I am really happy to see you getting viewership and traction! You are the man and I was here from the begining and will be here when you get your world record 💪

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

You're the best Ibrahim!!! Glad to have you here my friend!

One interesting difference between your approach and that of Shad is that he is theorizing how a person with inhuman strength might wield such sword, while you are doing this with regular human strength. For example, the very thing keeping you from doing a montante style swings is that you don't have super strength. Both are very interesting data points. Thanks for this content!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

True! And thank you. The one flaw with Shad's theory is he needs to consider that even one with superhuman strength wouldn't immediately go flying. We're organic and are capable of implementing movements for counterbalance. A wider stance with the weight impacted upon the forward leg instead of through the arm would negate the flying forward. I'm curious to see where he goes with it!

@The_Gallowglass

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 You need a hydraulic exo. ;)

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

But that would defeat the purpose. Fun, but it would defeat the purpose. lol

@PiiskaJesusFreak

Жыл бұрын

Hmm... I wonder how a passive, maybe spring powered exoskeleton would interact with a sword like this. Might it allow you to swing it horizontally?

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@PiiskaJesusFreak It would depend on the mechanics, but theoretically yes. I worked out today doing basic Colossus movements and incorporated horizontal movements. One set stagnant on my right side. One set each side using full body and ballistic techniques. Which worked much better. The exoskeleton would help most with the stationary/stagnant movements. But I think would hamper full body and ballistic forms.

Damn... Seeing the Zweihander after the giant sword you have makes the Zweihander look like short sword.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

I've actually played with the idea of having the Zweihander on me as an "arming sword". Mostly for the trolls though. Lol

@Quephara

Жыл бұрын

The origin of the sword is a story known as 'berserk', a Japanese comic which popularised the giant sword, and the best story I have ever read, heard or seen

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@Quephara You are correct!

@artie6551

Жыл бұрын

Thin******* not short

@abc4781

Жыл бұрын

@John King'ori Wow that's impressive detective! How long have you been on the for?

imagine practicing with that thing for hours everyday. then having archeologists dig up your skeleton and see the way your skeleton forms to account for the displacement like medieval archers.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

As long as I have a smile on that boney face I'm good!

While Shad was talking about a man with super strength it was very interesting watching you actually use a massive blade.

@Flacto-vs6np

Жыл бұрын

Ye shad was referring to a person with superhuman strength

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.... I forgot to mention that in my video..... so I'm just going to answer all those who point it out. lol

@mansfieldtime

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 Even though that wasn't mentioned, watching you use that monster and know, personally, I probably wouldn't even be able o lift it. That was still insightful.

@mansfieldtime

Жыл бұрын

I also just realized, that blade functions more like a wood ax then a sword. Or at least appears to.

another thing both you and shad never really touch on is blade geometry. it can literally change entire behavior with different grinds, angles, etc. your dragon slayer as you said is wedge-like certain axe grinds are for lumber milling. this is a huge factor in how well something will do certain tasks.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Solid point! I've considered acquiring another with a thicker blade and a more profound wedge that can handle more dense material.

This dude is living the life. Swinging around a giant sword in an empty field off a highway whilst his caretaker eggs him on.

@_maliciousIntent

8 ай бұрын

Caretaker? 😂

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

8 ай бұрын

Lol. I mean.... she makes me food and helps edit the videos.

The moment you pivoted that beast overhead during your whirlwind demonstration my heart skipped a beat. Having clouted myself in the head with a montante crossguard several times when learning, I'd be very reluctant to try any kind of overhead transition with sharp corners instead. You're a very brave man my friend. 😁

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Yeah, that was a risk. The thing is, I can feel/sense where the blades are. I've practiced so many hours with it I can tell where they are to avoid contact with my head and body. A lot of people also tend to jump to conclusions that I only do the vertical cut, I practice many others and it helps understand the blade and sword overall. The shoulders and arms are the exception, but like Shad, I had a similar idea but not completely relying on them for leverage. Lol. Have a good one!

Perhaps having a giant sword that has only one edge would be better than two edges since you can rest it on your shoulder, and push the blade off of your shoulder for an attack WAY easier.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Buster Sword!!!

@strongarm5137

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 Exactly!

@elishafollet5347

Жыл бұрын

I heard cross guards can help in a similar way tho idk much about swords so I'm not sure if that's right or wrong

@strongarm5137

Жыл бұрын

@@elishafollet5347 You could, but you'd need a pretty big cross guard. Even then you'd still have to focus on balance way more because the blade would be sticking up almost vertically, and your hands would be really close together and wouldn't provide a very secure foundation. Resting the actual blade on your shoulder is more stable, and would provide a wider base of which the sword would be resting.

@ChaolaoFueChi

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 A Buster Sword seems great but since that giant great sword has other weapons inside itself, it'd be heavier. I'd recommend Genshin Impact Claymore's (lowest) one to two star weapons. Waster Greatsword, and Old Mercs Pal with one edged side, you could also check the battle animations on how they use the weapon and see how their body uses it in their own unique way.

5:00 Massive guts energy. "My swords dull. it don't cut too well. - If one hit don't kill you, you'll wish it had."

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Sounds right. Though it's still sharp and wedge shaped where it's not. So the weight and wedge still get the cutting and chopping done. Lol Cheers and Happy New Year!

"And contrary to popular opinion... it clangs" Hahahaha that's a good one 8:45 Now it's a hammer

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

It's a versatile weapon, what can I say? :)

dang imagine somthing happens like aliens come or something and disable our guns who’s gonna stop somebody’s with a sword that huge 😂

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Magnet man. My arch nemesis.

