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Inside the NBA crew reacts to the Lakers blowing a 20-point lead to the Nuggets in Game 2 of their NBA Playoffs First Round matchup.
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Darvin Ham: how dare the refs dont award our team 15 more free throws to win the game? We are gonna fuckin protest this abomination
@JD-te6vm
Ай бұрын
Protest at next game for sure
@Rudeboishht
Ай бұрын
Yeah over turn 3 horrible calls then let Murray get a shooting fouls with 45 seconds left and tie the game , Barkley is garbage how many times we’ve heard people get on officiating when lakers win even the commentators it’s crazy
@alexquinonez8443
Ай бұрын
That's lebron. Ham keeps his mouth shut and hands in his pockets
@236gsw30
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 yoooo too accurate😂😂
This is why the nuggets are the NBA champions.
@JodyMan-io9yn
Ай бұрын
AD disappeared and didn’t demand the ball
@artlopez6621
Ай бұрын
Cuz he has to bow down to LeBroom. He's probably like I'll take over 4th quarter and AD has to accept his "Robin" role when reality is he is "Batman" on offense at least. He can't fw Goatkic on D Jokic is a true Big from the old school back to basket center
@dibsports
Ай бұрын
@@JodyMan-io9ynhe has 5 fouls. Thats why
@zuesram6114
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 exactly lol everytime the nuggets gonna loose, refs begin to not call fouls on them and help them climb back!!!!
@alext5340
Ай бұрын
@@zuesram6114 someone needs put some respect on the Nuggets name
Lakers didnt blow a lead; the nuggets stepped up.
The Lakers complaining about not getting calls is like an aging super model complaining that she not longer gets out of speeding tickets by undoing the top button.
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
They didn't complain about getting calls lol. They got the calls, the calls were just against them. That's a difference. It's one thing not to get countless no calls vs Jokic that turn into fastbreak points, it's another to get the calls taken away after clear review that it was a foul and the biggest call of the game was "marginal" contact on Murray 😂 That not only allowed them to tie it up, but was a horrible shot that was gonna turn into a potential transition bucket that would've put them up 4-5. The exact thing that helped Denver erase a 20 point lead
@ivanhernandez1652
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@dmenace265
Ай бұрын
@@KANGLEEJOHN😢😢😢😢
@dmenace265
Ай бұрын
@@KANGLEEJOHNthey had a 20 point led broski
@GoDxism
Ай бұрын
@@dmenace265 Why do you people keep bringing up the lead the Lakers had? So because they had the lead we can just disregard every rule, turn a blind eye to terrible calls, and pretend rules don't exist? No one is saying that call is what made the team lose. We're just drawing attention and acknowledging BS calls because something like this could happen on a potential game-winning shot. Imagine if that play with D'Lo never happened and instead AD hit Jamal on the head after the ball was released (the same way D'Lo got hit) and Jamal missed the shot. I guarantee that you and every Nuggets fan in attendance would have wanted a foul called because those are the rules.
Shaq and Barkly are right when they notice that the Lakers kept doubling Jokic when they were up 20, that there is proof that they are SCARRED of his game!
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
It's not about being scared, you double because you're smaller than the Nuggets and it threw off their rhythm. You don't let him bang AD down, who's not a center, to low post because they are getting favorable calls. They never call him for hooking which makes it hard to stop. The moment they stopped doubling they gave AD bs fouls.
@Logan-jv2cf
Ай бұрын
If your still doubling someone when your up 20 your scared of that guy 😂 it’s pretty simple also they don’t call him for the hook because he dosnt hook what he does is legal learn ball
@MichaelJenkins-wg7vw
Ай бұрын
@Logan-jv2cf yeah doubling Jokic while up by 20 points was not a good strategy
@Riley_rolo
Ай бұрын
@MichaelJenkins-wg7vw no matter what happens jokic would of dropped 40 if they kept playing man zone.
