The first faction in which giants might actually be good. What holds back giants in the other factions is that giants are slow, vulnerable to missles, and most importantly stuck in rush factions. Greenskins, Norsca, Warriors, and Beastmen all want to rush the enemy and the a slow giant will simply arrive at the fight too late. But since the ogres can heal the giant and can go a ranged heavy build the giant might finally get its time to shine as a powerful lord dueling and infantry crushing monsters.

@benderbendingrodriguez6375

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair You can play defensively with Greenskins and Warriors but it depends on who you're fighting.

@whitecreamymilk8436

2 жыл бұрын

Ogres seem to be very rushy too. But I guess they can technically fill any role

@ethanmartin8434

2 жыл бұрын

If the magic system worked the way it did in tww2 that would probably be the case, but since you are hard capped at 100 winds of magic outside of the realms of chaos and troll guts is a single target, healing still isn't that much of an option. The giants will probably be better for the ogres but definitely not top tier

@whitecreamymilk8436

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethanmartin8434 ogres are still literally a rush faction still

@TheGlenn8

2 жыл бұрын

@@benderbendingrodriguez6375 Rushing is probably still the main strenght of ogres. But they seem to have a pretty viable secondary defensive playstyle with some powerful ranged units. Much more so than the warriors or greenskins have. Greenskins and warriors also don't have any healing for the giant.

23:12 one thing you didn't mention was the ridiculous speed of 66 on Ironblaster, making it moves faster than every single infantry unit in the game.

@naders7200

2 жыл бұрын

at 66 speed I think they even keep pace with empire knights, poor poor empire knights so much anti large armor piercing that out runs them

@mr_girr3488

2 жыл бұрын

from this i take it that ironblaster is meant to keep up with your ogre infantry, so you never have to worry about your artillery staying behind your lines

@TenebSR

2 жыл бұрын

All ogre artillery is quite mobile, which will be their main advantage

@dac314

2 жыл бұрын

@@TenebSR most of the artillery in TWW3 are highly mobile, it's incredible. But these and the Khorne ones are really nightmarish for the poor Empire Knights

@steevpikeman8721

2 жыл бұрын

@@naders7200 ...what the f##k? no empire knights CAN kill that canon with EZZ

No lie the Ogre lorebook was the best, most fun in Warhammer, in particular the Gnoblar Kingdom supplement is my favourite writing, I reread it regularly and still love it.

@BonzoDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Ogre Kingdoms are post-20th century and therefore not canon.

@christopherclayton5500

2 жыл бұрын

@@BonzoDrummer What do you mean, they have lots of cannons.

@thegametroll6264

2 жыл бұрын

The ogre kingdoms became a fast favorite in old world warhammer and age of sigmar for these reasons and more. They fit my play style across so many games and role-playing.

@LordVader1094

2 жыл бұрын

@@BonzoDrummer Okay, and?

@TheGlobuleReturns

2 жыл бұрын

The original 2006 Ogre Kingdoms (the grey/green skin version) is legendary!

Gnoblars have 15 armour wearing a soucepan on their head. Demonaettes have 5. does that mean a demoneatte with a soucepan on her head should have 20 armour?

@darthplagueis13

2 жыл бұрын

It would have to be a big saucepan. I mean, relative to the Gnoblars size, the saucepan covers actually quite a bit.

@DarkCreed

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe their skin is also thicker?

@theflyingkaramazovbrothers6

2 жыл бұрын

yeah the ratings don't make sense, the Slaaneshi units have more visible armor and just 5.

@patt5085

2 жыл бұрын

They have very delicate skin and require frequent moisturizer routine

@the_vanguard5314

2 жыл бұрын

More armor for Daemonettes? You‘re truly cruel to deny them all that delicious pain.

It's kind of crazy that, on the unit cards, all of the circles showing the unit's abilities are all squished together like they are. There's plenty of space on the card below it to add additional rows.

@ruukinen

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And I also don't see why they removed the icon which let you see the healing cap remaining.

The weird, highly mobile single entity artillery pieces are gonna be totally busted in the Immortal Empires. They're as fast as most heavy cav! That's just unthinkable!