@cybernetic_crocodile8462

Жыл бұрын

He would still probably get ganked by hoomans with pointy sticks and sticks with metal heads on top.

@warlord5295

Жыл бұрын

Spears or an alien with a lightsaber.

@charlottewalnut3118

Жыл бұрын

Me with a blow gun needle to the neck

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@warlord5295 I'd pull out the bazooka.

Imagine being in one of the cars in the background and as you drive past you get only a glimpse of this guy with the Dragonslayer "holy shit did I just see Guts!?" 🤣

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

"Clang!" The neighbors still give me looks.

Cool video, and it illustrates a few things very well: - the sheer destructive force of such an oversized weapon - why sword size just did not increase past a certain point. I mean we kinda knew that, but it just is not a practical weapon for humans to use. If you hit something, it will turn into mush, for sure. But the movement is so limited, swings so telegraphed, it would be suicide to bring something like this to a battlefield. Still hella cool to see though and VERY impressive. Also brings me back to shad's initial assumptions - that to use such a thing efficiently you would need to either a) have the sword made of some super strong but actually very light material or b) have super strength and mass I'm not sure about either of those... with the first the blade will become more easy to handle, sure - but you kinda forsake a core advantage of such a huge weapon - the mass. Wonder if something like that would still actually be efficient, because I feel without the huge mass edge alignment and the like becomes more important again. As for the second option, it makes me wonder just how strong and heavy a body would need to be to turn such a weapon into something even remotely nimble. I mean it is not just about the strength and mass, but also about the fine tuning when it comes to distribution of the weight. Not getting pulled from your feet when you swing it is one thing and a good start, but that still wouldn't mean you could swing it *efficiently* necessarily, right? Either way, bloody awesome to see this BEAST of a sword in action, thanks a lot for sharing this!

@dao_of_the_gamer4084

Жыл бұрын

So Pretty Hate Machining did a 1:1 replica of the Dragonslayer, and I believe it was like 320pound /145kg of steel. Carbon would allow for I think a third or so of the weight? But isn't durable enough. So you would have to use Titanium or something, which is roughly half the density of steel. Then don't make a"true" dragonslayer, but something more reasonable (thiner blade for example), and you could actually get something done, that would be wieldable. Taking the sword form this video, using a titanium/carbon mixture (and asuming that it works for a blade), you could reduce the weight from 48pounds/22kg down to half I guess. So 24pounds/11kg. Might be interessting to see if this would make the "giant sword" feasable as a weapon. Especially while wearing a plate armor (idealy the same material), so you could ignore "sneak" attacks, that try to get in fast.

@linkolek

Жыл бұрын

Well, big sword from super light material wouldn't have mass, but range is one of the biggest advantages in combat. You would be fighting with what is essentialy a spear without effective range problem. Super light means more speed and control, too. For me, that is a good trade off. Strength and mass wouldn't make you swing efficiently on their own, but with training would, just like with other weapons. I will admit that the problem of adjusting for sudden change in one's own strenght AND mass would make it more complex.

@dao_of_the_gamer4084

Жыл бұрын

@@linkolek Well, yes and no. Sure, making a giant sword out of corbon/titaniuzm would make it lighter. But we're still talking like 4 - 6 times the weight of a normal sword. So the mass is still insane and deadly.

@MemeLordCthulhu

Жыл бұрын

@@dao_of_the_gamer4084 that might work, I train with the red queen replica and it gets pretty nimble, so a 25lb dragonslayer would probably work really well, the only problem is the balance but the pommel can just be steel or something heavier to balance it out

@steakdriven

Жыл бұрын

Let's take Cloud for example he is enhanced by exposure to Mako and the injection of Jenova cells which increases his strength without actually increasing the size of his muscles and therefore his weight

one thing Shad seems to underestimate here is just how much the sword is gonna go where it wants to go and it will absolutely shove or crush or cut or tear anything trying to stop it.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

True story. To be fair I don't think he has held a giant sword or destroyed something with it. It's a unique experience! Lol

@MegaGaming11

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 I envy you man

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@MegaGaming11 It's a lot of fun! Hard work got me here. Aim high for your goals too man.

@jthecryptid

5 ай бұрын

​​​@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 thats pretty much how Guts swings the Dragon Slayer in the manga, and how Cloud swings the Buster Sword in the FF7 Remake: they're not fine-tune controlling the blades, they swing to build momentum and let their blades crush everything in front of them. Even when Cloud does fast combos ("Punisher mode"), there's still a ton of heft and weight in his swings, and his insane leg/core strength is the only reason he doesn't go flying. The sword blades are so wide they don't need handguards or traditional guard stances, smaller blades just skid right off. DemolitionRanch has a video where he and a strongman test out a 1:1 steel replica of the Buster Sword (made by Pretty Hate Machining): it weighs 120 lbs, and the blade is 5 feet long and an inch thick. They can't swing with any momentum, only drop it from shoulder height It still crushes the side of a car and pierces from the roof to the floor from sheer weight alone despite the relatively short drop. It also is basically immune to bullets, even their largest armor piercing round only went 3/4ths through the blade. Pretty Hate Machining's 1:1 replica of the Dragon Slayer's blade is 6 feet long and 2 inches thick. It weighs 324 lbs. If armor piercing rounds can't pierce the (relatively) smaller Buster Sword, im not surprised nothing in Berserk has damaged that blade yet

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

5 ай бұрын

@@jthecryptid Solid points. That's why I created my Colossus Sword Form to take into the account of giant swords advantage, weight and impact!

Currently working on a video game that utilizes oversized swords and both this video and shad's have been huge in understanding how this would work in real life. It's a bit unexpected which moves are practical and which are not. I look forward to seeing more!

