The carbon fiber hull they were inside of is completely disintegrated. The big pieces you're looking at are the outer shell flattened together. It's essentially a petri dish. Any "remains" are basically smears. I'm sure they heard cracking, which is why they dropped weights and tried to resurface. But the millisecond it got a hole, it was the equivalent of 9 empire state buildings filled with lead on them. They didn't feel a thing

@thedbcooperforum

Жыл бұрын

I have a feeling of the same, the carbon failed and imploded, during the implosion it finds weak spots and that was the window..put the cap on a Pringles can and step on it..the cap flys off..

@connorhart7597

Жыл бұрын

It was cracking on the last voyage. This guy knew what he was doing was stupid. I just hope the passengers were properly informed

@FinalLugiaGuardian

Жыл бұрын

They might not have even heard cracking. Carbon fiber doesn't give as many warning signs it is about to fail compared to metal.

@pS-sv3pm

Жыл бұрын

Idk, there's no glass in the porthole. We know it wasn't rated for this depth. Maybe that's what broke first?

@daddyknowsbest2341

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. We are supposed to believe that the implosion destroyed carbon fiber, but there are still human remains. We’re these people super heroes made of steel. Something is off about this story.

It's amazing that any remains still exist. When this much pressure collapses on air, it heats it up to temperatures rivaling the sun. I am surprised they were not vaporized. Unless, they just found some fragments of bones.

@denveyebanks4787

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree

@ronaldtilley4936

Жыл бұрын

You'd think but in general there's a lot more of it they found then I thought wouldn't it be in worse shape?

@rejuvenator8966

Жыл бұрын

Well it doesn't really rival the sun then if any human remains did not get atomised. Aint no bones ever gonna survive the sun

@joehuff4025

Жыл бұрын

Probably slammed up in the end caps, when the middle got crushed it forces everything to the ends.

@jakson11

Жыл бұрын

Why do people keep repeating this lie? There is no heat generated other than heat from the friction of an implosion. I had to research this because I keep seeing it repeated so much, it's not true at all. Gets no where close to the surface of the sun

Such a nice kid Suleman Dawood was. May you rest in peace Suleman.

@Cartman5101

Жыл бұрын

you knew him personally

@kneesoxxx7902

Жыл бұрын

@@Cartman5101lol no

Im astounded that they managed to find what i can only presume is a fragment of bone. The massive pressure differential would have pulped those poor folks. Quick and painless im sure, as one's senses would simply be overwhelmed in an instant, but a hard, grisly way to go out.

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

They were gone before their brain could register what happened.

@audreydaleski1067

Жыл бұрын

Hope it was painless and no prior fear or ither

@TheTeaParty320

Жыл бұрын

Might be a chicken bone thrown off the search vessels.

@hqcart1

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe it did not emplode , rather something went wrong way way up there...

@hqcart1

Жыл бұрын

@youngeazy762 no i am talking about something went wrong before they dive deep, otherwise their remains will vanish, this is the only explanation why there are still remains.

This story just gets more ridiculously unbelievable as time goes on. First they go missing and then the entire world goes looking for them. Then they are presumed to have run out of oxygen, then we learn they imploded days ago. Then they find debris and now they are finding remains.

@Idreallyrathernotthanks

Жыл бұрын

What is it that you find unbelievable? It almost seems like a perfectly logical chain of events to me.

@eazy8052

Жыл бұрын

@@Idreallyrathernotthankshow do you not find these events Unbelievable? Like this is something that goes on all the time lol

@justanotherguy469

Жыл бұрын

And all the while Biden knew.

@Shadow_of_Yharnam

Жыл бұрын

@Robin Masters then you tell us what actually happened then since you’re so smart.

@Hjerte_Verke

Жыл бұрын

Part of the story is, they MUST conduct a search and rescue (or recovery of remains) to confirm the sub imploded and all occupants are dead. But it took too long. Sadly, the Navy and Coast Guard probably knew Sunday night that the sounds they heard after Titan lost contact with the mothership was the sub imploding. All they had to do was match up the timeframe with the recording made by the SOSUS. I think they let the 4 day charade go on too long; might have been to protect and obscure U.S. capabilities from the enemy.

Everyone must keep in mind, up until this point we have never had an implosion of this magnitude at that depth with humans involved. The results have been theory based on what happens during an implosion, The process is so fast there is a chance some parts would get tossed while other parts are completely obliterated.

@Flash3-22

Жыл бұрын

Good point

@alee111

Жыл бұрын

The bifold Dolphin tragedy counts and depending on how close they were to the failure point their center mass (trunk ogmf thier bodies)exploded basically. And there were remains, but they were in an enclosed, intact space.