@madlarkin8

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, they are good, but with the "Wounds" debuff on single entities slowing them down and reducing their damage output both by 25% I dont think its so bad. I was expecting massed arty meta in multiplayer but it just doesnt work. As an example, winged lancers can chase down and murder scraplaunchers, skullcannons, and little groms and they are only T2 cav. Dogs are also surprisingly good against them.

@dac314

2 жыл бұрын

@@madlarkin8 thank fuck

I got arsebelcher ability in real life , every time I unleash everyone runs away , it really does affect leadership

@InquisitorThomas

2 жыл бұрын

That’s nothing, come back when you have a Morris Engine Effect.

I'm disappointed Rhinox and Mournfangs aren't mount options for Tyrants and Slaughtermasters/Butchers.

@cfroelich83

2 жыл бұрын

I am too. I bet they get added as either FLC, or when they add Yetis and the Thundertusks.

@mrhelzbygrad7485

2 жыл бұрын

@@cfroelich83 I suspect Yhettis, Thundertusks, some sort of Abominable Snowbelly Hero that can use ice magic (only kidding it will be something like a Bruiser) and the Gutsman. Don't know if they could invent some other snow-themed unit, or just give us some weird Gnoblars.

@karatekan2182

2 жыл бұрын

With the current models, that would look pretty silly, unless they scaled up the Mournfangs. They are significantly bigger than normal Ogres.

@julianswinton5355

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrhelzbygrad7485 Unlikely but what if we get new kind of fire mouth units/monsters mixed with ice themed creatures? Or we just get Gnobblar piggyback riders and such;)

@mrhelzbygrad7485

2 жыл бұрын

@@julianswinton5355 I will probably be happy if the Piggyback Knights have a sufficiently silly animation

You know you're an Ogre when you have 90 armour value but still have your moobs out.

@jakepierner5783

2 жыл бұрын

That fat provides a lot of protection

@magni5648

2 жыл бұрын

Ogres canonically have almost all their vital organs situated around the belly, while their upper body is mostly just a hell f a lot of muscles, fat and bone. That's why the first piece of armor any Ogre wants is a gut-plate. Chest wounds meanwhile aren't going to kill, or even really slow down, an Ogre unless it's something on the order of a bloody cannonball or similar massive brute trauma that armor wouldn't be likely to stop anyway.

@pancytryna9378

2 жыл бұрын

@@magni5648 So basically... The empire can just fuck em up with canons, lore wise? They probably also have brains so handguns too

@magni5648

2 жыл бұрын

@@pancytryna9378 When you need to bring a siege weapon to reliably put down the other guys' basic grunts, you have a little bit of an issue. Ogre's in the Empire are mostly just small tribes, mercenary bands or lone mercs, though.

What i really like about this roster is all the different variations of the same Unit. I always wanted that for Warhammer 2 races, like Black Guard with Sword and Shield, Reiksguard with Swords and so on.

I cant wait for a mod to make gressus walk around like grom off his chariot

@indrickboreale7381

2 жыл бұрын

Or mod for his Gnoblartide mount option

@akiwi2827

2 жыл бұрын

I love the Slaan rehabilitation mod

00:40 ”Pretty beefy melee attack” says he while the king wields a big chunk of beef. Love it !!!

Going up against factions that tend to bring elite halberds is going to be fun. I guess you should just bring like 4 ironblasters and try to target the anti large infantry down before they get to the fight.

@user-fb9sm7nn2x

2 жыл бұрын

It's very rare to see elites heavy infantry overall, especially in multiplayer where missiles and monsters rules.

@quasarlgq

2 жыл бұрын

Get the handguns and the cannon boys, kite them while shooting them. Then send gnobblars while you charge them in the flank. Should work fine as elite haldberds are super slow and not very fast at clearing chaff

@pureityXXX

2 жыл бұрын

With one of their units being an ap ranged hybrid unit I think elite anti-large infantry will get focused by ranged to the point they are worthless, probably better to just span low tier anti-large.

@quasarlgq

2 жыл бұрын

@@pureityXXX probably light armour hit and run tactics might be best. Unless you can outrange them

@marcgw496

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-fb9sm7nn2x I don’t really play multiplayer so couldn’t speak to that but in WH2 for instance Dark elf armies always seemed to have 5-6 units of black guards towards the late game.