@naherathe

Жыл бұрын

good luck on the game!!! really looking foward to this lol, will you post the making of it? would love to see this game take shape!!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Check this out as well! kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZeYsbWGmLitY6w.html

@LunaireTD

Жыл бұрын

@@naherathe I'll think about it. I'm still pretty novice at game dev so I don't feel too confident explaining but I probably will do occasional video updates at large stages

2:30 Yeah, the biggest thing about resting it on your shoulder is that it doesn't have a cross guard. You may not need armor and a cross guard, but you definitely need one or the other to avoid the blade digging into your shoulder, as you said the point was doing. 9:20 So it seems you don't need to worry about the blade bouncing back at you, but reclaiming the sword from the target may be an issue, lol. Unless you just cut the target in half, like you did almost immediately after. 14:20 That was also crossing my mind when Shad was demonstrating that idea with his sword. The bottom foot or so of the sword would have to be flat or rounded in order to do a motion like that safely, otherwise the sword is cutting into your glove or shoulder. 17:30 A potential way to get more counter balance on the "body" end of the spin would be to wear heavier armor, but that's really just adding more and more pounds to what your legs need to carry. I think the big thing for all the massive sword weapons like this is the weight, which is greatly reduced in fantasy settings, either through magic or fantasy materials. Or such swords are wielded by giants, lol. Great video response, Shad created the hypothesis video, and you brought out the practical application test. Science!

@ntfoperative9432

Жыл бұрын

14:20 if you have a mail glove that negates that point entirely

10:22 I think the point Shad was making here was about how the moves were overswinging and sloppy rather then anything about the possibility of swinging like that

The algorithm brought me here after watching Shad's video. As a Kanabo (Japanese War Club) enjoyer, I appreciate the practical perspective, the raw energy and the straightforward approach of this video. Good luck on your attempt and I pray for you to have more power. Literally more power to be able to do this stuff.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Thank you BR! Also I didn't know about Kanabo but I'm going to look into that weapon now! Strength to you as well! Happy New Year!

"This is super dangerous." he says, wearing no head or eye protection. This is an interesting response, and I respect how much thought and effort you have put into this subject, but please protect your squishy bits!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

I have body armor over where I am most likely to be struck. I have also spent countless hours training with the live blade (slowly and not slowly) to build strength and muscle memory. Head is arguable, but if it helps I found a kevlar helmet for when I do crazy spinning moves again in the future. Have a great day!

The guy who made that Dragonslayer is currently making another one, supposedly full sized and the blade itself weighs a few hundred pounds. Seeing as how you've already got one, I'm thinking the current project's going to Shad since... he's suddenly decided to pop up that video. As for how viable that one is to even move around, I think its just going to be a display conversation piece for his castle whenever it gets done lol.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Yep! Adam from PrettyHateMachining and I have been acquaintances for years! I did reviews of his work on my closed channel. The current project weighs 324lbs completed. It would need one of Shad's shoulder leverage techniques to be moved, by a massive and properly trained guy. But it would make one hell of a display piece!

@PrettyHateMachining

Жыл бұрын

It'd be cool to sell a sword to Shad but unfortunately, he was not the client for this one :)

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@PrettyHateMachining Hi Adam! You never know! Maybe he'll come up with an idea or a new project to create? Also, Happy New Year!

@PrettyHateMachining

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 Same to you, brother

@cocodojo

Жыл бұрын

Well if Shad's not the client for this one, then he'll need a ridiculously large conversational piece for the spot above the giant fireplace someday!

I’m glad I’ll be living in the future that has real big sword fighting style and techniques, it would be very useful for writers

I hope you get that world record! It’s so cool to see somebody train with a semi realistic ultra greatsword. Speaking of, your dragonslayer is amazing! Been looking for something similar but they end up being short or not made of metal.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm glad that there are many people enthusiastic about it! PrettyHateMachining made mine years ago. You can find him on Etsy. They are much more expensive now than when I first got mine years ago but they are also now more on demand. He does great work though! Yeah... there's a lot of aluminum ones and others made of foam or plastic. But hardemed steel is the only way to go!

@gwidao123

Жыл бұрын

The same guy made your sword is now doing a 1/1 solid steel dragonslayer for thickness, no one can probably ever lift it hahah

@priestesslucy3299

Жыл бұрын

It's not wieldable, but there's someone making a true to scale Dragonslayer on KZread, I can go find them if you want.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@gwidao123 Yep! I covered his first two videos on my other channel!

I always thought the beat way to fight with such epic slabs of steel would be to use momentum, as in to basically move your whole body with them; almost dancing.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Full body ballistic movements are key. This was just demonstrating specific points. You can see additional techniques and forms on my channel through other videos.

Here is the thing. It is 100% dependant on strength, that is pretty much it. If you have the strength to control the weapon, it is going to be effective. Human's however, probably even the World Strongman Champion, can't effectively control at 48 pound weapon and all you would have to do is dodge the first swing and its over, because they wouldn't be able to recover fast enough to counter your attack.

@elishafollet5347

Жыл бұрын

Pointy stick will always be better than giant sword. ,Spear gang,

@OpalDruscilla

5 ай бұрын

I was gonna say crossbow but I could basically hide behind that sword and I am sure it could take the shot​@@elishafollet5347

My idea with giant swords has always been the idea of having hand holds at optimal points along the length of the blade, most likely along the core of the blade, with the fighting technique involving a fair amount of movement with your non dominant hand, changing said off hand from the hilt to the other hand holds to be able to have better direction control while still being able to utilize the weight of the blade, most likely one hold above the guard like normal greatswords for defense or heavy hitting techniques and one toward the middle for thrusts and more sweeping motions. Seeing how you lean into the brutish and stonewall nature of a giant sword is interesting though, I like it (also speaking as someone who has limited experience with proper swordplay feel free to take absolutely nothing I say into consideration)

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Your idea would be cool to explore! The blade would need to be built first.

