It’s funny watching this 2 years on. ODog is right on every single one of these

@angrydalailama6089

2 жыл бұрын

He really is. Jonas Siegel is such a fanboy tool. Can't stand him.

@isaacyoung2709

2 жыл бұрын

I’d take marner over petterson, maybeeeee over pasta too because of this season but that’s really close.

@FoodFollow

19 күн бұрын

4 years forward O-Dog is still bang on. Siegal doesn't know anything. Can O-Dog find his way to Leafs management under professional scouting?

I finally figured it out. If you’re a former player, media is the best job to get into rather than management. Because if you’re wrong, you can still have a media job. If you’re wrong in management, you’re Peter Chiarelli.

@guitarcovers5437

5 жыл бұрын

Ray Finkle Chiarelli has won a cup, and got the tire fire oilers to there only playoffs in 13 years! You just hop on the social media bandwagon and bash a guy because everyone else is 😂

@Jobother

5 жыл бұрын

Chiarelli is being looked at for a job in Vancouver, so...

@karnak333

5 жыл бұрын

Media is about discussion and not about decisions. There's no accountability other than generating ratings.

@are3287

4 жыл бұрын

@@guitarcovers5437 He signed some really shit contracts though, and traded Hall for Larsson...

@nathanabebe1558

4 жыл бұрын

@@are3287 Don't forget about the Seguin trade

Throw these guys out and just give this kind of spotlight to The Hockey Guy and the world would be better off

@Seraph89_

5 жыл бұрын

They would make him a spew a lot of the same garbage. Honestly I don’t believe he’d take it unless he was fully in control

@Rydal1

5 жыл бұрын

who is the hockey guy

@ry4nx

5 жыл бұрын

@@Rydal1 an unbiased perspective that doesn't constantly regurgitate useless information like these morons

@Rileylmao_

5 жыл бұрын

Rydal1 the goat

@scottcollins2280

5 жыл бұрын

stay off the crack Lokacrushh. 2 fomer nhlers have more knowledge than a hockey fan.

Id pick loui

O-dog is right..... centers and goal scorers get paid a premium and mitch marner is none of those.

@JohnSmith-jb2jf

5 жыл бұрын

It's not about who gets paid what. The question should have been "Who gives you a better chance to win?"

man oneill makes this hard to watch lmao. why does this guy have a job, any time he's asked to explain anything he gets mad.

@ontariomotorsport7038

5 жыл бұрын

He's a joke

@jasonmohr6571

5 жыл бұрын

I'm actually going to defend Jeff and say this. Have these other two clown fan boys ever played? I'm not talking NHL. Any league in general. Jeff knows what it takes to be at that level. Debating on who to take disregarding salary cap. Inconsequential bs talk.

@jasonmohr6571

5 жыл бұрын

@@NeuroUMW thanks for pointing out Hayes and his time in OHL. He just comes across as a donkey.

@ry4nx

4 жыл бұрын

he was a shit player and skater and somehow feels like he has all the answers. guy on he left is way more fuckin annoying however

@Michael-pg7rv

4 жыл бұрын

Like there are rookie analysts who have gone to school for broadcasting and sports schools who are extremely knowledgeable and intelligent and have something great to offer, and we are stuck listening to this toolbag who is Jeff O'neil.

Ya so this aged well. At least for O’Dog. It’s actually Point that has another gear. It’s actually Point that is a “game breaker”. It’s Point!!!!

@ahmedm8981

2 жыл бұрын

Rn it doesn't seem that way for O'Dog, lets see how it looks another 2 years down the line lol

@Gxhle

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahmedm8981 point just eliminated matthews and marner in the playoffs while kuch was a ghost for 6 games . Point is way better

@ChrisBrown-pz2gu

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gxhle Marner played his ass off...

O Dawg would probably take himself over Marner

@darielthaddeus9739

3 жыл бұрын

A tip: watch movies at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching lots of of movies recently.

