REAL KENJUTSU SPARRING! - Reacting to

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  • @flamezombie1
    @flamezombie13 ай бұрын

    That false edge cut at 2:00 is much more powerful than people realize, too. Tip cuts can do a lot of damage. I think most people who criticize a lot about the 'tippy tappy' actions haven't done many cutting tests. Or aren't in the context of historical duels but thinking of a fight to the death.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    True

  • @Artameful

    @Artameful

    3 ай бұрын

    imo, tippy tappy cuts are perfectly fine to parts of the body that require fine movement. Getting a cut on the hand is *very* debilitating, as it can severely restrict dexterity. A good, deep cut is important to parts of the body that would otherwise not debilitate them. Imagine a paper cut on your arm vs the web of your finger, one sucks, and one REALLY sucks (terrible analogy but you probably get the point.)

  • @flamezombie1

    @flamezombie1

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly, and we see people like Meyer showing very shallow cuts like duplieren all the time. @@Artameful

  • @lamxung5000

    @lamxung5000

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Artameful i always think of it as just cut your opponent and try not to get cut, even if it's a small cut I don't think anybody would want to get cut.

  • @stephena1196

    @stephena1196

    15 күн бұрын

    ​​@@ArtamefulI once had an accident in metalwork class at school and cut the back of my finger. It was quite shallow, but I went into shock: I quickly got tunnel vision and felt dizzy and had to sit down. A cut really doesn't have to be deep to be debilitating.

  • @warrikata
    @warrikata3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the breakdown! You're one of my favorite sword channels to watch, and I'm an online student of Seki-sensei, so I'm very happy to see your reaction and review! He is such a smooth and fluid swordsman, and a wonderful instructor. 🤗

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    I bet he is, I have a huge respect for him.

  • @PalleRasmussen

    @PalleRasmussen

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@FedericoMalaguttiit is hard not to. He has such a kind, joyful and humble approach to his fighting it would seem.

  • @twinjunomusic

    @twinjunomusic

    3 ай бұрын

    thats so cool! I wanna be a student, I watch all the videos and practice as much kata as i can repeat, but i cant afford the classes unfortunately, if you have some tips and tricks, or any Seki-sensei quotes you can drop for me that aren't on the channel id love to hear it!

  • @warrikata

    @warrikata

    3 ай бұрын

    @@twinjunomusic Shogo just released two at home training videos, a 4 minute workout and 7 minute workout, with the basics. I would start there! I'm sure we all look forward to training with you soon!

  • @badrequest5596
    @badrequest55963 ай бұрын

    When light sparring we also tend to do it kinda like they do, we keep going and dont reset. Just announce the hit and keep going. This week we did a very interesting spar where each would stand in a small square close to each other. The objective was to continuously attack and defend without moving away, you could also only move one step to the right or left. Even if we got hit, counter it. And non stop for 2 min, which doesnt seem like a long time but when you dont stop, it absolutely wore you out. Very fun though

  • @jrlonergan6773
    @jrlonergan67733 ай бұрын

    Love this video. This type of breakdown is fascinating

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @sirxarounthefrenchy7773
    @sirxarounthefrenchy77733 ай бұрын

    Very nice video ! I hope Seki Sensei and shogo see it

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @lukeman9851
    @lukeman98513 ай бұрын

    It's always fascinating to see how in so many martial arts, mastery is shown in control of distance, angle, timing, and not wasting energy.

  • @uncabob214
    @uncabob2143 ай бұрын

    As a comparison, I'm a swimming teacher. One of the most important things for beginners to learn, especially for being on their back, is relaxation. If a person is tense in the water they'll sink, and if they're supported enough to stay up by something like a noodle or board (or teacher) they'll be very unsteady. And when you're learning and improving your strokes you want both the limbs and body to be able to extend and hold, but not lockdown completely. The most obvious example is in the flutterkick, the basic up/down kick everyone starts with that's used in freestyle and backstroke. A good flutterkick is powered from the hip and thighs with your legs fully extended to pointed toes, but not rigid. Then as you kick the motion should gently but swiftly shift the entire leg a small distance up and down in the water, which goes against natural instincts to press hard and long with the feet from the knee in a running motion. This bent action is less efficient at moving the swimmier and worse at the most important job flutterkick has: supporting the less bouyant lower half of the body so the arms can pull you along. And until a person is able to relax and understand their movements and posture, they'll just keep tensing up and sinking.