@Myomer104

Жыл бұрын

I can see two problems with that: 1) Attached handles would ruin the cutting ability by being hard stops. 2) Cutout handles would reduce the blade's structural integrity.

There’s a game called Kenshi where swords akin to the dragon slayer exist. They’re often referred to as “suicide blades” due to how people tend to die wielding them since they’re not easy to utilize. That is, unless you **can** use them.

Fascinating tests. I love to see people testing the bounds of physiology and skill when using new technology. I would love to see sparring, but with a weapon so heavy, I don't think it could possibly be safe. Maybe measure your strike time next to a wall with tape on it, then have someone with a different weapon attempt a strike and compare the footage to see if they could have closed the distance in time. For science!

I suppose its worth mentioning the difference between their swords. Obviously, Shad's is made of wood, and not dense, thick metal. However, if we take the shape and size of his wooden sword, and say it'd now made out of steel, I think it might prove to be a lighter and possibly easier weapon to wield. It's thinner, which suggests that it'd be better at cutting, and is also longer, which takes away from its potential advantage of less weight, but even then... Anyway, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that things would look different with something other than Guts' hunk of steel of a sword. Regardless, it's interesting to see someone spending time to develop a way to use giant or colossal swords.

It was great fun to see the Dragonslayer sword, b'b'but... I'm thinking one might achieve significantly superior results in all those tests, except the pointy-end one, with a woodsman's axe. 😁

Maybe a longer handle might help with handling the sword better? Like a handle 1.5x if not twice as long

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Maybe for some movements? Too long of a handle and it actually begins to hamper movement and get in the wielders way. Same thing with having too wide of a blade. I've practiced with my Dragonslayer for so long that I have grown accustom to it's and a longer handle would throw me off. The other concern is that a longer handle would bend more easily over time or warp in other ways from impact. But maybe for another weapon?

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS!!!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! There's two more videos that may interest you! Colossus Sword Workout #1 and Combo #1!

To be fair, the Mantante style stuff was under the assumption that either the weapon was abnormally light, or the wielder was super-strong; but it's interesting to see the fantasy vs. real techniques.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I forgot to add that mention. ;)

I don't think the glove thing was meant for leather gloves, but metal gauntlets, lol I also think everyone should look more at single-edged giant swords. It doesn't strike me as though them being double-edged serves any purpose, since they neither need to be sharp nor are prone to quick direction changes, and just makes them more awkward and dangerous to use. (You can also get more weight behind point of contact on the single edge with the fatter geometry of a blunt end, too.)

@lourousseau4169

11 ай бұрын

Most metal gauntlets were basically metal plate riveted onto a leather glove. Because you need grip and sensitive feedback when you grip a sword, pretty much all gauntlets were left leather on the palm. On the other hand (haha get it?), I've seen one example of a gauntlet with chainmail in the inside of the hand, but I don't think that It'd be very practical when added to all the drawbacks of giant swords.

Something that neither of you touched on that I believe is a HUGE advantage to giant swords is the blocking factor. ESPECIALLY After a top swing, you can put your body behind the flat of the blade and block basically anything immediately after you do a top swing. Moving around the blade instead of moving the blade itself, and using it as an obstacle for your opponent. Moving fluidly with the gravity of it is key. Sigfried in Soul calibur 4 is my inspiration for this, I would highly recommend checking it out!

@supernova00500

Жыл бұрын

Any time I see a giant sword like this, I think of Siegfried and his Sword: Requiem. It'd be interesting to see his techniques analyzed and tested

I was going to write a comment about how I see a style that works with this type of weapon would almost be a "dance" of some kind: something that focuses on the momentum and energy preservation by letting it swing you just as much as you swing it. Seeing you destroy that bucket with nothing but letting your muscles relax tells me that you've thought of this more than I have, but that's still just a bucket. Now I just want to see it win in a sparring match! It's so cool that you're working on a fighting style for these things!! Life imitating art, that's so dope. Edit: That Dragon Slayer of yours really is the real deal. It's rough, making it rip and tear through things as opposed to cleanly cut. Thats so cool!!

There is that one guy who made the steel 400lb dragon slayer.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

324lbs. PrettyHateMachining.

The sound of impact on the stump is so satisfying^^

This was such a cool video! I can’t wait for this channel to grow in viewership, you both definitely deserve it! I was worried for both of your safety as several points in this video. When you were twirling with the sword it was like an athlete preparing a hammer toss, and I was worried your grip might loosen and send the blade flying, possibly hurting someone. Please invest in a decent helmet, too! Great video! that reminds me, speaking of athletics, you might consider practicing the sort of exercises caber toss athletes do, because they essentially are just lifting giant poles of weight, sort of like the dragonslayer is.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

You read my mind John! Lol I was thinking of highland games too! My issue with the helmet is that I don't really want to create techiniques in the Colossus Sword Form that requires it. As a martial art weapon form I believe that each movement should be usable at a moments notice without armor. But different weapons means different rules. I probably wont get too crazy with the whirling though! Lol The grip was amazing, no issues there. The problem was weight, much more power is needed than Shad's wooden one. Thanks John!

