Offset Turning - Hammer Handle

Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль

I have been wanting to learn about offset wood turning and I finally found a project: making a wood handle for a ball pein hammer head that I found in a thrift shop in Kerrville, Texas.

Пікірлер: 138

  • @merlesking
    @merlesking2 жыл бұрын

    Just finished my first offset turn of an Ash handle for a restored ball peen hammer. This video was the key to my success. Thank you!

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    2 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Merle! Glad it helped! This was a fun project for me, cheers.

  • @DennisKenneybees
    @DennisKenneybees Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I enjoyed the video as I did not know how to turn to get an offset.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Dennis! It was a fun project. Thank you, I appreciate your comment, cheers.

  • @jayfromtexas6718
    @jayfromtexas6718 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Heck of a job! Love the old wood and the knot. If you don’t trust the wood, hang it on the wall. I wouldn’t change a thing. Much character in that hammer. Subscribed.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Jay! Thank for watching. I still use the hammer. It's OK, cheers.

  • @girliedog
    @girliedog Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this excellent demonstration. I did not know about offset turning, surprising results.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Virginia! Thank you for watching the video and your kind comment, cheers.

  • @TheDementedMonkeys
    @TheDementedMonkeys6 жыл бұрын

    Lovely video and channel overall, thanks for sharing your little woodworking adventures with us!

  • @yuyo57
    @yuyo574 жыл бұрын

    I have a hammer that my grandma used working in a war factory in England. Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    4 жыл бұрын

    Greeting Yuyo57! A splendid comment. Cheers

  • @dondavis769
    @dondavis7696 жыл бұрын

    I like it Cip!!! Simple straightforward by you--why I like your stuff so much. You know you can buy a specific type of wood-it's not illegal to buy wood!

  • @howardpilot4590
    @howardpilot45907 ай бұрын

    Excellent demo,I liked the planning with diagram. Good job.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    7 ай бұрын

    Howdy Howard! Glad you liked it! Cheers.

  • @davidwyby
    @davidwyby Жыл бұрын

    Sweet! Gotta turn me some axe handles

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy David! Sounds like a good project, cheers.

  • @thomasarussellsr
    @thomasarussellsr6 жыл бұрын

    Quite nicely done. First time I've seen a hammer handle turned on KZread. Thanks for sharing. Definitely saving this one to my 'tool guild's list.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting Thomas! I like recording and sharing practical things I need to do anyway. Thank you for your comment and for watching. Cheers

  • @Blueboy9055
    @Blueboy90556 жыл бұрын

    Nice little job Cip, this is one I’ll be trying in the future. Thank you Chris

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting BlueBoy! Give it a go! Cheers

  • @Bramsshed1913
    @Bramsshed19136 жыл бұрын

    A highly engaging video Cip full of information and finished with an excellent handle mate! Great video Cip and good to see you back ! Cheers, Bram.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greetings Bram, I hope you enjoyed the video. It has been a while. I have a difficult time finding good projects. I don't what to do the same thing everyone else is doing. I will be looking for the next project. Cheers

  • @michaelclark2840
    @michaelclark28406 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done indeed. So good to see a hammer handle,or any handle for that matter with the grain layers running parallel to the axis of the tool. So many handles you buy in hardware shops these days have the grain layers perpendicular to the tool axis then people wonder why the split along the grain when used. Well done.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Mike! Thanks, that was a decision I had to make. It made sense to me. Cheers.

  • @magsmethurst6423
    @magsmethurst64236 жыл бұрын

    Nice job you (handled) that well you certainly hit the nail on the head with this video All the best john s from england

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Mag! A little bit of hammer and nail humor. thanks greatly appreciated. How are thing in jolly olde England, splendid I hope? Cheers

  • @webslinger67
    @webslinger676 жыл бұрын

    Good to see a video again from you Cip....and now I'm going to try a hammer handle.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Webslinger! Often it is difficult to find a project that holds my attention long enough to finish production. I am always looking for my next project. Kind Regards.