@Jankoboi
Ай бұрын
@@KANGLEEJOHNplease help me understand how doubling someone means you aren’t scared? I swear y’all be saying anything
AD was cookin ALL GAME and shot ONCE in the 4th??? That can’t be right
@marqusthetruth6614
Ай бұрын
That always happen
@TheSands83
Ай бұрын
That’s lebron James offense for you 😂
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
You can't shoot if you're getting fouled lol. It's not like he and Bron stopped running the pick and roll. Fouls allowed Denver to neutralize that
@carbondated21
Ай бұрын
@@KANGLEEJOHNWE DONE W THE 2010’S!!!!!
@4purs
Ай бұрын
They don’t got any plays for AD all they do is pick and roll and iso. He barely even had the ball 4th quarter makes no sense.
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@carlosvaldez3093
Ай бұрын
LMFAO. RDC gonna have a blast with this loss
@micahlee4128
Ай бұрын
"Give me your RING!!!"
AD got fouled after the final buzzer 🤣🤣🤣
@alexquinonez8443
Ай бұрын
Nice of AD to join the celebration
@jammiebooker6489
Ай бұрын
@@alexquinonez8443he's missed how that feels to win at Denver
Lakers played a great game. Nuggets are just elite! They do so many things well under pressure it’s crazy. Hats off to both teams. If lakers played any other team besides Boston they would of won
@penkima4923
Ай бұрын
The Wolves do look strong.
Lakers are allergic to boxing out.
@TheJusDon
Ай бұрын
Facts
LJ with the defensive switch that left AD on a point guard…
@penkima4923
Ай бұрын
Was probably a good decision by LeBron. But KCP was left open in the paint, which Murray didn't capitalize on.
@Sketch_0123
Ай бұрын
@@penkima4923 The second that ball was inbounded, Murray knew what he wanted to do. He wasn’t going to pass it to a role player. He was taking that last shot. Big time player doing big time things!
@slade8995
Ай бұрын
Aren’t people complaining AD should have been a DPOY finalist? He should be able to switch
@penkima4923
Ай бұрын
@@slade8995 People don't really know who can defend and who can not. AD hasn't been playing good defense this year. And a near 7-footer will never be fully able to switch to a guard.
@slade8995
Ай бұрын
@@penkima4923 Wemby, Gobert, and Bam all had better defensive years than AD
The Nuggets are simply a better team. Simple math
@gamingwithsoulcity
Ай бұрын
No shit
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
Every team is better at home with the refs in their favor 😂 Denver marginally better and coaching is what gives them the slight edge. Funny how the Lakers win the FT battle during the reg, as they should with their entire scheme being in the paint, and letting teams shoot jumpers. But vs Denver Jokic has only been in foul trouble 1 time in the last 10 games with the responsibility of not just trying to guard a player he can't guard but the last łine of defense against best driver and finisher in the game still at 39 lol. AMAZING 😂
Lakers are 2 Lose Away before heading to Cancun!
Kenny talking is stuff he know what he is talking about. Even witch a 20 point lead you saw the fear the lakers played with because joker do what he wants. It’s just you know he gonna make a bucket if he is in the post. Kenny said it right all these buckets Davis made were tuff shots because he has no post game and LeBron has no bag. It’s just everything they do it’s easy to defend. Like if you got a someone that make easy buckets it give you some space and safety like jokic does. Nuggets just to good Jokic is just a class for his self. I would say if he does what he does he gonna be in the goat debate really soon.
Vando needs to come back in Game 3 and inject some renewed 🔥 into the Lakers like Dean Portman in The Mighty Ducks!
We stopped feeding AD and stopped giving Dlo shots 🤦♂️
Let's go Nuggets!
I been saying Murray was clutch since the bubble. Even when he has bad shooting nights when 4th quarter hits he turns it on
as a Celtics fan who’s terrified of the nuggets I think the easiest way to sum this game up is “who’s your daddy” nuggets are fucking TERRIFYING, down 20, bron, ad, and dlo all went off, Murray starts off horrible, jokic just shits out a a damn near 30-20-10 game and Murray turns into literally Jesus Christ in the last few minutes…. I love the Celtics but my god the nuggets are for sure gonna kick our teeth in.
@metalhead2536
Ай бұрын
If they do the "Let's shoot 50 threes even when they don't go in" stuff it's going to be ugly some games and a blowout for the celtics other games. It's what your team has signed on for.
