NSDA Nationals 2018 - Public Forum Debate Final Round
Mission San Jose's Devesh Kodnani and Ishan Maunder win the National Tournament on a 9-6 decision over Flanagan's Eden Medina and Christian Sheerer.
The resolution is "Resolved: On balance, the benefits of United States participation in the North American Free Trade Agreement outweigh the consequences."
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Speech and Debate is honestly so fun. You can bash your opponents as much as you want inside the room, but outside you can be the nicest person ever
@anniefeng751
4 жыл бұрын
That explains your profile picture.
@p1eboi804
4 жыл бұрын
@@anniefeng751 yuppp pretty much
@lilkay2766
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Zhang yes 🤪😂🤣
@Derferder-yt
3 жыл бұрын
Yes dude! We had such a hot debate and outside we were just congratulating each other
@davidcoates6201
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people don't get that...I dated girls from rival debate schools way back when, but we were properly vicious to one another in-round. If learning that someone who disagrees with you about policy matters can be your friend is all we get, I think the activity does a great service.
I love how the speakers tone in their voice change when they begin speaking normally versus during their constructive speech
first speaker: 4:03 (neg) first speaker: 11:26 (aff) second speaker: 21:24 (neg) second speaker: 29:56 (aff) first speaker (2nd speech): 39:17 (neg) first speaker (2nd speech): 44:45 (aff) second speaker (2nd speech): 50:47 (neg)
@adreemaa5102
3 жыл бұрын
thank u!!!
@spicychai2723
3 жыл бұрын
thx homie i had to use this for an assignment
@violetvlogzzz9599
2 жыл бұрын
Saw this after I watched all of it 😭 buh ur good cus I needed to anyways since I had actually competed yesterday!
@stuartsimp6985
2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@lolk7726
8 ай бұрын
thank uou omg
Debate and Speech are hands down one of the most important and underrepresented classes for young students to take around the world. More adults should also practice these skills to train multi-variability, nuance, and the art of having outstanding conversations to progress society. Thank you for this share! :)
@hellohowareyou9745
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct! I have seen so many people underrepresent the value of speech and proceed to apply to law school, it's extremely sad when they fail, but speech is extremely helpful for not just law, but everything. You're extremely right! Underrated comment lol
@emma-ru8ig
4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Before I began debate, I was very shy and socially awkward. However, I have grown to be more confident and clear when I speak due to debate. This has benefitted me in just situations as simple as talking to a cashier.
@kedits448
2 жыл бұрын
Negative: Debate and speech are hands down one of the most unimportant and over-represented classes for young students to take around the world. More adults should not practice these un-skilled to not train multi- variability, nuance, and the art of having not very outstanding conversations that don’t progress society. No thank you for this share! :(
@madeline._moore
2 жыл бұрын
completely agree!!!
@owenflaherty9207
Жыл бұрын
Bruh Ik this is three years old but my school is so poor it’s a club with no funding lmao!
speech: talking debate: passive aggressive talking
this has become a bible for public forum debaters
@roseyclouds6585
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly
“for the last time” made me really sad
@arielt.375
4 жыл бұрын
Kyro facts
@fredvima9916
4 жыл бұрын
for some reason PFers do that at the beginning of the final round of Nats
@bineetroy4581
3 жыл бұрын
Why is it sad?
@tanyayu
3 жыл бұрын
@@bineetroy4581 it's just the last time they'll ever debate
@bineetroy4581
3 жыл бұрын
@@tanyayu Oh Ic
Who's heart drops everytime someone speaks over their opponent in crossfire?
