analysis with 1,323 miles on it showed 11.13 centistokes, which confirms what you're saying about it shearing down to a 30 grade oil. GM recommends 15w50 on the ZLE due to increased lateral grip, stating that it can cause oil cavitation, which I've since switched to. I wonder if recommending the 15w50 is related to them knowing the 0w40 shears down to the 30 grade, and the thinner oil is causing the cavitation.

@themotoroilgeek

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! The ESP is a different formula than the Euro version - Less calcium.

@stevesower387

Ай бұрын

I wonder how the Penzoil Ultra Platinum 0w40 compares to the Mobile1 Supercar 0w40? Been using Penzoil UP in my other vehicles with much success, but my 24 C8 recommends the Mobile1 Supercar 0w40.

How does this compare to their 5w-40? What 0 or 5w-40 do you recommend for the GDI?

I appreciate your oil analysis and your detailed discussion associated with them. But I think your title for this video is a bit misleading. I have been using Mobil 1 0W40 European Formula in a 1995 BMW M3 for several years and it has performed very well. Only after watching your video did I realize that your recommendation against using this oil is for specific use cases only, such as with Direct Injection engines using 87 Octane fuels. And others are added comments indicating that they have perfectly use cases for this oil, too. And you have confirmed that the oil is suitable for their use cases.

Keep making videos bro I just found your channel

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Would you give us your analysis on Amsoil Signature Series 5W30 and Penzoil Ultra Platinum 5W30? Thank you.

The 6.4 Hemi in the Ram trucks calls for a 0W40 oil too. I work at Walmart in the Auto Care Center and we've been using this oil in those engines. I don't think they are DI engines so would it be fine to keep using this or should we recommend something else for the 6.4?

What are your thoughts on Castrol Edge Euro 5w-40 as an oil? This and M1 0w-40 both meet VW 502.00 which is necessary for my engine, 4.2 V8 Audi. When I first started researching oil years ago I heard so much good stuff about M1 0w-40 so I switched. Then someone told me the info you just said and switched back. It all makes sense now with its viscosity of 12.9 vs 13.6 for the Castrol.

Amazing video, Lake. Could you do one with Shell Helix Ultra 5w40?

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

We will add that to our already long list of requests.

Hi SPEEDiagnostix, hope you are doing well. Rather strange question, but this oil has been recommended via forums for the Volvo SI6 3.2 B6324S engine, as it is closer to a 30, rather than a true 40, after a bit of use, like you mentioned. However you noted that due to the higher calcium/detergent levels it is not ideal for DI engines, which the B6324S is not, but I do have an LPG system on my car, so I was wondering if that would necessitate another oil that would be better suited for the engine? Generally I am looking into understanding if there should be anything else I should look for in oil, to keep the engine working smoothly for as long as possible. I know that the LPG systems are not common in the USA, but your expertise would be greatly appreciated!

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the question. This oil should be great for that application.

@intoyoursoul23

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek much appreciated! Have a good one and keep up the good work!

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@intoyoursoul23 thanks!

Hey where can I get the soundtrack in the background? Really like it!

Looking for recomendations for my 2014 BMW X1 28i. The owners manual and oil cap says to use 5W-30 but at some point BMW changed the recomendation to 0W-30. I can confirm that is the viscosity they use at the dealer for this car. My questions are should I use the now recomended 0W-30, the originally recommended 5W-30. Also, is it vital that I use European Formula oil? I have been using Mobile 1 and Castrol European Formulas but I would like to change to Pennzoil Ultra as that is what I use on on my Japanese cars and it works great. I cahnge the oil every 5k or 6 months. Thanks in advance.

The question is; Does the vehicle require the (SN), A3/B4 (229.5), or similar specification? These include high Sulfuric acid, Phosphorus and Sulphur (SAPS) and are (SN) rated. Most also have higher levels of ZDDP, Calcium, etc. They are geared toward the European ACEA standards which include, extended oil drain intervals. They are not always good for some cars, however due to these factors. The issues are potential damage to catalytic converters, and a high potential for Low Speed Pre-ignition (LSPI). But what the gentleman did not expand on, is this mostly affects small displacement engines, such as (4 cylinders) that also use turbo. The problem is that the manufacturers are trying to get too much power and fuel efficiency out of these small engines, and it is too much to ask for! So you have to pretty much sacrifice, extended oil drains to some degree, as they contain less wear additives. I do believe that they are working toward alternative chemistry to replace calcium, such as adding more magnesium instead. This issue usually does not affect more powerful engines, such as (v8 bi-turbos). So the bottom line is to not use (SN) specified oils, which contains high-levels of calcium, etc., in a vehicle that does not require this specification. But for vehicles that do, I would still use them. I would (NEVER) put an SN+ specified oil in my Mercedes v8 Biturbo.