@dangelovalentin8958

3 жыл бұрын

@Dariel Thaddeus yup, I have been watching on Flixzone} for since november myself =)

@taylorferreira2041

3 жыл бұрын

Forreal

@blines43

2 жыл бұрын

I would take o dog over Marner

@ChrisBrown-pz2gu

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, O'Dog is very honest about himself as a player. He admits that he was lazy defensively, and didn't really like practicing.

I can't wait until Marner signs so we can be done with it lol

@richardferguson8023

5 жыл бұрын

We won't be done with it because then it will be a month of breaking down every little bit of contract minutiae

@PoolNoodleGundam

5 жыл бұрын

Watch him sign in Nashville and the collective toronto media's subsequent loss of shit

@mydogcujo

5 жыл бұрын

Ask Nylander if it was done when he signed. He is still getting ripped. Mitch Marner has pissed off Leafs Nation and it will not be going away anytime soon.

@MikeVT

5 жыл бұрын

mydogcujo truuuuuuue

@mydogcujo

5 жыл бұрын

@@MikeVT ... I really wished that I was wrong but... lol

The 3rd guy is just a straight up homer 🤣🤣

@alessandroscuderi7300

4 жыл бұрын

"Nylander and Draisatl had the same stats when Draisatl signed!" .... Draisatl was literally coming off a 77 pt season and 16 pts in 13 playoff games. Nylanders career high to this day is 61 pts. No shit Draisatl's 9 pts in 37 gms as a teenager is going to bring down his final stats given he had just 2 full seasons at the time. Insane homer. Also acting like its absurd to pick Pastrnak who had 38 goals and 81 pts in 66 games this past year. But hes on that line! Yeah and Marner plays with fucking Tavares.

@Yustin1441

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, he picked Marner over Pastrnak based solely on a hypothetical situation, and totally made his line with Tavares sound like a scrub line by saying what he said, which we all know they're not. Not to mention, there were times last season where Bergeron wasn't there, or Pasta went down to the second line with Krejci and didn't lose a step. The dude is clearly a Marner fan, and just picks Marner over everyone else.

@simonreilly213

2 жыл бұрын

Every single player they named is better than Marner. Guys a complete moron.

@angrydalailama6089

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that's Jonas Siegel. He's a fanboy weiner.

The O-Dog knows what he’s talking about, it’s disgusting how Marner wants $11M+.

@domenicsimsiris2921

5 жыл бұрын

Matthews was slightly overpaid but he is the face of the franchise. Batman and Robin shouldn’t get paid the same.

@michaelfusmusic9447

5 жыл бұрын

D 17 But if the going rate sees Skinner getting 9 million, why shouldn’t Marner get more than him?

@domenicsimsiris2921

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Fu I cant tell if you’re joking, if you’re not, if somebody wants to pay Skinner 9M it doesn’t mean I should overpay my guy by 2-3M. Marner should be 9.5M MAX! Nowhere even close to Matthews, McDavid, or anybody else making more than ten. Guess what it’s alright to say “YOU ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THEM!”

@michaelfusmusic9447

5 жыл бұрын

D 17 Well, you are right, I think Marner’s market value is around the 8.5-9.5 million dollar range realistically, but the thing is, lots of players this summer are demanding huge salaries. For example, Boeser wants 10 million per year at 8 years and Laine wants 15 million per year at 8 years. Players who aren’t as good as Mitch are demanding such high amounts, therefore we should not be surprised Marner wants the absolute maximum as well.

Okay I'm lying, go ahead Jonas!

Marner or Barkov? Barkov, let's move on. 😂 Not even a discussion! It's great to see Sasha getting the recognition he deserves. Top 5 Centers in the league, no question.

@lamarmartin847

4 жыл бұрын

FaintAcrobat id even take barkov over Matthews by a slight hair

@ryanb6679

4 жыл бұрын

FaintAcrobat McDavid, Crosby,Mackinnon, Bergeron and Malkin is Barkov better then any of those players?

