I wanted this video to be a bit more general than just RE4, but I made a follow up video showing more details about the crashing in RE4, best ways to fix it, more details on what the texture settings mean and how they work, etc: kzread.info/dash/bejne/apqBpJhrdpzFZ6w.html

@tommypearson9260

Жыл бұрын

I agreed with this game not needing features like RT or DLSS turned on it's amazing to me that people want to 1080p-1440p this game still runs over 160fps respectively. I tried to say this in a live stream but the person didn't understand, I was only talking about this specific user case RE4 not every game on the planet lol.........

@chun1324

Жыл бұрын

Capcom be like: You could lower the setting to use less vram, you can always fix the issue with a 4090 🎉

@VMaster1997

Жыл бұрын

I think also that developers are really lazy to optimize there game because i cant really tell if a game looks better with more v ram needed than a game from 4 years ago with less v ram needed i think they can do a lot with optimization on the vram side

@alephnole7009

Жыл бұрын

Try turning Ray tracing off and shadow quality down. Then push the texture quality up and see how that works because DF testing showed it's RT that's the issue. Something breaks with RT and texture quality above 4Gb at the same time. They also mention shadows effecting the crashes.

@alephnole7009

Жыл бұрын

@@ConfinedSpiral-xy8qz yeah its the ray tracing thats actually causing crashes. people can go into the red on vram without it and not have any issues.

The fact that they give 12gb to the 3060 instead of 3070, 3070ti or 3080 is mind blowing.

@PeterPauls

Жыл бұрын

Original RTX 3060 has 192 bit memory bus, each memory module use 32 bit so 192/32 = 6, you can put 6 moduls, nVidia decided to go with 6x2GB modules because 6GB would have been too less. And RTX 3060 ti, 3070, 3070 ti have 256 bit memory bus which means 256/32 = 8, so they just went with 8x1GB modules and here were the biggest mistake IMO, they should have been put 2GB modules on that card, so the 3060 ti, 3070 and 3070 ti would have been 16GB cards. About RTX 3080 which has 320 bit wide memory bus, 320/32 = 10, so they went with 10GB but because they released the RTX 3080 ti with 384 bit bus which 384/32 = 12, they went with 12GB. They Fd up their lineup, it should have been RTX 3090 24GB, RTX 3080 20GB, RTX 3070 ti, 3070, 3060 ti with 16GB and RTX 3060 with 12GB and RTX 3050 with 8GB. I hope my logic is understandable even though English is not my best.

@od1sseas663

Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPauls Stop with the excuses. We know how it works with the bus thing. Just change the bus and put 12Gigs of VRAM or just make it 16.

@DanielOfRussia

Жыл бұрын

@@od1sseas663 You do realize changing the bus impacts the performance as memory bandwidth either gets higher or lower?

@od1sseas663

Жыл бұрын

@ロシアのダニエル That's why I said "just put 16Gigs". Same bus.

@od1sseas663

Жыл бұрын

@Blue Yeah, that's why I said "or just put 16Gigs".

Well, I have a 3070, and Nvidia is doing their best to make sure my next upgrade is to AMD.

@83Bongo

Жыл бұрын

You only have yourself to blame. You knew the card had 8gb when you bought it.

@Mike0200000000

Жыл бұрын

My 3070 handles all games perfectly, along with fhd and qhd. If I have to lower the textures from ultra to high, it runs great. Ray tracing and dlss make for nicer graphics and the card is better than the 6700xt

@Hypershell

Жыл бұрын

@@83Bongo Yes, I did. I'm happy with it, I'm just saying it's something to think about in the future. I'm more a jack-of-all-trades user than a hardcore gamer, so Nvidia having the better feature set was a draw (especially that NVENC encoder). But AMD is getting better and Nvidia is habitually going nuts with the power draw lately, so I didn't expect to be sticking to one brand forever.

@verneeiro

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike0200000000 Well the 6700 XT can run this at 1440p and Max settings + RT at over 60 FPS and FSR 2.1 does good look good indeed. 3070 < 6700 XT.

@Steel0079

Жыл бұрын

Same, me too. Once I got 3070, I started running every game at max. The games that give me problem are the ones needing more VRAM. Sad part is that these games run out of VRAM, at 1080p. FFS.

I tried telling people early on that this was going to be an issue very soon. This is part of the reason why I'm on AMD. My 6800XT has 16GB of VRAM.

@agusvelozo3189

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking abt buying a 6800, what model did u buy? I'm thinking abt buying the phantom gaming.

@Bestgameplayer10

Жыл бұрын

@@agusvelozo3189 I just have the AMD Radeon (the reference model). I didn’t get an AIB this time around.

@agusvelozo3189

Жыл бұрын

@@Bestgameplayer10 and is the performance good?

@Bestgameplayer10

Жыл бұрын

@@agusvelozo3189 I suppose so. I haven’t looked into the performance of the other brand 6800XTs to know for comparison but I ain’t had no performance issues.

@agusvelozo3189

Жыл бұрын

@@Bestgameplayer10 nice, and drivers wise did u have any problem?

NVidia knows very well what they are doing by offering GPUs with such low vram. It's a good way to force people to upgrade and spend more money, much sooner.

@AAjax

Жыл бұрын

Entirely this. As Jensen said, Moore's Law is dead, so how else is Nvidia going to get everybody on-board for a 50 series upgrade? Especially since CPUs are now bottle-necking the top end GPUs.

@LarsH0NEYtoast

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and it worked lol Played the demo with my 3060Ti and it struggled to maintain 1440p 60fps in the demanding areas. So I ended up feeling compelled to upgrade. I got a 4070ti and now I'm running the game at 1440P 120FPS with even higher textures. To think there is rumors of the new 4060 still coming out with 8G vram is ridiculous

@Toxicin2

Жыл бұрын

@@LarsH0NEYtoast News in, gamers get played and even paying for it. Thats simping my son.

@Hombremaniac

Жыл бұрын

It's actually ingenious move from Nvidia. You manufacture quite potent GPUs, but you gimp them with not enough of VRAM. Nvidia still sold those for extra high prices (and saved costs on VRAM) and used DLSS as a sorts of excuse for low VRAM and demanding Ray Traycing. They seem to continue with this trend since 4070ti has measly 12GB and in order to produce good FPS with Ray Traycing on, you are yet again forced to use DLSS.

@gameordeath9464

Жыл бұрын

@@LarsH0NEYtoast 4060 rumored to even have 8GB should just be a shame to Nvidia, AMD is out here with the 6700/50XT at in 10GB non XT and 12GB XT is just crazy to me. I surely hope they don't actually give it 8GB as it will definitely be out of the "trend" soon with these new games coming out being very high demand. Im just glad I game on my AMD card PC and keep my NVIDIA for Adobe Suite creator stuff. It's just so dumb and they know people will still buy it because its just NVIDIA. I've seen people on reddit talk about how their 3080(ti) with 10GB non ti and 12GB ti of VRAM are struggling.

NVIDIA: “We have ray tracing , path tracing , DLSS 3.0 but you need to pay 1200 dollars for it… Consumers: “Can we have high quality textures too ?” Nvidia: “No, you need to pay at least 1500 bucks for that” Consumer:”But I don’t need all this Ray tracing stuff “ Nvidia:” I don’t care you are having it”

@arfianwismiga5912

Жыл бұрын

that's why Nvidia give you DLSS

@Mike80528

Жыл бұрын

Nvidia: "And tons of AI cores that you also don't really need, but our profitable endeavors require."

@winj3r

Жыл бұрын

The funny thing is that RT also requires more vram. So people eventually will have to turn off RT, because of vram limitations, despite the GPU being capable of RT.

@user-wq9mw2xz3j

Жыл бұрын

not really. If you disable raytracing, it uses much less vram.

@dreamcrabjr7408

Жыл бұрын

That’s why you get a rx 6800 xt with 16gbs of vram 😎

After making a huge mistake of buying a 3GB version of GTX 1060 back in the day, I said that the first thing I'll be looking for in the next graphics card will be VRAM. Which is why I went for AMD this time around.

@happybuggy1582

10 ай бұрын

Agreed with 2gb gtx960 with tears

@Shatterfury1871

9 ай бұрын

Welcome to team RED, we have cookies, enough VRAM, raw raster and a bit worse ray tracing.

@Crazical

8 ай бұрын

​@@Shatterfury1871and the funky niche things like RSR and AFMF yeahhh

@zazoreal5536

7 ай бұрын

Gtx 1060 3gb club. I have it running in my backup PC.