Never have I been so engrossed in something I can barely understand. Kudos to Lake for being so engaging in his presentation.

Lake, drive a 15 year old v6 in which I use a non-synthetic oil. what is the best, what would you recommend I use for my engine.

Hi, Could you tell please your opinion regarding M1 0W-40 FS European car formula if it suitable for Touareg 3.6 FSI 280 PH Touareg First generation restyling2008? I a little confused because there is API SP, stated on bottle and vw502 00 approvals at the same time oil has high level of calcium. So is it suitable or not?

I'd love to see you analysis Quaker State Euro 5w40. Thanks for the reviews.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

We will add that to our long and growing list of video requests!

Lake, I always find your commentary interesting. Hopefully there will be a PCA Tech Tactics East this year and you will be there! I found your comments about Mobil 1 0w-40 for direct injection engines a little confusing, in light of the fact that this oil is OE for direct injected Porsche engines among others?

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Lance, thanks for the comment and the question. I hope we get to have Tech Tactics again as well this year! In regards to your question, this is exactly why I mentioned LSPI in this video. As a Porsche owner and PCA member myself, I wanted to highlight this fact, and it is fact. High calcium oils don’t pass the ASTM Sequence X LSPI test, but this oil is still being recommended by Porsche. How is that possible? The simple answer is fuel. Without getting into all the details of LSPI, the premium, 93 octane that Porsche recommends helps prevent LSPI. The chemistry of the oil is still not ideal for direct injection engines (as noted by the C30 spec using lower calcium in the newer DI engines). Hopefully we have Tech Tactics again and I can do a full presentation on this topic!

@lancejohnson7253

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek Thank you for the reply!

@buckaroobonsi555

Жыл бұрын

Very few European companies have any issues with calcium and LSPI. It is mostly American companies like General Motors and Ford with turbo direct inject engines that have issues with LSPI and want to lower calcium as a band aid fix! Sadly too many "experts" parrot what ever the domestic market says! GM and Lubrizol co-published an SAE White paper on ZDDP poisonings catalytic converts and lead to lower zinc and phosphorus limits in the oil.

@freddyhollingsworth5945

Ай бұрын

Its crazy how much "more tougher" the old engines are..my 90 F150 300-six had the same oil in it for 13 years/40,000 miles...after my Grandfather died they used it on the farm and to the feed store and no one ever changed it until I bought it...great video...

Its what I used in my 2004 Crossfire which is a Mercedes SLK 6 cylinder engine.

My 2014 C7 corvette calls for ONLY Mobil 1 0W40 Supercar or ESP oil.. both DEXOS rated (originally called for 5W30 in 2014, but changed recommendation for 2014-2019 to 0W40 in 2015). This is a 6.2L direct injected motor, and now you have me worried. Any tips for my next oil change? Or is the DEXOS rating what makes it safe for DI motors? Thanks! Great videos btw!!

@themotoroilgeek

6 ай бұрын

Thanks. The Mobil 1 ESP is excellent for the DI engines.

Misleading title should be changed to (Why You Should Not Use MOBIL1 0W-40 in a Direct Injection Engine)

@oistein74

5 ай бұрын

Direct injection GASOLINE engine. No worries on a diesel engine.

@andredanieldasilvaleite3672

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the advice

@user-vh7ki7xu7o

5 ай бұрын

Click bait 😢 what percent of cars are only direct injection? Probly not that much

@johnarnold893

5 ай бұрын

Oistien....never use 0/40 in a diesel.

@oistein74

5 ай бұрын

@@johnarnold893Nonsense. That's a perfect oil for diesel engines given it's oem oil spec sheet support it.

Subscribed. This is the deeper technical detail research I've been looking for. I use Mobil1 0W40 in my older BMW E46 and Porsche 996 911. Much mystery surrounded this oil on the forums when it went "FS" formulation change a few years ago and dropped it's BMW LL-01 certification yet it retained MB 229.3, 229.5 as well as Porsche's A40. I am a big fan of Jake Raby who is a Porsche engine specialist and has earned notoriety on 996 failures and he has nearly lambasted this Porsche approved Mobil1 0W40 oil as one of the contributers for the 996 engine issues and heavily promotes the more expensive "Driven" line of oils however just about anyone with an automotive engineering background can look at the 996 engine line and identify oil had very little to do with it.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@24hourgmtchannel64

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek Any plans on doing a Quaker State 5W40 European formulation soon? Would love to see a comparison to the MB1 European formula.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@24hourgmtchannel64 I'll have to add that one to the long and rapidly growing list!

