LA-2As and 1176s are so popular that they are even making hardware versions now!

@justice6480

Ай бұрын

Booooo plugins😂

@kleenbeats

Ай бұрын

Those original hardware iterations were merely clones of the vintage LA-1A and 1175 classics, largely used on many golden era recording classics!

@stayinspired2027

Ай бұрын

yes the hardware ones are much better, Even the ART PRO VLA is a lot better than any plugin.

@scotteepunk

Ай бұрын

I know. It's crazy

@daynemin

Ай бұрын

what are these metal boxes?

Seems like UAD are in rapid decline and are following Waves' business model: 1. Subscription 2. Permanent sale 3. Constant spam 4. Reuse old code and sell it as a new plugin 5. Get KZreadrs to say stuff like "It's a very faithful 1:1 recreation" Stand strong and fight your GAS people!

@audionerdlilcuz

Ай бұрын

Period.

@xpowerchord12088

Ай бұрын

You do understand that Universal Audio is the hardware company who made the actual 6176' and make the real LA2A's? So when he says faithful, literally they can do it. They have been around for decades and their hardware is fantastic. UAD is the name for their DSP plugins. DSP is in rapid decline, so they are offering more options for people to own them. You can buy the actually plugins to keep you do know that right? Subscription is just another option. Great American company, just seems you don't know much about them.

@michaelwirth6843

Ай бұрын

Or they have understood it´s impossible these days to sale plugins for 250 dollars a piece.

@maxtrone539

Ай бұрын

@@xpowerchord12088 hardware is legendary but the plugins aren't. they used to be very good but better options started popping up 10 years ago. there are a million 76 & 2a plugins now & UAD's are somewhere in the middle in terms of quality, hence all the gimmicky marketing

Ай бұрын

@@xpowerchord12088 It's not a faithful 1:1 recreation of anything - there is no hardware version. It's three existing UAD plugins (610B, 1176, LA2A) wrapped in one plugin with a HPF, variable Ω and a new GUI. This required minimal effort on UAD's part, adds little value for UAD Spark customers, and is obviously just a Waves-style cash grab!

For UAD Apollo owners this plug-in can be inserted as Unison channel strip. This is in essence is like having the hardware inline prior to the interface. The beauty of this is the low latency real time processing prior to hitting the DAW. At about $100 it is a lot cheaper than the real deal bringing a great emulation to the smaller studio. To me this is the real advantage.

@onomatopoeidia

17 күн бұрын

Yeah but who really cares because there are much nicer preamps like the V76 or any of the Neves or the API so why would you ever want this? I had the hardware and that was also only my 3rd choice unless I’d run out of pre-amps. The Sebatron slays it, handmade and cheaper.

@jdc6681

14 күн бұрын

This being a channel strip also allows one with an Apollo to track pre-into-compressor via the Unison preamp, which cannot easily be accomplished otherwise.

@onomatopoeidia

13 күн бұрын

@@jdc6681 have to be careful though because you can’t undo it after if it’s the wrong pre. Much safer to make colour choices post because if you wreck it at the source, it’s all over.

They didn’t even include the digital screws to mount the plugin’s rack ears to your display.

@jamisonfrench

Ай бұрын

Those are the extra add-on’s.. 2.0 update. 😆

@DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579

Ай бұрын

Can't possibly use it till you mount it to the virtual rack plug-in.

I want an in-depth video on impedance and how it affects the sound of recordings. Really in-depth. That's something I want to learn more about, but don't want to do the hard work for (because I don't NEED it, I just want it).

I’m on a quest of collecting every 1176 plugin out there!!

This is a baffling addition to the UAD cannon. I mean most long term owners like me already have the preamps, the 1176 and the LA2As so… whats this for? I mean the original 6176 hardware was basically a budget friendly version of 610 pre and a similar lesser version of either la2a or 1176. Pretty uninteresting.

@TeslaOsiris

Ай бұрын

Technically though…Spark subscribers (like me) haven’t had access to a 610 preamp natively and without an Apollo until this plugin. So this is something new for not-long term owners.