@emilyyao6842
4 жыл бұрын
@@hellohowareyou9745 no need to be so rude lmao... if i started yelling at u abt how u dont know anything abt like rocket science or quantum physics bc u made a snarky comment abt it how would u feel? stop being such a smartass and calling people uncultured swines for making a joke abt debate
@emilyyao6842
4 жыл бұрын
Unliveliness oh no what happened? why r u so salty, did u lose an anime battle? stop attacking my english, im not trying to write an english essay like u are lmaoooo why does small things like this bother u sm
@zachakeson1281
4 жыл бұрын
@@hellohowareyou9745 I would disagree with this point. You are making assumptions about the judging process that are not consistent. A large part about winning a debate round is being the "Angels," on the simple premise that an attitude of wanting to help others and politeness is attractive to judges. If you have a judge that is leaning against you in a round and you begin acting rudely during cross-examination, it doesn't communicate a winning position, it just communicates that you either don't know what you are talking about or that you are just a jerk. Sure, a judge who already tenders towards your side might see a dominated cross-examination as a positive, but any experienced judge is not going to be at that point in such early stages of debate. The only thing you'll accomplish is creating judge bias against you. And this can even happen with lay judges because if they have no leanings to who is winning due to obliviousness, they will be more open to voting for the team that was professional and articulate. No competent coach is going to tell you otherwise, so you are wrong in saying that it is what you are supposed to do.
@zachakeson1281
4 жыл бұрын
@@hellohowareyou9745 I'm talking about PuF. I do not have much knowledge about club rules.
@emilyyao6842
4 жыл бұрын
Unliveliness if ur club debate then get off this pf video
tHaNk YoU rAjEsH
Speaker thanks everyone nicely. Then proceeds to try to trash opponents.
@williamg.2785
4 жыл бұрын
Such is the art of debate.
@adriansendejas5626
4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Speaks thats kinda just how you debate at the highest level?
@cadeschaeffer6267
3 жыл бұрын
Fancy seeing you here ben. lol
I got to watch this live and it was just as good watching it again. I've talked about this round non-stop to my team and I'm excited they can watch it now!
When I first joined my school's debate club 1.5 years ago they showed this video to us on our first practice. Coming back to this debate as now a varsity debater in my club has given me a new level of appreciation for this debate.
That rebuttal was kinda fire ngl
when you win nationals puf finals but you have 12 subs on youtube
@jonaswall9524
5 жыл бұрын
Haha what up Maya
@mayas8341
5 жыл бұрын
Jonas Wall oh hey there jonas
@BeckHassen
5 жыл бұрын
when you don't qual for state but you have 2,300 subscribers
@mayas8341
5 жыл бұрын
Beck Hassen when you don’t qualify for state or nationals and you have 3 subscribers
@rishinarayanan6952
5 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAH danggg bruh let him have his moment frrrr
Wow, I’m a freshman and my brother and his friends all made nationals and did good, the competition is very good around the US, and I really wish I can get to this point in the future!
Watching this live was amazing. Great job to both teams!!!!
@airbagnugget1289
4 жыл бұрын
Who won?
@lukewu331
4 жыл бұрын
Airbag Nugget Ishan and Devesh won
Man, as a Congress debater PF is so interesting to me. The depth of knowledge ppl need to know still baffles me.
@brianperlstein3784
5 жыл бұрын
Sidharth Karnam stop doing congress and do PF instead it’s so much more fun. I used to do congress and after switching to PF I’ll never go back to Congress
@sidkarnam3597
5 жыл бұрын
Brian Perlstein I’m a senior so I’m done with debate, but I would’ve if I knew sooner.
@brianperlstein3784
5 жыл бұрын
Sidharth Karnam oh frig that sucks. Have fun at college tho haha
@sidkarnam3597
5 жыл бұрын
Brian Perlstein lmao thx
@Moonmerism
4 жыл бұрын
@@drdefecation don't tell him about policy
I’m currently a freshman and JV PF debater , I hope I can come back to this video and this comment to see my progress because it was a truly amazing debate from both sides. It’s very Inspirational
@dairyofh
2 ай бұрын
how was it??? i was a freshman jvpf debater too this year and my season just ended
@dairyofh
2 ай бұрын
wait pause you’re a k-pop fan let’s be besties
@Kazuhasabs
2 ай бұрын
@@dairyofh oo I have states but then the seasons basically over BUT YAYAYA ANOTHER KPOP STAB
Whenever I miss debate, I come and watch this whole debate. Pretty sure I'm fully schooled in NAFTA and Mexico 😂
That was SPECTACULAR!!! What a uNiT!! I’m also an aspiring JV debater, so learning about Ishan’s transition into the open division, him being able to prosper along with Devesh, is incredible! I’ve been a fan ever since PF videos, and I’ve even got to meet Ishan and watch him debate live this year! You are both legends, and it was an honour to watch your last round!