@RacecarSpelledBackwards71

Жыл бұрын

@@alee111 true, with this one we have a completely new variable with the carbon fiber hull. Guess we will have Dick Stockton Rush to thank for his sacrifice so we can have something prove/disprove all the theories.

@CMM_RIP

Жыл бұрын

The USS Thresher imploded with 120+ souls on board 60 years ago, it’s happened before

@RacecarSpelledBackwards71

Жыл бұрын

@@CMM_RIP yes, but different type of construction & different depth. This will be first time with the carbon fiber hull and end caps that pop off allowing the contents to be spread out. New variable can alter results.

And they laughed at me when I said they will find remains.

@TheIndependentLens

Жыл бұрын

LIAR! Sure and you were originally going to go on that trip, but backed out at the last minute because of a gut feeling . . . These hindsight declarations are hilarious.

@Notfakeultra

Жыл бұрын

Depends on what you feel remains are, there are no bodies

@TheIndependentLens

Жыл бұрын

@@Notfakeultra Teeth can be remains.

@thedbcooperforum

Жыл бұрын

​​there is no such thing as a small leak down there.this is not the movies kids..

@tonymeehan7859

Жыл бұрын

@@Notfakeultra anything flesh would be vaporized

The pieces of wreckage recovered where quite large. Those people didn't disintegrate like was speculated, that's why the sheet was covering the wreckage

@tinetannies4637

Жыл бұрын

Everything outside the sub that wasn't pressurized, like the entire rear and all the landing strut assembly, wouldn't have been a direct part of the implosion and thus still more or less in one piece, though probably bent and twisted. So it makes a lot of sense that there would be large sub fragments and ruins.

@trevorjameson3213

Жыл бұрын

The only body parts that would survive that would be teeth, bones, and hair. Even with no implosion, a human body at that depth would be crushed down to a fraction of it's normal size. We're talking at least 6000 pounds per square inch of pressure down there. With an implosion, there are several factors that would insure a human body would be completely destroyed. Not the least of which would be the mega-high temperatures from compressing air that fast, which would be around 7000 deg. C. , and 6000 psi of water hitting your body instantly would rip a body to shreds. Then the high pressures of the deep would crush anything left (except for maybe bone fragments and teeth).

@HeatherRose2023

Жыл бұрын

You need to watch so videos on how the sub was made to understand what the pressure hull is.

@susanengel-ix8bl

Жыл бұрын

That was just the front and the back of the thing, the place where they sat was imploded, I'm sure of that.

@randomlyswatching9481

Жыл бұрын

Not really. That's the caps

This is horrible my prayers go out to their families 😢

Genuinely surprised they found any remains at all

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

Are stained shorts considered remains ? .............asking for a friend.

@garden0fstone736

Жыл бұрын

Rolex watch and a bottle of viagra

@mimymar2215

Жыл бұрын

@@garden0fstone736 what for Viagra - no women there

@happycat0411

Жыл бұрын

This Titan submersible wreckage incident also may have been an elaborate cover-up for the billionaires to disappear with their billions of $$$$.

@Buckheimer

Жыл бұрын

"Presumed" is the key word here. There have been no key evidence of them actually finding any human remains. Just the remains of the sub.

This is still so sad, really. A week later, I still feel impacted by the loss of these people as if I knew them. I hope no one ever again endures this type of tragedy. This is frightening. 😢

@kathyblanton9992

Жыл бұрын

Exactly I feel same way!!

@esthervillarreal2386

Жыл бұрын

I think about them every day. I cant shake it.

@AstroBananna

Жыл бұрын

Some days before this tragedy there were 500 whom drowned fleeing their country in hope for a better life that they never will see. Were you impacted by that also?

@prod.yokaiplnt

Жыл бұрын

The Implosion was quick and calculated in milisecond so they had a quick painless death.

@AstroBananna

Жыл бұрын

@@prod.yokaiplnt thats what they say but no one was there to see it, the fact they have body parts means it wasn’t as fast as initially thought.

Such a sad day😥. Feel so sorry for their families. God bless their loved ones💕💕

Stockton Rush couldn't afford rolls of interwoven carbon fiber material, so he skipped the interweaving process of making the material and took the raw strands of carbon fiber and wrapped it around the pressure cylinder like a spool of thread , adding epoxy. Cross- interweaving the fibers is the most important process to achieve strength, similar to cross-interweaving threads to make a piece of fabric. It's in the video of him during the manufacturing process.