  • @Cerberusarms
    @Cerberusarms2 ай бұрын

    Great and insightful video, really appreciate the respect you show for other martial arts. It's a sign of skill to be humble and show interest in learning instead of pretending to know everything like 99% of KZread commenters on sword videos. Big fan, been getting more into hema lately and you've been a huge inspiration.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @Nyx_2142

    @Nyx_2142

    7 күн бұрын

    Huh. Didn't expect to see you here. Glad to see you are still going strong, and still keeping Node going.

  • @Leif3GHP
    @Leif3GHP3 ай бұрын

    This is a great video! I need to find some people who want to swordfight. 😩

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    I bet you’ll find someone! For sure!!

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi2 ай бұрын

    This was fun thanks for posting

  • @jeffjessen3073
    @jeffjessen30733 ай бұрын

    Great video. Appreciate the positive feedback much more than the much more usual criticism. Thank you!

  • @wodenpwn
    @wodenpwn3 ай бұрын

    It takes so little power to cut flesh with a sharp sword, and all sorts of important tendons and veins are right near the surface on the arms and legs, so false edge and single handed strikes would absolutely do critical damage to limbs.

  • @atom8248

    @atom8248

    3 ай бұрын

    Some large swings with one hand like Seki-sensei did against Shogo's leg would be pretty comparable to may two-handed cuts I believe. Especially holding it further down with the left hand.

  • @kaizen5023
    @kaizen50233 ай бұрын

    Excellent commentary, thank you and keep up the good work!

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @tho4747
    @tho47473 ай бұрын

    Some years ago they had a show longsword fight, on Swordfish, where they didn’t stop before the 2 minutts was over. Its like kick boxing point vs semi/full contact. Ie much harder.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I did it a number of times. We also have a tournament in rome similar to it.

  • @MrFiremagnet
    @MrFiremagnet2 ай бұрын

    Didn't know they do contact sparring in Kenjutsu. Interesting. I thought that fighting technique of Japanese sword and longsword are somewhat similar, but there were quite a few of techniques that you just don't see in HEMA. For example, parries and using the lever to push the opponent's sword away to create an opening. I mean, of course there are some techniques with a similar purpose, but in here it looked a lot more different. And continuing fighting after taking hits is an interesting practice. Pausing a duel after each hit is something that I kind of never understood in HEMA outside of competitive sparring.

  • @Ianmar1

    @Ianmar1

    Ай бұрын

    They used to during the late Edo period through the Meiji restoration, but it was not the combat simulation which we think it should be today. Shinkage ryu and its descendant styles use the fukuro shinai in their kata so they may train forms at higher intensity. The headmaster of Jikishinkage ryu grew frustrated with the "dead" kata of his students so he developed a mask and gloves and instructed his students to strike eachother in the style of his ryuha until he was satisfied thus uchikomi keiko or striking practice was born. This striking practice was later gamified in the Nakanishi-ha itto ryu giving us gekiken. The rules, students and techniques of the Hokushin itto ryu came to dominate the gekiken phenomenon to the extent that the styles of other ryuha were lost to history. This sport was finally renamed to kendo at the turn of the 20th century. This sparring of Seki sensei is a modern creation to suppliment his traditional instruction. Check out (Chiba-ha) Hokushin itto ryu and Tennen Rishin ryu for more kenjutsu sparring, or Haga-ha kendo for what kendo was like.

  • @Ombradivolpe
    @Ombradivolpe3 ай бұрын

    Need more of this

  • @Primalintent
    @Primalintent3 ай бұрын

    I think there's also definitely the factor that this is Seki-sensei's student, and he probably recognizes most of the attacks his student plans to take. And as Shogo says, the student is a bit timid and you can see him hesitate or panic when Seki-sensei stays firm and advances unafraid. And then we see that inversion with Shogo facing the more experienced student. Seki-sensei is definitely very impressive, but he is also so confident because he knows and trains the student he faces there, which makes him appear flawless. If he faced a practitioner he was unfamiliar with I'm sure he would be much more cautious. Not saying he is lacking in skill or courage, of course, just acknowledging that Seki-sensei is in his element here.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Someone else linked another Seki Sensei fight, against another Sensei above, really interesting!