Badass man, when you picked up that 7 pound sword it looked like you had enough pump to use it with one hand lmao. That’s a feat in itself Can’t wait to see you swinging this thing like a branch

This felt like a wonderful compliment to Shad's video while being very entertaining and insightful in its own right. Bravo!

the difference between horizontal and vertical swings are so obvious in hindsight, really great video

I feel like the weakness of a giant sword is that if you get it stuck on something or miss the first strike you don't really get a chance to recover it for a second strike easily.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Different types of weapons call for different types of fighting styles. I think the issue at hand is that everyone wants to keep comparing it to longswords and arming swords. I'll keep improving! Have a good one!

@thecommentguy9380

Жыл бұрын

Then you better hope you swing hard enough to crush it

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@thecommentguy9380 The beauty of 48lbs of steel kissing someone is that you don't have to swing super hard every time. Gravity and it's weight will always have a lasting impact on the target. True love.

@thecommentguy9380

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 i mean when you unintentionally hit stones or wood, they get stuck as seen in the vid

Point aside, I think that for the first "game animation", you might get a bit more juice if instead of swinging the blade from the get go, you first move (while still grabbing it) away, forwards from the blade a big step, dragging the sword a bit and giving it enough momentum for a very very big smash. I would love to see the comparison and your thoughts

Probably one of the first response videos I've seen where there's actually respect going toward Shad. Thank you so much for your kindness sir!!! Haven't watched the video fully yet Just wanted to add this and because I truly respect that and I look forward to seeing how this works!

4:28 "NOW THATS ALOTTA DAMAGE" Phil Swift

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Now I just need a bigger bucket... to do more! Lol

Ok very cool, I need to think about my approach to giant swords now XD Kudos to you sir!

This made me realize the most realistic giant sword fighting shown in video games likely would be the style shown in Monster Hunter games where people swing their entire bodies into every swing and let their body sort of flow with the momentum of the blade. Like how I use Switch Axe in MHRise.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

You are right! The movements most often ridiculed are actually the most accurate!

The biggest problem with this response is that Shad's video is assuming that the fantasy sword is made of some super-light but super-strong material and/or the wielder has inhuman strength to use it as such. You're using a sword made of regular metal that weighs an impractical 40+ pounds that tires you after less than a minute of swinging. We're trying to compare apples to oranges here. Honestly, if you had the sword forged with half of the blade width of yours to cut down on weight, but still be super heavy, I can see that maybe approaching close to practical to use.

@rasmachris94

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking what would be reasonable to make the sword more usable. The biggest thing I've noticed is that it's one sheet of metal, no fuller. A nice big fuller either side of the sword should cut a large portion of the weight out. Maybe reduce the size by something like 2 inches and I think you might have something closer to usable.

Subbed just for the genuine effort you put forth here. I feel like if you put more mass on, even if it was just fat, may help with blade control. I would say maybe this would be a legitimate use for weighted training clothes for sure. That and heavy focus on back, core, and arm workouts alongside yoga for tendon/ligament strength and flexibility. Genuinely excited to see more theory crafting!

I think the main issue with this weapon in a combat scenario is the fact that you can only swing it once. You arent gonna be swinging that at 3 or 4 other dudes armed with spears on a battlefield. Youre gonna swing it maybe once, and be done. You can only do one move with this thing: cut downward.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Actually if you watch the video in it's entirety I do numerous moves. I also have media across my channel of doing diagonal, upper and horizontal. I also am capable of swing up to 12 times with full control and taking different angles. I've also still consider myself a rookie with plenty of potential to grow.

@datyeen

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 at 12:59 you attempt to do a side swing. The problem is, youre fighting gravity at that point, and when compared to your downard swings speed, it would be very easy for a competent fighter to either close in or duck under such a slow move, as you are completely exposing yourself in order to rev up the cut. You also claim right after that horizontal strikes dont really work, and are more for intimidation to get people to step back. The issue with that is after that horizontal swing, you were completely thrown off balance, and couldnt immediately follow up with a vertical.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@datyeen You do realize that every move done in this video is not to demonstrate actual combat reactions right? That they were shown solo without intention of follow up, and to demonstrate specific points? Yes, as I stated the horizontal strikes are not effective. At this time. Though I would argue the full body swing is. I have also stated (which you continue to ignore) that I don't see myself as 100% refined yet. Also, the "competent fighter would dodge or see it coming" is not accurate either. Watch a few muay thai or mixed martial arts matches. Combat is not as cut and dry as most think. Blocking or dodging your opponent is not as easy or as common as people like to think. But it's a common internet argument angle. I would also point out that you can't block this weapon, it's going to hurt you really badly trying. Or kill you. Also, you again assume the person wielding the weapon doesn't have legs, can't do feints and isn't able to move either. I can sprint with this Dragonslayer and deliver accurate blows. I'm also curious as to why your focus here is obsessed on immediate dismissal? You ignored the purpose of the video which was demonstration, and instead focused on negative tropes and viewpoints.

@datyeen

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178the problem with your muay thai analogy is throwing a punch or kick is MUCH faster than the horizontal swing shown here. Furthermore, anyone who knows how shields work would be able to tell you that even against that powerful downward strike, if you hold the shield at an angle, its gonna glance off. At worst, its gonna get stuck in the shield, adding even more weight to the sword itself. It absolutely would not "kill" someone to block this weapon if they knew what they were doing. My dismissal of this weapon is its far too large and awkward for actual combat, which is what im assuming you are trying to prove.

@elishafollet5347

Жыл бұрын

Nvm he's only making it for a record

And the amazing thing is this behemoth is only 10-15% of the weight of the original dragonslayer

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 15% at 48.3lbs. The real life Dragonslayer made by PrettyHateMachining is 324lbs.