@lamarmartin847

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan B barkov over Malkin by a landslide!!!

@DrZaius

4 жыл бұрын

Barkov shows up every night, can't say the same about Malkin. Bergeron was a ghost in the finals.

@johnathanschroeder4314

3 жыл бұрын

Lamar Martin barkov over malkin?? this season malkin had 12 more points than barkov in 11 less games

Point over Marner. Kuch over Marner. Marner over Laine. Pasternak over Marner. Draisaitl over Marner too. Drai keeps getting better 50g 55a and all 50g was with a goalie in the net

@redddawggg

5 жыл бұрын

Jesse Martin good comment. I got a question. Rank those players in order you’d draft them. This is how I’d rank them. First- Draisital Second- Point Third- Laine Fourth- Cooch Fifth- Pasty

@billsouza4457

5 жыл бұрын

@@redddawggg Kutch 4th? He is easily #1.

@redddawggg

5 жыл бұрын

Bill Souza now he is. But he has finished six seasons in nhl to others only three. Tell me. Could you take Kuch back to his third season and his 60 points n still believe he is head n shoulders above the rest?

@lucasbaldwin7817

5 жыл бұрын

Jesse Martin Draisaitl is older isn’t he so obviously if he’s older he has developed more. Also, Draisaitl plays on a line with the best player in the league so... I agree with Barkov over Marner but I wouldn’t say Pasta, Point, or Aho over Marner

@jessemartin3677

5 жыл бұрын

@@lucasbaldwin7817 most talent players play with a top guy. Just go look around NHL. It's been that forever. Drai is 23 years old

jeff o'neill was so triggered. Just chill out man

@mikeflithy6401

4 жыл бұрын

too much nose candy

@andrewsmythe1007

4 жыл бұрын

I personally find it hilarious. He gets asked one simple question and "You're right I'm lying". Its soooo funny. Just 0-100 in 1 second.

@daphnebutler5239

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsmythe1007 mapleleaf,Newsweek

@taylorferreira2041

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@simonreilly213

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair the other guy answering those questions is a moron.

I can't believe you didn't ask Marner or Rantanen. Theyre the perfect comparison imo

@bc1173

5 жыл бұрын

yeah 6'5" goal scorer vs. 5'9'' playmaker, really perfect comparison.

@luukas2660

5 жыл бұрын

@@bc1173 The perfect comparison as in both play right wing and are pretty much equal in what they bring to the team.

@bc1173

5 жыл бұрын

@@luukas2660 they bring completely different things, and are completely different players. that's like compariong alex ovechkin to marchand because they're both LW

@luukas2660

5 жыл бұрын

@@bc1173 Again, my point is its hard pick to make. Wouldn't necessarily call Rantanen a goal scorer though, he did have 56 assists this past season.

@lucasbaldwin7817

5 жыл бұрын

Luukas Saarnio playing with the Mac Daddy

How biased can that guy on the right be? Talk about living in his little Maple leaf bubble....

I don’t think Neil looked at Siegel once..even when he was talking to him lol. These guys must hate each other.

@-offset2007

4 жыл бұрын

that was irritating to watch lool

@arcticmonkey3

3 жыл бұрын

Who’s Neil?

I'd take Aho for 9.5 over Marner for 11

@FaintAcrobat

5 жыл бұрын

What about 8.5 for Aho? Seriously though, I would take Aho for 11 over Marner for 9.5. Aho is twice the player he is. He pretty much carried Carolina to the conference final on his own. FFS look at who he was playing with! Nino who just isn't a first line forward in a play-off team and Williams who is fucking old as shit and it shows. Those two doubled their points just by playing with Aho. Aho goes against the opposition's top line day after day and pretty much outplays them every time. Aho's hockey IQ is off the charts.

the dude in the middle has got an attitude. like chill

I couldn't imagine being from a city with so much hockey passion and legitimate morons as their beat analysts. No wonder Toronto fans are so on edge all the time

@gordonbgraham

5 жыл бұрын

There's nothing that O'neil said that is wrong here

jeff O'neils time of the month

They missed the most obvious... Marner or Matthews.