@VK-Animates

Жыл бұрын

Ah...I was gonna say, from my experience carbon fiber is super strong

In further news a dispute broke out when several agencies wanted a portion of the remains, but dividing up the full teaspoon full was difficult.

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

You make no sense … they were spotted on seabed and in sub and recovered … so should be more as anything else would have been barely visible. The remains were sent to an US lab.

Very sad. Prayers go out to everyone lost out on sea. I mean everyone

The only thing that makes sense is that it imploded at a higher atmosphere than previously presumed. Either way, great work to each and everyone trying to recover what was believed was all lost. God rest their souls.

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

There were reports they had evidence they made an emergency ascend attempt … not sure how … but they had hull stability warning system …

@juanjo322

Жыл бұрын

@@GanymedeXD wow, they were aware what was going to happen. That's horrible.

@jennylynnem.4218

Жыл бұрын

Has anyone determined approximately how deep they were when the Titan started to malfunction? The longer this goes on, the more questions I have. It’s wild to me that Stockton was so negligent and careless with others lives in his care. While they did sign a death waiver, those waivers are used for all kinds of things, most people would just think it’s just for liability’s sake and not actually believe that they’re really going to die. And most people don’t know the ins and outs of submersibles and what is safe or not. These people trusted him and he recklessly risked their lives knowing that he was warned several times about the viability and sturdiness of his subs. I’m a nurse and I have so many safety measures and checks that I follow every day I’m at work. It’s hard to wrap your brain around the fact that someone could be so careless about the lives of others. Terrifying!

@juanjo322

Жыл бұрын

@@jennylynnem.4218 I don't believe they've disclosed that information as of yet.

Prayers for the familys.

@kevphillips02

Жыл бұрын

That will help 😸

@guitarista67

Жыл бұрын

Don't be rude.

@randomlyswatching9481

Жыл бұрын

@@kevphillips02 have some decency

@Fay_F_2

Жыл бұрын

Yes don’t be rude

Where are the oceanic and transportation board authorities that where supposed to inspect and clear this vessel? I need a registration on my boat to put it in the water but this guy doesnt need an inspection for a sub??? Wtf!?

@tvs9978

Жыл бұрын

My understanding is that the Stockton guy (owner) only ever used the vessel in international waters where no one country (or body) had sole jurisdiction to issue certifications which is why he didn't need any permits to operate the vessel

@garden0fstone736

Жыл бұрын

Tow your boat to the middle of the Atlantic

@tyler5802

Жыл бұрын

Use a bigger boat to take your boat to the middle Atlantic and set sail and you don't need any regulations

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

You do not need any license or reg for experimental items used in international waters …

Note the porthole “glass” is gone. The builder said it recessed about 3/4” and heard cracking sounds around it.

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like the have it … but would be odd if that would have been in Place after implosion … cracking sounds have been everywhere in there customers said.

@WearevotingTRUMP

Жыл бұрын

It looks like the window is what caused the implosion. Probably the weakest link.

@6thstreetproductions

Жыл бұрын

Before imploding, they heard Crackling sounds at the AFT, the back of the sub. The reason the Titanium around it isnt more damaged is likely due to the hull imploding sending everything out the porthole and breaking the glass

Am I the only one who sees duct tape on that large white outer shell around 1:45 ??

@patrickjenkins2788

Жыл бұрын

😂

@AC-yb2ee

Жыл бұрын

Yep! The CEO was cheap for sure😂😂

@d4ever649

Жыл бұрын

Omg yes that’s what it looks like

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

I believe that was added after recovery to hold some of the pieces together to aid in the determination of cause of the failure. Surely, it didn't have duct tape when it went down,...............but the builder was a bit wack-o in his design and selection of materials.

@Flash3-22

Жыл бұрын

Possibly to cover the OceanGate logo

Hold a service on the surface for their loved ones and then leave them in peace. No more trips to the Titanic.

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

Nothing to see there anyway but a rusting hull. RIP comes to mind.

The wording says it all. "Presumed" human remains. That means they can't just recognize it as such.

i love how when actual facts come out it completely debunks all the stories everyone runs with lolol!

the whole world is a stage - william Shakespeare.

Stockton's hubris, off the charts! Many experts expressed serious concerns, many told him the materials aren't as solid as plexi, titanium...his NPD behavior, him @ trailblazer, "no risk, no reward" mentality...⚰️💔 His arrogance caused avoidable deaths😢

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

This makes little sense the way it was written … he used those safe materials you mention … they had completely different concerns … that he used carbon with titan … that the acrylic=plexi he used was not suitable for that depth … that nothing was certified!

