Have you got an oil catch can fitted to your 4WD? If so how do you find it works?

@ianfarr-wharton1000

4 жыл бұрын

I was all ways told, you only need oil catch can if you live in the city and do short trips. I live north-west NSW and the 4x4 dose 1000 km a week. Next time I buy a new 4x4 I will put an oil catch can on it.

@jimbojones2457

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely have one fitted to my cruiser mate, from brand new. Gotta keep that intake nice and clean and oil free. I use a Provent catch can with a proper oil separator filter like the one displayed in your video. They work a treat. Which reminds me, i need to empty mine LOL. Great video mate!

@timbates4wdadventures

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimbojones2457 yeah top stuff mate. They are well worth having installed. I clean mine out depending on how many Ks the Patrol has done. Thanks mate for checking out the video. Cheers Tim.

@jimbojones2457

3 жыл бұрын

@@timbates4wdadventures my pleasure Tim. I empty mine out every 1,000kms or so. And not much comes out.

@timbates4wdadventures

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimbojones2457 yeah I only get a small amount. But better catching some, than none at all.

Hey Tim , I’m enjoying all these quick informative uploads coming from someone with far more experience running a 4wd than me. 👍 Might start looking at fitting one to my Hilux

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, Thanks mate, i glad you are finding these short tech videos helpful. A catch can is well worth considering mate. Thanks again for your reply. Cheers Tim.

Got a Pro Vent on my 3.0L Patrol. Swear by it. Works a treat cleaning up the crankcase vapours. Drain it every 5000ks with the oil change and also before any big trips. Maybe 50-100mL of oil gets drained each time. Great vid Tim

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, Thats great feedback and great its working for you. Thanks for your reply mate. Cheers Tim.

great video mate verry informative as always cheers

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day Sam, Thanks mate for your feedback. Really appreciate it. Cheers Tim.

I have a 2017 N80 Hilux with 5 year extended warranty. The dealer has never given me a straight answer on if a catch can would void the warranty if I had engine issues. Very frustrating as I’d love to fit one. Love your work too by the way. Cheers

Great video, need a catch can for my defender!

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, Thanks mate for your reply and feedback. Cheers Tim.

Thanks for the video mate. Haven't got one yet. Just EGR delete cable

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day Chip, Yeah no worries mate. Thanks for your reply. Cheers Tim.

I got a provent can in my triton it works so good

I own a diesel! Not a 4wd but a tdi Vw polo. After 113,000 kilometres the egr went and needed replacement and a while after this it developed a boost leak also which was found to be the bottom intercooler hose had a split in it but once removed we saw just how much disgusting oil was in it! Which I believe lead to its demise?! I researched catch cans as by now I was most interested. I was only going to use a Mann and Hummel provent though but after measuring I discovered that the provent 200 was simply to large to fit under my bonnet so I chose the provent 100 and it fits up front perfectly. From Bunnings I found oil and petrol proof clear 19mm hose which was a perfect fit. The hose going into the catch can is black and gross now after approximately 70,000 kilometres but the hose going back into the inlet by the turbo is still relatively clear so they do work in catching the muck this is why I chose clear hose to monitor it. Each time I drain it I get around 150mls out of it. I’ve never pulled off the intake or intercooler pipes since but I’m betting that they’ll be pretty dry by now and I’m assured that the black,oily mess is not going back in to the system. I’ve got 240,000 kilometres on my engine now and it’s still running great. The genuine catch cans DO work.

Good one Tim, I have ProVent catch cans on both my trucks and reckon they work well. Cheers Steve

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day Steve, Yeah mate a catch can is well worth having installed. Great that yours work well. Cheers Tim.

Great video gain as usual Tim. 🤗 When our company was purchasing its XLT Rangers Ford told is that if we fitted a catch can that we would immediately breach our warranty. 😢 We follow the Ford Ranger Group on Facebook & catch cans are a very regular topic of discussion that pops up & its always 50/50 in favor of V's against.🤔 We don't have any in our XLT Rangers, they are serviced both on the dot +/- a couple of hundred K's & a full oil change is done in between services @ every 7,500K's. @ Every service a full oil change & oil filter is done. Our vehicles do long K's on most of their trips 1,200K's @ between 100Km/Ph & 110Km/Ph in a day is not unusual with the avarage being around 400K's to 600K's in a day @ an avarage of between 80 & 100Km/Ph, our vehicles don't see much metro / city driving. All our XLT Rangers all run the diesel management secondary 2 micron fuel filter which is also changed at every service & inbetween service. All our vehicles also only run Bp Ultimate or Caltex Vortex So not sure if all that makes a difference or not. ?.🤔 Regards Wayne.

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day Wayne, Once again, another great detailed reply. Thanks mate. Cheers Tim.

I run my blow by oil back into the sump, via dipstick tube, it works well!. Any comments please!.

I had a no-named, undersized can on my Td42t for about 20k. Apart from it needing to be cleaned out every week, it'd build pressure in the rocker cover. I also noticed that the turbine fan blades were starting to get a burred edge (from what I can only imagine is oil drops). The turbo is only 25k old so, on went a provent 200 catch can and 3/4" lines. Maintenance is easier, pressures are better and the engine is going to last longer. Spend the money early in a build and do it right!