@kevinlong4657

Ай бұрын

UAD has made a bunch of baffling moves the last few years. I still love my Apollo and handful of plugins but dang.

@dm1943

Ай бұрын

One approach: The ability to have the Pre and Compressor in a single Unison slot is unique including impedance management. Set in LA-2a Mode so the pre can drive the optical compressor and add a 1176 as a post Unison insert to catch the hot transients and record with almost no latency. A classic multi thousand dollar hardware vocal recording set up used by the best can available to the home / indie studio. Try that in a DAW and a "red box" interface.

New LA-6176 offers Hi z , that 610 plugins do not. Bass and E GTRs can now track thru unison. Also for the first time, 2 unison plugins run at the same time. So you never lose "the feel" of unison when adding the 1176 or la2a. My loyalty offer from UAD was $49, There is more definition of tone and very noticeable dynamics "the feel" when playing thru unison. * adding any plugin, after a unison plugin in the recording chain, "kills the feel"* IMO this HI z Unison feature is overall better playing and sounding than existing versions of UAD 610's. 1176 and LA2A. Unless you have tried unison plugins, thru an Apollo, nothing I mentioned will make any sense. Hope this helps someone.

@dm1943

Ай бұрын

Well said. I find it unfortunate that this review did not help people understand the value of this plug-in. It’s interesting that unison was not even mentioned even though it is an incredibly powerful function on the UAD platform.

These units are fantastic for tracking vocals and instruments - I own the hardware of both the 1176 and the LA610 and they are beautiful for capturing that velvety tube sound during the recording/tracking phase. Never thought of using them on a stereo 2-track mix.

@inspyremusicnl5826

Ай бұрын

Yeah he should test vocals or instruments i dont get the stereo 2 track thing

@GCMusic-oq4ip

Ай бұрын

I agree i have the hardware also and never use it on the stereo 2 track mix. My go to for vocals when recording and love it on guitar also

A few things: this is usually used as a vocal channel strip! That might be best test case. Second, it might be helpful to read the manual we steps on setting it up. Good idea to make sure the compressor is in bypass when you’re setting your input gain. Last, the impedance really is the first gain stage. There are guidelines for what impedance is correct based on what mic you’re using (large diaphragm condensers usually best for 2k ohm iirc), but manual ultimately does concur that ‘different impedance = different sound)

@G_handle

Ай бұрын

RTFM!? A KZreadr? They can't read! They're too busy impersonating audio engineers to ever be one.

@fescolfaro

Ай бұрын

Mics sound radically different in 2k or 500ohms in the hardware unit. It's a question whether you want lean, more pushed high-mids, or thicker low-end, irrespective of all mic model (2kOhm is always gritty, 500Ohm is always mellow). Depends on what suits the material.

@G_handle

Ай бұрын

@fescolfaro Always? Don't Condensers and Dynamics behave differently?

An LA2A, AND an 1176 in a SINGLE UNISON SLOT. And it’s £50 right now. What’s not to like??!

Regardless of the UA plug in, when will your Behringer 369 KT review come ? 😁🥳

@jamesbennettmusic2154

Ай бұрын

I’m only interested if Slate do a plugin recreation of it

Yup, UAD blew it again. Their other plugin which they launched before this one was that weird tape thing. I wasn't even bothered to test it. I would like to see stuff like ATR etc. Not another 1176 / LA2A comp. It's not even slightly tempting for me. I won't bother to demo it :)

@XVIIIPRO

Ай бұрын

sadly i really have to agree, that verve tape thing is honestly comical for a professional tool, infact it should be/remain free forever, even the ‘full’ version

I almost exclusively use UAD plugins for tracking, so I'm excited to try the LA-6176 in the Unison slot on my UA interface. Regardless of Unison usage, I wish you'd demonstrated it on individual tracks - personally I would never use a preamp on my master output.

@michaelwirth6843

Ай бұрын

You should test other and much better plugins.