Wow! This is so so sad. I pray for comfort for the families. This has to be painful to lose loved ones from what was supposed to be an adventure turned horrific.

@hellrellmell6831

Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t no adventure it was a death trip

@pajamatime5750

Жыл бұрын

@@hellrellmell6831he clearly said “supposed to be”. They didn’t set out to die

@DeanAckroyd-iv5ci

Жыл бұрын

It's so funny lol

@karlpedersen4748

Жыл бұрын

No sympathy whatsoever.. They paid the price for their ignorance to safety concerns and pure stupidity.. Hopefully some laws and legislation will come out of this pointless tragedy.

I can't imagjne the panic they must have felt between the time they realized something was wrong to the implosion

I think everyone has said just about all that can be said, as for me, may the 5, R.I.P.❤❤❤❤❤.

We are so mad and angry at a man who also lost his life due to his passion of exploring the ocean . I believe he didn’t think this would ever happen. Prayers for everyone involved.

@yes_no_body

Жыл бұрын

That was more of a stupidity, knowing you're cheaping out your product by using materials that don't take pressure stress on that category, but still just because you were safe before dosent mean you'll be spared everytime

@letsgobrandon7297

Жыл бұрын

@jaceecurran4539: Maybe go find out the truth and then you’ll know. The guy was a lying POS. Everyone in that field warned him and he was “offended by them warning him”. He lied about being partners with NASA and other agencies. If he’d hired those 50 yr old white guys and listened to them maybe he’d be alive today.

Presumed human remains, disgusting and horrific. Oh my God.

@user-un2tk9sk9b

Жыл бұрын

They said the pilot had dandruff . They found his Head and Shoulders

@marilynschmidt6400

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-un2tk9sk9b Did they find his wallet?

@climeaware4814

Жыл бұрын

yup, 5 thosuand bls per inch of pressure on each inch of the hull. You know, 5k of water pressure can cut flesh and bones in half right? This pressure is so great it will rip the flesh right off off the skeleton.

@user-un2tk9sk9b

Жыл бұрын

@@marilynschmidt6400 If they do the passengers deserve a refund

@ge3412

Жыл бұрын

@@user-un2tk9sk9b narcissist

Well at least those onboard won't complain about a full Titanic experience

It's actually pretty sad that that happened to that 18 year old kid

Such a sad event to have taken 5 lives all due to this owners lack of safety protocol . What in this world, will these family's do without their family members being there with them now? This didn't have to end this way, he was charging a fortune per person to ride down into the oceans depths, so he should have been able to build a better, safer submersible to take high paying people down into such great depths without risking their very lives. It's just unacceptable & so very sad. My heart goes out to their families!❤❤❤❤❤

It might have been better if the submersible was certified before these dives.

@thedbcooperforum

Жыл бұрын

Ya think??????

Rest well. So sorry to their loved ones ❤

Seeing the titanium viewing end hoisted with a strap through what used to be a viewing port ,and no obvious pieces of carbon fiber or fasteners left clinging on the titanium ends. A sad ending not to be repeated.

OMG !! Remains? Really? WOW! ANYONE, Rich or NOT, should have done their own due diligence BEFORE signing that death waiver and getting on that submersible vessel. If they did their due diligence and STILL got on that submersible vessel, and signed that death waiver, then that is SAD. As the saying in Real Estate goes...Buyer Beware. In this case...Customer Beware. May they all rest in peace.

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily … every consent you sign to agree to medical treatments features death, mutilation, complications … if there would be one for a plane covering all eventualities … it would look the same pretty much like for the sub … what could go wrong driving to work covering all eventualities … you would never go … as it would not look any different … the waiver alone does not say a thing! Well … nevertheless … diving 4 km deep down … it is dangerous … and the critics regarding the sub design should have been a red flag.

Human remains could mean anything from a foot,to a part of a scalp. I doubt it’s a body .

@ETS2-yf5jf

Жыл бұрын

Of course it's not a body. They are tiny fragments of bone, hair, teeth at most. 6000psi of pressure does not leave a human intact.

@garden0fstone736

Жыл бұрын

Cockk

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

@@ETS2-yf5jfYou make zero sense … of course larger bits could survive … especially as they were located in sub and on seabed … small fragments a ROV could hardly scoop up!

@ETS2-yf5jf

Жыл бұрын

@@GanymedeXD It seems that in this case some bits were trapped inside the compressed sub, so I admit I was wrong. But that it makes "zero sense" in general I don't agree with.

It’s even more disgusting when you realize they’re still advertising for their deep sea expeditions even as this is still going on

The old adage; "curiosity killed the cat" came to my mind in regards to this unfortunate incident.