@ianwatson3315

Жыл бұрын

Any change of doing lquimoly tests for 5w40. Porsche cayenne suffers from bore score on the earlier models and wonder if the recommended mobil1 could have had anything to do with it. I think we all know oil companies pay car mnf to use their brands , don’t they? You mention it’s no great to use in direct injection cars🤷‍♂️

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@ianwatson3315 LiquiMoly 5W-40 is an oil we see regularly, so that will be an oil we feature in a future video.

Would you ever recommend moving up in viscosity to combat fuel dillution and oil shear? I have a '22 Honda Accord Sport 2.0t that has these symptoms and I am considering this oil for these reasons.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

You can, but I would base the choice of the higher viscosity on used oil analysis results before changing viscosity. Fuel dilution can sometimes be solved by using the correct type of fuel system detergent additive. The PEA base products like Red Line S1 or Gumout All In One do a good job. It is better to fix the fuel dilution problem if possible rather than changing viscosity.

Lake, What oil would you use for the Mercedes S550 twin turbo?

Mobil 1 0w-40 is a great light 40 weight. I personally use it in all my Toyotas that require a 30wt at running temp.

If you have a European vehicle with a euro spec motor (regardless of tune for localization, emissions, etc) should use the oil recommended by the engineers that designed it. Mobil 1 is great, amazing oil, but it isn’t a universal application. One of our vehicles is a VW Jetta with an old school 2.0 8 valve motor. 40 year old design. It’s fine with high calcium oil, even though it isn’t recommended by VW it’s fine. The 2008 R32 on the other hand, we stick to Motul or Liquimoly or some German formula the motor was designed around. Same for our SVT Focus. Most people you hear from with issues on Cosworth motors used the wrong oil. Everyone else has 250k+ with no oil consumption or dilution. Additive packages matter. Don’t pretend to be an engineer, follow what the engineers who designed your motor are telling you.

This is some good information, thanks!

So would this oil be suitable for a gm LS7 engine? GM says dexos spec oils but they only come in 5w30. Track only use calls for 15w50 but I would like to find a compromise for an occasional track day.

Just found your channel Thoughts on running Mobil 1 0w40 in my 07 Charger Hemi ? 55K miles. Florida heat. 0w20 seems to thin

@themotoroilgeek

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! 0W-20 is not too thin even in hot climates. Thicker oil actually generates more heat in the engine.

@Sammydx1

9 ай бұрын

@speediagnostix Thankyou Bro. I appreciate that

@earlbrown

3 күн бұрын

"seems too thin''. Are you basing that on emotion, or actually monitoring your oil pressure (and temp)?

Subscribed. As a tribologist, what is the mechanism behind 996/997 bore scoring? Why the association with colder climates? Is there a contribution from improper oil grade?

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing. The answers to those questions are beyond the scope of the comments section. We are doing some videos on this topic later this year with the Porsche Club of America.

@danielfl.9347

11 күн бұрын

Cold start and too thick oil will ruin those walls. Too hot and too thin will do the same. 0W/40 is def the best of the both

Hi ! I have a 2009 Ford Flex with the 3.5l V6 NA. What oil or weight would you recommend for a lasting engine ? Engine has 158K miles on the odometer and I want to make it last a long time. Here in Canada we have cold Winters. Manual states 5W20 oil but I pretty sure 0W20 wasn't available in 2009 so I'm debating if I should go 0W20 or 0W30.

What's the best oil to use in my honda crv 2.4 l in a hot climate .cheers from australia

thanks for this... I use 0W40 in my Q50 VQ37VHR, 2015 F150 Coyote and S2000. All benefit from a thicker 30w oil. My UOAs have been nothing but stellar. Can you do a high mileage synthetic oil explanation next?

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

That's a great suggestion. I'll add it to the list of video ideas. It won't be the next video, but we will get to it eventually.

@averyalexander2303

Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion, I have wondered about high mileage oils too. I have always avoided them since my high mileage engines are in pretty good shape with all reasonably new seals and I don't want to swell already healthy seals since I don't see that doing anything good. A detailed explanation of how exactly high mileage oils affect new and old seals would make a great video though, I always wondered if this was a real concern. For what it's worth, I never saw any engine or oil manufacturers specifically recommend against using high mileage oils in healthy engines.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@averyalexander2303 thanks for the suggestion about the video on high mileage oils. I’ll add that to our list.