@jagjot1697

7 ай бұрын

I'm in the same boat. Yet another disappointed owner of the 1060 3GB. I'm thinking of going with the RX 6750XT now

The patch is just automatically lowers the textures so that the game doesn't lags. If you pay attention in some areas the textures change.

Missed the opportunity to name the video "Not Enough VRAM, Stranger!"

@nishant5655

Жыл бұрын

🤔🤔

@maximmk6446

Жыл бұрын

Lmfao mate 😂

@rohanchooramun7288

Жыл бұрын

Good one... lmoa🤣🤣

@gamingbillyo333

Жыл бұрын

Broo Thank You Giuseppe ! Gave Me The Title Name For My Next Video ! My 4080 16 Gb Was Upgraded To A 4090 24Gb Play This With Everything Maxed Out ! Not A Proud Moment Supporting Nvidias Insane Prices Twice ! Smh

Running out of Vram is probably the saddest thing ever. Having a fast card and expensive with all the entire components in the build up to date and on point, and you have to worry about a vram meter in game........

@shadowofthenorthstar989

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@rust2156

Жыл бұрын

R9 fury flashbacks

@radeuz8831

Жыл бұрын

rx 5600 xt...

@moritzzoellner

Жыл бұрын

Sad RTX 3080 10GB noises :(

@gj5136

Жыл бұрын

😊

Definitely would love for you to do a comparison between the rtx 3080 12gb and the 6800 xt all maxed out with this game, I feel like the same thing could happen with the 3080..

While people slate Nvidia (and rightly so), a big part of this issue is the unoptimized mess that companies release just to meet deadlines. The recent Steam survey shows that the majority of people are still on 8GB or lower video RAM. Having anything less than 4K require more that 8GB ram is just poor by the devs. As is often the case, VRAM issues are fixed by patches down the line, so in most cases they are entirely avoidable. Both manufactures and game studios need to do better!

@francescobenelli2707

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe

Жыл бұрын

Two points: - If you buy an Nvidia GPU, suck it. No seriously, if you buy one and then complain that you are "forced" to upgrade to a new overpriced Nvidia GPU, you absolutely deserve it, sucker. - I do agree that Nvidia has always skimped on VRAM, but I also don't think it is that serious. Everyone references The Last of Us Part I regarding that VRAM topic. That's basically the only big example and The Last of Us Part I is an awfully unoptimized PC port. Shader caching would lower the VRAM need by a lot. I don't want to play that game, so I don't f***** care either way.

@remmykun8315

Жыл бұрын

The real problem is that consoles are and have always been a priority in the gaming industry. And since they are; you as a PC gamer always should pay attention to how those consoles are made in order to decide which PC parts you should choose. PS5 and Xbox Series X have 8 CPU cores and 16 gigs of unified memory. So, if a company like nvidia releases a new product with just 8 gigs of vram, they know it won’t age well. And sometimes (depending on price or the fact that we cannot wait for whatever reason) they force you to buy a product with clear planned obsolescence. But if you have the option to skip the generation, go with the competition or ultimately buy the “halo” product (24 gigs) then maybe you should do it based on the new consoles’ features that tells you how the games are going to be… sooner than later.

@waifuhunter9709

Жыл бұрын

@@remmykun8315 really good mindset I will remeber your advice for next purchase

@noctus9731

Жыл бұрын

RE4R is greatly optimized and the 8GB still can't handle it mate.

I skipped last generation because the 3070 only had 8gb of VRAM. I surpass 8gb VRAM in A LOT of titles. I ended up picking up the 7900XT, and it has been fantastic. Middle finger to you Nvidia!

@Hombremaniac

Жыл бұрын

Some folks (me included) just recently grabbed RX6800XT for good price and are going to ignore current gen. Also feasible solution and one more budgetwise I guess, since previously we had covid/crypto inflated prices and only now they are slowly getting down.

@alsoyes3287

Жыл бұрын

How are the temps and the power draw? I was considering 7900xt, but it seems to have power draw issues with multiple monitors, draining 90w when idle at times.

@likeagrape57

Жыл бұрын

I got a 3070 in early 2021 but ended up upgrading to a 7900xt just recently because I was tired of vram constraints. You made a good choice skipping the 3070

@oxfordsparky

Жыл бұрын

7900XT is such garbage value, literally bought the worst option.

@likeagrape57

Жыл бұрын

@@oxfordsparky that's true. But at least it's garbage value that should last a while.

Nvidia has a history of this. Recall that the 780 Ti launched for $700 at the same time as the PS4 & XB1. While that card is substantially more powerful than the 8th gen consoles, it didn't have the VRAM to keep up. In 2013/2014, developers were still developing games for cross gen platforms, which meant they still were constrained by the 512MB of RAM in the 360/PS3, so the 3GB wasn't initially a problem. While most 8th gen & PC versions of games featured higher quailty textures, those earlier games could still work within a 3GB limit. But once games started being developed for the 8GB consoles exclusively, the VRAM limits on Kepler really became an issue. We're in the same boat with Ampere, and probably the "midrange" Lovelace models if rumors are to be believed. The Radeon R9 390 launched 8 years ago with 8GB of VRAM for $330. It's long past time 8GB was a thing of the past for all but display adapter tier GPU's.

@frippyfroo6064

Жыл бұрын

I upgraded to a 3070 ti from a GTX 660 lmao I have 0 complaints

@therockwizard.9687

Жыл бұрын

@@frippyfroo6064should have bought a 6800

@andersjjensen

Жыл бұрын

@@frippyfroo6064 If you're on 1080p it's not going to be a problem for the foreseeable future. If you're on 1440p you're going to have to adjust settings in mostly every new title by the end of this year. If you're on 4k using and using the highest DLSS quality to get there it's going to be the same story. If you're trying for 4k native you'll already be doing it because it lacks both the grunt and the VRAM.

@Ben256MB

Жыл бұрын

I remember when RadeonVII came out with 16GB for 699 a lot of Nvidia fan were dissing the card , but now Radeon VII is actually going to age well . 8GB VRAM GPU shouldn't cost 400+ dollars at all but Nvidia are soo selfish . I just wish AMD priced their GPU's more cheaper and they would have a big market share .

@od13166

Жыл бұрын

Back then people calling R9 290x had 4gb not that issue. But due to 780ti missing several direct feature its horribly aged

Some folks on the internet bragged about small vram pool on ampere rtx cards, but 95% of gamers claimed 8 gigs was enough, and thought that they were hating. Now with developers adapting to 9th generation consoles, it seems 8 gigs is in fact not that future proof as we had assumed.

@infini_ryu9461

5 ай бұрын

Lol. Yeah. Not only are games so unoptimized for PC, the graphics cards don't have enough VRAM anymore. I mean, I have a 4090, so it's never gonna be a problem, but you shouldn't need that to play a game your graphics card could run normally if allowed to. Honestly, I think people are taking too much advice from 720p/1080p high fps competitive gamers. We all know to get beautiful games you're gonna want way more VRAM. 12GB will not be enough very soon.

The texture setting at 1:30 confuses me, as you lowered the setting but the texture quality still remains at High. It seems the setting only affects the memory pool to load textures for GPU to fetch, which is faster than releasing from storage drive. I would guess the setting doesn't change the resolution of textures, however reduce the number of models loaded in the scene, including those outside screen space. Ray tracing fidelity will suffer most from lowering such setting.

The game runs perfectly fine on my rx6800 with 16GB VRAM @ 1440p. I chose 6800 over 3070(ti) because of VRAM. 4060(ti) will be DoA with 8GB VRAM.

@theelectricprince8231

Жыл бұрын

Nvidia are delusional if they think they are apple

@muresanandrei7565

Жыл бұрын

why 1440p I have the same card and I do 4k full max ray tracing fine 60fps. 1440p looks shit once you play 4k.

@atnfn

Жыл бұрын

@@muresanandrei7565 Maybe he doesn't have a 4k monitor, I don't. I figure in fact most people don't.

@xiyax6241

Жыл бұрын

yeee bro same lotta games i play use up too 10/12gb of vram. amd over nvidia for gpu right now

@xiyax6241

Жыл бұрын

@@muresanandrei7565 ye man have same card its insane no limitations like nvidia 8gb cards

My 6950XT is crushing this game in 1440p. Mostly sits at 100-130FPS on Max settings RT ON. I'm at Chapter 5 now and the heavy rain makes it dip down to 80+fps. Still, awesome experience with settings maxed out. Not a single crash so far.