  • @madeline6815

    @madeline6815

    2 ай бұрын

    I would add that, especially at the end, Seki-sensei was attacking in order to teach Shogo what he is doing wrong.

  • @henryposadas3309

    @henryposadas3309

    Күн бұрын

    He has different videos fighting non students, He always fights like this. Calm.

  • @corrugatedcavalier5266
    @corrugatedcavalier52663 ай бұрын

    Cool to get your take on this!

  • @michaelliu1361
    @michaelliu136127 күн бұрын

    Great video! Seki sensei has some interesting spareing videos against different styles as well. One was against a professiona Kendoka under kendo rules and then kobudo rules. His spar against Tak was also a very exciting bout as well!

  • @TheCCBoi
    @TheCCBoi3 ай бұрын

    You should watch some of the sparring videos on their Japanese channel - Seki Sensei goes hard on there.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    They just shared one with me. Gorgeous, I wasn’t aware of the other channel unluckily! But now I have a lot of stuff to watch it seems lol

  • @puliturchannel7225
    @puliturchannel7225Ай бұрын

    I find it great that when you look at the presenter's and sensei's sparring, the presenter is watching his sensei's sword all the time, and that means that he although doesn't lean forward he keeps his hands too much in front and not relaxed, because he isn't watching the whole playfield so to speak. Well, it is really that he doesn't suck in fencing, it is just fun to see him making a mistake that I myself might sometimes uncociously do in HEMA, and it teaches me to notice that caught in the film, even with other system and a guy.

  • @jamestickle3070
    @jamestickle307026 күн бұрын

    Very interesting

  • @Ianmar1
    @Ianmar1Ай бұрын

    There is an expression which the koryu guys at the dojo where I train (kendo) claim is of old Japanese origin: a big cut is a stupid cut. The big body mechanics of their kata are paedagogical to teach proper engagement of the back and displacement of the body when trying to nick an artery as their style instructs. Strong dismembering strokes and tameshigiri practice is the bravado of peacetime styles with no better way to show off their power.

  • @farhanbarwis8625
    @farhanbarwis862519 күн бұрын

    you gotta watch Seki Sensei's spar with a youtuber name Crazy Musashi TAK. In that video, he spar really fast and the leg attack parry to me was impressive.

  • @Manweor
    @Manweor3 ай бұрын

    Some attacks have an infamous reputation but this arises from bad execution. A 1-h cut is from long range can be terrific if well executed. Of course, since it has no structure it needs goid dynamics. The issue is that sometimes an attack is delivered with a very short arc and even leather gloves would stop it.

  • @_cyantist
    @_cyantist3 ай бұрын

    at around 7:37 he was referring to the the tsuka or the handle of the sword being round (instead of more rectangular which means that edge alignment is not a factor) not the blade of the sword

  • @armandblake
    @armandblake2 ай бұрын

    Seki Sensei is very relaxed and in control, he puts constant pressure on the opponent, in kendo we call that “Seme”

  • @Ianmar1

    @Ianmar1

    Ай бұрын

    Here he is doing kendo kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYVow4-smc2rfqQ.htmlsi=-FdK799ZD3mOzyjT Seme is better still

  • @galadballcrusher8182

    @galadballcrusher8182

    13 сағат бұрын

    Hmmm i heard the term before but about a different kind of "swordfight"....yaoi....so if that is called Seme the opponent on receiving end is considered Uke? 😂

  • @joaomanoel3197
    @joaomanoel31973 ай бұрын

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @AngloSaxon1
    @AngloSaxon13 ай бұрын

    This was very interesting, although I have been training in the English martial arts for over thirty years now, I also trained Iain, and Kenjutsu for a few years as well, and received gradings in those arts. So I have a small understanding of how these systems work. The English martial arts depend wholly on the principles of the art, which teaches you about distance and judgment of distance, as well as many other things. In the English two hand sword we use single hand techniques as well as stopping with single hand stops/blocks. So what you are seeing in this video is also used in English two hand sword as well. There is nothing new under the sun.