@kevinedwards7206

5 ай бұрын

what you u use in a '02 chevy 8.1 gasser.. 4x4...

@SantanKGhey1234

5 ай бұрын

@@kevinedwards7206use any high mileage 5W30 ... pick your flavor (brand) and sleep tight..

So what do you make of Porsche still recommending M1 0W40 in the 991.2 GT3 which is a 4.0 litre direct-injected engine that runs up to 9000 rpm?

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

That one makes me scratch my head, but I believe those engines are less susceptible to LSPI because they require premium fuel and are naturally aspirated. If this engine was turbocharged and revved to 6,000, they would not recommend this oil.

Thank you very much for this (and the others) super informative vidéos. I have a question.. I live in Malaysia and bike a lot . Most bikers that use a BMW R1200 GS are using a 10w50 when BMW actually recommend a 10W40 . I have used on my R1209R a 10W50 for maybe 10 times ( I service my bike every 5/7 k km instead of 10 k km) with a brand new oil filter at each service . What I noticed is since I am using a 10W40 , my engine runs slightly cooler (at the same speed) and it s slightly more fuel efficient. I have not noticed a hight engine oil consumption. Since , I have recommend my friends to use what BMW advise. I do believe that once my engine will start to consume a bit of engine oil, I will go for 10W50. Malaysia is a tropical country. Minimum temperature is about 25 degrees C and maximum about 34. I think that those who race their engine should go for thicker viscosity (50,) and their who don't should stick for a 40 . Once again, provided the engine is in good health. What do you think

Thanks very much for the information you provide I do appreciate it very much . I have a new hyundai 2.5 Turbo that manufacture recommends 0w30 API SN PLUS/SP or ILSAC GF-6 Only oil thats available I can find that meets that is Mobil 1 advanced, always used Mobil one hope it works good.

@themotoroilgeek

4 ай бұрын

Glad to help

I shared this video on a Porsche FB group and mofos are losing their minds. I dont think any of them even watched the video. Just read the title and out came the knives and daggers. 😂

@themotoroilgeek

Ай бұрын

LOL

@darylmorse

Ай бұрын

Yah, Mobil 1 is like a sacred cow among Porsche owners. Dissing Mobile 1 in front of Porsche owners is like dissing the Pope in front of Catholics.

@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar

27 күн бұрын

Porsche, which recommends this oil, is aware that new oil is close to grade 30 and that viscosity at 100°C will decrease with shear. If Porsche needed a more viscous oil when hot, they would have asked Mobil for a more suitable oil to recommend, or they would have chosen something else. There was the Mobil 0W40 ESP X3 with less calcium (1800ppm), and now the 0W40 ESP X4 (API SP), with probably even less calcium, and with magnesium. If DI. It's the same with Ferrari, which recommended Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (road use) for some of its models. Here in Europe, this oil is almost a 5W30. (2022 : 12.72 mm²/s @100°C) And there is no problem with it.

@realdeal5883

26 күн бұрын

😂

Hi! Great video, I have a Golf GTE with a 1.4l direct injection tsi engine, I was thinking to put Mobil1 0-40w, but with your explanation about detergents it is not recommend, so how about shell helix ultra 5w30, I live in spain with high temperature weather but in winter it gets cold, and I go to the mountains to ski a lot. Also to mention that the car is hybrid so many times the engine runs with cold oil, but also plenty of time I push the car a lot doing some nice canyon runs with friends. So very difficult choice for viscosity.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and question. I’d recommend using a 5W-30 that is GM Dexos 1 approved. I know that sounds weird, but the Dexos oils are tested to prevent LSPI.

@TheHawer7

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek thanks for your fast response, impossible to find dexos 1 in my country with my specification 502 00.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHawer7 ok, ask Motul what the calcium level is for that oil.

@TheHawer7

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek calcium around 3000, the TBN after 8000km(5000miles) is down to its feet, very difficult to find an oil for my car, being hybrid and running cold oil constantly and then in the weekend completely destroying the redline. The car comes OEM with Castrol Edge Titanium 5w40. I’m continuing searching

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHawer7 out of curiosity, what is the TBN new and used?

What's the difference betwen the 0w40 European and the 0w40 Supercar (spec'd for the new Camaro and Corvette)?