  • @garymccoy2888
    @garymccoy28886 жыл бұрын

    Very nice. First time I’ve seen that done.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Gary. It is the first time for me, but then again I like learning new stuff. Thank you for watching. All the Best...

  • @Lee-qp6gf
    @Lee-qp6gf6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent exercise in offset turning. That's a good practice for anyone. Glad to see you one the tube again. Cip. Enjoyed the turn

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Lee! Yes, this was a good learning experience for me and I think it turn out well. I always hope to do more video but it sometimes takes me a while. Cheers.

  • @ralphhross
    @ralphhross5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent, keep that handle, it's perfect !

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    5 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Ralph! I still have the hammer and use it often. Cheers

  • @robinhoff4598
    @robinhoff45986 жыл бұрын

    Well done. I have some nice hickory and will try it soon. Always wondered how it was done. Thorough and clear video. Thanks!😎😎

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting Robin! I too was wondering how it was done and I was sure I could figure it out. The next one should be easier and I get better wood. Kind Regards

  • @MrPete1x
    @MrPete1x3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent, thank you for showing

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    3 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Peter! Thank you for your kind words, cheers.

  • @DIMTips
    @DIMTips3 жыл бұрын

    Great work and looks great

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    3 жыл бұрын

    Howdy DIM Tips! Thank you, I am still using that hammer. I like projects I can continue to use after the video is done, cheers!

  • @justinbligh
    @justinbligh6 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back! Another great video Cip.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Justin. It's been a while. Cheers

  • @tomasarguinzoni9022
    @tomasarguinzoni90226 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back sir very good job

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tomas! Thank you. It is good to hear from you. I hope you enjoyed the video. Cheers.

  • @TheMessyStudio
    @TheMessyStudio6 жыл бұрын

    Well done, especially for your first off-center piece, Cip! That handle should serve you well. Billy

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Billy! Thank you, this was fun for me. Cheers.

  • @vkwilliams8864
    @vkwilliams8864 Жыл бұрын

    Just the video I needed. Thanks.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy V&K! I hope you found this video useful, cheers.

  • @dr.duly.6926
    @dr.duly.69266 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done Cip.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting David! Thank you for the comment. I hope you enjoyed the video. Cheers!

  • @elitearbor
    @elitearbor3 жыл бұрын

    This was a very useful guide, overall. Thank you! It ought to save me a whole mess of time over carving and shaping each one with hand tools, that's for sure... I frequently find tools without handles, and it's been a hobby of mine this year to give them new life. I don't get enough use out of my wood lathe, and this will be good. Again, my thanks!

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    3 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Eltearbor! This was interesting for me. I watched many off-center turning videos. I wanted to do something practical that I could use in the shop. Cheers.

  • @driftwooder
    @driftwooder6 жыл бұрын

    Nice Job on the handle Cip. It turned out great. Glad to see ya back and happy Thanksgiving.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Roy! It is so difficult to find fun projects. I don't want to just do the same things again. Enjoy the holiday, bye.

  • @jimmiller4526
    @jimmiller45266 жыл бұрын

    Excellent job Cip. Long time no see, glad you're back. Have a happy Turkey day,

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting Jim! It has been too long. Sometimes I have a hard time finding something new to do. I hope you enjoy the holiday.. Cheers

  • @jan-roarbernhardsen7626
    @jan-roarbernhardsen76266 жыл бұрын

    Nice job and a nice tool. Wish you a nice and good week. Best wishes from Norway

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting to you in Norway! It was a fun learning experience. Thank you for watching. Cheers...

  • @jan-roarbernhardsen7626

    @jan-roarbernhardsen7626

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Cip :)

  • @samswoodshop9937
    @samswoodshop9937 Жыл бұрын

    Cip I notice a safety action that you use that NOT many do these days. That you removed your ring before starting the machine work, thank you, I enjoy doing interesting lathe work, I viewed a channel of a gent that turned a Knife on a metal lathe his channel is "Mehamozg"

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Sam! Thank you for comment. I will look into the channel you suggested, cheers.