  • @outerlast
    @outerlast3 ай бұрын

    try reviewing his sparring videos in his japanese channel too. there's one where he was being hit by younger guy and falling. it was pretty amazing (because it's rare seeing a sensei being handled like that)

  • @Leif3GHP
    @Leif3GHP15 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the modern man's perspective on violence and the benefits of the modern world. However, you would be surprised at the number of people who do want the opportunity to fight with swords. It wasn't so long ago, during the world wars, that the German officer's faces were famously scarred from saber dueling. There is a universe where sword fighting comes back into vogue and for those people who are currently soldiers, they're still exposed to killing in the modern day.

  • @OrdemDoGraveto
    @OrdemDoGraveto3 ай бұрын

    I believe he meant figthing with THIS bamboo swords AND protection wouldn't hurt. And they don't use the steel katanas for sparing because of the cultural significance.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh of course, anyway, I talked about my experience, not theirs.

  • @OrdemDoGraveto

    @OrdemDoGraveto

    3 ай бұрын

    @@FedericoMalagutti Yeah. Just a small correction, because his line was indeed dubious as in what he meant.

  • @thatonepersonwhoair-dropsy268
    @thatonepersonwhoair-dropsy268Ай бұрын

    As a Kendoka, the whole attack and continue on is very common in sparring, at least in my experience, and is hard to get used to if you, like me, free-style sparred with brothers or are just not an aggressive person, then you could lose some fairly easy points. Great stuff all around though, especially from Tsugara-san (I believe that his name)

  • @Ianmar1

    @Ianmar1

    28 күн бұрын

    That is sutemi, but for some reason we call it zanshin. Traditionally sutemi means that you hold nothing back for after the attack whereas zanshin means you hold about 20% back for the followup attack. This is confusion which we allow beginners (0-2dan) to have as we learn ki-ken-tai icchi. This confusion is something which you will rarely see in competitive kendo. Zanshin can never mean to show an opponent, even a defeated opponent, your back.

  • @randallsanchez3161
    @randallsanchez31612 ай бұрын

    It would be interesting to see if there are any differences if they used something closer to actual katana weights. You average shinai is about 1/3 of the actual weight of an average sized katana. Your average training feder is the same weight as a average katana. That light weight makes many of those flicking attack extremely fast with a shinai but could they do the same with something heavier? That's one of my biggest gripes when comparing training between the two types of martial arts. I'm really surprised that there hasn't been a push for that kind of thing in various Kenjutsu schools at least but not surprised about Kendo as that would turn it on its head.

  • @Ianmar1

    @Ianmar1

    Ай бұрын

    These are not finesse weapons. The body is the limiting factor for attack speed in most approaches to kenjutsu that I am aware of.

  • @geridollison3632
    @geridollison36322 ай бұрын

    You should check out weaponism. They are very forard thinking wrt sparring and training tools.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    2 ай бұрын

    I know them, yep yep

  • @MrBatraaf
    @MrBatraaf2 ай бұрын

    Interesting comments. Even if you wear a fencing mask, a direct stab to the face with a padded foam weapon is not a pleasant experience. To me it feels like someone hitting you with a boxing glove. In our school stabs to the face are forbidden but hits are allowed.

  • @Ianmar1

    @Ianmar1

    Ай бұрын

    A lot of old kendo photos exhibit a thrust to the face mask. This target area was quickly discontinued because it caused too many neck injuries.

  • @jackmak2980
    @jackmak29803 ай бұрын

    Fight him

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh, I would definitely enjoy to have a chance to train and spar with them, using their methods. The problem is the entirety of the planet being between us mostly, besides other aspects XD

  • @warrikata

    @warrikata

    3 ай бұрын

    @@FedericoMalagutti there's a training camp coming up in May! lol

  • @B..B.
    @B..B.2 ай бұрын

    I'm honest. The problem with hema is that a big number of practitioners try to exactly replicate the manuals and they forgot that the manuals are basic useful techniques, and cry about unorthodox things that work. And I personally dislike the full set of protection. I really enjoy more using some well build, kinda hard boffer weapons, it helps to evolve the reflexes and the skill to use active protection and not always getting hit cause the gear will diminishe the damage. But the egocentric attitude towards using creative techniques and the mindset of duelling only... Sometimes even if defeat is certain is funny to spar in groups and against groups, more like battlefield and not duel... Lets remember that this is my experience with hema practitioners, and that is not a lot of it. I know outer there has some good groups.