OceanGate should sell tours to Titan’s debris field

@meganesergerie5382

Жыл бұрын

😅

Das was passiert ist,ist sehr tragisch und Herzlichen Beileid der Familie.Ich finde man sollte nicht die Totenruhe den Toten stören .

im surprised remains were even found. I was under the impression they would be completely vaporized(?)

What led to the catastrophic ordeal was that damn man driving the submersible with a controller. I pray his soul finds peace.

This story is like something from a movie. Billionaires trapped in a submarine that imploded near the titanic shipwreck

I find it hard to believe that human remains were found ?!

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

Well, they seem to have found some … large enough to be spotted and recovered!

@Moe_love33

Жыл бұрын

They found the bodies????

Its crazy to see how thin that ship lining was. Looks like a christmas ornament

Surely they had no idea this was going to happen.

May have found only fractions, fragments of bones 😔😔😔🙏 May the families of these victims have the opportunity of a decent burial 🙏🙏🙏🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸 Heartfelt condolences to the families is all what comes to my mind...

At those depths, probably crushed bones.

@tomperkins5657

Жыл бұрын

My engineer friends say that would be liquified completely and then literally boiled in a microsecond. Can't imagine what they found.

@primeobjective5469

Жыл бұрын

@@tomperkins5657 -- Dust & ashes printed onto the interior walls is more likely.

@tomperkins5657

Жыл бұрын

@@primeobjective5469 Ahhhh. ok

@RacecarSpelledBackwards71

Жыл бұрын

@@tomperkins5657in theory yes, but those same engineers will also have to admit this type of implosion has never happened with humans involved at that depth in a carbon fiber hull. We’ll be able to thank Stockton for his sacrifice to show us what actually happens to human remains and prove/disprove the theories.

@tomperkins5657

Жыл бұрын

@@RacecarSpelledBackwards71 Well, uh, yes, I guess we will...

I appreciate people's efforts 👌

For anyone wondering what condition the remains are in check out the Byford Dolphin accident.

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

That was about explosive decompression … not an implosion …

@lopwr1212

Жыл бұрын

​@@GanymedeXDthey did experience an implosion

Here comes all the keyboard experts who are going to tell us for sure whether these people died slowly or not.

@thedbcooperforum

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised aliens haven't come into the picture yet...😂😂😂

@Dr.DisrespectFan918

Жыл бұрын

Joe Biden caused this implosion

@Jay-ju9jw

Жыл бұрын

@gha, you mean all the KZread underclass. Lol

@thedbcooperforum

Жыл бұрын

@@MarloAlvarez7 can they tie it to trump 🤣🤣🤣

@laurenurban3942

Жыл бұрын

The entire ocean floor is nothing more than an 👽 alien base station.

Just about when another tour operator was having plans to take tourists down to see the Titanic AND the Titan

There's a kool photo of a crab holding a Rolex watch like a trophy

A SIMILAR TRAGEDY will NEVER occur again if we leave that GRAVESITE ALONE! TRUTH!

@animula6908

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think most of us are even at risk of heading off to visit the sunken wreck of the titanic. It’s safe from me

@GetOwnedInc

Жыл бұрын

The dead on Mt. Everest hasn't stopped them yet.

@pickle_soup160

Жыл бұрын

So we shouldn't go to places where people died? Are cemeteries ok?

@JohnDoe-b3h5m

Жыл бұрын

I hope billionaires keep trying to go down there.

Hope they recover enough human remains to enable a partial dignified burial for all stricken crew

@lizvtaz6

Жыл бұрын

I wonder what "human remains" actually look like in this case. Maybe it's a rib cage and a skull, you know. Might need DNA test to know exactly who's remains these are. I am no expert but it seems like most scientists did not even think that they are going to find remain to begin with.

@MrTony556

Жыл бұрын

@@lizvtaz6yea i thought with how fast it imploded most bones and stuff would have been vaporized

@breprince1205

Жыл бұрын

Not like it’ll be a open casket😂

@breprince1205

Жыл бұрын

@@lizvtaz6probably bones

@stab74

Жыл бұрын

What does this even mean? What quantity of human remains constitue a "partial dignified burial"? 🤦‍♂

Sooooo Sooooo sad!!!!!!

I couldn't believed it was remotely controlled via bluetooth and no back up manual.

So apparently they weren't liquified into a gel and instantly ate by sea life. That's what I watched several professionals say happened most likely.