  • @TheWoodYogi
    @TheWoodYogi6 жыл бұрын

    Great job Cip :) It looks fantastic :) ॐ

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Wood Yogi! I think it turned out splendid. All the Best.

  • @kerryg4119
    @kerryg41196 жыл бұрын

    Great video Cyp! Great idea and it came out looking very professional. Happy Thanksgiving!

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Kerry! Thanks, I think it came out splendid. Enjoy the holidays. Cheers

  • @rhpsoregon
    @rhpsoregon6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cip, I just found your channel and really enjoyed your video. There's a tip I'd like to share with you that I learned back in high school shop class. My dad had an old ball peen with a broken handle. It was a big ol' hammer probably about 2-1/2 to 3#. Anyway, I took it into school to make a new handle for him. I was just going to make a round handle but the teacher showed me how to do offset turning. And here's the tip he gave me... when marking for the centers, use a drill to cut holes for the centers. For the drive center, use a band saw or hacksaw to cut grooves for the drive flanges. It'll give them better purchase in the wood and keep the centers from jumping and/or drifting if the offsets are too close to the other holes. BTW, I just subscribed and I can't wait to see your next project.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting Mike! Good tips. I hope to make at least one mode video this year(2017). I do have a gallery of 83 videos. You may find a video of interest there. Kind Regards.

  • @Benssawmill
    @Benssawmill6 жыл бұрын

    you do some really nice work sir. Great video keep up the good work.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Ben! Thanks and thank you for watching my video. It is all a learning process for me.

  • @Benssawmill

    @Benssawmill

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's a learning process for us all.👍 The best people I find have no trouble admitting it. Keep up the good work I enjoy your channel.

  • @billebdon4338
    @billebdon43386 жыл бұрын

    A good video - it is a nice job to do to restore an old tool. I have made three of these now out of ash and I find it useful to leave an inch or so at each end, bigger diameter than the handle will be, to make plenty of room for the offset centres to be spaced out but still not too near the edge of the turning. These bigger end pieces are just sawn off to finish the job.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Bill! An excellent idea and something am considering for the next handle. The small end was my problem. It was barely large enough to turn safety. All the Best.

  • @czellner5894
    @czellner58946 жыл бұрын

    Good job Cip! I enjoyed the turn and especially the way you walk us and yourself through your first off center turn. I've played around with it a couple times but never on a real project. I use a small Jet midi lathe and am wanting to buy a larger machine. The DVR is one of my top machines.machines. They are better than VFDs in my mind. Happy Thanksgiving.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey there Charlie! I greatly enjoy my Nova DVR. The speed control is fantastic: Rpm is constant. It never slows down. I still have my Jet mini lathe. It does not get much use. Take care.

  • @davidkuhns8389
    @davidkuhns83896 жыл бұрын

    An interesting exercise. Nicely done.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy David! I think it might be one of the earliest kind of offset turning. It was difficult for me, but I was able to work through it. Kind Regards.

  • @filmbluff99

    @filmbluff99

    6 жыл бұрын

    David Kuhn

  • @garywakefield9830
    @garywakefield9830 Жыл бұрын

    great job

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Gary! Thank you for your comment, cheers.

  • @bonenfant96
    @bonenfant965 жыл бұрын

    This is my next project. I also have an old hammer that needs a handle. Thanks for posting.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    5 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Robert! This was useful to me. I hope you find it useful. Cheers.

  • @charleswilliams5729
    @charleswilliams5729 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting thank you

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Charles! Thank you for watching, cheers.

  • @learntofencesco
    @learntofencesco3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Very useful!!

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    3 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Coach Key! Thank you, cheers.