I love how now one talks about Mikko Rantanen in any of this, Colorado's top line was one of the best in the league and he was a big part of that.

I rather have Pettersson more than Mariner.

@bretthughes8679

4 жыл бұрын

Odog knows Petey is the shit. The other dude on the right is a tool.

Dude on the right couldn't even wear a Polo?

Jonas has a man crush on Marner

One that they didn't do... Mitch Marner vs Mikko Rantanen

@grizzlyguy9416

5 жыл бұрын

That's actually a tough one, unlike most of the comparisons in this video

@davidmccalla3609

5 жыл бұрын

Hard one but I'm taking Marner

@cal8362

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely taking Rantanen

@poopcrust3400

5 жыл бұрын

That’s easy, rantanen been over a ppg past two seasons

@bdenver601

5 жыл бұрын

Feel like this one is a case of what player type you need more, Marner brings more skill to the table and Rantanen brings more I guess you could say “power forward-ness” if that makes sense

Even strength points Marner 73 Point 57 Pastrnak 48 Even strength goals Marner 23 Point 21 Pastrnak 21 That says ALOT to me. And why did they compare Marner to all these centres? I think people will always take the centre.

@SR-mz8nn

4 жыл бұрын

Where am I? Shitsfucked Pastrnak had an injury that took him out for awhile and he still posted good numbers. Plus he’s an easy to work with guy who isn’t concerned about money. I don’t follow Marner too closely but I don’t think he was out for injuries or anything so his number is fair for his ice time? I am only speaking on what I know.

@user-rm6oo9ln9o

19 күн бұрын

How did this age

Is the dude in the middle the limo driver from Blank Check?

We want Bardown quizzes

Keep up the good work O- Dog

Who put this cast of characters together? Odd personalities, no chemistry and just plain awkward to watch! The guy on the right seems slow.

Love O-dog's passion and his assessment's, everybody is always talking about how Marner helped Tavares have a career year when it was only by 2 points and 10 goals more. Who helped who more? They both helped each other

I love O-Dog "yeah i'm Lying" Dude gets so angry so fast.

@TheChellCountryV2

4 жыл бұрын

Hes a cokehead

Dude on the right can’t make up his mind to save his life. Making a case for the player he isn’t even picking lol

Andy Richter gets abrasive when asked hockey questions.

I'd take B. Point over any other player in the game. He's insanely talented and willing to work with his team to win. Team guy and great player.

@isaacyoung2709

2 жыл бұрын

This aged poorly…

@FloridaHockeyFan

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaacyoung2709 How did this age poorly? He's an elite talent and 2x Stanley Cup Champion. He's having a good year. Plus his cap hit is much better than most.

"O Dog makes a complete ass of himself" - TSN

@taylorferreira2041

3 жыл бұрын

Legit tv personality. Load of crap!

Holy O-Dog grumpy ... But spot on with assessments. The biggest problem with this crop of RFA's is they won't even listen to bridge deals anymore. They wanna hit the jackpot on their first deals after their ELC's. This of course, is the fault of the Leafs & Matthews deal.

@babayaga5392

5 жыл бұрын

It's not the fault of the Oilers with Draisaitl and then McDavid?

@ontariomotorsport7038

5 жыл бұрын

@@babayaga5392 and plenty other players even before MacDavid.

What do you guys think is a fair contract for both mitch and TOR?

@thehockeykid3794

5 жыл бұрын

A case of beer each game and whatever money is in Babcock's couch

@cjmllvv

5 жыл бұрын

9 5 x 8

@reasonablerage4370

5 жыл бұрын

@@cjmllvv 8 mil, 8 year imo

@PhrescaGaming

5 жыл бұрын

@@reasonablerage4370 hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha

I get that centermen probably plays the most vital role in the offence of a team but give me a break. How often do you see a winger with that much playmaking ability instead of just being a sniper being fed pucks? Yes there are a lot of other wingers that put up similar numbers, if not more, and finish plays more but that will happen for marner as we see him grow.