@belchen3237
5 жыл бұрын
hi ying ying
@octave9029
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Kristen!
@xieer1771
5 жыл бұрын
OMG YING YING
The very first speaker is a freaking GOD...he's hilarious 😂👏
@itsyaboyzd9372
3 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more, he's a fucking legend. That moment "Really? That's your case" moment at 16:07 was great
Amazing debate, this was very interesting to watch and learn from, too. Good luck to all the debaters in future
Devesh is such a good speaker and can really get at the logic of the arguments in such a cool manner!
when you're here for an assignment and are suposed to take notes but u don't understand a single thing-
Me watching this for an assignment in debate class lol
@alanrong7064
2 жыл бұрын
hey me too! was suprised by the length because i thought it was like 20 mins
@username4483
2 жыл бұрын
Debate class?
This is a great debate round
it's about time. Ballots should all be given out based on thank you speeches tbh!
The rebuttal was amazing!!!
This is amazing. The way the round flows is so smooth! I hope I can debate like THIS is the future... the first CX was kinda sketch tho lol, very funny
it's interesting watching the pf style of debate coming from tp background, but i found it interesting during the crossfire section because it seemed like the debate lost it's formality to an extent
The first CX is aggravating me lol 💀😂
Why is the mission san jose first speaker so much more attractive than the second speaker?
@davekodnani
5 жыл бұрын
Great question Mr. Brooks. I personally asked this so-called "second speaker" to wear a paper bag over his face before delivering his "rebuttal" speech. Alas, the arrogant fool went up without it, at the peril of the audience. Indeed, I recently learned that the Mission San Jose team lost four ballots because of it.
@madame_milky
4 жыл бұрын
Devesh Kodnani wow, what a brave man.
is there a chance you can email all of your guys prep for this topic
The last final focus was straight up a rap what on earth
@asvenson5267
3 жыл бұрын
Literally PF is just trying to do an impression of Eminem except these 4 know what they're doing
Hey Devesh! Great Video!!
This is pretty godlike
my condolences are with your for the TOC results
watching this for debate camp
@benoitpelchat7325
5 жыл бұрын
same shengmeng?
@benoitpelchat7325
5 жыл бұрын
Mr.FaGaN?
Hey Devesh! I'm a junior PF debater, and I was wondering if you had any basic tips I should use during the debate to help me win? (I am debating the topic: Resolved: The EU should join the Belt and Roads Initiative.)
@Emma-es2jp
4 жыл бұрын
@FLUFFSTER no, same topic until the end of october.
@rileyhaveman894
4 жыл бұрын
@FLUFFSTER that topic started in november
@lilylucas3033
4 жыл бұрын
mechanicalhotdog dude i loved that resolution. i hated the cyber offense one though :(
@jackstarr7461
4 жыл бұрын
lily lucas Yeah BRI was fun but OCO’s are fun too
@tabifiedler6944
4 жыл бұрын
I miss the BRI resolution! I’m not a fan of OCOs personally haha.
They kept on interrupting each other in the crossfires That’s not right
@jystardustfan7170
4 жыл бұрын
Unliveliness bro chill out. You’re probably ass at debating and insecure as hell
@tabifiedler6944
4 жыл бұрын
Unliveliness actually, coming from a debater, overriding your opponents in crossfire is quite rude imo. If it’s just on a couple of occasions, okay, it happens, but I personally get annoyed when my opponents ask a question and then don’t give me the opportunity to answer.