@tomhanke7703

Жыл бұрын

yes would you play in 4k you would have crashe like me because its then uses sometimes more than 16 gb vram

@josh4434

Жыл бұрын

@Tom Hanke that sucks. My 5800X3D/6950XT system is set up for 1440p. The highest I've seen it hit is 14GBs in a couple of games

@garyb7193

Жыл бұрын

@@tomhanke7703 Almost everything in life come with compromise and limitations. He says he's gaming at 1440p 120fps with RT. I say he's gained (in playability) more than what he's lost. I make the same choice, which is why I picked a used RX 6800xt 16Gb for $425.

@DaddyHensei

Жыл бұрын

4k is not all that worth it anyways. Monitors are over priced for a decent refresh rate. Meanwhile 1440p you can get a nice one for way cheaper and still look pretty amazing. Josh hit the jack pot. Ya can confirm that the 6950xt actually can do RT pretty well at 1440p. I run a 6950xt and a 7700x at 1440p. My gaming experience has been nothing but butter smooth with ultra settings across every game I've thrown at it. Callisto, Deadspace, Cyberpunk, heck even hogwarts (Don't recommend rt though, not because fps but because the reflections will blind you. Hogwarts simply isn't made for rt haha) All of those games have been wonderful for me at 1440p

@tomhanke7703

Жыл бұрын

@@DaddyHensei well i cant even play in 2 k anymore its to unsharp and doesnt Look very Good in my opinion so i would rather play in 4k without Rt with all maxed instead of 2k with Rt and the money Thing is not a point for me 800€ for 4k 32 cm 144 hz 1 ms hdr Monitor is ok for the price

About a year ago I bought a 3060 12gb because i thought 8 gigs of vram wouldn't be future proof and here we are.

@christopherbrewer2154

Жыл бұрын

me too man

@verrat3219

Жыл бұрын

3060 has decent vram but its a bad card due to its performance. so eventho its more future proof than 8gb vram, the cards performance itself is gunna be low on taxing games like rd4 remake. the good thing is atleast it will still be playable, unlike the 3070 where its unplayable/crashing.

@aapknaap

Жыл бұрын

The 3060 aint that bad. Never had performance issues so far

@dinakshow924

Жыл бұрын

@@aapknaap People draw their conclusions. from 120fps and others at 60fps... for example my GPU is an RX 6800 and the box says "4k gaming" and I said "WTF 4K" this gpu runs games at 4k but at an average of 60fps. but for 144fps I need to play at 1080p. what I mean. is that if they say that the "RTX 3060 is a bad card" it is very likely that they say that because I do not reach 144fps at 4k ..

@aapknaap

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

Did you tried uninstalling the game folder in Appdata? I recently got upgraded from 1660ti to 3080, and most of my played games crashed until someone suggested deleting the game folder in Appdata and it worked not only with one game. I didn't tried the same with RE4 demo yet.

I bought a GTX 1080 at launch and with its 8GB buffer the card was able to last me almost 5 years. Now with my 3080 I'm being VRAM limited only 2-2.5 years into its life.

@AlexanderMuresan

Жыл бұрын

I ended up going from a GTX 1080 to a 7900 xtx. The 4080 was 50% more expensive and the 4090 was double the price of the 7900 xtx. And I don't have any kind of brand loyalty. The 1080 server me incredibly well for 6 years, but I needed something to handle modern games at 1440p and 4k resolutions. Team red seemed like the obvious choice this time around.

@Azurefanger

Жыл бұрын

even the rx 6700 xt and 6800 xt have more vram and are cheaper nvidia just want people to upgrade more often with these bad optimization in the high end gpus i mean even the 3060 got 12 gb of vram why the 3070 and 3080 got less only for this reason so poeple need to buy another one

@Hippida

Жыл бұрын

Same with my Vega 64. To this day, it's main limitation is the 8 GB vram

@crimson7151

Жыл бұрын

I have a 3080 and this issue is killing me, the gpu itself is extremely powerful, with overclocking it can get really close to the 3090 and they decide to give it only 10gb of vram.

@Obie327

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderMuresan I had the same problem running 1440p with my GTX 1080, I decided to give Intel a try and switch to Team Blue. ARC A770 16 gb easily handles all my quality settings and gaming frame rates. It's a damn shame Nvidia's greed has pissed off their loyal fan base.

I think Nvidia is doing that on purpose. By adding lower vram, they force their customers to upgrade more often than they should. They are adding lots of useful features which are DLSS, Ray Tracing, Cuda cores for streaming and 3D modelling. It feels like future-proof, making you want to join in green team. But after 1-2 Years a fact hits you; Low VRAM... For example, RTX 3070 is a great card, like all in one. Great raw performance, good for 3D modelling, streaming, Better-than-competitors RTX performance. However, When you render high-poly projects in blender, RTX 3060 outperforms RTX 3070 because of the lack of VRAM RTX 3070 crashes. You try to play on high textures with RTX 3070 but it gives less performance or crash than RTX 3060 because of the VRAM. Even if it is so clear why Nvidia is doing that, Adding 2-4 GB more VRAM shouldn't be that expensive. RX 6700 XT is a more future-proof card than RTX 3070 and 3060 TI in my eyes.

@Frank-fg4jx

Жыл бұрын

It's the reason I will never buy another gpu from nvidia

@caribbaviator7058

Жыл бұрын

​@@Frank-fg4jx Same here. The RX6800 gives me way better performance than any Nvidia card I own.

@DerpDerpson

Жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head. They started this practice with the GTX 970, but it went under the radar for most people because back then it wasn't causing that much of an issue. It is a big one today when nearly all developers can't into texture compression (due to everybody and their mother using UE4 and now 5), so they just let it rip and max out VRAM allocation even when the game looks like it's from 2010.

@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe

Жыл бұрын

Two points: - If you buy an Nvidia GPU, suck it. No seriously, if you buy one and then complain that you are "forced" to upgrade to a new overpriced Nvidia GPU, you absolutely deserve it, sucker. - I do agree that Nvidia has always skimped on VRAM, but I also don't think it is that serious. Everyone references The Last of Us Part I regarding that VRAM topic. That's basically the only big example and The Last of Us Part I is an awfully unoptimized PC port. Shader caching would lower the VRAM need by a lot. I don't want to play that game, so I don't f***** care either way.

@pooriaroohie

Жыл бұрын

@@DerpDerpson they actualy started it with gtx 780 and gtx 780ti - which they both had 3 gb of vram and then they made another variation of gtx 760 that had 4gb of vram and that was the most retarded and absurd thing i ever saw.

I'm curious , can you play forkesaken on high detail on the 3070 ti? Is that enough for high detail? Is there a huge difference between high and ultra settings?

Are you sure those textures aren't just a bit blurry at all levels? I know for past games in the RE series once you set it to any level of High, then that enabled the highest quality textures, and then all you got from turning up the setting from there was a greater allocation of RAM dedicated to holding textures, which means fewer textures are swapped in and out of memory, which leads to less texture popping.

The 1070 still had 8GB, always thought Nvidia was being stingy with RAM on their newer cards.

@sofyo2bib

Жыл бұрын

but not the same bandwidth 3070 double than 1070 but still not enough hhhh

@tankdjsims

Жыл бұрын

yeaaa I just had a 1070 and upgraded to a 3070, sad that they both have the same vram. That never made sense to me when upgrading but I still went an bought a 3070 for $300

@Deernailt

Жыл бұрын

@@tankdjsims I had 1070 just upgraded to a 2080 in 2018-2019 has same 8GB VRAM with more fps after upgraded to 4090 GIGABYTE GAMING OC in 2023 so got 24GB VRAM now skipped 30 series

@tankdjsims

Жыл бұрын

@@Deernailt even though I just got this maybe two weeks ago, im really thinking about selling it and upgrading to a 40s 😩

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

Жыл бұрын

I went from 1070 to 4070ti very recently.

When the VRAM is more limiting than the performance of the card, you have an issue. I think the 3080 10GB is going to be running into the same issues here soon. If you think this is bad, you should see the RTX 3050TI trying to run anything with 4GB of VRAM. My poor laptop has to play at 1080P medium most games because of textures, not performance.