Lmao, the comment on the Chiwawa's. That will teach them for biting my ankle!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

10 ай бұрын

They travel in packs!

The thing is, sure this huge sword would be intimidating at first, but very quickly an opponent would realize how slow it is and how limited the angles of attack are. One quick step to the side and your sword is stuck in the dirt, and you're open to likely several attacks before you can retaliate. Also you wouldn't really be able to keep going as long as your opponent could, a very valid strategy might be to avoid your sword until you're too tired to move effectively. It is awesome that you're experimenting with this though. Without people like you doing this stuff we would just be sitting around speculating, and I was surprised by how well you are able to move this thing! I was in the camp that thought swords like this weren't even possible to use, and you're over here swinging it around! Very cool and definitely worth further experimentation. Perhaps there is an optimal design for swords of this size? Something that minimizes the drawbacks without compromising on the size and power?

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Hi Dustin. I think many have automatically assumed that my demonstrations are all that can be done. I have numerous other videos where I don't let the blade hit the ground and I transition to other stances quickly and conduct strikes in unison from mulitple combos. There's even a video of me control chopping pumpkins in half. The issue with tropes and biases regarding giant swords is that the person swinging it is of less skill, intelligence and endurance than their opponent. There is also video with me running and then delivering an accurate strike.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

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@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

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@sleep-of-ages

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 the issue isn't that they're biased against the wielder of the sword, it's that the "sword" is ridiculously impractical as a weapon. This poster rightly points out that you don't have enough speed to avoid being chopped apart if you miss once. You replied by saying a) that you don't always hit the ground and b) you chopped a pumpkin with it. Neither of those things address their very astute criticism of this as an actual fighting system. Nobody disputes this could destroy a pumpkin. The only answer to this poster's concern would be to post video of you sparring with someone else. The internet is full of self-styled martial arts experts, but only videos of live sparring offer any indication of the efficacy of their styles. Even the charlatans who pretend they can deliver "ki" strikes from a distance (or whatever) are more difficult to discount than your claims. Maybe they are telling the truth? No way of knowing. But anyone who has trained in any sort of martial arts, unarmed or armed, can tell that your sword would be an awful choice of weapon for literally any combat scenario, even if it were wielded by someone who had trained in it for 20 years. Give me a longsword and I still like my chances of beating Halfthor Bjornson (the mountain) who had trained with this thing all his adult life. His wrists would be a very easy target once he started swinging that thing.

@Angelic_Hero

Жыл бұрын

@@sleep-of-ages while I'm mostly prone to agree with you there's also historical weapons that had very heavy weights compared to the average longsword that were very effective on the battlefield. the iron staffed kanabo which seemed to average between 10 and 15lbs/ 4.5kg-6kg but was still an effective battlefield weapon against the 3lbs katana when used by the average japanese fighter. so if there were someone with the strength and endurance to properly manipulate in the same way a average person does a longsword. there could be a combat style that makes swords like the dragonslayer effective for a select few combatants not everyone

11:03 that clang was beautiful, maybe THE CLANG we all know was not as unaccurate as we thought lmao

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

The clang is very real I'm afraid. I think people got carried away with the hate towards the 2016 anime.

I'm glad you're finally getting more and more views. Keep it up man.

a solid set of plate armor could really help with a lot of these techniques i feel... also if the weight was shaved down to about 30 lbs some of this could actually be pretty effective and still have insane mass for a sword... i wanna try to build one now haha

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

A suit of well-made custom armor would be nice and help protect the wielder. But safety and experience helps too. I take it slow while training to avoid putting myself at too much risk. Hey! That would be cool!

@EaglebeakGaming

Жыл бұрын

I think if you made it hollow with material under 1/8 thick you could get the weight down to 30 lbs or so and still have enough strength in the blade.

Never seen this channel before but I can only imagine what the drivers think passing by some guy swinging around a giant sword next to the freeway, fun video lol

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Neighbors have grown accustomed! Lol

Seeing how you respond to shad’s theories and what limitations you have to work within, leads me to wanting to design a sword for giant sword combat. Some things I’ve thought would be good to include would be a shoulder-rest-crossguard, handles in the blade, switching to one full edge, and a transport wheel. May have to start prototyping this.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Go for it! I'm not sold on the handle in the middle or losing the double blade edge though. You're not going to get much benefit from the handles and the wielder will have to struggle to keep the blade pointed in the right direction and from flopping around. Single edge works great, but double edge gives you the ability to swing and cut in either direction at any given moment. But those are my thoughts. Would be cool to see what you create!

The fish net shirt is what really sold it for me

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Breathable Motocross armor. But sure, maybe I'll go clubbing with it and start a trendy brand.

Honestly, one of the best response videos I've ever seen, very respectful and the criticism was constructive, plus you have a giant *ss sword?! How cool is that?!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Super cool! I really enjoy it! Thank you Anvasan!

@xanvasanx

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 nah thank you man, you just got a new subscriber

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

@@xanvasanx Motivation! Glad to have you!

YOOOO, great video! Shadiversity needs to look here!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

That would be awesome! I think he's staying focused on the fantasy element though. But this was fun to do!