  • @tjotwo
    @tjotwo6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the informative video. I just made a dead blow mallet for my wife. For the handle, I used rectangular teak. The small dimension was the same as the handle small dimension. I'll give offset turning a shot for my next hammer or mallet project.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Jeff! Give it a go. It is enjoyable to make something different. Cheers

  • @bigoldgrizzly

    @bigoldgrizzly

    2 жыл бұрын

    ??? the mind boggles, should we have sent for the cops ?

  • @Afro408
    @Afro4082 жыл бұрын

    Well done Cip, but next time leave some selvage each end of the blank, to give the centres more support. 👍😁

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    2 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Tony! Thanks for the tip, cheers.

  • @dougcaseltine2462
    @dougcaseltine24626 жыл бұрын

    will done Cip glad to see you back

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Doug! I am always hoping to record more video. Cheers

  • @bc65925
    @bc659256 жыл бұрын

    Really nice. I have been thinking about making some kind of a hammer handle pantograph for a router to make handles for blacksmith hammers.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting BC! Yes, there must be other ways to make a handle. This work out splendid for me. Good luck.

  • @knothead6436
    @knothead64365 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, always wanted to turn oval , you could put some Swel -lock in the end of the handle to swell the wood to hard on tight. Check it out.

  • @The_Joker_
    @The_Joker_4 жыл бұрын

    I have an old Irish hammer that’s 1,400 years old, a really great hammer. It’s had 48 hands and 52 new heads but it’s still a great hammer. 😬

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    4 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Joker! Thank you for your comment. I hope you enjoyed the video. All the Best.

  • @josephsteffen2378
    @josephsteffen2378 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent! I really enjoyed this/your video. It quashed just about all of my doubts and anxieties.... Now, it's time to grab a stick and whittle away. I found a hammer the same weight, length, etc....: the dimensions are the same as the ones that you laid out. I wondered about the different styles of handles: whether it's for a "machinist", "engineer", "blacksmith", silversmith, etc. I guess there are reasons for the differences. Also, in that line of handles, I've noticed that oak is the species, most called out.??? Maybe because of its stiffness??? ...higher degree of control...at the cost of vibration (causing carpal tunnel syndrome...I heard was common to blacksmiths). I ain't no tradesman.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Joseph! Yes, there are differences. The claw hammer handle comes to mind. Claw Hammer handles need to be strong because through leverage they are used to pull nails. Machinist hammers rely mostly on velocity. Blacksmith hammer handles rely on brute force; thick handles with heavy heads, cheers.

  • @Faesharlyn
    @Faesharlyn6 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome! What would happen if you had a sacrificial half inch at each end to cut some off for each turning? You could do all of the measuring at once, maybe drill tiny pilots to guide and keep the measurements? The center pin hole thats left would be to center it for sanding with a band sander maybe?

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Phoenix! Yes, there was some sanding required to smooth and blend the curves. A little extra length would have been welcomed. Kind Regards.

  • @caspianx67
    @caspianx676 жыл бұрын

    Would it help to draw a pencil line lengthwise down the high sides as a reference? You'd know your offset cuts are deep enough when they get to the line...

  • @charlless5429
    @charlless54294 жыл бұрын

    Learned a bunch, ty.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    4 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Charles! It was an interesting topic for me. Cheers

  • @marcelobondoc3967
    @marcelobondoc3967 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Greetings Marcelo! Thank you very much for your kind comment, cheers.

  • @markh5889
    @markh58892 жыл бұрын

    What about using calipers, set to the diameter you need? Just let them ride in the groove while using the parting tool. When the caliper slips over the wood it has reached the correct size. No need to stop the lathe every time to measure.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    2 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Mark! Sure, I stop and spin slower than a lot of turners. I often do it for the camera and viewers, cheers.

  • @markh5889

    @markh5889

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CipsWoodChips Ah yes! You have people watching. I got paid by the piece. Keep up the good work.

  • @Jamirobruno
    @Jamirobruno6 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back!! :D

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greeting Jamiro! I hope you enjoyed the video. I always hope to record more. Cheers.