Can you do a test on Hotshots oil and the FR3 additive? Specifically the diesel 5-40

interesting that this oil comes recommended by the manufacturer for many DI engines. It's relatively inexpensive and easy to find everywhere.

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

The European OEM's do that, but not the domestic OEM's. GM does not recommend this specific formula for their engines that call for 0W-40. Instead, they call for the ESP version that features a lower calcium content. The saving grace for the European OEM's is that they typically recommend 93 Octane fuel, which helps reduce detonation.

@gnarlytothemax

Жыл бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek thank you for sharing your knowledge

@TheGuruStud

6 ай бұрын

​@@themotoroilgeekGM just wants you to use trash oil or pay for the dexos label, b/c they make money from it

Would love to see this for Valvoline’s “MaxLife Plus” vs regular MaxLife. They tout the Moly in the new “Plus” variant, but would love to hear from an expert about ACTUAL differences and their potential impacts!

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

I’ll look into that.

@leiflillandt1488

3 ай бұрын

​@@themotoroilgeekDidn't you say recently (?) that the ester additive makes an oil a long life one? (As the most important additive!?)

@themotoroilgeek

3 ай бұрын

@@leiflillandt1488 there is more than one type of Ester. The type of Ester used in High Mileage oils is for seal swell, which is different from the type of Ester used in this oil.

Hi Lake. Thanks again.... Man.... Us DIY tribology, wanna-be's love u. I actually have some of this oil. U cleared up what the fs meant. So it's a mix of group 3 plus some 4 and maybe 5's? U don't know the approx ratios that's not group 3 do u? My main question though is for Mobil 1 '5'w50fs. I can't find oxidation values anywhere on line. Do u happen to know that plus the other additives? Thanks so much!

@themotoroilgeek

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! It looks to be a PAO/Ester blend, so a Group IV/Group V blend. The 5W-50 appears to be the same (based on the used oil samples we've seen).

@lancejanowsky7957

6 ай бұрын

Thank u so much! So just to b clear (sorry, I learning) this has 'no' group 3 in it? It's 'exclusively' 4 and 5? In your opinion, is that calcium too high whereas it would cause more engine wear because of completion w anti-friction and anti-wear additives? Specifically compared to the 15w50. I know that's a group 3. It's the oil I use. Too much to tell about a particular truck I own but that 15w50 is the best so far. But I was considering the 5w50 but don't want 'any' more engine wear. I'm more concerned w wear than ultra cleanliness. Clean enough, is good enough without the expense of wear. But w the extra boron and Moly and the group 4 and 5.....i didn't know if that would outshine that extra calcium and would still protect just as good as the 15w50. The vehicle I'm talking about in not direct injection and doesn't require emissions testing. So I add about 500ppm zddp anyhow. So it's come down to these 2 oils for me. But I care more about wear over time than cleanliness. Any info to these questions would b very much appreciated. I know your time is valuable and I don't want to take advantage....but this stuff lights me up w excitement and u r the 1st person who has ever addressed these things w such detail and passion.... Again...... U r very much appreciated!

@themotoroilgeek

6 ай бұрын

@@lancejanowsky7957 If the 0W-40 contained Group III base oils, then there would not be the need for the Group V ester, which is present as seen by the FTIR. Therefore, it can be concluded it is strictly a Group IV/Group V blend. The high calcium level is to pass the ACEA A3/B3 cleanliness test. Remember the ACEA specs cover both gasoline and diesel engines, so that is why these Euro spec oils have this higher level of Calcium and ZDDP. Yet, a higher level of an additive doesn't mean it is always better. Sometimes that higher level is to compensate for additive competition. This is why I'm against passing judgement on an oil via the spec sheet and VOA. At the end of the day, the only thing to trust is the used oil analysis from your oil in your engine.

@lancejanowsky7957

6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much. Awesome. I appreciate it.

Do you have a recommendation for oil in a Tacoma with normal use in Phoenix Arizona? Was considering the Mobil1 0w-40. There are owners manuals from foreign countries for vehicles with the 2GR-FKS that state a range of oils can be used all the way up to 15w-40.

@themotoroilgeek

11 ай бұрын

A 5W-30 should be excellent for the Phoenix weather.

I use this mobil 1 0W-40 in my Mercedes twin turbo 5.5 L M157 Engine with 50k miles. i change every 4k miles and have not had any issues. My engine uses direct injection. If not this oil what do you recommend for my application? Thanks

@themotoroilgeek

Жыл бұрын

Great question. To stay with Mobil 1 and the 0W-40 viscosity, use the ESP version.