I have a 610mk2 (and probably will buy a second at some point in time). If I am recording and want the sound, I'll use the preamp/EQ/comp, if I haven't recorded and want the sound I'll do a loopback. Love it on bass and vocals (when it's fitting). I also have all the 76s and 2As one can have in plugin, and a couple in hardware as well. Don't know why I could want the plug...

I used to have the LA-610 preamp. It was awesome for vocal and bass! Not sure about the plugin, but will probably demo it though out of curiosity.

I personally have been waiting for the plug-in! For me, it’s personally my favorite first step in a vocal chain. I use the voxbox right now but don’t like the option compressor going in - it’s just a little too muffled for me. The 610 pre into an 1176 w just a little eq is a great first step for vocals for me. Just providing feedback that at least some people were waiting for this!

A friend of mine has a hardware unit and I loved it on the verge of distortion. I've used it on bass with a Summit comp BEFORE the input (in the FX loop of my ampeg), or for warm vocals.

I’ve got the real 610 at the studio and it is sweet, pretty sweet and usable all around, gonna love having this to apply to sources i didn’t record myself

Hello. The Kultrum Audio you have back there is manufactured in my country, Argentina. Have you put it to the test?

I wanna say a big THANK YOU and also thanks to Universal Audio for wasting my time ♥ Maybe the next must-have gadget will be an UA invisible plugin which will have absolutely no effect on your sound, bundled with a analog knife to destroy your speakers for more crunchy dirt in the sound. However, and that is not a question at all, this thing is an WONDERFUL outrage-gear! 😃 and by the way, i'll pay you double for mastering in the future if you don't use this plugin on my tracks! 😃

FYI Wytse, plugins adopt auto gain behaviour by default when run within Softube Console 1 (can also be disabled manually)., so the shift layer for make up gain is less of an issue. Also this plugin is of most value when using unison when committing on tracking using a UAD interface, as can now add preamp and comp in the unison slot, NOT as a native plug.

I think this is more useful for people running apollo rigs, wanting to use the plugins in real time to track I'd assume. If you're using this just for a color box, like you could any other plugin, I'd see the redundancy of it?

@Ewoof

Ай бұрын

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. I have also only seen people use it hardware for tracking.

I never loved the 1176 that was in the UA 6176 but maybe that was just because I used that unit earlier in my recording career and I didn’t know how to dial it in perfectly yet. I did absolutely love the 610 pre for vocals and bass though

@norisan1979

Ай бұрын

The 1176 included in LA-6176 is a reduced cost version, unlike the standalone reissue UA1176LN. In particular, the 1176 included in the LA-6176 has a different input transformer (Cinemag CM-3303), so its sound is different from the standalone reissue UA1176LN (Magnetika O12).

One thing I hope that changes with the softube controller is having a preference to change some of the shift functions around. I’m enjoying the mkiii, but small customizations would have great benefits. But I also don’t program so there is probably some sorta reason it can’t be changed

I have this hardware since forever and still love it! Should do a comparison..

@Mike_Benz_

Ай бұрын

YES

To me preamps are to get the audio in the box, treating a cheap preamp recording with a preamp plugins can't quite make it for me.. ;)

hopefully the labeling on the front panel of the plugin will not come off like on the hardware

This is dope! And I say that as an 6176 owner

As I review the comments, I’m rather surprised at the level of hate for this plug-in. Other reviews comment on the fact that the UAD emulation of the Fairchild compressor is amazing because nobody will ever be able to afford one… This plug-in emulates about €6000 worth of classic hardware ( LA-6176, LA-610, 1176LN, LA-2A, 610 ) for $100. Many people are challenged when trying to work with dynamic microphones and require additional in-line preamps, this could help solve that issue (Gain before Level). Add the ability to change the physical impedance with Unison is a powerful feature when working with different microphone types. The ability to switch between two different types of compressors and record at near zero latency is incredibly useful for tracking especially with vocals. I normally find Wytse’s reviews balanced and informative, but I feel this one did not properly evaluate the product. Not every plugin is for every user but I feel this is a very high value plug in the hands of someone who understand its power when combined with the Apollo platform. PS, I have no affiliation with UA whatsoever.