@danielowentech

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! If a card runs out of VRAM, but it is at settings that wouldn't make sense to run anyway, it isn't that big of a deal. But cards like the 3070 Ti are frustrating because it is powerful enough to max out some games but runs into its VRAM issue like we are seeing here.

@GewelReal

Жыл бұрын

3080 10GB already is an issue at 4K Also no way Nvidia made 3050 woth 4GB of VRAM bruh

@mitanashi

Жыл бұрын

@@GewelReal the 3050 ti is a laptop varient i think

@LeegallyBliindLOL

Жыл бұрын

@@GewelReal interesting claim. Used 3080 10gb since launch at 4k. Never had any issues

@lifemocker85

Жыл бұрын

Thats why they gimped gpus that youd have to buy another soon

That knocking at the end of the video freaked me out. Thought it was coming from my house at 3am!

Wow so it was vram, I was having the same problem in RE2 and the RE4 demo, hate to see it. Is this problem from the game (and probably could be patched ?) or the issue is the low vrams from the gpu ? btw I got a rtx 2060 6gb

I am very happy that I chose my 6900XT over the 3070/3080. Not only is it super power efficient, but yes, the 16GB Vram make it potentially more future proof as well.

@renoputra5219

Жыл бұрын

I sold my 6900XT over 3080 10gb, the most stupid decision ever done in my live😢

@vladimirdosen6677

Жыл бұрын

​@@renoputra5219 Lowering texture can be compensated by using dlss which is superior in image quality to fsr. I would argue ray tracing and dlss is worth it more.

@rubsfern

Жыл бұрын

Same here :)

@nicane-9966

Жыл бұрын

​@@vladimirdosen6677 dlss and fsr sre cheap techs that decreases your image quality. Besides the 6900xt is at 3090 level so it was already more powerfull tbw

@dampintellect

Жыл бұрын

@@vladimirdosen6677 That's all fine and good if you think so. But I would like to point out that Raytracing itself uses additional VRAM when turned on, so you would have to lower textures even further.

This is what I had with the 970 back in the day, was playing Tomb Raider and it would stutter like crazy. This is why I rejected the 3070 and got a RX 6800 instead. And now 2 years later having this card with a game like RE4 is something I can comfortably max out.

@ml_serenity

Жыл бұрын

You rejected because you knew that 6800 has 16GB of VRAM vs 8GB in case of 3070 or simply because you had a bad experience with the 970 one?

@azraeihalim

Жыл бұрын

@@ml_serenity I think both

@zentar2646

Жыл бұрын

@@ml_serenity because he had experience with a once vram-gimped product like the 970 before he knew he shouldnt repeat it and instead get the offering with more vram

@EyeofValor

Жыл бұрын

I'm maxed at a 10gb card. The op uploader is a moron and knows very little.

@xwar_88x30

Жыл бұрын

​@@ml_serenity he's basically saying he's future proofing by going for a gpu that has beefy vram and not experience a gimped card due to the lack of vram. This happened last gen with consoles people saying awh 2gb and 4gb is enough which lasted like a year and then they GPUs struggled, now ps5 etc is out games are just going to get more vram hungry as time goes on. Always future proof when it comes to pcs especially when it comes to vram. 6800/6800xt are going to just dominate the 3070 and 3080 as time goes on. It's sad because like Owen said the 3070 and 3070ti are easily able to max these games out but the lack of vram has gimped those cards.

That's weird.. I've been using my ROG Flow X13 2022 with a 3050 Ti (4GB) and I've been going just a bit overboard with the vram limit in the graphics setting. But no crashes. At all.

May I ask a question? So the brand of gpu ? Such as evga , zotac etc I have an evga rtx 3070ti ftw and I don't have that issue of vram and crashing yes still 8 GB but doesn't the vram spill in to system memory?

Main reason I went with a 6700xt was VRAM. The new Xbox/PS released use 16GB ram shared between the CPU and GPU so essentially 12GB VRAM assuming 4GB reserved for CPU. Since game developers tend to focus on consoles and their capabilities its probably a good idea to have AT LEAST 12GB Vram. I could be wrong but I always thought the 30 series cards didn't have enough Vram and it seems to be starting to have an effect.

@pk417

Жыл бұрын

The truth is even consoles don't use ultra settings So image what is going to happen in 2024 with 8gb gpus

@victorsegoviapalacios4710

Жыл бұрын

That is not how it works, max real VRAM available is around 10 GB, best case; usually even less. There is a reason of the memory config of the XSX

@larion2336

Жыл бұрын

Same here, also 6700 XT and it's been great. Runs a lot cooler than my old 1070 TI as well.

@saricubra2867

Жыл бұрын

But you are ignoring the 3080Ti and 3090.

@TankoxD

Жыл бұрын

@@saricubra2867 they are 2 times more expensive

I'm glad i chose the 7900 XT over the 4070 Ti when there's memory issues like this

@Gh0st_91

Жыл бұрын

me too

@gloomy935

Жыл бұрын

The 4070 TI doesn't have 8gb of vram.

@andrewsolis2988

Жыл бұрын

Early adopters of the 7900 xt are now laughing at team green!! 😎

@shebeski

Жыл бұрын

I've been playing just fine. I've had to turn down the textures slightly but can't notice the difference the vast majority of the time. The benefits of this card vs the 7900XT show in a variety of other titles. You win some, you lose some.

@Dragonlord826

Жыл бұрын

​@@gloomy935 12gb is pretty pathetic for the price

Did they sort out some of the setting labels for RE4? I remember playing RE:Village with my then-new RX6600 and maxing everything out including the Image Quality slider and being confused when it was running just below 60fps. A quick google search revealed that Image Quality was what controlled the resolution scale so the game was actually running at supersampled 4k.

I do not know if a lot of people have the same issue, but I experienced some memory issues in Dead Space Remake. It feels like my 3070 VRAM is not enough for this game even in 1080p, because after I started the game I have (in 1440p) ~90 fps, while after 10 minutes of running back-and-forth my VRAM consumption increases from 6GB to 7.9GB and my fps drops down to 25 and even lower. After restart of the game I get a good fps again but I cannot actually play the game :/ It feels like I need to conduct a surgery and increase the VRAM to be able to play

Good that I went with AMDs 12Gigs instead of the 8 Gigs from Nvidias counterpart in 2021, this was one of the crucial aspects for me why I chose Team Red

@RS_Redbaron

Жыл бұрын

A 1080Ti had 11 so what is 12 hahaha

@adi6293

Жыл бұрын

@@RS_Redbaron 1080Ti was a $699 high end card you idiot , 6700XT is a mid range card

@RS_Redbaron

Жыл бұрын

@Khel easy !

@silverwatchdog

Жыл бұрын

@@RS_Redbaron And the 1080ti was a flagship overkill GPU, but somehow for a good price. It's not surprising it had 11GB in 2017 because it was meant to be overkill.

@mirzaaljic

Жыл бұрын

Same.

This game is the one that let me know my 5700xt is already outdated because of the VRAM. Normally, lowering settings is fine, but there's something about lowering texture quality that hits different 😅

@raresmacovei8382

Жыл бұрын

We always knew that with just 8 GB VRAM (and lacking Vegas HBMC option). Sticking to high enough textures gives 80-120 fps in 1080p, maxed out, Hair Strands, FSR2 Quality. It's fine.

@Jacob-hl6sn

Жыл бұрын

my rx 5700 xt was already obsoleted by performance in new games, you need a rx 6000 upgrade like I did

@demetter7936

Жыл бұрын

Turn shadows from max to high and disable raytracing, it's only on water anyway.

@raresmacovei8382

Жыл бұрын

@@Jacob-hl6sn Which part of 80-120 fps feels like "lacking performance"?

@Jacob-hl6sn

Жыл бұрын

@@raresmacovei8382 some new games i only got 60 fps with that gpu but that fps is fine if that's what it is in this game

You make an excellent point. I've been struggling along with my 2070, and very nearly bought a 3070 Ti, as in many respects it was better than its predecessor, it was the 8GB VRAM that ultimately stopped me from buying this GPU. I'm glad I waited for the 4070 Ti, it's a great 1440p card, and the extra 50% of VRAM is just about ok for now and the next couple of years. 🤞🏻 Nvidia need to stop being tight with the VRAM on their cards, 8GB is only adequate for 1080p gaming, for the prices they charge they should have doubled it to 16GB for 1440p cards (don't know anything about 4K gaming, until you can run games at 144-165 FPS it doesn't really matter IMO) when paying for $1,000-$1,600 for a GPU I think it's fair that you get a card with some headroom, VRAM usage has been climbing in new titles and I'd argue that Nvidia are strangling the performance of some of their cards by being so tight with the VRAM

@katieadams5860

9 ай бұрын

The 4070 ti would be a good card if it was $600 instead of $800

Hello there, i am between 4080 and 7900 xtx. I love story mode games and planning to play games on 2k oled monitor. Do you think in ultra settings with ray tracing enabled. 7900 xtx can sport any game with playable fps? And considering 16 gb with ultra settings might now be enough in 2 years do you think it’s better to buy 7900 xtx? Especially if you consider probably even 16 gb won't be enough in 2 years.