This went on with Nylander. Marners a Leaf if an offer sheet hasn’t been tendered by now. They’re fighting over specifics in contract most likely:)

This doesn't do anything for anyone. They're just having fun with themselves.

@gordonbgraham

5 жыл бұрын

It's a 3 hour radio show. They're killing time

@danh4435

5 жыл бұрын

Gordon Graham stfu

Clicked only to find out who "O-Dog" was.

People who hate the Leafs follow this because we love Marner, the player and the person. Not because we’re attracted to a “Leafs issue”.

Why not debate him over someone his own play style which is Johnny hockey?

haha marner over Brayden Point.... Point is top 3 for two way forwards in the NHL. wtf is that guy smoking.

@doug2616

4 жыл бұрын

White owls

I picked all the names mentioned over Marner.

This is very funny to watch 1 year later and the only player Marner is better than is Laine

Why did the guy on the right scoff at Pastrnak? He scored 81 points in 66 games last year. For anyone counting that's a 122 point pace over 82 games. "How many would Marner score on that line? 110?" lol do the math bud.

@lucasbaldwin7817

5 жыл бұрын

I think he’s saying if they played the same amount of games he would score 110 and pasta 81. Clearly you are a Boston fan but they are very close skill wise and you could say either is better

@hhhhippo

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasbaldwin7817 Lol what? He's saying Marner would score 110 in a full season, not 66 fucking games. But this dude's wrong anyways, 81 in 66 = 1.23 pts/game which equals 101 pts/season, so this comment is retarded anyways.

@llamapenNHL

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasbaldwin7817 I'm a Blues fan. I'm also a David Pastrnak fan. He doesn't get the respect he deserves. I totally agree with you that they are very close skill wise and you could say either is better. That's why I take issue with one guy saying "I'll take Pastrnak over Marner" and the other guy being totally dumbstruck that someone would say that.

pathetic Toronto media. He was a super-hero 2 months ago. the greatest person in the history of history. The greatest player, and most wonderful human being in the world. Now he is becoming a villain.

@donovanjd3

5 жыл бұрын

@Ray W Matthews wasn't greedy. Pajamaboy wasn't greedy. but Marner is? oh...Leaf fans.

NHL needs more Canadian teams. 7 ain't enough.

also lmao at the dude taking Marner over Pastrnak. He mentioned how many points the Bergeron-March line would have if Marner was their third. How about this, how many more points would Tavares and Marleu have with Pastrnak? More for sure

@cjmllvv

5 жыл бұрын

Pastrnak is probably better cause he scores more goals but marner would get more points

@michaelfusmusic9447

5 жыл бұрын

thekillers1stfan Pastrnak is a better goal scorer and he is more physical, but Marner is more dynamic. Marner has better skating, agility, vision, puck handling and creativity than the Bruins forward.

I like Marner I’ll say 7.5/8 he’s a good player but imo not in the same category like Matthews Mcdavid Kane...

Marner or Rantanen ?

@MrZulusniper

4 жыл бұрын

Rantanen , better defensively and throws a hit at least once a game

I only clicked on this bc I knew the comments would be classic.

If "ODog" was driving the bus Mitch would be eating the oil pan..... Just saying... "it's obvious".....but he's right....

Jeff o’neil was so fucking pissed 😂😂😂

the one thing i find funny is to look back at McDavid and Eichel's draft class, where some ppl had Eichel going first at some point lol

@joshb517

5 жыл бұрын

Uh I don’t think that ever happend.... mcdavid was a lock at 1 two years before his draft

@marcroy5089

5 жыл бұрын

@@joshb517 nope, there were still talks months before the draft, the impression we get now is that he was the shit that long ago because we have access to the interviews and such

lol O-Dog is spicy today

As an Oilers fan Leon is a level above Marner for $2.5 million less... Marner is basically Nuge.