I too have a drumstick stashed away in my recliner downstairs.

already my favorite race, can't wait for thursday!

Wow. 66 speed on those artilery pieces. I wouldn't have guessed Ogres to be the shoot, run and repeat boys

@zimtwiers9726

2 жыл бұрын

They are faster than khorne cav looks really strong

Dude i just started play Warhammer 3 via game pass and I'm so happy to have found your channel. Been binging your videos as you explain stuff really well; you also have a great voice which I don't mind listening too on the back ground :D. I only ever played one of the shoguns and total war hammer 1 so I'm quite green to this type of game, hence why your content is spot on! I would love to see more tactical videos as I don't have too much time to watch full play throughs :)

Ogres are such a fun faction to play, camps which allow you to jam yourself up enemy territory and VERY easily get about 25-30% replenishment within the first couple of turns means you can just keep going. They are also absolutely amazing as spellcasters surpisingly enough between having a lot of winds, the ability to manipulate it, having multiple spellcaster types, and the lore of Maw being really really good at absolutely demolishing infantry. Also - having a line of 10 regiments of leadbelchers firing cannons is so glorious. I just finished an ogre campaign and I already itch for another one.

ohhhh i love those guys, almost finished campaign playing ogres. Their camps are soooooo powerful and dudes with cannons are superb just as cavalry

I am having a blast playing them!. The animations ara amazong, the guys with the hand cannons are terribly OP and the gorgers are nasty!

9:32 Stalk and unspottable... on a range hero that can ride a Stonehorn?!

@varengo1838

2 жыл бұрын

I suppose he loses those traits once you put him on the mount

@singularleaf3895

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember when CA showed it off that he loses both.

Ogres are my favorite faction in warhammer old world and age of sigmar. I've been so hyped up for months waiting to try out my favorite lads. Can't wait to loot and plunder with my favorite drinking/brawling buddies.

Such a great addition to the game these Ogres.

You completely missed the fact that artillery is on chariots with 66 speed. They can easily run away from infantry, actively change positions for betteer firing lines and once they ran out of ammo/if needed they can work as a weak chariot, running down routers/charging backlines - an unusual trait for artillery pieces.

can't wait for the second parts to see the pros and cons of all factions

I"VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thanks a bunch, mate. Cheers. Keep up the good work.

LOL at the clipping of the Ironguts weapons through the shields on their belly

You should do another one of those polls which faction people are gonna play first, now that its all been revealed! I'd be interested to see the changes

Thanks for these 👍

“First one up on the scales, and breaking them.” Had to be one of the funniest things I’ve heard lmao

I'm actually strongly considering Ogre Kingdoms as my first faction on launch. Originally it was Nurgle, but I might table them for when they get a buff.

@gameburrito2502

2 жыл бұрын

Game hasnt come out and they already need a buff?

@klinktastic

2 жыл бұрын

@@gameburrito2502 All the KZreadrs have demonstrated the units a little lackluster compared to the other Chaos gods. Basically the Soulgrinder for Nurgle is amazing artillery.

@Kfo221

2 жыл бұрын

@@klinktastic Play it yourself and then judge it

@klinktastic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kfo221 I will, as some point. But I was hype on Nurgle (my favorite faction) for my first go around. I'm thinking OK will be #1 for me now.

@coolkumla

2 жыл бұрын

@@klinktastic Unless you play on Legendary/Very Hard faction strength doesn't matter in the slightest, you will have no problem playing Nurgle on Easy, Normal and Hard difficulties

Greasus feels a bit underwhelming, both in terms of stats and model, but the rest of the roster looks awesome

@thraxbottom549

2 жыл бұрын

Betting his main strength will be outside of battles.

@TalosBjorn

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah like, I get that Greasus is an important lord in the lore but I kinda want my ogres to be led by a badass warrior of some kind, not fantasy Shrek Santa Claus too fat to walk or move

@millerrepin4452

2 жыл бұрын

@@TalosBjorn should you really be surprised that the ogres a faction who are literally all about food and eating is going have a leader who is the fattest of them all.