@Fay_F_2

Жыл бұрын

Yes that’s what I had read as well , they felt nothing and instantly made into a gel

@Fay_F_2

Жыл бұрын

@@Richy_T exactly, I’m shocked any remains at all. Except perhaps bones ? Not sure of even this with such pressure and circumstances. Tragic really sad story

@Fay_F_2

Жыл бұрын

@@Richy_T I totally agree Incompetence and I’d add greed for egotistical reasons . Putting so many lives at risk just cause he “ thought “nothing would happen and convinced even himself . What can I say really . Too sad, may the rest in peace

@reggieshark

Жыл бұрын

What Giant 🦑 Squid that's the only big fish that can swim that low Whales Can 🐳 but they don't eat Humans

Recovery Heroes. Strong souls.💜🙏

@Thompsonsmith00

Жыл бұрын

Hello dear How are you doing today?

@davidbellamy1403

Жыл бұрын

Heroes? Going down over 4,000 m in a vessel certified for 3,000? OK, maybe you meant "stupidly heroic".

@Idreallyrathernotthanks

Жыл бұрын

​@@davidbellamy1403I think she's talking about the recovery team genius.

@verofunds

Жыл бұрын

What heroes you are talking about ? They were tourists. Heroes are not paying 250k to see the Titanic ‼️

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

@@davidbellamy1403 Was it actually "certified" for 3,000 m ?

Glad they found the bodies.

R.I.P.

I feel bad for the people who have to pull the parts out and for those who have to analyze the remains 😢

@okaminess

Жыл бұрын

That’s their job. They get to learn new things while on the job. But I feel for the families.

@candydandy2694

Жыл бұрын

Don't feel bad, they're not recognisable body parts, we're talking goo and mush.

@jerardnorgren3411

Жыл бұрын

@@candydandy2694 Wouldn't it be cool if the skulls were intact? You could make bookend candle holders. Have a custom Stockton candle candle! When it illuminates, it has a recording that says.....? Bon Voyage

@HunterDriguez

Жыл бұрын

@@jerardnorgren3411metal

@GampyBamblor

Жыл бұрын

Its literally meat and bone like every animal is made of

So much for the hundreds of experts saying it was so fast! They were disintegrated by heat upon implosion before being dissolved.... millisecond they said. I think it was fast. But this points to a slower breach than anticipated

@tonymeehan7859

Жыл бұрын

if they had any sensors going off or any kind of cracking, it wouldn't have taken anytime at all to implode, not under the pressure they were at

@johancitygames

Жыл бұрын

slower breach is impossible at that depths, it still happens in less than a second, however carbon fiber breaks like glass, so maybe that is the reason why there are supposedly human remains, more likely bone pieces, we need to wait for the analysis.

@guitarista67

Жыл бұрын

Nope. They wouldn't have ever known what happened. It's a Sopranos ending.

@dinkybo

Жыл бұрын

Im over it but I need to now the analysis and what happens next.

@HeatherRose2023

Жыл бұрын

You have no idea what you are talking about. Presumed human remains clearly means they can’t tell what it is. It’s goo.

what a waste of resources

“They” knew it was lost on Sunday yet strung the serfs along till Thursday. Question everything.

@Flash3-22

Жыл бұрын

Most likely waiting for confirmation of debris by the French ROV,.

In my mind, when I heard about how an implosion works, I pictured that the submarine would have been absolutely obliterated.. like into millions of tiny pieces or something so when they pulled those huge pieces out of the water that kinda confused me. Like if the implosion has enough power to just instantly eviscerate everything then how were the pieces so big… and if those pieces were so big, is it possible the human remains were more in tact? And if they’re more in tact does that mean they may not have died as instantly as thought?? I hope that makes sense I just really wanna know.

@wildflower7321

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY my thoughts.

@jeremyday1517

Жыл бұрын

For my understanding the sub was crushed like a soda can in a fist and since it was partially carbon fiber the crush was probably near instant once a crack or hole was formed from the pressure of the ocean. To be honest this accident reminds of a similar accident that happened in the Netherlands on a oil rigg diving bell poor souls were crushed near instantly I've seen some of the photos of the aftermath if so I can assume the bodies most likely look just as mangled or if not worse

@chelseamunroe

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremyday1517 where did you see that!? So those bodies were able to be recovered and put to rest by the family? Just wondering if that’s possible here.. idk why I get the feeling they may not have died as instantaneously as thought. Like some people much smarter than me on other channels are saying that the recovered pieces don’t exactly coincide with a typical implosion. But idk

@LonerSoulnae

Жыл бұрын

Yep thought the same

@rastafari.d.culture9734

Жыл бұрын

Its explosion that disintergrates things to pieces vs implosion that compresses objects into one or few tiny pieces

When I saw the earleir recovery footage showing debris covered in white cloth, I knew some stains or remains were found

@avi8r66

Жыл бұрын

Blood stains, on something pulled up through 2.5 miles of ocean..... No. The coverings were there to protect the parts from news media cameras mainly, and the company logos were also covered up intentionally with white cloth / tarp and blue tape. It was less about 'blood stains' and more about hiding from cameras. A small chance some of the coverings were to protect evidence from damage or loss as well.