My wife recently upgraded her 3070 to a 7900XTX due to ram issues in some games that she plays and I will be doing the same , we were going to get 4080 and 4090 but fuck nVidia , I'm aware of AMD's short comings but at lest they aren't stingy with the VRAM on their cards , 3070 should have had 12GB full stop , and my 3080 only having 10GB is just a disgrace

@GhOsThPk

Жыл бұрын

The 7900XT has 20GB, the RTX 4080 has 16GB same amount AMD gave to the RX 6800/XT last generation, NVIDIA does it because they know people will buy, they gimp it to make a little more profit.

@NXDf7

Жыл бұрын

7900xtx is a great card, just make sure you get a good AIB like sapphire nitro. I have had nitro cards for 4 years and have had 0 problems.

@adi6293

Жыл бұрын

@@NXDf7 That is what she's got 😜 I'm also getting Nitro+

@igorrafael7429

Жыл бұрын

7900XTX ray tracing's performance is on par with rtx 3080~~3090, which is pretty good, considerable stronger raster performance though. my 3080 is a beast but often limited by the vram, specially in rt games (rt is vram hungry, which is ironic), which makes me want to upgrade in less then 2 years of using it, unfortunately

@saricubra2867

Жыл бұрын

@@igorrafael7429 But that is quite mediocre for a flagship, on par with 3080 and 3090 means that it's the same as a 3080Ti from previous gen, therefore RTX4070Ti. A 4090 blows that Radeon out of the water. GTX 1080Ti 2.0

This is the reason why I chose a used RTX 2080ti instead of a used RTX 3070, it was even €50 cheaper, no matter what others said, it is newer, more modern, less power consumption, better Ray Tracing. Its turn out that RTX 2080ti with its 11gb will outlast both the 3070 and 3070ti. It's a pity the strong graphics but limited VRAM. Consoles are the base line, they have 16gb of ram, approximately 12-13gb are reserved for games. I think 12gb is the norm for upcoming games, especially if it's played with Ray Tracing.

@ZratP

Жыл бұрын

Yup you pointed up something there. The current gen of consoles (PS5 and Xbox Series X) are a much more capable baseline compared to what the PS4 and Xbox One were compared to PC 3 years after their release retrospectively. I think on the Xbox Series X, you have 10 GB of RAM faster than the other 6 GB, those 10 GB are clearly mainly used for GPU and textures. Meaning that 8 GB may start to become a bottleneck for some GPUs in the upcoming years for high textures quality and 1440+p. Actually a lot of PC gamers in the upcoming years will start to feel the effects of that new baseline as cross-gen games is almost over and more and more games will move exclusively to PS5 and Xbox Series (even if the existence of Series S may actually control the damage). Their fast SSDs, 8 quite recent cores, plenty of memory, decent GPU may up minimal/recommended requirements.

@PeterPauls

Жыл бұрын

Ah, no, on consoles they are optimizing and to be fair the textures look very bad at 0.5GB, much worse than other older games. I'm sure the new consoles doesn't use more memory for textures than 6-8GB.

@sjuric2435

Жыл бұрын

@@ZratP That's right. I also remember the PS4 era from 2013 when they came with 8gb of RAM, people shouted that 2gb of RAM is enough when it was cross gen. I remember reading articles about what programmers said, buy graphics with as many as possible Vrama consoles then used 3gb for the OS and 5gb for games. When the cross gen passed in 2014, I then bought a used R9 280x with 3gb. A few months later, a number of games are released, Far Cry 4 requires 3gb for High texture, Rise of Tomb Raider 3gb for High, Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor 3gb for High and I had no problem. And then Nvidia only sold GTX 780/780ti with 3gb, while AMD had, as it does now, HD 7950/7970 3gb and r9 280/280x 3gb and r9 290/290x 4gb. Nothing has changed at Nvidia regarding VRAM since then they don't give it easily.

@sjuric2435

Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPauls We are not in 2017 anymore. In 2016, I had a GTX 1070 with 8GB, and for $230 you could buy new RX 480 with 8GB of VRAM. it's time to move away from 8gb and move on. People today play on higher resolutions, textures are getting bigger and more detailed, Ray Tracing is there, etc.

@mimimimeow

Жыл бұрын

@@PeterPauls the reason console textures look bad is due to CPU and GPU competing for the limited RAM bandwidth, not the capacity. It's also why consoles often use inferior texture filtering. They can still load shitton of VRAM assets for a bigass level. There is no excuse that Nvidia skimped on VRAM. Looking at console RAM trends alone, 4MB-64MB-512MB-8GB, the current would have 64GB. Sure they only have 16GB, but these consoles are also betting on something we in the PC ecosystem lack: On the PS5 the dedicated SSD IO compression could swap between VRAMSSD up to 20-ish GB/s effective, that is PS3-era VRAM bandwidth. Now what's the point of this? A creative dev could theoretically constantly buffer data that it'd seem to have unlimited VRAM. We have no equivalent of this on Windows. DirectStorage has some ways to go.

Sorry for comment again Daniel you can do a test to see if we get better performance with the 3060 12GB vs 3060Ti or 3070? thank you

I had a few video driver crashes with the game either this crash or full PC lockup. I ended up slightly turning my OC down and locking fps to 120, but still pretty frustrating. The game didn’t run that hot with everything maxed out at 144 for me.

That's exactly what Nvidia wanted. Go ahead upgrade to the 1000$ 12GB 4070 Ti that is also gonna run out of VRAM in 2 years!

@ALM_Relaxed

Жыл бұрын

Thats why you need to spend those 1600 bucks for The 4090 to stay relaxed for The upcoming future games

@albertoalves1063

Жыл бұрын

@@ALM_Relaxed But even the 4090 will not hold on much time either, if the 4070TI is up to 2 years the 4090 is about 4

@ALM_Relaxed

Жыл бұрын

@@albertoalves1063 well 4 years it’s more than enought… than you can change gpu/entire pc

@albertoalves1063

Жыл бұрын

@@ALM_Relaxed Bro the 4090 is like 8 times more powerful then the PS5 and in 4 years the PS5 will still will be running games that the 4090 will not be able to, because the usage of Vram

@od1sseas663

Жыл бұрын

@@ALM_Relaxed 1600$? Imma gonna buy 3!

Just to think that the 1080ti had 11gb vram way back then. Glad I held onto mine, just put in a second computer with a 6700k

@tourmaline07

Жыл бұрын

Same here with 2080ti , given the card's age I'm not too fussed if I now need to play high instead of ultra textures :)

@user-eu5ol7mx8y

Жыл бұрын

Looks like high-end cards are best value after all.

@saricubra2867

Жыл бұрын

@@user-eu5ol7mx8y They ALWAYS have been (with the exception of the 2080Ti, Turing sucked so much). Graphics card get obsolete very quickly unlike CPUs.

@saricubra2867

Жыл бұрын

@@user-eu5ol7mx8y 1080Ti is doing fine, 3080Ti chilling at 4K despite NOT being a 4K card, 4090 being a 1080Ti 2.0 (a mistake). AMD entry level, Intel fighting with Raja while they keep losing money by the failure of Arc launch.

@otto5423

Жыл бұрын

@@saricubra2867 4090 is not 1080 ti 2.0 because 4090 is very expensive card compared to 1080 ti launch price. 2000€ vs 700€ lol

Same with RX 6600 XT. When I set it to prioritize graphics, my GPU is only used at 60 - 70% max. Meaning I can set the graphics to higher. But as soon as I do and exceed the 8GB limit waaay too much, the game just crashes. I kinda regret not getting the RX 6700 XT now. It had 12 GB VRAM. I never thought VRAM would be an issue this quickly at 1080p.

I have this gpu..Palit version, brand new and I'm gaming at 1080p, will I face any issues ?