@tompratt7125
Ай бұрын
Nuggets fan here. You may be overreacting. The Nuggets have to get through a brutal western conference playoffs while the Celtics will waltz through a laughably bad east so the path to the finals will be far, far, far easier for the Celtics. That does make a difference. I think the Nuggets are the better team and will beat the Celtics but you can't ignore how beat up the Nuggets will be going into the finals if they get there.
@lapocasini1246
Ай бұрын
If Nuggets play like they have been these last couple games, Celtics may have nothing to worry about. Though i do think Jokic is intentionally going as easy on his agitated wrist as possible while still pulling off a win. So that it can be in better shape for harder teams like Boston. As good as his numbers were he doesnt seem to be his normal self to me.
@SuperZbros
Ай бұрын
@@tompratt7125 that’s kinda what scares me the Celtics are mental midgets, still go to iso and chuck up stupid midrange shots in the clutch half the time, if they waltz into the finals after the nuggets have to actually play tough competition I feel like they’re just gonna be ready to smack the shit out us, Celtics are so weak mentally and the nuggets are the exact opposite, when they nuggets are down 20 the gut feeling I have is they’re probably gonna come back and win, they’re at least gonna make it close, when the Celtics are down 20 the gut feeling I have welp there’s almost no chance they’re gonna win this shit
They ain’t let AD take over in the 4th and continued to run slow ball while moving up the court. Each transition was driven towards a pick & roll that never worked.
@carbondated21
Ай бұрын
LBJ offense
@student99bg
Ай бұрын
They were gassed out that's why they run slowly
Freeze the frame at 1:12 "it's only been done by......." looks at Shaq 😂😂😂
@allabouthewaves4354
Ай бұрын
Lmfaoooo
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Lebron took a 3 with 12 sec left on the shot clock, open lane to basket and a tie game. Why they LOST.
Offensive Rebounds: Game 1: Nuggets 15, Lakers 6 Game 2: Nuggets 9, Lakers 4
Kay sotto and Howard is the key of champion of Lakers
Lavar was right. Laker will never win 🏆 a chip without Lonzo. They need to trade Lebron and D-Lo for ALL 3 ball brothers then they will win another championship. If not, then forget it man.
@student99bg
Ай бұрын
Brooooo
@Markese-cd6sc
Ай бұрын
😂
10-0 Let's stop acting like the Lakers can compete with the Nuggets
@penkima4923
Ай бұрын
The Lakers clearly can compete with the Nuggets.
@calmdownbruh8518
Ай бұрын
@@penkima4923 Yeah. Until the last 5 minutes of the ball game. Denver clears.
@PM-wp6ze
Ай бұрын
@@penkima4923how if the nuggets were at their worst while lakers were at their best and lakers still lost??
@penkima4923
Ай бұрын
@@PM-wp6ze The nuggets are not in their worst at home. And with a healthy Murray. And the lakers are not at their best as an away team. And without Vando, Reddish and Wood. And Reaves and Rui underperforming.
@GoDxism
Ай бұрын
@@PM-wp6ze Lakers were hardly at their best lmfao. The only players in double figures were AD, LeBron and D'Lo. For them to be at their best, Rui and Reaves need to also score at least 13 and 15, respectively. If LeBron was 31, this series would be tied if not 2-0 Lakers way.
Strange, they said lakers shouldnt double joker. But on other shows people said why lakers giving him single coverage. It goes to show that no answers, double or not lakers lose.
They must have get big center player,like Kay sotto 7,3 height 21 years I know old,and the future center of Lakers
They didn’t need to double Joker, AD going at Joker was all the double team they needed
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Nuggets own the Lakers 😂
20 rebounds! Has LA never heard of blocking out?
Lechoke should blame the refs for missing an open 3 that couldve won them the game. 😂
@brettdavidson3866
Ай бұрын
You know Mike and Kobe missed wide open shots right or are you a modern nba casual ? 😂
@jimmydishkawnt
Ай бұрын
@@brettdavidson3866and? You dont hear them blaming the refs after their missed shots do you? you know you dont have any reading comprehension right? Or are you just lntellectuaIIy challenged? 🤡
Chuck knows something about throwing people, ask the kid in Vegas he threw through a window
The key of champion of Lakers is center player, like Kay sotto 7, 3 height and young,it's very difficult to lebron and Davis,,, without center player,they must immediately get center player like, Kay sotto and Howard as the twins Tower of Lakers
Come on lakers let’s go man , y’all got it in y’all. Prove everyone wrong! Y’all got this!