@mancavemotorsports

Жыл бұрын

@avi8r66 thank you for clarification and pulling the word blood from my statement multiple times🤣🤣

Human remains no matter how small can bring closure to the families

@KaiserBlade

Жыл бұрын

You know this how?

This was really a game changer for me, for I was going to build a spaceship completely out of aluminum foil, clay, and tissue papers, charging clients $500,000. To have it visit and land on the moon or mars, I thought I was going to be innovative, but this clip opened my mind.

It's not a tragedy when you cut corners on purpose and turn your back to reason and concerns.

@Vªren1667

Жыл бұрын

It is for the passengers who trusted the maker and the craft.

@schrodingersmechanic7622

Жыл бұрын

​@@Vªren1667buyer beware

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

@@Vªren1667 Perhaps a tragedy to be gullible enough to pay for your own demise.

@Vªren1667

Жыл бұрын

@@schrodingersmechanic7622 that goes for everything these days

@itsjustnopinionok

Жыл бұрын

@@Vªren1667 I didn't go into detail. But I directed my comment to the CEO. I feel only the son as the most innocent.

The logic tech controller and the camper world store 5$ plastic grab handle survived and retrieved as well .

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

Those items would fetch a fortune on ebay.

So sad 🙏

I could just imagine that the remains would be from Mr.Rush holding the controller for when he was operation the Titan submarine

@neilmcentee1905

Жыл бұрын

Huh... in English please

got the habit of reading comments than listening much of the news .cuz there some very knowledge oriented people on the platform you can learn alot from .thanks

The only logical explination is that something went wrong near surface levels. The water starts leaking inside the sub, then the titanium part got separated, this is the only way that can reserve the remains.

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

Makes zero sense … there is evidence it imploded … and this does not mean no remains. As it was close to Titanic it must have been not too high above … near the surface no remains had been found on the seabed and in sub.

If the controller looks like that i would have built that ship with flex tape 💀

so the implosion wasn’t as hot as the surface of the sun vaporising all the bodies immediately? i knew that sounded dramatic

@dewantoroo

Жыл бұрын

Do not trust TikTok video as your source my guy

I did not see one photo or video of those people boarding that thing. You would think there would be photos and/or video of that moment but nothing.

@tony--james

Жыл бұрын

My Cousin , on Friday June 16th, actually saw them all board the Polar Prince, in St Johns NFLD,, it was towing the Titan sub, on a barge, or something, there's probably many in house video/pics taken, just that we haven't seen them

@bintmazuna3939

Жыл бұрын

I am just curious why the mainstream media did not show any videos or photos.

@truthhurts3709

Жыл бұрын

There was a video of them getting ready to enter the submersible

@wesc08

Жыл бұрын

Well, most of them prob. went down with the phones on the sub. As for the ones that didn't follow down with the sub. have prob. been told to not share photos or video at this stage.

@TheRoyalBavarian

Жыл бұрын

Me neither.

Im surprised at the size of some of the debris coming up i would of thought it would all be in lots of small bits!

In regards to the white exterior shell piece of debris…Why does it look like they have “covered and or taped over” the side that has the ocean gate lettering and logo???

It's very sad.

The Canadian Coast Guard and every agency involved in this mission are all rock stars. I am certain much has been learned in this international effort to save lives of those who go down to the sea from every nation.

It'll be a miracle to find human remains at that depth...maybe it meant to be that way

@mattx9260

Жыл бұрын

just look for the swarm of octipus. usually means they are feasting on a biological.

@yas7267

Жыл бұрын

Literally Says they found human remains

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

They have spotted human remains on seabed and in sub and recovered them … large enough to be spotted and recovered …

@Buckheimer

Жыл бұрын

​@@yas7267presumed is not literally tho...

Very sad

Did anyone hear about the 500 or so people who drowned in a capsizing accident near Greece around the same time as tis accident? I wonder why that isn't given any airtime....

Their deaths are tragic but no one forced them into that untested sub - which they were aware of. I say their remains belong on the bottom near the Titanic. It was good enough for over a thousand other humans. Is the Titanic wreck site sacred now? Their remains belong to her - they took their chances and lost.