@liamwebb8918
4 жыл бұрын
That's how a crossfire works, literally all a crossfire is, is interrupting eachother
@drdefecation
2 жыл бұрын
@@hellohowareyou9745 how to tell people that youre an annoying asshole who has zero etiquette during cross - i would make a comment about your speaker points but chances are youre a Lonely Debater (LD)
All the debaters were incredible, but Devesh was definitely a step above the rest. Also very impressed that those kids from Flanagan got so far being from the South (as I am) which is always an underrepresented region but MAN were they bad sports. Mad respect to Devesh and Ishan who were cool as a cucumber the whole time lol
@michaelgold7048
2 жыл бұрын
This might be one of the worst comments on all of KZread
Amazing!
Came her just to remind myself that I will never be like them... I'm impressed. Young. Smart.
which side won? I feel like they were both tied pretty close
@gwuavi
7 ай бұрын
Con
this is literary better than watching UFC
@ankitakanodia2342
Ай бұрын
swiss king good
i love being so mean in round and the. making close friends after
wait what happened at toc?
@fredvima9916
4 жыл бұрын
everyone loses at the TOC
yo can someone give me a summary of this debate?
On this episode of “why is this on my recommended?”
@abhiramkidambi6666
3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-ig4zh savage
21:06 no context
Can anyone else hear that small breath in-between clauses and in commas in these speeches
Hi Mr. Parrish.
Really heartfelt opening speech from Ishan, reading straight off the tablet. hehe xd just kidding around
@utkarsh1366
5 жыл бұрын
Thats why the judges melted by the emotional speech of Mr. Maunder. He runs an emotions argument, godlike. XD
Shoutout to my man Rajech
does anyone know who won this round? I have a pretty good idea, but that's from my own opinion...
@averyjohnson7728
Жыл бұрын
It was the team with both boys
Wow, Devesh is playing in a league of his own. I just get annoyed, when everyone is talking super fast, trying to get as many arguments and facts on the table as physically possible. Debate is not a rap battle. You have to make your points clear and make everyone understand the logic behind your reasoning, which means talking slightly slower, so people can follow what you're trying to say. Well done! Congratulations for the win.
@aydenlui
4 жыл бұрын
Flóra Várhegyi k well no matter what, it’s still all about facts. anyone who disagrees does not know what formal congress debate is
@hellohowareyou9745
4 жыл бұрын
@@aydenlui yeah, although Congress is based on facts, there is always an element of speaking eloquency so in some cases it comes down to speaking. Particularly, you need to cater to the judge, whether they are experienced or not. So you're right in the case that Congress debate is very robotic, but it also includes speaking, that is why it is debate
@aydenlui
4 жыл бұрын
Unliveliness agreed. These people do talk abnormally fast and kind of turn it into a spew contest, but it still does come down to the facts. The difference is how well u can articulate it without sounding like a guy on 2x speed so I get what ur saying
@hellohowareyou9745
4 жыл бұрын
@@aydenlui exactly! The reason I dislike Congressional debate is because it is entirely about facts and discourages free thinking, whereas if this was any other type of debate, his speaking speeds would be unacceptable
im only here so that my teacher will give me a good grade i myself dont like debate but you all did a very good job
Who won
Bro we have the same name
Who is the winner??
@stina263
4 жыл бұрын
MAHILET TEFERA The negate team won (The team on the right)
I can't believe it's their last tournament. I am going to cry when it's my last tournament.
@niharsomayajula893
4 жыл бұрын
Why
@katherynedwyer9657
2 жыл бұрын
hi arman
Love this debate but the crossfire is so funny :b
yo turn us down fam
@rjiang15
4 жыл бұрын
ok
@bonkko
2 жыл бұрын
💀💀
Thank you miss loves debate class for a waste of a hour of my time for a homework :(
Us PF people aren’t allowed to look at each other while debating because hands have been thrown lmaoooo
The first speaker of Con is a legend
Im only here cus my debate coach insists we flow this debate😶
the rebuttal was so funny
“Really, cause that’s your case” 🤣 🤣
@prakhar3072
2 жыл бұрын
16:08
Am I the only one that has to slow this video down at some points to understand?
@atrashbag8105
3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure your not, but realize that these debaters and judges have been researching and learning about this topic for weeks, if not months, which allows them to catch up on the information faster.