I tested my friends RX 6600 XT against my GTX 1080 Ti in RE4 remake and even at 1080p the Max preset option simply doesn’t work on the 8gb 6600 XT. They delivered similar experiences when lowering the settings a bit but I just find it funny that 6 years later, the 1080 Ti’s Vram capacity is starting to help it out.

@user-eu5ol7mx8y

Жыл бұрын

1080 Ti is legend

@fwef7445

Жыл бұрын

1080ti was the last decent product nvidia made

@steveleadbeater8662

Жыл бұрын

@@fwef7445 It would be the 3080 if it actually stayed at its $649 MSRP. Better to say it was the last Value for Money product.

@puppy.shorts

Жыл бұрын

same with my rtx 3060 12gb 😊

@TheEvilPorkchop03

Жыл бұрын

i had my 1080ti from a couple months after launch till 2 months ago and for that reason it’s got to be the best. absolute unit that card is. Deffinetly better money spent than any computer component i’ve ever bought.

Great video. We are about to see a 4060 TI with 8gb of Vram running just as fast as a 3070 Ti and it will have the same issues.

@Mortalz2

Жыл бұрын

need rtx 4060 ti 16gb

@fwef7445

Жыл бұрын

because the mid 3000 cards have an identity crisis, they have the raw power for 1440p but the vram for only 1080p, therefore they are badly designed. if you want to play at 1440p you ideally want 12gbs of vram. Absolutely nobody should be buying a 3070 or 3070ti, these cards suck. The 4060ti is going to suffer the same fate, it's just going to turn into yet another overpriced 1080p card

I have a Vega 56 still (Waiting to see if 4070ti prices drop or if 7700XT will be any good before upgrading) and even though the game states over 10GB of VRAM to be used on an 8GB card I haven't had a crash yet and have completed the game multiple times.

What happened to the days that let the textures go onto the normal ram if you ran out of VRAM?

Excited for 4060 with 4GB of ram ❤gogo nVidia !

@renoputra5219

Жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to 4050 Ti 1GB

@deaneyle3940

Жыл бұрын

​@@renoputra5219 and a standard 4050 with 500mb vram

@IISocratesII

Жыл бұрын

This is why people used to called NVidia "NoVideo" lmao

This is the exact same reason why I switched to AMD (RX 6700XT) after almost 9 years using Nvidia GPU (my last Nvidia GPU was RTX 2060). I almost continue "the tradition" and planned to upgrade into RTX 3060 Ti but Im very glad now that I didnt do it and make a switch to AMD GPU

@lordmorbivod

Жыл бұрын

I took this one too, the game runs flawlessly at 60fps even with ray tracing on but keeps crashing with D3D error according to vram even lowering setting

@steadygaming7737

Жыл бұрын

​@GnarboK the d3d fatal error is due to a problem with the emplimentation of Ray tracing. I also have an rx 6700xt in my system, I can run the game at 1440p max settings with more than 60fps. When running the game with Ray tracing on, it crashes within 5 minutes, even though I have more than sufficient vram.

@radite2177

Жыл бұрын

@@lordmorbivod ah too bad.. me myself never like the ray tracing feature since first time trying it using RTX 2060 and now with 6700XT.. I just think that its not worth it of the performance impact, and didnt add substantial things to my enjoyment of the game itself.. but thats me.. back to each own preferences. For me just using normal reflection settings/features like SSR etc are more than enough

@serphvarna4154

Жыл бұрын

6700xt to 3060ti is a downgrade

@radite2177

Жыл бұрын

@@serphvarna4154 yeah glad I choose 6700XT instead of 3060 Ti

I bought a 3070 and a 3070 TI once I could get them at MSRP after prices crashed, wound up returning both and picking up a 6800 XT because I thought with more vram it would probably have better legs. Would love to see a comparison with a 6800 XT in these titles now.

@WalkerIGP

Жыл бұрын

You are not the only one. I am going to trade up mt 3070 Ti in a few days to a 6950XT or 7900XTX.

@user78405

Жыл бұрын

Should get with 7900xt, a 6800xt is not powerful with more VRAM alone is slower engine to run other games that 3070ti ran best on with bigger engine even VRAM is small...odd choices to pick last gen...and for others I would recommend keep holding on, Microsoft already patch DirectX 12 issue with copy VRAM and copy system ram bug issues by upload Heap that devs will patch the game with new code that benefit 8gb VRAM by allowing the CPU have access VRAM directly than adding latency from system ram old fashion that been around for over 30 years of processing

@WalkerIGP

Жыл бұрын

@@user78405 In my opinion a 6950XT would be better, at just 600 to 700 USD, that is what I choose, on its way now. The 7900XT is not good value when you can get a XTX for just 100 USD more. This means that there is no reason to go for the 7900XT as a more powerful card is within reach. If the 7900XT was 700 to 800 USD I would have gone for it. I do agree that a 6800XT is not enough of an uplift from 3070ti, you need at least 6900XT or better to notice a difference. I also realized in my earlier comment I wrote XT, meant to write XTX.

@madtech5153

Жыл бұрын

time to watch hardware unboxed's vid then

As a 3070 ti owner myself I'm starting to see this happen in certain games. It's very frustrating but of course there's ways around it.

@webtax

Жыл бұрын

could you summarize some tips to go around this, so i can know what to look for when searching?

@OMaMYdG

Жыл бұрын

@webtax basically just have to mess with some of your graphics settings. Turn down the resolution or ray tracing.

@nape_soot_asd

Жыл бұрын

@@OMaMYdG How does it look like when you dont use raytracing and not play 4k

@gonlyhlpz

Жыл бұрын

Best option would be to use dlls balanced or performance or FSR 2.0, you cant run native 4k with this card, I have been using this card for more than a year, but its a solid card for 1080p

@OMaMYdG

Жыл бұрын

@gonlyhlpz I'm playing in 1440p and with most games it's very good. Just the recent games like RE4 even with dlss has issues. I Just turn the settings down a bit and im fine.

Daniel Owen : the since 2015 standarized (at least on AMD R9 300 series GPU-s) 8 GB VRAM buffer issue was already present in Resident Evil 2 REMAKE 2019 and Resident Evil 3 REMAKE 2020 at 1080p already using Ultra details. Resident Evil 2 REMAKE used/allocated slightly above 13 GB of VRAM at those settings.

Yes sir. I have a 3080 10gb, and i HAD to turn of ray tracing to stop the crashes. Played the opening level 3 times on hardcore and crashed at the village fight 3 times.

@Grim_Jesus

Жыл бұрын

For me, putting textures on 1gb, and shadows on 'high' with everything else maxed out stopped the crashing.

@unclehowdy409

11 ай бұрын

Nvidia pushing a feature you can't even use properly on the flagship card. Really glad I went amd after my 2070 super

Could you set it to capped 60 fps and solve the issue that way? Also there are other settings to tweak like dynamic hair which is a big vram clog and I really hate the look of

Also to point out notice whenever you go down the graphic settings and and maybe change it that the vram number on the right changes instead of being where it suppose to be. I really hope they fix it.

I found out RE4:Remake loads shaders during the 1st loading screens and intro. Let it run and the game runs better. No stutters. Great video and informative

@abhirupkundu2778

Ай бұрын

mine starts lagging when very intensive scenes are playing. Such as the village near the lake in chapter 4 or chp 5 I think. Cuz its a gtx 1650, runs the game smooth af other than the texture settings at high 1 GB, wtf is wrong with nvidia overpricing every card.

This is why I have always considered amount of VRAM as most important feature of GPU ( I bought very obscure FireGL workstation dGPU 20 years ago and the system was still top performer 5 years later in benchmarking services).

@aqwandrew6330

Жыл бұрын

what vram it have?

Have you ever done a guide on how to setup the Afterburner OSD like that? I'd love to copy it on my setup.

Do you think there's going to be a work-around or some kind or fix to trick vram consuming in a certain form or definitely last-gen 8-12gb GPUs are doomed?

@brettlawrence9015

Жыл бұрын

The only solution is turning down settings unfortunately.

I have a rtx 3060 and ultra textures in 1080p can take over 10 gigs of VRAM if you enable RT. It can handle it with 60 fps locked. So they definitely need more VRAM for the higher end cards.