@AnarexicSumo

2 жыл бұрын

@@millerrepin4452 That's not at all what he said. He said he understands why Greasius is in charge but says it feels better when they're led by a badass warrior like Bragg or Golgfang.

@TalosBjorn

2 жыл бұрын

@@millerrepin4452 I mean I get that, but I feel like there's a lot more to ogres than just "fat"

Seems like you can do some crazy cheese by kiting with pistoleers and using cav as disruption with charges. At 54 speed there's literally no infantry that can catch them, and they even have longer range than tzeentch. While the human archers shoot a bit further, they are slow and you can just harass their melee lines.

I feel like cav might be the way to go for Ogre melee. Really good charge bonuses and way more armor than the foot boys. Everything except Gnoblars appears to be classified as large, so you can’t really avoid fighting anti large troops with large units anyway. Factions with anti large missiles like Jezzails will probably be a huge pain, but the rats are my favorite so :)

@user-sj5gd7jf6h

2 жыл бұрын

It feels that ogres roster is entirely consists of shock cav and artillery) So it's on the contrary - if you're stuck with shock cav - why take less units?

Great work

Very hyped for ogres. Especially seeing the 3player Kislev coop, will do that with my friends at another time to play Kislev. Till then? Time to feed my bois

@EM-tx7qm

2 жыл бұрын

Wait we get 3 player Co OP?!?!?!

@juandavidandiongonalez6584

2 жыл бұрын

@@EM-tx7qm we will get 8 player coop as far as im aware

imagine ogres who you kidnapped from their clans and raised as warriors for the chaos dwarfs or some other faction and them wearing full plate armor and well made weapons, it would be awesome and terrifying

@Thibull

2 жыл бұрын

An ogre equiped with dwarfen quality gromril armor and weapons would be just unstopable 🤣

@harryellis910

2 жыл бұрын

I think you just invented Space Marines

@Thibull

2 жыл бұрын

@@harryellis910 ... and that's how Custodes were born 🤣

@PoorManatee6197

2 жыл бұрын

The ironfist tribe is basically what you say, only thing is they trade with chaos dwarfs instead of being kidnapped

thanks so much for this

Excuse me but was it Skrag that played the Persian executioner in 300?

@masacar1193

2 жыл бұрын

Lol,you deserve more likes XD

@Pyrforos

2 жыл бұрын

@@masacar1193 It really was my first thought "Where the hell have I seen that guy before? OH RIGHT"

Hands down my favorite roster

FK YEA, so Ogres does still get a proper Army Guide THANK YOU!

Woah, I may have finally found my alter ego faction opposite of high elves. Never really took to the other factions, but this ohhh yeah.

Ogres vs Dwarfs is gonna be really interesting to see

On the Stonehorn, the ironblaster, and the scrap launcher. What's the new "collision attacks" language translate to? Damages stuff it runs through in the first row, even if target is unit in the back row?

Hey Zerk, long-time lurker here! Did part 2 of this ever come out? Can't seem to find it, np if not.

Players: Creative Assembly, can we have skaven please? CA: We already have skaven in the game. Skaven in the game: 10:20

I didn't come for the army guide, I came to satisfy my thirst for ogre content until I can play them too. But I feel just like the Ogres now, never sated and always hungry for more.

Nice Ogre-view ;)

A Tyrant has a trait called Arsebelcher are you sure he isn't part of the Nurgle faction.

Please make part two

The models looked amazing. I'd be in love with the Ogre Hunter if it didn't have that tusk stuck in his head.

Question: is there a benefit to using Stonehorns over the Hunter on a SH mount or is this the same thing as the necromancer on a corpse cart?

@user-sj5gd7jf6h

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. Yes, hunter on SH is an improved SH. But you can field only limited amount of hunters. And unlike corpse cart - stonehorn spam is a viable doomstack. And then there is SH with harpoon launcher which is unlimited and better in ranged combat than hunter on SH.