@wesbackhaha1390
Ай бұрын
U lying
Lakers could sure use Bronny now to guard Murray. 😂😂😂
Good.
Lakers must immediately get big center player, like Kay sotto 7,3 height and young, can't depend jokic and wenbanyama
Darvin Ham put on a masterclass in squandering a 20pt lead
@PM-wp6ze
Ай бұрын
How if LeGM is the one who runs that team?
@jammiebooker6489
Ай бұрын
@@PM-wp6ze he ain't LeCoach (double team on Joker)
Damn Lebron gotta pull off some magic here.
When’s Kenny going to say “it’s over”
Joker MVP
Is Kenny Smith after getting a head tattoo to make it look like his got hair ??????
Isn't it funny, that after AD says he can guard one through five on the floor that Murray puts a shot in his face to win the game?
I am a Lakers fan so i have accepted the fact the Nuggets will beat my Lakers, but please baby please i dot hope they dont let the fvkn Cs Win. As a Lakers fan, id rather see the Nuggets win instead of the Celtics
Did they found AD yet?
@aliasone9827
Ай бұрын
What u talking about AD was a beast
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
@@aliasone9827They don't realize that officiating allowed Jokic to start cooking. AD was in foul trouble but Jokic wasn't with AD and Bron going at him all game lol. So much that they put Jokic on a small forward 😂 But the Lakers are the only team that fear somebody
It’s not really crazy anymore b/c they aren’t banging for rebounds anymore in the league… Every shoots jump shots so they’re easy rebounds to get for the most… but the Joker is as solid as it gets!!!! He’s the Real Deal
The key of champion of Lakers is big center player,, they must immediately get Kay sotto and Howard as twin towers of Lakers
Lakers players must look at it that against Nuggets, they are one, one for the purpose of the game; Championship. The players must lodge this in their psyche. Two, Dervin Ham must manage his players clock appropriately. I noticed Labron getting out to catch breath in both games. Rui who was doing much of the help with the joker was not managed well and that was key to collapse in game two.
@KAye633
Ай бұрын
Even if they upset the nuggets and win they would have to expend so much energy in the semi finals, conference finals, and finals. This team is not built for that long term. They are gassed.
Thank you Mr Barkley for appreciating Jokic.
@JTR_14
Ай бұрын
He always has. Pretty sure he was calling out media last year for only talking about LA during the sweep.
Lakers crying about officiating?😂😂😂
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
Lol show a game where the Lakers got that many favorable calls vs Denver that were bad calls? 😂😂
@WilliamBrightman-dn8de
Ай бұрын
Blowina a 20 PT LEAD and blaming the officiating for you LOSING PRICELESS @KANGLEEJOHN
@GoDxism
Ай бұрын
@@WilliamBrightman-dn8de You can blow a 20-point lead and still complain (not blame) the officiating. Imagine if the Nuggets were up by 30 and Jokic clotheslined LeBron and no foul was called. Would you still be saying "30-point deficit and blaming the officiating." No you wouldn't, cause rules are rules and when BS calls are made you have to acknowledge them.
Are we going to act like the Joker is not being guarded by a 6’8 Hachimura
@student99bg
Ай бұрын
What happened with put Rui on Jokić 😂😂
@KAye633
Ай бұрын
@@student99bgexactly, all of the excuses in the world
Lakers need big center player,like Kay sotto 7,3 height and young,can't depend jokic and wenbanyama,,,it's easy to lebron and Davis,to penetrate inside game,,,,,with big center player, like Kay sotto 7,3 height and young
How about westbrooks 20, 20, 20 triple double???
@donesy125
Ай бұрын
The stat is 25+ points
How lebron n ham be complaining abt uncalled fouls when ad was playing tango with the joker in game 1 n no calls
Lakers had poor scoring in 3rd and 4th quarters while having too many unforced turn overs. When they move the ball they look way better. When they only run DHOs they are easier to defend.