@Anto-xh5vn

Жыл бұрын

Me with my 3060 Ti 8GB seeing it getting fucked because of vram 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

@Simpleman1995

Жыл бұрын

nvidia : say it louder i dont hear🗿🗿

@silverwatchdog

Жыл бұрын

You really don't need ultra textures on new games for 1080p. Sure on older games like RDR2 anything other than ultra textures looked horrible, but now even low texture will work on 1080p. Ultra textures are mainly for 8K and high for 4K. Depends on the game though. However if you have the spare VRAM, there is no reason not to put textures as high as they can go.

@nabilellaji6509

Жыл бұрын

@@silverwatchdog RTX 3060 is supposed to work better with 1080p anyways so you just cannot go wrong with this card if you don't mind playing at 1080p or even 1440p max.

@stygiann

Жыл бұрын

I have 3060 and yeah the game can even perform even better (75-80fps) at 1080p, but I get the same VRAM crash so it's either an Nvidia or a Capcom issue

Resident Evil 4 tells you you don't have enough vram even when you do, and crashes at around the 16gb mark after saying you are in the orange warning range (7900 XT has 20gb vram). Its a known bug that has carried over from RE 2 and RE 3. They both do the same thing. It seems to have been an issue introduced when they added ray tracing to the engine they use.

@Spr1ggan87

Жыл бұрын

That update came out ages ago and they still haven't fixed it in those those games, they just re-released the DX11 version of the game via beta branch and called it a day.

@MistyKathrine

Жыл бұрын

@@Spr1ggan87 I hate half-assed Steam ports of games. It's a huge problem in a lot of games. Like, is it really that hard to release games that don't have serious bugs?

@saricubra2867

Жыл бұрын

I have the Gamecube Orginal and i would rather play that instead of the foggy and bland Unreal Engine art look from the remake and we are talking about the Gamecube, optimization is perfect.

@Spr1ggan87

Жыл бұрын

@@MistyKathrine Try the PC version of RE4 HD with the HD Project mod installed, iirc it even has a set of lighting options to choose from with one mimicking the style of Gamecube version. Imho it's better than the GC version as in that version everything more than an arms length away from Leon looks like a pixelated mess. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iXWam7Rxj8aygNI.html

@MistyKathrine

Жыл бұрын

@@Spr1ggan87 Yeah there are a lot of games on Steam that pretty much require mods to make them playable. This reminds of another Gamecube title that's on Steam, Tales of Symphonia. What a disaster that port was, thankfully there were eventually mods that fixed most of the issues but that game was quite literally broken and unplayable at launch. I just don't understand how companies think it's okay to release games in that state as doing so just leads to bad reviews and poor sales.

Even my 4080 at 4K required lowering the textures to 4GB to stop crashes. I was still in orange at 6GB, but it did crash a couple times, presumably when it hit a scene that used more VRAM. I've never been particularly sensitive to texture resolutions. I don't usually notice a difference between launch textures and the 4K fan-made ones that come out for a lot of games, so I don't really mind only allocating 4GB, but it's not really a great feeling that the $1200 video card I just bought is already hitting a hardcap on what game settings it can run.

@badimagerybyjohnromine

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this is unacceptable, if you pay a thousand dollars+ for a gpu you should be able to play whatever game you want on on ultra settings.

@Phoboskomboa

Жыл бұрын

@@badimagerybyjohnromine I've noticed load times increasing and more stable behavior in the last few days. I think they may have quietly patched it to keep less in active VRAM at the cost of needing to load more per area. Or, it could be in my head.

@abhirupkundu2778

Ай бұрын

you all here with rtx cards, while I play the game with my gtx 1650 GDDR6, textures at 0.5 GB only, hair strands off, 1080p, and yet face lag in intense areas due to low VRAM

Dude! It looks like you have the resolution setting at 4K(3840x2160) instead of 1440p. More VRAM might be better but how to upgrade the RAM on a GPU? Re-Mount the GPU Die on a new card with more memory? Can this be done with a slight Video BIOS MOD?

My 6700xt will be the best purchase I'll make for the next 4-5 years. Near 3070 levels of performance(minus RT) with 4GB more vram.

I predicted this would happen it made no sense that Nvidia released a gpu with 8gb in 2020 when they had a gpu in 2016 with 8gb of vram. This was there plan to force an upgrade before you really needed an upgrade. When ever your buying a video card you should always buy a higher tier then what the current Gen console has and in this case both xbox and ps5 have more vram then the 3070/70 ti. The best part about it is that the incoming 4060 is rumored to have 8gb and it will probably be somewhere between 3070 ti/3080 performance but kneecapped out the gate by the low vram.

@greggreg2458

Жыл бұрын

That level of performance with 6GB is so wrong...

@Metical1312

Жыл бұрын

@@greggreg2458 I have been Nvidia ever since going back to school in 2013 not buy choice but just because of the need for cuda through out this whole time i have seen almost every card i purchase with Nvidia the Amd competitor ages better my GTX 780 6gb lost driver support as soon as the 900 series hit mean while the Rx 290 only stopped getting upgrades last year and is still viable for 1080 low gaming. GTX 1060 vs Rx 480/580 is no longer a topic today cause the 1060 can't really hang with it's 6gb in 2023. I'm still a slave to cuda and because of that now own a 3080 10gb instead of a 6800xt 16gb I'm sure AmD fine wine will win here to and the 6800xt will be viable longer then my 3080 even though they are roughly the same speed currently. Hopefully AMD gets there act together pertaining to 7800/7700 lines with decent performance/ VRAM and pricing to really apply pressure to Nvidia.🤞🏾

@Nightceasar

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the 4060 will probably have the 3070 performance but cost the same as the 3070 did aswell. So basically you are just getting the same 3070 again for the same price.

@niebuhr6197

Жыл бұрын

4060 might not even match 3060ti. Unless they release something different than the laptop version with more specs but that looks unlikely.

I haven't bought the game yet, but does it perform like the demo? I have a 3070 and I didn't have vram (Textures at 2gb) issues at 1440p

does enabling Resizable Bar help with this issue for RTX cards?

Glad I went with the 6700xt over the 3070, had a gut feeling vram would be an issue

@barrontrump3943

Жыл бұрын

​@@blue-lu3izgaming in general nowadays is a total rip off and scam. Just bought a new rig that's 3 generations into rtx? Gotta have that turned off fam or you ain't playing on 120 fps natively. Its a joke especially with ReMaKeS that are completely unnecessary and people just gobble it up because they have nothing else meaningful to live for

@lifemocker85

Жыл бұрын

No need for gut feelings when you use brains

@cripmeezy

Жыл бұрын

Same here my guy no issues with resident evil 4 on high settings ray-tracing set to normal

@thelazyworkersandwich4169

Жыл бұрын

@@barrontrump3943 Facts. I'm playing games on a integrated graphics, have a ps4 for more demanding games and doing just fine, they're tons of legacy titles that provide way better content and value than whats coming out.

@AAjax

Жыл бұрын

@@blue-lu3iz gotta fund the leather jackets somehow

Intel's arc A770 starting to look really good

@UmbraWeiss

Жыл бұрын

i have a 3060ti, the next upgrade i make will probably be AMD or Intel, in 2-3 years until this card is really outdated at 1080, Intel probably will be a really good option for Upgrade.

@gubbica99

Жыл бұрын

@@UmbraWeiss i had an Amd card for 2 years after it broke (thinking its a joke for 2 years and the card is dead) i bought an Nvdia card and only after a year its not working as it should, would say the perfomnce of the card is at max 50 percent after games like witcher, elder ring and such. Thinking about intel card in like 2 years.

@xxvelocity_0439

Жыл бұрын

@@gubbica99 gpus breaking down after a year of use(even intensive) is not common. If your AMD card died after two years and your Nvidia card is on the same road then im not so sure that the Intel card will be any better.

I didn't really notice a difference between high 4gb and high 8gb in my testing. Both settings seem to be the same quality wise.

for that reason. i like AMD. nvidia is too expensive however doesn't have vram enought

This is why I game at 1080p with high end GPU and never worry about FPS or lowering settings.

@AndyHDGaming

Жыл бұрын

When you have a 4K screen, you will find that the picture quality of a 1080p screen is really poor, and the pixelation is very noticeable

@trenchcoats4life891

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyHDGaming agreed. I jumped from 1080p to 1440p and I cannot stand 1080p now.

@AdrianMuslim

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyHDGaming When I have a 4K screen, I will also find that frames are really poor. I barely get 60FPS in some games at 1080p, let alone 4K. lol.