@suew4609

Жыл бұрын

After 100+ years there is nothing left of those that perish in the Titanic disaster. You can be respectful and go to a graveyard, people do it everyday.

@robinjohnston222

Жыл бұрын

Callous statement. why?

@reggieshark

Жыл бұрын

The son didn't want to go but his dad wanted him to go with him for Father's day

@GanymedeXD

Жыл бұрын

It was no untested sub … nonsense … they made tests software based and practical diving tests with the sub before going into service. They made tests after and before every dive and had integrity sensors for the hull warning in case of any problems. Criticism was the construction … parts used … no certifications … and ongoing flaws during previous dives. The sub was not found where the Titanic is … it was found in about half a mile distance.

@eaglesnest1940

Жыл бұрын

​@@reggiesharkThe Father should not put his son's life at Risk very selfish to do this I feel sorry for the young boy.

Not even close to an engineer, but the ones I know say they would be liquified and boiled in a microsecond. No bones, etc. Nothing.

@trevorjameson3213

Жыл бұрын

Yes, most likely that's what happened. Temperatures from the instant compression of the air in the sub would reach 7000 deg Celsius for a couple of thousandths of a second. They said that's the same as the surface of the sun. So yeah, they were probably quick-fried first, then shredded by parts of the sub imploding on them at 1500mph, or twice the speed of sound, and then subjected to 6000 psi of deep ocean water pressure. I'd say nothing would be left, except maybe bone fragments or teeth.

@tomperkins5657

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorjameson3213 Ugh.

Presumed? I think we all deserve more clear answers in this time of grief

@WeisseDrache

Жыл бұрын

well, when the pieces are comparable to soup - assuming it all hadn't burned/vaporized (and even scattered) away in the process - I don't know how specific you can go. Probably bone fragments..? Not sure how much there is left to specify - probably needs lab results confirming it is what they think it is or it isn't. Plus, odds of getting REAL information aren't too high.

Looks like the plexiglass window is gone

Pics or it didn't happen

@ajtaylor7181

Жыл бұрын

gross i dont wanna see that, we all know what human remains look like anyways, in this case there would be none.

porthole seems to be missing.. I wonder if that was the failing part

@dr.buzzvonjellar8862

Жыл бұрын

I’m going to predict, based on nothing defensible, that when the carbon fiber hull collapsed inward, the viewer window was shot forward like a bullet. Not that it failed and blow inward, even though it was only rated for 1300 meters

@avi8r66

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too. I suspect it's (the window and the frame it's mounted into) bonded in with some kind of adhesive given how that hole looked, no bolt holes or broken studs. As such, any non uniform flex in that dome, or any radical pressure shock from within, would knock it loose. Purely a hypothesis though.

@wyotriumphrider

Жыл бұрын

it was only rated to 1300m. Rush refused to pay for a viewport certified to 4000m. Hubris just gets one killed, at that depth.

@avi8r66

Жыл бұрын

@@Richy_T Right, that part I get. The titanium dome has the bevel in it. But the lip shows no sign of bolt holes or broken studs. The lip of that opening looks completely smooth in the recovery footage. The other pics of the sub before it died shows 18 bolts holding the acrylic or whatever viewport in behind a metal ring. So I am thinking that the dome has a coned opening machined into it. But this might just a receiver for the window assembly. The forces on that window would be inward, not outward, so stresses on it would be keeping it firmly in place. Some sealant/adhesive would probably be enough. Seems hinky, just trying to make sense of the imagery coming out.

@avi8r66

Жыл бұрын

@@Richy_T Right, so if it was just held in, lets say chemically, because the interior pics show no hint of an internal ring securing it, then when the implosion happened, which in all likelihood was the ring-tube interface, the shockwave just blasted that window out.

Part of me feels bad for these idiots. The other parts thinks its a good thing. In the world of high technology people start to think anything is possible without due diligence.

Pure silliness. Jerry built canister failed. No investigation or analysis needed.

Would you guys forgive stockton if you see him in the afterlife face to face?

Probably bone fragments. Soft flesh wouldve been destroyed in the implosion

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

Soft flesh in minute particles would have drifted away in the current like a fog or cloud.

"Presumed human remains." What do they mean? Do they think a goat stowed away on board or something? I'd think any flesh not yet eaten by ocean animals would be human.

Imagine if it's a body from the actual titanic

The Sub was safe !! They used flex seal to make it water proof 😅😅😅

@norman7179

Жыл бұрын

But the bubble gum becomes hard and brittle at near freezing temperatures.