Seth MacFarlane louie Anderson and seth green star in tsn overdrive the movie this summer

Genius concept, TSN. A feel dumber for watching this.

Do the same excersice about Mathews

These guys are hilarious. “Who would you rather have? A star center or a star forward?” And I love the fact that they immediately shut down the conversation that the market has changed.

@gordonbgraham

5 жыл бұрын

One of the parameters was "salary is not a criterion"

@Mdoherty1687

5 жыл бұрын

Gordon Graham right, except they brought up the question about what the pay gap would be and didn’t want to hear the answer.

@gordonbgraham

5 жыл бұрын

Matthew Doherty pay was another criterion not to be considered. It was supposed to be a player vs player comparison straight up.

I’m a Tampa fan and point is the best player

mikko is the perfect comparable to marner but these fools have never watched an avs game till the kadri trade

Man. Toronto pundits are dellusional. Pastrnak, point, Kucherov, Draisatl over Marner all day. Why is there a debate? Want hockey to grow? Get people less Toronto biased.

@redddawggg

5 жыл бұрын

Good comment. I got a question. Rank those players in order you’d draft them. First- Draisital Second- Point Third- Cooch Fourth- Pasty

@IgnacioNachooooooooo

4 жыл бұрын

It's not a debate it's just fun to play these hypothetical situations. People love shitting on these guys for no reason. They picked most of those guys over Marner. How does that make them delusional?

@maxx6282

4 жыл бұрын

Read comment above mine and watch the vid. Head ass

Petterson is much better generational talent than Marner. One's on a stacked offensive Toronto team and the other is rookie on a rebuilding Vancouver team. They're both sensational, but I think Petterson has the potential to carry a franchise while Marner doesn't.

@everydaycarry1328

5 жыл бұрын

Ok , but don't cry when Pettersson signs a 10 year $120 Million deal .....after all he's better than Marner and we all know how much he's going to get.

@cal8362

5 жыл бұрын

@@everydaycarry1328 cant sign a 10 year deal

@PatrickStar-et4xz

5 жыл бұрын

​@@everydaycarry1328 But E.Pettersson is going to be worth it, he's capable of putting up 50 goals and 100+ points in his prime if he gets no injuries. And Marner is certainly a special winger sort of like Patrick Kane. He is going to be getting lots of money but not every team gets these type of players on wing, Toronto should be happy even if they overpay alittle. Personally I have Marner as the best player on the leafs in terms of pure talent

how does salary not come into play in this conversation?

@cjmllvv

5 жыл бұрын

Cause that's the game

@G0inInDrY

5 жыл бұрын

if salary was in the competition, Pasta would be taken over everyone in the league

@kode-man23

5 жыл бұрын

That's the point that they are trying to make, look only at skill and potential over the next eight years to figure out what Marner SHOULD make based on those other comparables.

@iamNotHereB

5 жыл бұрын

@@G0inInDrY I'm not saying he isn't great, but I'd like to see his performance with a different line Getzlaf and Perry Laine and Schiefle Domi and whoever his centre is He'd still be worth more than his contract, but not as much

@everydaycarry1328

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Martlin um not in reality.....the game IS salary!

O'Neill is definitely right about Point. A 2 way Selke level center who scored 41 goals and 92 points? All day over Marner who is a winger who is poor defensively. Also Siegel saying Leon and Nylander had the same stats? Leon was coming off a 77 pt season and 16 pts in 13 playoff games. Nylander had a career high of 61 pts then. Such a dumb point. Obviously Draisatl's 9 pts in 37 games as a teenager is gonna bring down his career PPG when hes merely played 2 full seasons.

I love how O- Dog get so mad. He's legit my favorite guy

The only problem with Marner is he decided to push for massive earnings. 11m is a MASSIVE chunk of the salary cap.