Lakers got no defense against Jokić.
Kawhi's buzzer beater was better
Because Ham isn’t a good strategist & his adjustments if at all are too late. Last time the Lakers beat the Nuggets in the playoffs was because Dwight got into the jokers psyche. Why Howard hasn’t been on the team since then is idiotic. IF it’s do to AD then AD needs to muscle up because he’s being manhandled.
@arcanus5120
Ай бұрын
Whoa whoa - AD was not the reason this one got thrown away. You got it right in the first half. Ham removing AD coverage on Jocic is absolutely the reason this did not go well, plus some gabe vincent lack of usage over dinwidde. That can be chalked up to them being gassed plus ham.
@OscarRamirez-cp1xs
Ай бұрын
Can’t allow the joker to grab 20 reb
@OscarRamirez-cp1xs
Ай бұрын
💯 Vincent needs to be on the floor much more. His performance in last years playoffs is the flippen reason they signed him but he’s getting the Ham
@parkermudsen1063
Ай бұрын
Dwight of 2024 is not Dwight’s of 2020. He is not the answer.
@metalgear5289
Ай бұрын
blame game as usual when losing. had murray missed that would u still blame ham? 2nd, dwight is already washed, he got toyed with in taiwan. what makes u think he can be as nba fit now. he may be physically fit but not nba fit, big difference. 3rd, ad been carrying the most loads. he the one needs much more help. he pushed so much he was gassed at the last stretch. wont even point out that bron missed an all day free crucial three. it happens, u make ones, u miss ones. but stupid fanbase should really stop sayin he is clutch.
Lakers are cooked! Sweep 🧹
@KAye633
Ай бұрын
Never a lakers fan, but I don’t think it’ll be a sweep
Missed an open wide 3?yeah Lebron is GOAT 😅
@OscarRamirez-cp1xs
Ай бұрын
LeBron might not even cut top 5
@gmailgmail6234
Ай бұрын
So if he made it he would be goat? Lol he serious rn
@camva24
Ай бұрын
@@OscarRamirez-cp1xsDoes this series diminishes his legacy just wanna know?
@OscarRamirez-cp1xs
Ай бұрын
Last years series & so far this years yes but he’ll later twist it & say they didn’t have the right personnel to win.
@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx
Ай бұрын
Yes just like winning can help it@@camva24
😂💯💯💯 if you ask why the nuggets are so good in the fourth and coming back because the refs do not call fouls on Denver and it helps them climb back into the games that is what LeBron sees and myself and as a Lakers fan I never make these kind of excuses but clearly they allow them to get away with this and call fouls on the other team!!!! ALSO AD NEEDS the BALL!!!!!!!!! Darvin HAM must be fired!!!!! Even if they WIN FIRE HAM!!!!!!!!
Figures... Here I was thinking GOAT JAMES had provided some be mad you missed it performances
Sold so hard. Cmon Lebron pouts and the whole team stops playing? What happened this is not how the talent should shake out. Lakers showed more talent then they just sell it in half 2? Coach the team-somebody!! Play the bigs!!! Nuggets played more minutes and we r still babying Davis and everyone's minutes-win the game Bron when u hav more talent-you guys make Murray look like an mvp-lock him down-take some pride in defense and locking people down-we let teams back and we dont get a coach's timeout or a layup or anything-largest blown league and it happened for no reason-you r better Lebron-u got to believe it though
I predict another sweep by Denver 4 -0...LeBron and Davis are done 😂
@KAye633
Ай бұрын
I don’t think so, they may get one or even two games
Hachimura was BAD. Darwin Ham a sucker. LBJ, AD & DLO were great. If that is the case, you know it is a mental thing. I give credit to the Nuggets, because they are GREAT. But this…. This is the Lakers blame.
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Why did lebron shoot that three
The problem… ? Is Lebron… He single handedly lost ANOTHER playoff game for his team by taking a selfish 3 with 14 seconds on the clock ?!? This must be the single DUMBEST play in playoff history.
Listening to Chuck & Shaq you would believe that they have never reacted like LBJ after a tough loss. I am here to tell y’all that they have! I really would have loved to have seen them be honest about how they experienced this type of situation.