dunno sound was pretty good from ur demo. I think in c1 it would have auto makeup gain cuz all the comps have makeup gain in c1

I have the hardware unit, and also the 610 preamp as well and kinda nobody knows for sure which the gain comes first and level later or the way round. Also have al LA610mk2 hardware unit. It's a little bit frustrating having to switch to meter on pre-amp mode and get the proper gain stage in and out bypassing the comp, then adding the comp and having your level again messed with the output gain, and peak reduction mode as well. Specially in situations when you need to remind the singer ever other second that he or she needs to sing for reals cos he won't understand you're trying to get things to work. Always using the PAD switch on when tracking because it tends to hit the preamp way above 0VU, and it looks like it does more than just reducing the signal by -15dB. Anyone who knows how the preamp really works, throw your theories here, cos it feel like solving the JFK thing. If you really know what you are doing and how the song is gonna be, you can EQ the on the way in. Just remember that it works on the overall voltage, not just the sound, so the meter reacts differently.

We need another LA2A... well, CL1B to be exact. I would love to see a review/comparison between the softube and the new Kiive

Noticed this on the update app and yeah I can't get it yet

please test the unison preamps. I use them a lot and like them.

My bad compressor - just realized you did have compressor in bypass when you set input gain

Everything worth mentioning comes through on KZread, unless content creators are not respecting the Headroom needed for clean conversion (I'd be shocked if you didn't). Don't you worry! The most sublte of audible saturation can be heard, provided the listening system enables it. KZread, believe it or not, is probably the strongest link in the chain. The differences of what you hear and your viewers hear is mainly due to the differences in room, speakers, headphones, ears, and minds. All of these points affect the listening experience 100 times more, than the very, very clean conversion. And yes, I will repeat this indefinitely until you stop saying "I don't know if that comes through on KZread".

@sparella

Ай бұрын

Preach it!

i have the Rack Mount Hardware Unit and i don't like it to me it is to noisy i have power conditioners ground loop conditioners new good quality cables the noise floor is still to noisy for me i Bought a warm audio wa 73 and worm audio wa 1b and they sound grate compared

@mirkomarkovic3438

Ай бұрын

Yeah they're shit

Around 20 years ago when the first 6176 and LA-610 hardware came out, the compression sections were slated for their sound quality, build quality and aesthetic on the forums. I tried very hard to like my LA-610 but there were so many better channel strip options out there that it was never worth it. You can't tell me that UA have simulated those circuits rather than implementing their actual real LA-2A or 1176 within the circuit into their new plugin, can you? I really do like their 610 hardware but there's been a unison offering for that for years. It just can't be that they've recreated their inferior circuits into a channel strip plugin worth $300 when you can buy their emulated 1176 and LA-2A bundles for around $39 each right now. What is going on?!

It's a weird choice for a plugin. I guess the use case is people don't want to chain multiple UA plugins together on their unison slots. Don't think it will be a bigger seller.

@mubalicious

Ай бұрын

Unison slots only can hold 1 plug-in so you wouldn't be able to chain multiple plug-ins in the Unison slot. You'd need to use a preamp plug-in in the unison slot and then use compression in the insert slots of Console.

@henrikpetersson3463

Ай бұрын

@@mubalicious It doesn't really matter though since unison is pointless after the first input stage. Putting the compressor in the insert slot instead of the unison slot is just a benefit as you can choose to record it or not.

im done with UAD

You should pull out uad 610 and 1176 and LA2A and compare

Cool! Looking forward to comparing this with the 6176 i have sat about 2 feet away from me right now... i LOVE the hardware, being able to split the unit is extremely handy as it opens it up for so many more uses.

@kelleykelley3153

Ай бұрын

I have two 6176’s and love using them in stereo and in combination with various preamps I have. But again seems redundant in plug-in form

@G_handle

Ай бұрын

Why?

I used this the other and its a bit crispy when pushed.