  • @davidtwchan4925
    @davidtwchan49253 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your breakdown, and I love your channel ! Perhaps you may have watched already, the following is the link to video with 5 Kenjutsu free sparring, and at 3:36 Seki Sensei sparred with another Sensei . Both are equal on skills and confidence. And I look forward to your valuable breakdown from your point of view kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4p-0LaGh7O2acY.htmlsi=Iajpb9SWq2ClQ9yn

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh thank you for this! I will maybe react to it in the future!

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    I just watched this video. Is freaking amazing, being everyone there at a higher level of competence. Looking forward to break it down. If you find anything similar hard to access for me (namely only Japanese titles etc.) I would encourage you to send me the link. Thank you very much.

  • @davidtwchan4925

    @davidtwchan4925

    3 ай бұрын

    @@FedericoMalagutti You are very welcomed! I’m glad that you find those sparring amazing! I’m more than happy to share more when I encounter more. And again, thank you for your breakdown and look forward to your more comments on those sparring

  • @YannKastell
    @YannKastell3 ай бұрын

    I'd say that a light, false-edge cut to the hands are, most of the time in hema, too weak to injure anyone. Were we not wearing gloves It'd probably hurt, but it wouldn't incapacitate an opponent (Kinda speak from experience after taking a nasty blow in the hand when I was doing medieval reenactment). In a real fight, I'd consider this upward cut too risky because of how we expose the upper-body. But as always, awesome analysis. Thank you for your work !

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't know! I honestly think it is quite safe to land that action with proper distance management, rather than building up some complex technique to get, say, the head, which has many components (everyone of it which can go wrong). An about the "power" of the strike, the thingers are on the handle, it is like snapping a 1.5 kilos kitchen knife with far more leverage against 4 little sausages on top of a wooden plan. Anyway, as any blow can be landed in a good or bad way, and it can have success or fail. But in an unarmored fight (which both the above training and hema training tend to replicate) is quite good.

  • @atom8248

    @atom8248

    3 ай бұрын

    @@FedericoMalagutti Skallagrim tried it with a hand-analogue and while it didn't sever the entire hand he managed to badly damage it with a very light false edge cut. It's not a perfect test but I feel like the guy above was probably hit with a blunt sword in the hand and not a sharp. Even if it doesn't incapacitate the opponent any hit you can do without receiving one yourself is good enough and it would probably have a negative effect on my handling of the weapon if my finger was half cut-through. I don't understand the assessment of the technique as "not safe enough", it's an action so safe that you almost receive mockery in the hema community for doing it.

  • @Curie_ELiTE
    @Curie_ELiTE3 ай бұрын

    You should react to the video they made where they fight with european swords (for first time in their lives). You will see Sensei's true skill shine through the exploration of the european style sword vs katana style (while fighting with it, not while practicing or studying). You will prob even recognize some real techniques (and he doesnt know its actual real techniques from real life. His instinct simply makes him do em bc the warrior in him can tell this is the optimal way. He is beyond amazing.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    I actually answered to it a couple months ago, heheh.

  • @Curie_ELiTE

    @Curie_ELiTE

    3 ай бұрын

    @@FedericoMalagutti Omg I skimmed through your channel to check but I must have missed it.. Ima have to look better :D Id love to see that one too :) Thx, is awesome to get an actual western style fighters comments and perspectives.

  • @nachtschattenmacher
    @nachtschattenmacher2 ай бұрын

    That's why you need a Pommel which helps/allows you to controll Egde alignment with the left Hand

  • @gorbalsboy
    @gorbalsboy3 ай бұрын

    Always wondered about the lack of sparring in kenjutsu and other Asian weapon systems, as this is where you find what works for you, with Hemas lack of so called 'living tradtion' compared to say kenjutsu, hema proves itself a 'true martial art' thru its emphasis on sparring, great stuff big chap, all the best from sunny Troon 😊