When will part two be coming I really like the ogres but I want to learn mor strategy For them

thanks for making these vids! I get hyped up to see the design of these games but I don't have a rig to play them so these kinds of videos really make my day. also the slaughtermaster was kind of a babyface and I thought that was pretty funny

Ogres, my lord

I have some confused question. Monsters infantry count as infantry or large? And what unit type should i use to deal with them? Anti-infantry unit or anti-large unit?

Easily the most fun looking faction in WH3. Will probably be the first campaign for many of us.

Did part 2 come out? I can't seem to find it anywhere but it has been 3 months

Can’t wait for the thunder tusk to show up

my ogre bulls only have 18 units per and all infantry has been reduced? nerfed?

Is there a such thing as a part 2 to any of these videos?

Is there a part 2 to this video. Can’t seem to find it, despite it being mentioned at the start of the video. :(

Do you have your graphics settings turned down? The textures on some of the units were really low res.

Can't seem to find the maw shard anywhere ???...also the breath spell on the hunter ?

Initially thought goldtooth was Santa

@paramite67

2 жыл бұрын

has santa ever farted in the fireplace ?

@MrCjnine

2 жыл бұрын

@@paramite67 it’s how he breaks into an entering

Was there ever a part II to this?

I’m playing ogre kingdoms rn and have no idea how to make/upgrade to the ranged units. Any pointers?

what about the leadbelchers? were they nt available in multiplayer?

Now that the Firebelly can be shown in gameplay can we finally rename him the Spicy Boi?

Will the be available as Day 1 purchasable DLC? I have Game Pass so I don't need to actually purchase the game, but the gamer in me doesn't want an "incomplete" roster.

So, most ogre infantries have ogre charge but most ogre cavalries (who would probably charge more frequently) don't have ogre charge. How does it work...?

I'm looking forward to finally being able to do a campaign with an army I actually play on tabletop (AoS instead of WHFB, but same army).

@akiwi2827

2 жыл бұрын

Sweet, had that feeling with Dawn of War

@HellecticMojo

2 жыл бұрын

same.

@BonzoDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

AoS does not exist.

@HellecticMojo

2 жыл бұрын

@@BonzoDrummer the higher sales figure and support says otherwise, o butthurt one

After seeing the new factions I hope the undead get a rework or more unique abilities cause they are soo outclassed by chaos and ogres especially vampire counts.

@TheSergio1021

2 жыл бұрын

Dont forget that they are the only WH1 race that didnt get a WH2 vortex campaign. That's how ignored they were

@benjaminwitzel8311

2 жыл бұрын

Idk, with the healing rework I think VC might be a bit of a sleeper in terms of how strong they are now. They do deserve some actual attention from CA though.

@chris9491

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe, I do feel that at least for VC there armys is meant to be weaker then most other factions. I've heard that they make up for this through there strong lord's and magic but idk lore of vampires doesn't feel that great anymore. It needs a touch up for sure.

@climax050

2 жыл бұрын

If we don't see Nagash who will likely be a tomb king, and the one i really want to see, neferata, i'll be shocked. Neferata in particular will hopefully bring a full rework to the counts, especially her faction which for those unfamiliar with the lore, is much more about politics and spying and seduction etc etc. I'm just not sure what they could really do to the counts to make them interesting, obviously a spy and infiltration system would be ok but to me thats kinda boring and not really worth playing a counts campaign for, they need a proper rework like the beastmen, but im not sure what that looks like.

@akiwi2827

2 жыл бұрын

With AI VC probably will be awful, but they are strong IMO. They have the best generic lords in the game, most of them are awesome casters and great warriors with plenty of mounts

Do ogres with iron fists have animations using them in their attacks?

I keep hoping that Greesus' cart is an April fool, but then I remember it's February. I suppose when you zoom out it's hard to know the difference but zoomed in, it's pretty bad.

I can not wait to fuck around with the Firebelly

Lots of incremental upgrades in this roster, specific playstyle and getting better at it, but not very varied.

Am I the only one that slightly blew air through the nose at "arsebelcher"? @6:02

Cant wait till they release some Gnoblar Legendary Lord in DLC so you can go full Gnobbo.

Skrag + Gorgers Doomstack. Awww yeah~!

I dont notice the gonblar trappers using their ability. It isnt castable and i dont see it in battles

Are you actually planning on ever making all of these part two videos?