Can we please get a proper in-depth test WITH the impedance ... a simple Apollo twin X will do... Unison and the zero latency are what make UAD DSP make stand out. By the way , the idea of having an all in on one recording channel strip is great... It's like having a simpler VoxBox I agree they should have a one button load option for Console 1 channel strip..right now you have to assemble that by loading the pre amp, EQ and compressor separately and THEN save your own custom channel strip. So, yes it already works in Console 1

Universal audio is doing its best to milk our pockets before people get wise on what they’re doing, where’s the native SSL channel strip, putting out those fuck ass saturation tools and this compressor isn’t what the community wants.

whats the difference between using this and a 610 plugin and and 1176 plugin?

@mirkomarkovic3438

Ай бұрын

If it's as faithful as he says, it's more shit!

@RokSivante

Ай бұрын

Basically it’s the two in one with a different UI :-/

@campar1043

Ай бұрын

@@RokSivante seems redundant

@RokSivante

Ай бұрын

@@campar1043 I concur. As it seems MANY others do as well.

@Yourweakminds

Ай бұрын

Both in a SINGLE unison slot.

Why emulating copies of analog gear?

I need another 1176! Cause I don’t want to use Waves anymore.

Personally I think it’s great that they modeled these. Amazing sounding units imo. I believe the La610 compressor section sounds better than a LA2A. Not many agree with me but generally they haven’t used the hardware. Well done UA.

@noobker

Ай бұрын

I am 100% with you. Always found the compression on the 610 section super smooth and crunchy

@kevinlong4657

Ай бұрын

They've had the 610, La-2a and 1176, multiple versions of all, forever. They are just repacking old crap.

Already bought their Fairchild, my first standalone compressor vst purchase, I know it'll be my last, for all the best reasons.

aha... and what is this song called?

"Another color" is really a great way to think about plugins. How much do you need to add that slightly different hue to your palette? That's one question. But another question is, how much are you willing to pay to add another tube of paint? For the record, a useful size tube of acrylic paint may run you anywhere from 5-20 dollars, depending on color and quality and quantity. Since software offers unlimited quantity, you're now just wondering about color and quality, which are both subjective. Nevertheless, a double-digit pricetag for such a product MIGHT be worth it for you, or it might not, but the pricetag itself is in line with other artistic and creative tools. Make the decision for yourself.

I think when people say you have the “hardware version”-they are acknowledging that you have the original version, not a copycat of the software version.

I own a lot of UAD stuff and like most of it. But I wouldn't bother testing this, let alone pay money for it. Must be other people they built this for, with reasons unknown to me ...

haha love the music!

sorry, I don't understand your test. no one uses this equipment on a mix bus. It’s like judging the ability of a fish to climb a tree. There's really nothing to see here.

@Clarkish

Ай бұрын

I agree, would be good to hear from Wytse if there is a reason he chose this program material - does not seem a great test for the most common, typical usages of these models.

@clarenceoveur9497

Ай бұрын

"no one uses yadda yadda" well, he does. And so do a bunch of pros. There are no rules, stop. Your point is?

@DanielGuillaud

Ай бұрын

@@clarenceoveur9497 I say that you know nothing about this hardware mono unit. Only the compressor can be linked in stereo to another. But indeed, it can be cool to use in parallel compression . But for having tested this as a mix buss (there are no rules). It is very very disappointing. I would have a test that shows the strong points of this unit and not its ability to do what it is not supposed to do. That is my point of view. Have a great weekend, very friendly

@Clarkish

Ай бұрын

@@clarenceoveur9497the point is there’s could be more useful and illustrative demos using program material that is more aligned with the TYPICAL hero uses of these devices - or if there is a reason this material has been used then maybe we can learn from this.

It's definitly time for a LA3A ;-)

It would be nice if that light in the center changed color based on the saturation level. I mean, c'mon have some fun with it!

I know you are trying to say "no" nowadays... but would you do a review on the Console-1... since you finally received it? ;-)

Correction: nothing to SEA here

"Making this video wasn't the best business decision"; maybe that depends on whether you are thinking short-term, or long-term!