Austin Reeves deserves less playtime next game. He was a sellout!
@JD-te6vm
Ай бұрын
He’s actually a 8/9th option so average
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
You smoking dope, nobody out of guards has played better D on Murray lol. And it's not like Gabe and Spencer been doing anything tf lol. Max need to get some of their minutes lol
@KAye633
Ай бұрын
@@KANGLEEJOHNhe didn’t play better defense on him lmao Murray already said he was off but it had NOTHING to do with reaves 😂😂😂
Refs were a complete joke tonight. But the Lakers were playing like they were trying not to lose instead of playing to win.
@TheSands83
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 why because the lakers didn’t get 20 m😊free throws like usual 😂
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Trash Darvin ham
Sooo over the whiny lakers! Dont watch ! Sb WA not LA. Whiny Lakers
Lakers winning next 2 at home. They're pissed and this nuggets teams has flaws U can exploit
@mohsinkamal2468
Ай бұрын
Choking a 20 point lead and yet you say the fakers gonna exploit flaws of the nuggets? Its called championship pedigree boi, fakers aint winning nothin except an early ticket to cancun
@aliasone9827
Ай бұрын
Nah this one was a daggar ..it killed the spirit
@espiritubautista1176
Ай бұрын
4-0 in their face at LA
@wesbackhaha1390
Ай бұрын
Lies
@KAye633
Ай бұрын
Every team has “flaws” that others can exploit but do you think they didn’t watch footage and begin the process of cleaning it up for game 3? Lmao and the lakers have BEEN pissed about losing 10 straight…
Lebron cant do it alone. The man 45 playin the best on offense and defense wtf
@TheJusDon
Ай бұрын
39
@TheSands83
Ай бұрын
What? Davis n Russell played well.. lebron literally just stands around on defense and on offense when he doesn’t have the ball he doesn’t move at all or get involved in the offense. Not to mention he’s constantly blaming his teammates for shit he’s responsible for
@TheSands83
Ай бұрын
Lebron plays no defense hardly at all😂
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
@@TheSands83You definitely don't watch LeBron, he plays the 4. You can't not play defense at the 4, it's logically impossible especially how much LA switches on defense or goes over screens
@carbondated21
Ай бұрын
WE DONE W THE 2010’S!!!!!
Let’s keep it a buck.!! Lebron lost the game. Who misses a wide open game winner with pope laying on the court.!! I knew Le-excuses was not going to take responsibility/accountability for the loss. Blaming one no call against Russell. That’s ludicrous. Please 🛑 the goat 🐐 BS 💩.!!
I hate the lakers
People talking fear like Denver whole scheme isn't to double and pack the paint vs AD and Bron even when they have a big lead lol. If that's the case what's that say about the defending champions that they had to put Jokic on Rui because he couldn't stop AD even r with a double dig on both sides lol. They doubled because not only did it threw off their whole rhythm but they understand that Jokic gets calls vs AD that AD or Bron doesn't vs Jokic. That's the difference this series. AD didn't get those fouls til stopped doubling. And anyone that says officiating didn't dictate this game is a fool. Refs allowed Denver to take fouls/points off the board while not making the same calls on the other end. Bron didn't foul Murray and they got away with slapping DLo in the face, EVEN AFTER IT BEING REVIEWED 😂😂
@Naim-Lest
Ай бұрын
nice imagination
Lebron Ain't no GOAT and this game proves it. If you were playing against Kobe or MJ you would have Lost.
The Lakers sucks because of LeBron. Garbage of all trash 🗑. What goat?
i cant believe they didnt let dinwiddie play time , they would have won easily ...
@gmailgmail6234
Ай бұрын
Hell no
@Creed23667
Ай бұрын
He was ass
@DanielTucker-vg8bw
Ай бұрын
-9 +/- 😂
@KANGLEEJOHN
Ай бұрын
You must didn't watch the game lol. Couldn't do a damn thing on offense and Reaves has been playing better defense than him. Might as well give Max. Vando and Wood all of Gabe and Spencer's minutes. Hayes won't be playing as much either
Darvin ham gotta go