  • @Ianmar1

    @Ianmar1

    Ай бұрын

    They used to during the late Edo period through the Meiji restoration, but it was not the combat simulation which we think it should be today. Shinkage ryu and its descendant styles use the fukuro shinai in their kata so they may train forms at higher intensity. The headmaster of Jikishinkage ryu grew frustrated with the "dead" kata of his students so he developed a mask and gloves and instructed his students to strike eachother in the style of his ryuha until he was satisfied thus uchikomi keiko or striking practice was born. This striking practice was later gamified in the Nakanishi-ha itto ryu giving us gekiken. The rules, students and techniques of the Hokushin itto ryu came to dominate the gekiken phenomenon to the extent that the styles of other ryuha were lost to history. This sport was finally renamed to kendo at the turn of the 20th century. This sparring of Seki sensei is a modern creation to suppliment his traditional instruction. Check out (Chiba-ha) Hokushin itto ryu and Tennen Rishin ryu for more traditional kenjutsu sparring, or Haga-ha kendo for what kendo was like.

  • @aren8798
    @aren879824 күн бұрын

    I don’t think they are legit

  • @Ianmar1

    @Ianmar1

    23 күн бұрын

    In what sense?

  • @aren8798

    @aren8798

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@Ianmar1 Hi Ianmar, There is a balance between not insulting people and yet, at the same time, I feel like I need to give you an honest reply which will come across as insulting to some people. So below, I will respectfully give more detail. If they are willing to express their views publically on KZread, then I hope they are willing for me to share my opinion on their video publically. Despite the fact that Seki Sensei has some obvious skill and coordination, the information shared in the videos is not only incomplete but also 180° from reality. In other words, not only are the videos not expressing accurate technique, but also giving bad information and misleading those who would watch it. People are being mis-informed aka, bad information. I have respect for people who train hard and consistently (It isn't their fault if what they are doing isn't logical/good technique). Shugo has trained for 9 years, and is legitimately trying to create videos the best way he knows how. I just think that he has strayed from the path of reality. I don't think he is purposely mis-informing people. He is just confused. Again, despite the fact that Seki Sensei has some obvious skill and talent. That doesn't mean that the information and explanations he is showing in the video are accurate. I went down the rabbit hole of their videos watching over five hours of their content. My past knowledge: based on other sword schools I've visited, martial-artists I've talked to, and years of experience leads me to disagree with very fundamental aspects of what is claimed as being "true" or correct with respects to kenjutsu and related arts (battojutsu, iaijutsu...etc) It is because of these discrepancies that leads me to believe that their art, as it currently is in 2024 isn't 100% legit. Meaning, a lot of information has been lost, or has been transmitted with error. One example: Let me direct you to this video where they talk about chiburi being "useless" even though it is well documented historically and with any number of schools. See their video below. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aI1q2c5ukpfcp9I.html -------------------------- Observation: Perspective Across his videos, he is sparring against people who have little skill. You can tell that his opponents are moving poorly. For example: An advanced musician would make a beginner look bad. However, judge that advanced musician against an absolute professional and you would have a different perspective. ------------------- If you have an open mind about it. Let me give my opinion on just a short part of the video so you can see how I view the information. I'm not trying to go against or for the video, just showing you my thought process. Start video @3:50 Shugo, "Even if you are good at sparring with fugoshinai, it doesn't prove that you are good at fighting with a katana." My thoughts: I agree 100% with the statement above. There is some cross-over with regards to using a sword and shinai such as timing, range etc. Shugo, "Even if you are good at sparring with fugoshinai, it doesn't prove that you are good at fighting with a katana."... he goes on to say, "This is because of three main reasons. 1. It's not curved 2. The tsuka is round (Since the "blade" of the Shinai is also round, this also doesn't matter so much) 3. It's a lot lighter " The three reasons above are true, but I wouldn't consider those the "three main reasons". 1. Not curved - I agree, having a curved blade changes a lot about how it functions...but that doesn't matter if the blade-end doesn't have an edge at all. Katana have different sori [the specific curve each katana]. 2. The tsuka is round - Way more critical is the fact that there is no edge. Cutting with a sword is done by keeping the blade's edge on plane. If there is no plane then it is the same as swinging a bo (wooden staff). The round tsuka is secondary to that fact. Since it is round, you don't know where the blade (or mune) would be facing. You also can't take the exact same sword grip on a circular tsuka. The grip is so critical to cutting correctly (go rin no sho for reference). 3. It's a lot lighter. - Yes, that is true, it isn't steel. But just as important as weight is the weight distribution. The shinai has a homoginous weight from the kashira to the kisaki. A steel katana (full nakago or not) will have a lot more weight at kissaki's end. This changes a lot of things. In short, the three above are minor issues compared to... What they are doing is not really combat sparring. It is a game of tag. They are using the shinai like a stick and not like a sword. They are flicking with their hands and not actually doing technique that would actually cut through someone in combat. They are not moving and swinging the shinai as if it was a katana. They are using it as a stick with "flicking" movements. "Short sword mincing." Most [not all] of their techniques would not actually cut through someone. They wouldn't use that technique when trying to cut tatame (especially with a bamboo core). So, if they wouldn't work in combat, why are they using it when sparring? You see this a lot with sparring in modern martial-arts tournaments. Much of it is a and not representing combat. Really, there are other reasons why, but the above is 99% of it. If you aren't actually using a shinai as a sword then you aren't training in kenjutsu. Some other things, There is no edge, no mune. The blade end and the tsuka are both round so they can't evne hold the weapon correctly. If your grip is wrong, then that messes up everything. What they are doing is more like people sparring with "light sabers". So my major issue isn't that they are holding a shinai actually, it is that they aren't using it like a katana. Why do I think they aren't legit? Because of the culmination of all that I saw on their youtube channels.