Can you stop flexing on us pls 😂😂😂
I want to do debate, but I'm too shy
@zoebecker1847
3 жыл бұрын
aww you should try it! @agirlwholikesbooks i’m also pretty shy and super introverted but i love debate so much and i promise it will help you find your voice - it’s an amazing activity :)
Am I the only one who only likes the fighting not the facts 😅
who won??
@megan8992
2 жыл бұрын
The first team that spoke!
Which team won???
@gwuavi
7 ай бұрын
con
Dislikes are from Flanagan kids
@michaelgold7048
2 жыл бұрын
Nah. I went to Flanagan and liked because of the quality of the round
imo the other team lost because they didn't share a bro hug before the first speech like you guys did
I need to know who won. Someone please tell me.
@keeganbevis3468
3 жыл бұрын
The first speaking team (con) won :)
@mairajaswal8188
3 жыл бұрын
@@keeganbevis3468 thx :)
Let me know why Christian is so cute
@himangi5407
2 жыл бұрын
right
What is the topic of this video
@Johannesburg_
Жыл бұрын
the resolution was on balance, the benefits of United States participation in the North American Free Trade Agreement outweigh the consequences, basically the participation of the united states in the north american free trade agreement does more good than bad, the first guy negated (disagreed) with that point
Aaand subscribed
What happened at 42:22? I do speech, so I have no idea what that long pause was!
@sufiyantirmizi5779
4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Burroughs they took prep time
@ankitjaiswal5616
4 жыл бұрын
the opposing team called for a card
Hi from Tigard High School
So who one?
@haotongxue2508
3 жыл бұрын
Mission San Jose did
wavy wavy wavy
At 0:34 can anyone hear the "yeet" in the background?
@wangning6205
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bradygromacki8967
4 жыл бұрын
*YEET*
I'm not trying to be rude but listening to the crossfire gives me anxiety
as aff second speaker i would be writin a rebuttal the entire time my partner is giving their final speech before giving thier case
@aceott8690
Жыл бұрын
Prepping during things like that / during ev exchange is seen as really rude and bad sportsmanship
a beautiful turn at 31:49
@partypanda3517
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh that’s a delink
Hello, I’m a 6th grade debater going to nationals this year and I was looking for some tips on the crossfire
safiya nygaard
@zoebecker1847
3 жыл бұрын
lol sure
Policy debater/ LDer here. I have a question about CX in public forum... What the fuck?
@starsmashmations4969
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even know and I debate PF
Wait no spreading???
@elliet1535
5 жыл бұрын
Christian McClaine this isn’t toc policy, so no.
@carebkim8558
5 жыл бұрын
Its just public forum
@researchnyc
5 жыл бұрын
@@carebkim8558 Its also Nats finals, so you wouldn't expect that.
@carebkim8558
5 жыл бұрын
@@researchnyc facts. They dont want to portray debate like that
@liamwebb8918
4 жыл бұрын
This is PF what is spreading
baffles me that most debate categories don't spread lol #policygang
@auroranicol
4 жыл бұрын
FELT!!!!! I watched my friends in finals at a normal tournament in LD and it was so slow... i couldnt
@jasminerodriguez9029
4 жыл бұрын
In my school every format spread unless the debaters don’t have the ability
@rockagold3819
4 жыл бұрын
omg, imagine being able to communicate normally to an average audience, couldn't relate!!!!!!!!!!!
@neospacedout
4 жыл бұрын
@@rockagold3819 can't tell if you're a policy kid or making fun of policy kids but either way. mood
@rockagold3819
4 жыл бұрын
@@neospacedout yes
Why don't people spread in national finals rounds?
@auroranicol
4 жыл бұрын
right??
@Moonmerism
4 жыл бұрын
@@drdefecation but it wins
@Moonmerism
4 жыл бұрын
@Ethan Penguin competitive debate and real life aren't the same
@despairrepaircoalition
4 жыл бұрын
@Ethan Penguin but then you don't win soo like
@smithyj6552
4 ай бұрын
The sponsors would be freaked out if they spread in finals.
this video is my bible
#ShengMENGYEEt
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