To be fair to shad, he did state that he hadn’t really thought much about the idea of it was starting to realise the opportunities of large sword martial arts. Honestly, I appreciate this video as I was waiting for an update video from shad bc I wanted to see the opportunities better expanded. And I think this is a lot better than what shad would’ve made purely bc you’re using a real dragon slayer which I don’t think shad would’ve done 17:26 good to note that shad was talking in context of super strength

Here's the one thing I think Shad got it severely wrong The crude way of swordsmanship you achieve with the broad giant sword is the best thing you can with those slabs of metal imo Since those things major advantage is its weight Compared to normal swords of it's size, It would weigh atleast 8~10 times those of the same length caliber plus the weight you used for the swing, especially from the back muscles. It won't bounce but cleave through, dent or chip but won't bounce since you won't find armor that would have the density to produce a counterforce to make it bounce, I mean where would you find body armor that has atleast 34~40 kilos of material density for every part of it, From helmet to greaves. At that point it'd be better to just cast a man to metal.

Get this guy a powered exoskeleton. Someone must wield the Dragonslayer for real.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

I'm going to need the 324lb version if we're going full exoskeleton. Lol

@DGneoseeker1

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178 That, and a dragon.

I love how the sheer mass actually changes everything: No need for edge alignment cuz it digs in no matter what, also it messes the balance tremendously as we can see the body movement actually a lot differ from the usual light swords (light as adjective lmao). I don't think even super heavy human would change it that much since human density is no where near metal means a dude even super strong the mass relation still wouldn't change. This is so interesting that brings something non-human scale to human-scale very very interesting tests. Be safe!

You're one mad lad! Love it :)

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Motivation! Thank you Exile!

I hope you picked up those bits of bucket! Nice video.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Me too! I think I ate them.... ;)

Where did you buy this? And could it be available for purchase on the same place? I didnt hear you when you said where you got it from. Dont wannna seem like a copy but i really want a dragonslayer and have been for quite a time

so basically fighting with a giant sword its like you are a chainsaw. very good at cutting things so long as you have gas at the tank. just subbed really liked the video

I have been working on my own for a while and have found that you can have a oversized blade with a narrower profile, and still get the same benefits as if it were wider. Taking the Golden Age sword and mixing it with the Dragon Slayer getting a type of large twohanded Jian in a sense. I have only had heavy wood to work with in my case so being able to make a forged sword in the design I have I would prefer so I can test my style out. I don't feel so alone in my efforts to find the use of heavy blades though and appreciate the knowledge from this.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

With the Golden Age Raider sword you can still have great destructive potential and force of impact. But weight still does play a factor, more weight does equate to more work, but it also increases force and energy unleashed upon the target. We'll see. I much farther to go, studying, practicing and training to do! Thanks for reaching out!

I think if someone wanted to create a more practical combat style with a collosal greatsword, they would need to redesign the weapon itself; a traditional flat plane presents so many problems and shortcomings due to its mass distribution that could be avoided with a few design quirks specific to addressing the use of a weapon of that size.

@Rakaziel

Жыл бұрын

If you follow it to its logical conclusion you get the glaive or poleaxe

@InfinityZwei

Жыл бұрын

@@Rakaziel Pretty much. A poleaxe is essentially the net benefit of a colossal greatsword as a driven mass, albiet with a reduced interior threat range. A glaive (or more specifically, a naginata) carries over most of the threat range benefit but loses a lot of mass. If you wanted to build something with the benefits of both, something more akin to a fantasy swordspear might get you closer to the ideal middleground. For retaining the greatsword design, a redesigned ricasso to serve with a shoulder pivot as part of the design coupled with a depreciated or hollow flute would help offset the mass manipulation by providing more appropriate fulcrum. Still not ideal against human opponents due to the lack of speed, but the weapon concept was invented in fantasy to fight inhuman ones anyway.

0:30 hearing you say that, i just realized when Guts does his 100 daily sword swings he's replicating his 100 Man-Slayer feat, _as practice_

Get this man some giant metal pauldrons! I do think this is a neat idea of comparing using a giant sword with real human strength vs the theory crafting of a giant sword with super human strength. These tests better show how gravity effects the blade, which is neat. I enjoy your current sword, and it would be interesting to see other designs in practice too, and how that would change things up, not just with the blade. Perhaps some kind of cross guard would be helpful for finding alternate resting positions, like the shoulder one. Especially if it was formed more to fit the shoulder/pauldron. Perhaps a more single blade design, with the other side having the freedom to have things like hand rests on it. It's so massive that you could even have the last 1/3 of the blade still be double bladed, and not really effect the lethality of being hit with either side. In any case, this is my first vid I've seen of you, and I'm glad you're making content :)

Buckets and trees, the worst enemy of swordsmen since... sliced bread?

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Since the dark days of lumber gathering stone age people.

Very entertaining and respectful Response. I like it

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

i never knew i needed this info, but i did. thanks!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Happy New Year!

It's a shield, no it's a sword, It's a sword, no it's a shield, It's a shield, no it's a sword...

4:30 Now THATS a lotta damage!

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

It's ok. You should see me cut a cake or 3 pumpkins in a row! :)

that thing is so sick just standing there stuck in the ground. badass

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

You should see it the other 99% when it's tearing through wood, targets, random helpless furniture, body armor, water jugs, melons.... good times.

thank you good sir great video, really shows how much of a mosnter Guts is, especially since his technique relies a lot on spins

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Guts is truly larger than life!

i was on prettyhatemachining's channel watching him make this sword! I was wondering if the dragonslayer would actually be used once done, I'm so happy to see it is

I've been watching the channel that made that dragon slayer sword and his newest dragon slayer project is really cool to watch

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

There's a significant amount of skill required to build these giant swords that must be mastered. Otherwise they don't function properly. The 324lb Dragonslayer, even though plain seeming is an example if that.

I think that this could be very interesting to explore, but the Dragonslayer is just too thick (the width is fine, it's clearly important to the design), if some weight-reducing techniques were used, it would likely be way more reasonable to use. Putting in a fuller (or multiple), giving it a distal taper, and having a longer handle would really make it so much easier to use.