Someone know what is collision attack?

Does anyone know what the hunter uses for the missile attack, or does he just spit really hard

@karatekan2182

2 жыл бұрын

The Javelin he’s carrying?

@officialteaincorporated243

2 жыл бұрын

Javelins

Boy, this fat Santa Claus will never be played be me. Holy crap. Ridicioulus

Are leadbelchers’ attacks stopped or mitigated by shields? It’s kinda hard to tell because their classification’s just infantry, but their carrying freaking cannons so surely they count as cannons, right?

@houndofculann1793

2 жыл бұрын

Ushabti Great Bows aren't stopped by shields either so most likely the same for these

I'm just waiting for someone to pull the Invisible Ninja Ogres stack in MP. And all-stalk army of Hunters, Gorgers and Gnoblar Trappers. Should be hilarious to troll people with.

Ogre Arty seems like an Arty-Chariot hybrid, just like that Khorne Cannon.

@paramite67

2 жыл бұрын

i think its one of the theme of this 3rd episode, many units have mixed uses, like Kislev one's

@sim.frischh9781

2 жыл бұрын

@@paramite67 Yes i noticed, and it´s not like this is a news thing either, the Empire has a missile/melee hybrid unit since the first game with the Free Company Militia. And the Dwarfs are pretty much all hybrid units as their missile units all are great melee fighters (for missile units at least) too. But in game 3 this seems to be especially prevalent in arty units, because the not just Khorne and Ogres but Kislev and Cathay as well and the Soulgrinder all Chaos factions get is more or less everything in one.

Iron blaster and the scrap launcher are both anti-infantry. The iron blaster shot is also 5 cannon balls IIRC.

@uuza09

2 жыл бұрын

The iron blaster tears shreds off SEM

I love how the stonehorn's face morphs, like it has eyebrows to give it expressions. pretty ridiculous

Why is Greasus great axe infantry when he is clearly holding a mace?

"They call us Brutes, Savages ... but we don't care what theys calling us. Knowone can stop us from lootin, eatin, waring. What's theirs is our for the takin, do you have the guts to be a tyrant?! Ripping em limb from limb! Eatin till ya can't eat no more! The Great Maw is hungry!! Devour for the Ogre Kingdoms!"

I just hope the game will be fine on release bec I did the stupid thingy and preordered...

@EM-tx7qm

2 жыл бұрын

I “think” this is one of those occasions (like with Elden Ring) where you are probably safe with the preorder.

@zimtwiers9726

2 жыл бұрын

i waited, still gonna oreorder today

@officialteaincorporated243

2 жыл бұрын

Game 1 and 2 were good so something would have to go horrifically wrong for this to be bad.

Stonehorne harpoon launcher looks like a viable doomstack lol

I like that you can theme the lords and heroes with what the legendary lord's are.

@Zerkovich, where are the part 2s? I know this is like your other unit guides where thats all you cover, but you are blue balling me for a part 2.

intersting so they powerd down the iron blaster i saw it do 1.7 in a vid only a few days ago,,,

Uhm, is it just me or are the stats on the Crushers insane (19:48 timestamp)? Just from looking at it I'd guess they'd have a good shot at knocking Blood Knights down from the number 1 spot... Didn't expect the Ogres out of all factions to have such amazing cavalry haha!

@Thibull

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget they are only 12 models in a unit, it is a big disadvantaged to have such a low number, I am curious to see what they do against bloodknights and grailknights

@SilverforceX

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thibull Its an advantage when you have healing magic.

@Thibull

2 жыл бұрын

@@SilverforceX yes but trollguts cost so much winds of magic it's only worth on lords heroes or stonehorns really

@Rohtix

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention they deal splash damage I think. That splits their damage up a bit fighting in crowds

@AnarexicSumo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thibull I believe Indy and Legend both said crushers are great targets.

The Ogre units have more armour than they look like. Give them something like "hard skin: 5% ward save" and less armour. They just have a plate on their belly and 90 armour...

@LordVader1094

2 жыл бұрын

Most of their vital organs are actually in their gut area, so it actually makes perfect sense