Recreational Oil.

Agreed

Nothing to see here … watched it anyway

I'll stick with my SOLO 610 this thing sounds disappointing in comparison like most plugins

Comment for da algorithm Streak count: 243 Almost missed this video cause there's nothing to see there.

Ahaha very accurate title for the video. Exactly how I felt

NO AUTO GAIN?! Yes: forget the rack ears!

There are never enough LA-2As, although I have to say I feel like the LA-3A gets too little love from the community.

“New”

Not much effort...slap a new interface on their processing API, call it a different name.

@Kynect2Hymn

Ай бұрын

That’s not what an API is.

@tlawhon

Ай бұрын

@@Kynect2Hymn Oh .. guess my 35 years of software development work didn't serve to know that.

@Kynect2Hymn

Ай бұрын

@@tlawhon I guess not

@tlawhon

Ай бұрын

@@Kynect2Hymn So, why don't you tell us what an API is?

@kevinlong4657

Ай бұрын

@@tlawhon He probably thinks a REST API is the only kind of API.

I think UA has some of the best sounding stuff, but not all of their plugins are native, they are overpriced for that little bit of quality difference, (and I do mean 'atoms" better), also it's like you say, nothing new. It's all the same junk more or less. Good Video Wytse

I would like to see you do some more reasonable settings, and actually give it time to hear it. In a lot of your videos you just move the knobs extremely fast in a kind of ''I don't care manner'' Listen to it for like 5 seconds. You just seem really impatient when messing with it. I try not to make it sound like a hate comment. Just my thoughts on what you could do better, to give the plugins a chance. And therefor giving the viewer a better idea of the sonics. Kind Regards

WHAT? You're saying that plugins are modeled from hardware? Dude. That's like saying that digital fries came after the potato. pffft

I guess the desirability (and necessity) of the plugin will come down to people that see the 1176 or LA2A as being a key area of their production sound. They will strive for that ever accumulating extra 1%, and it could be that this plugin will come out top in their local face-offs, replacing their other 1176/LA2A vsts. There may be many options out there, but if this is the best one then there is a market. $300 better than others.. In addition, no doubt there will be people that throw a trial of this onto their mix, get a real buzz from the compression and (unintended) extra volume(!), and decide that that they can’t live without that sound being on the end of their plugin chain :-)

WYTSE WYTSE WYTSE Please review Wavegrove HCL Varis! Pretty please! 🥺

Not something I will buy, period! What I really want, is a multi band gate. Even with AI in it. Gates are so poorly represented in plugins.

I totally wonder how much UA's plugins are actually modeling the orig piece of gear, is it just tacking some distortion onto the wave & how much if any does the sound wave affect the harmonics and is it all just a static algorithm

I 100% agree with you that this plugin wasn't something we were missing or hoping for.

I don't really understand Plugin channel-strips. For me the howl idea of a channel strip is the analog circuit, using the tubes or better the output transformers. Being able to use EQ on the way in and have a compressor for a safety net to not clip the converters. Thanks for waisting my time 🤣

Its a fancy distortion plugin.. more snake oil

We don't need more versions. Better would be plungins that are really useful. It's the same like tb303 or 808 and 909.. Why sell stuff that was already old when I was young? It doesn't sound new and not fresh and not like modern stuff. Always selling old sound in new cloths always same shit. But yes it's not bad as it could be but it would be better create dope great sound more affordable. Selling stuff in price range of a car makes it worse. Yes quality need price but if we get down to the gear, a compressor at 5000 or more doesn't make sense anymore. Becourse only a few can hear the difference and the more of quality is mostly a very little difference to hear today. It's not 1980 we're 2024 and that's my point of view.

sounds so digital...LOL....smh....UAD smh

Get rid of your logo intro unnecessary at this point

this plugin is disgusting.... i m so off beacuse i am an uad customer

it sounds HORRIBLE

Redundant. Not impressed with this at all.