Interested in where you got your Zweihander? It's my favorite design of it

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Cold Steel Armory.

YT reccomended this right after I watched Shad's one, while his theories is based on how the wielder posses anime strength to literally swing giant swords like cardboard, some of your approach as human-strength giant sword wielder honestly is really interesting. Like the holding the blade technique and how it turned out to be weaker than just holding the grip with two hands, and the insight of spin technique helped a great deal for me to imagine how much inhumane your strength need to be to realistically spin giant swords that way.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

The spinning moves or "Shad-Whirl" as I like to call it now, is a good prepatory movement for attacks as it does remove the need to lift, leverage or swing the sword. But it call into question my need for head protection if I am to do it again. Thank you for watching!

Holy shit dude. That's supposed to be a tool of fiction, you sir, are a cartoon hero. Bravo

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Motivation! I'm already improving. I have two other videos as well you might like! Colossus Sword Workout #1 and Combo #1! Thank you and Happy New Year!

Why do you remind me of Solider Boy from THE BOYS? Good video!

This was definitely an interesting thing to watch. I had seen Shad's video and figured that yeah, allowing for extraordinary conditions such as the lighter metal, super strength, and so on, it would be plausible. Seeing this video does sort of confirm that in my eyes- this sort of weapon, without at least one of the aforementioned caveats, would be less effective than, say, the zweihander you showed in a real combat, just due to the ease of use and greater agility provided by a weapon that's, what, 1/4th the weight in comparison? However, that kind of brutal power is nothing to sneeze at- I used to strength train with absurdly large weapons like that (using wood, because poor) and myself along with family and friends would get in on 'sparring' with other wooden weapons we had. Unfortunately it got to the point where I wasn't allowed to use the massive, literally-a-tree-trunk-with-a-handle weapons I was training with, because nobody else could use them or defend themselves against it. So there's definitely an argument for that kind of raw power. And, I will add, my experience is far more on the club side of massive weapons, not swords and the like, but I did still apply some greatsword techniques I read about, like Montontey (I know I spelled that wrong) and also some eastern techniques I picked up from my taekwondo class's weapon instruction course, using a Kenabo to combine stave and sword techniques. In summary, I forget my point, but it is neat to see others doing something with weapons of mass destruction like this. Definitely going to keep an eye out for further discussion on the matter.

i think when Shad was talking about bouncing back he meant it in a fantasy world that there are strong enough people who can bounce your weapon back

I wonder if making a special left handed glove specifically to allow your inner part of your hand to be able to hold the sword would open up other possibilities. You could use a mix of chainmail and thin metal sheets to make flexible areas around your palm and fingers.

I will deny that it CLANGS with all my being until my LAST BREATH

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Lol. The power of the human will!

A thought for continuing on this topic, what if you were in a fuller kit of medieval armor, with a layer of padding and chain mail to go under the plate, would you be able to then grab it more easily, since they would be harder to cut into and be able to absorb more if used for impact

Who built and where did you get the sword?

this got me thinking what if the sword was 10 pounds lighter or something along those lines, there has to be a sweetspot there between size and weight, I was on the fence before I watched this video but now im more interested, Nice work!

tbh, I think the dragonslayer goes too far in its design. I think the idea for a more mass-focused style is feasible for battlefields and in fact we see some ideas for larger blades that were used as anti-cavalry weapons as their primary use(see nodachi). Also, using the basic design of the Zweihander but going thicker and heavier would also help for leverage. Having a crossguard for using the high carry that Shad shows is also good. Basically, the idea is possibly feasible. But you may need a different design of blade to execute it. Guts' sword is not based on reality, after all. Even assuming you didn't change the blade, I think you need a different handle design to help you. Longer handle with more countermass in the pommel area. Pommel should have a loop so you can pull it from there. Better crossguard. It needs something like a mix between a zweihander and a scythe. This would improve the leverage significantly and possibly improve which positions you could start to cut from. I personally think that lowering the mass, but increasing the speed would also help. keep in mind that power is a function of mass and acceleration. So moving it faster will obviously help keep its cutting power while simultaneously giving the ability to use it better in both catching people and reducing strain. Even a slight reduction in weight will probably feel significant in terms of using it. You won't need to go too far. Lastly, I am going to say that this style def needs to be used with a decent amount of armor. reason one is because you need to guard the arms and legs in a duel. This style is slow enough that sniping your hands is how it would lose pretty handily to most duelists. You'd need proper protection to prevent it and your guard needs to be specialized for leverage instead of hand protection. Second reason is to add to your effective mass relative to the weapons. It will allow you to keep your balance better because the weapons weight wont be able to pull you as much on full swings. Lastly, it will help prevent damage to yourself from the weapon when grabbing it or resting it on your body or if you lose your grip on it. Dropping it on your foot would be bad!

Only 506 subs? This has gotta be a crime against humanity on YT's behalf man😂 Your channel is gonna need them 50k+ subs comin' in man, you've earned it at this point I pray for your success dude. Sub earned, naturally...

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Dude it's been an awesome journey. A lot of lessons learned, but we're moving up fast. Thanks for the sub, we're happy to have you here!

I guess Shad's concept is for a much lighter giant sword.

@DigitallyTwistedOutlaws1178

Жыл бұрын

Possibly yes, but without the power from mass it's not really a giant sword. Just an extended regular sword.

Subbed for you man, in a fight you'll be doubting to fight a man with a giant sword up close

What sorta motorcycle jacket do you use? Seen this one pop up all over the place, no clue what it's called. Thanks!