  • @benmorris1657
    @benmorris16572 жыл бұрын

    Could you put markings on your parting chisel to simplify how deep to cut each contour point?

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    2 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Ben! Interesting, I am not sure how that would help. If it helps you, OK, cheers.

  • @hraun2berg
    @hraun2berg6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Júlíus

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Julius! Thank you for watching my video. Cheers

  • @gord9677
    @gord96776 жыл бұрын

    Well done Cip. Thanks to you and your videos I've learned a lot. I'm 70 and just learning wood turning. It's a lot of fun, and with your help I've learned a lot. What computer program do you use for your drawings? Thanks again. Bama Gord.

  • @davehaskett9268
    @davehaskett92685 жыл бұрын

    Nice job with the hammer handle Cip. I’m a neophyte turner and appreciate you sharing your techniques. I noticed the computer drawing in this and your super clamp video. Would you mind sharing the name of the software that you use? Thanks

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    5 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Dave! I did these drawings with Serif DrawPlus X8. The program was replaced by Serif Affinity Designer. These are drawing-art programs not CAD engineering programs. I can send you a PDF. Send an email to cipmendez19@gmail.com Cheers

  • @davehaskett9268

    @davehaskett9268

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cip's Wood Chips Thanks Cip. I’ll look it up.

  • @darrenscharringa298
    @darrenscharringa2986 жыл бұрын

    u need to sharpen your gouge and use it properly riding the bevel on an angle you should get a very smooth cut that way

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Darren! I did sharpen the gouge during the offset turning. I have to confess I am out of practice. I have not turned anything in seven months. Cheers.

  • @ebrahimtharwat9657
    @ebrahimtharwat96576 жыл бұрын

    nice work

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Ebrahim. It is fun to do something different.Cheers.

  • @ebrahimtharwat9657

    @ebrahimtharwat9657

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cip's Wood Chips keep going man🔝 from Egypt

  • @visumexcipio
    @visumexcipio3 жыл бұрын

    Cool. Fun to watch

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    3 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Visumexcipio! Thank you for watching. It was a fun to figure out how to do it. A lot more thinking than I am used to doing. Cheers.

  • @iuliuscaesar9121
    @iuliuscaesar9121 Жыл бұрын

    So the hammer handle goes in through the small oval and out through the larger one? 🤔

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Lulius! Yes, that is correct. When the wedge is pounded in, the wood expands tightly in the large oval end, cheers.

  • @brucebranecki2933
    @brucebranecki29335 жыл бұрын

    It didn't turn out to bad for your first time at offset turning. The only thing that I have noticed the you use all of your tools as scrapers, you are not running the bevel and use the cutting edge.

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    5 жыл бұрын

    Howdy Bruce! That is very true about me and scrapers. I learned to turn wood in Jr. High and we only had scrapers and parting tools. Every time I pick up a gouge I have to practice and learn it again. I am by no means an expert. Cheers.

  • @willy8477
    @willy84776 жыл бұрын

    geweldig

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @vitriolix
    @vitriolix6 жыл бұрын

    Hey, new video!!

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes Josh, it's been a while. Have a happy thanksgiving. We're missing you all.

  • @sammylacks4937
    @sammylacks4937Ай бұрын

    Vintage tools don't rust. That's patina . Oh I know you didn't clean off the patina. You'll be lucky to give it away now. With the handle. Lol

  • @CipsWoodChips

    @CipsWoodChips

    Ай бұрын

    Greetings Sammy! Thanks for the info. The hammer does have nice patina, cheers. PS: one of my children is named Patina.

  • @sammylacks4937

    @sammylacks4937

    Ай бұрын

    @@CipsWoodChips How bout that lol. You did a fine job , I was messing with ya.

  • @darrenscharringa298
    @darrenscharringa2986 жыл бұрын

    u should have shavings coming off not chips

Келесі