  • @Erik-nz2yy

    @Erik-nz2yy

    6 күн бұрын

    @@aren8798all this video shows is his familiarity with the tools he has at hand.

  • @vishnudas3328
    @vishnudas3328Ай бұрын

    shogo is sooo annoying!!

  • @beaudilecaliste6545
    @beaudilecaliste65453 ай бұрын

    *How about making your own original content instead on "reacting" to (i.e. stealing) others' videos?*

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    Ahahahahahah! First of all, I own this channel since seven years and I publish videos weekly. From your comment I understand you don’t know me or my channel as this is MY FIRST REACTION EVER on top of hundreds of videos. And second, I wrote an E-mail to Shogo and Seki-Sensei asking if they would be ok if I react to their videos, they answered yes, and they even encouraged me to do it more in the future. This is far more than what the average KZreadr does btw. Thanks for your comment.

  • @beardedninja8377

    @beardedninja8377

    2 ай бұрын

    Wtf kind of comment is this ? I dont know where youre from but in the western world there is a thing known as fair use. Its not like he went to the bathroom while the video played without any interactions like some popular streamers enjoy doing these days.

  • @phma
    @phma3 ай бұрын

    It's not really sparring if your not even using any protective gear.

  • @FedericoMalagutti

    @FedericoMalagutti

    3 ай бұрын

    I don’t think so. Most of the sparring carried out back in the days, by the same people we received our hundreds years old swordfighting knowledge was carried out in this way.

  • @phma

    @phma

    3 ай бұрын

    I suppose that's a good point, maybe I should say it's not really sparring by "modern definition" I personally don't see the point in not taking advantage of modern technology. That's akin to saying "we don't spar in this style because it's too dangerous or other such BS that was very common in martial arts in the past decades.@@FedericoMalagutti

  • @josephlucas4024

    @josephlucas4024

    3 ай бұрын

    I would argue that sparring in minimal gear has its advantages​ compared to using modern protective gear. For example, you are able to do techniques more realistically because you aren't restricted by bulky elbow pads or gorgets. Another is that you have much better visibility compared to a claustrophobic helmet that covers your peripheral vision. Even if no one solution is perfect, it's always good to take advantage of all the tools at your disposal instead of making the issue so black and white.

  • @badrequest5596

    @badrequest5596

    3 ай бұрын

    You can light spar without protective gear or least minimal gear. It's also a great way to restrain yourself and focus on doing the techniques properly, which some are difficult to do with a lot of gear on. I have difficulty doing a zwerchhau with lobster gloves for example

  • @phma

    @phma

    3 ай бұрын

    Yepp sparring light is great, but if I cant even poke you in the face without doing you grievous bodily harm we're not really "sparring" we're doing something else. @@badrequest5596

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