@andrewcox710

4 жыл бұрын

@David Bradford it was because it'd take bugger all to fill/ block the shitty tiny SS filter element (only assessable by removing 6x m4 bolts) and everything was just running straight to the catch tube.

@andrewcox710

4 жыл бұрын

@David Bradford it's beautiful now with the provent 200 fitted mate.

Fitted a catch can to my Peugeot 308 1.6 turbo diesel. There was so much oil going down the intake, it ruined the hose to the turbo, which ruined the turbo vacuum advance, clogged up the intercooler, clogged up the MAP sensor , egr valve and the intake manifold. What a difference now. Part of the problem is the recommended oil is 5w30 which is very thin. Not sure if I can alter that. I also fitted a catch can to my 79 series Landcruiser Ute a couple of years ago after wondering were all the oil was coming from after looking down the intake to the turbo while changing the air filter. That started a lot of research into the cause of it. Directing the oil in combination with the carbon from the egr valve into the intake manifold resulting in sludge build up, seems to be a very poorly thought out solution to a pollution reduction requirement. Happy camper now.

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day David, Great feedback mate about the can cans you have fitted. They work really well thats for sure. Cheers Tim.

How many K has your vehicle done Tim and thanks for a great vid .

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Luke Dempsey Gday Luke, My Patrol has now done 325000ks. Cheers Tim.

Catch cans may have their place on older vehicles but on newer engines they are designed for a small amount of oil circulation. The problems arise when the egr gases mix with the oil vapour and causes build up. Far better to block the egr than to worry about installing a catch can. I know people are going to dissagree but thats my view.

@damo.77

4 жыл бұрын

@David Bradford i have a NP300 Navara and have blocked the egr with no issues. Maybe some might have issues associated with it but i havnt heard of any problems.

@MrFastFarmer

4 жыл бұрын

No one ever provides video/evidence showing turbo/head carbon buildup compared without it. The only thing catch cans catch is suckers..

I fitted a catch can since my rig has only around 8000km just nearly 2mos from the showroom. Now i have done 150k and have catch only around a litre of oil or maybe less. As I go on tru wealth of information in the internet I am now leaning towards removing it, since I haven’t found any source wherein a highly qualified engineer that has no vested interest recommended it. Im starting to think it useless and messy. I only fitted it due to some friend recommendation.

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, Thats very interesting information what you have come up with. My catch can works very well, and i'll leave it on from the advise from my mechanic. I greatly appreciate your feedback mate. Cheers Tim.

Hi tim bates have u got egr blanking plate just wanted know just wanna get the most ks out of the zd30 mine got 1 and thinking probably not good for the engine

@timbates4wdadventures

2 ай бұрын

Gday mate No I haven’t on mine. Cheers Tim.

I’ve got one on my PX2 Ranger. I empty it every couple of thousand or so but only get about 50ml or so. Question: why don’t manufacturers fit these themselves? Surely it would keep the whole intake system cleaner and prevent a number of warranty issues?

@timbates4wdadventures

3 жыл бұрын

Gday mate, They sure are worth having a catch can fitted. Yeah it’s hoard to work out why they don’t come as a standard fit up. Cheers Tim

@dolosdenada771

2 жыл бұрын

Modern Diesel engines will burn that oil. If you haven’t added an after market chip, you get your vehicle serviced on time (months or kms. Whichever comes first) and you’re doing some highway driving rather than just using your 4x4 to nick down to the shop, then you don’t need a catch can.

Has my hearing gone wonky or did something weird happen to the sound during the video?

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, Your hearing is still all good. Just a mic issue. But still gets the message across. Thanks mate for your feed back. Cheers Tim.

Snake oil product, only people that recommend catch cans are the ones profiting by selling them. Restricting the egr will keep your intake clean, you don’t have to block it completely.

@mattjackson4541

4 жыл бұрын

My time would be better of spent hitting my head on a brick wall then rebutting your ill-informed comment.

@berga312

4 жыл бұрын

Matt Jackson no worries Matt, then just find me one experienced diesel engineer that recommends catch cans who doesn’t have a vested interest.

@jamesmcmillan2656

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

will an oil catch can void the manufacturer's warranty for a brand new vehicle?

@bigfella6629

3 жыл бұрын

Yes most definitely, and especially if you block the egr .

how many HP does your Patrol got?

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, Its running about 122kw.

How is this catch can better than the Provent 200 catch can?

@timbates4wdadventures

2 жыл бұрын

Gday mate I don’t know the catch can you mention sorry mate. Probably do the same thing. Cheers Tim

@Mick_4591

2 жыл бұрын

@@timbates4wdadventures Could that be because you have one of the catch cans fitted that your doing the video about? They do the same thing and is more widly known. When i was searching for a catch can the Provent 200 came up in all searches.

@timbates4wdadventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mick_4591 I don’t have that catch can fitted on my Patrol That Matt talks about.

@Mick_4591

2 жыл бұрын

@@timbates4wdadventures Cheers

@timbates4wdadventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mick_4591 no worries mate.

So your zd30 is a crd

@timbates4wdadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Gday Shaun, Yes it is mate. Cheers Tim.

It was an evil plan trying to stuff that miserable stuff back into your engine,or worse,into your turbo.I realize when an engine is worn,it’s going to make a mess on your driveway if you don’t catch it though.When your engine is fresh,it goes to atmosphere successfully,but no one likes that idea. It goes anyway,after it’s been through your engine a second time🤣🤣