If Marners SMART he'll beat it out of LOSERVILLE 1967

Marner does not have another gear

Aho or Marner?

How O-dog sat through that..... Marner 9.516 for 6 max.

4:30 aged perfectly

Dude on right is in love with marner

tavares stands there and gets tap ins from marner. it's marner's line and he's been the best player on the team for 2 years. the guy deserves 11M but we live in a bullshit world where "wingers" aren't allowed more than 9M apparently. how many other teams are getting rid of their best player this summer? the raptors? at least it's not really a choice for them.

"O-DOG" HAS NO CREDIBILITY. This guy said he would choose his boy MATTHEWS OVER MCDAVID BEFORE LOLLL

This mentality is why these guys are on TV or Radio and not in a management position in the big leagues

Point>>>>>>>>Marner

Wow, snarking guys.

Marner's contract demands totally suck

Could they have picked three guys with any less chemistry to do this?

O'niel is so pissed off at the these 2 hacks.

O-dog is thinking about the playoffs, not Jersey sales. I hope MM. Gets it together.

O Dog hates that other guy so much LOL

did he just say the pastrnak line is the best line in the league?

Pettersson all day

O-Dog's had it!

Jesus Christ...... watching this makes me think that Marner is underrated....... wow

@angusbeef9718

5 жыл бұрын

Probably never realized how good he was myself

would he take marner over petterson now?`don´t think so :D

Not that I disagree with all of these comparisons but it sure seems that marner is constantly under appreciated. He was the best player on the leafs last season, hes a player that drove that Tavares line all season and ofcourse tavares helps him a ton aswell but as a person who watched that line all 82 games there is no doubt that marner drove it all season long. People also seem to not notice that hes the best 2way forward on the team, his defensive play this season atleast deserved a selki nomination and I can definetly see heart and selki trophy nominations in his future. As much as I dont think he deserves the same money as Matthew's there is no question that so far he is the most consistent, hard working and constantly improving player on the team and aside from kucherov and scheiffele I take him over any of the players they mentioned any day of the week.

@gordonbgraham

5 жыл бұрын

These guys conceded all those points you've made about Marner. Have you seen Point play for an entire season?

@avekrso285

5 жыл бұрын

@@gordonbgraham yeah I admittedly dont watch every Tampa game but I know and have seen what point did last year and I agree that it's very close and hes a guy that I shouldn't have left out but hes put up less points than marner on an even richer offensive team , granted both play the pk and are very good two way players but point did not look godly until this season even thought the prior was also really good at 66 points but from the beginning of marners career you saw the elite playmaking ability that maybe 5 players in the entire league have ontop of everything else he does. So yeah it's very very close and obviously points a third round pick but I still think I take marner considering it's very very close I just think marners ceiling in terms of special skill is just a bit higher, I think that if people are calling point the next Bergeron which is a bit much if you ask me then I'd say marner is comparable (if not potentially even better) to that of datsyuk.

@mikestevens3582

5 жыл бұрын

@@avekrso285 I agree with most of what you said, but I disagree with the marner/datsyuk comparison. datsyuk>marner hands down.

@avekrso285

5 жыл бұрын

@@mikestevens3582 I mean I think the comparison is very accurate based on their size, the fact that both are amazing 2 way wings while having the ability to step into center, both are shifty and really offensively creative and highly skilled players. I mean they even call mitch the magician ;) I think you will agree more and more as marners career goes on

is it bad that most of us come here to get as triggered as O-dog about everything that comes out of O-dog? "Point is better than Kuch" had to pause there and laugh that one out

@boltinabottle6307

2 жыл бұрын

It's a lot closer now than it was two years ago eh?

if the player isn’t going to the leafs and money doesn’t matter wtf is the point of this? it’s like saying if you had your own team would you rather have marner or McDaViD aNd CrOsBy

Now like.... they Would fight irl

The guy in the middle doesn’t lie well.