Your video’s title is Invisible to Nvidia RTX 5070 will have a large 3gb of vram, can’t wait

Thank you for validating this concern, I wasn't too sure who to side with. Easy sub!

Is this a bug on the driver? I'm using a 2080 (non super) and I don't have any problems with texture settings. It runs just fine on my end. Also 1440p and my Settingspanel says 12GB/8GB needed. So it's red as hell but besides that it doesn't show any problems. I think Alex from DF also said this in one of his PC Resi Videos that the Max allocation is completely wrong on those Games.

I have a 3070 ti and I ran into this very problem in the chainsaw RE4 demo. The card had been great in just about everything else though, but yeah I do wish it had at least 12GB

@jacketofthe80s13

Жыл бұрын

you don't man. the highest texture quality means aboslutly nothing you're just using all that vram to store shaders in a cache so it loads textures without hick ups. so no it's not your gpu it's capcoms retarded way to handle shaders

Dunno why I chose 2060super with 12gb for my second desktop pc at that time but I feel lucky finally able to put it to use lol😅

so the textures are not optimized? will it get patched along the line?

Do you know why when I turn rt on in menu it goes to like 6.4gb and it's in the yellow but when I load in game I look and it's at 4.9 and in white but with rt off its 5.1. so how does turning rt on make the vram calculator less? Makes no sense

I have an RTX 3080 10gb and when I was playing the Diablo 4 Beta I found turning down the textures from High to medium significantly reduces the stuttering I was getting in the game. Everything else was on Max at 4k. Some of it was the game, network stutters, optimisation, etc but it was noticeably better when turning down the Textures. Was surprised that Diablo 4 was a Texture hog.

@Pytony_98

Жыл бұрын

diablo 4 with ultra textures has a memory leak problem, on my pc used 12gb of vram, 24 gb of ram and 50gb of pagefile.

The diablo 4 beta also uses crazy amounts of vram. It was using 21gb on my 3090.

@theyoungjawn

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it’s been found the game has a memory leak. Hopefully they fix it during launch.

@MrSnake9419

Жыл бұрын

changing the textures to medium should fix this

@tahustvedt

Жыл бұрын

Some games will use whatever's available (up to a point off course) even though the performance benefit will roll off at a much lower point.

@MrEditsCinema

Жыл бұрын

​@Grumpy RC Modeler call of duty cold war for example..it will allocate 80% of all your vram for the game even though it doesn't need it Doesn't make the game more stable or improve frame times etc

Would this be where Still-Vega owners *Laughs in High Bandwidth Cache Controller*? I still have the Vega 64 and placed it in my new i7 12700k build with 32GB of system RAM. If I were to switch on HBCC and allocate say for example 16GB from system RAM and treat that as Virtual VRAM, would that overcome the 8GB limitation of the HBM and just treat it as a large superfast framebuffer cache? Would that potentially consume up to an additional 16GB of system RAM to run the game otherwise? I'm guessing it would let me continue getting away with 1440p at high settings in a few more games where in other cards they would choke. Could stretch another 2 years at most with that feature. Any hope for us?

is it a good idea to upgrade from a 2060 to a 3060 12gb as the former has just 6gb vram?Or should i wait for 4060 to launch?

If this game preferences act the same way as in Re2 remake (which is highly likely, since they use the same RE engine), texture cache high 0,5gb and high 8gb should give the same result visually, but lower setting may or may not result in a bit more stuttering, bc the game needs to swap the textures to and from VRAM more frequently. That said, I completely agree that selling mid to high end cards for that amount of money without providing them with at least 12 GB of VRAM is extremely bad on nvidia part. Hell, I had 11GB of VRAM when I had GTX 1080Ti and that card came out like 7 years ago. Imagine the cruel irony of paying hundreds of bucks for modern ass GPU and having to play on lower settings than a person who bought his GPU 7 years ago or for peanuts second hand! Seems like Nvidia does everything to completely ruin their reputation this gen. Not that it was especially high to begin with, but still.😮

It's funny, I have a 3080 mobile, so a gpu barely on par with a standard 3070 desktop and clearly behind a 3070Ti. But I got 16Gb VRAM and I can max everything here hitting an amount close to 14Gb VRAM, and it's butter smooth. VRAM was really underestimated last gen, especially from Nvidia

@doriangray2347

Жыл бұрын

lol 🎉

The thing they did in hogwarts legacy is that textures will lower at random while playing to preserve Vram, while this works it makes a lot of visual mess, and not the kind i like cause it happens in your peripheral vision, the textures change all the time around you making it annoying and distracting while causing stutters here and there.

I was crashing even before 8GB, at like low 7s? It wasn't an immediate crash like yours but I would crash in the demo right before I reached the village, where that dip occurs and the village loads in. Super annoying, had to reduce ray tracing to normal and textures to 1GB

The textures in this game don't work the way they do in a lot of games. It basically has 3 texture sets, low, medium, and high. Low being set at zero and then the medium and high category are subdivided into texture pool sizes that the game dynamically draws from. So when set to high texture 0.5 gb, you might see some lower textures but if you were to focus on one area the higher textures will load in. I generally find if you can tune in your other settings to allow for a 2gb high texture pool the game will typically keep up with showing you the games highest quality textures at distances that actually make a difference to the experience at 1440p. Also, the RT in this game is totally not worth it for the performance hit. If it were RTGI, or RTAO, or even RT shadows, I would be more interested. But simply just RT reflections? Not worth it imo. Edit: you can run everything 100% maxed out ignoring the VRAM limit so long as RT is off. The D3D crash only happens with RT on and VRAM overloaded.

@Keivz

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Odd this wasn’t mentioned but it should be well known. Same with many other Resident Evil games. And I bet if he set the vram setting to 1gb, it wouldn’t have crashed and it would have looked fine. Meanwhile, his example #2 just showed how much it is the fault of developers and how such problems can be fixed. As for Forspoken, the demo has not been updated. Their latest patch notes says under optimization: Reduced the VRAM usage. (PC version). This video is much ado about nothing.

@Orain88

Жыл бұрын

@@Keivz yes indeed. I'd also add that this crash only seems to happen when RT is on in combination with too much VRAM usage. I haven't been able to cause this crash with RT off and all other settings maxed out.

@Spr1ggan87

Жыл бұрын

@@Keivz Nah it just takes longer to crash at 1Gb, the same thing is happening to me with RE2 Remake. Maxing textures leads to a crash within minutes of playing, setting it to 1Gb let's me play for around 4 hours before i get the D3D Fatal Error crash.

@MistyKathrine

Жыл бұрын

Yeah certainly not worth running RT at high. Can run it at low and medium and reduce the performance hit and give more room for textures.

@ChaosAlter

Жыл бұрын

Only if he did some googling for a couple of minutes

That's why I went with AMD instead of Nvidia this time. I had bought a 4070Ti for R$7,300 ($1.391,38 USD) here in Brazil. It had issues 2 weeks later and unfortunately died. I sent it for RMA and now they will refund me. I bought another graphics card to replace it for a much cheaper price, as I couldn't wait too long for the refund and decided to buy a 6750 XT, which is priced at R$3,400 ($648,04 USD). I'm quite happy with the performance of the 6750 XT, as it runs games smoothly in 2K resolution. I can run everything on max settings except ray tracing in Resident Evil 4 Remake, which causes the game to crash after a while. However, I don't really care about that as it doesn't make that much of a difference, and I prefer to have good performance rather than fancy lighting effects that drastically reduce it. My next card will be a 7900 XTX with 24GB of VRAM. I'm tired of Nvidia, this problem I had with the 4070Ti was unforgivable, such an expensive card having issues 2 weeks after use and still having only 12GB of VRAM.

Would you be interested in doing a video of my shunt modded rtx A4000 as a comparison to the 6800 and 3070ti? There is another channel that has one but he didnt test as thoroughly as you do!

When I turn RT off the game does not crash even on max textures on a 3060 ti. I've had the same issue with re2 and 3 and only after turning off rt did it stop even when vram in the settings was like 12gb.

Makes me really glad i went with the 3090 with its 24 gb vram

@MrEditsCinema

Жыл бұрын

I've got 4080, I don't think 16gb vram will be a problem for quite awhile even at 4K

@joewhite8079

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrEditsCinemaI nearly got a 4080 but hopefully 12gb will hold out for 2-3 years at 4k with my 4070 ti.

@Anon1370

Жыл бұрын

i remember when i was trying to get a 3090 and someone said just buy the 3070 yeh now look glad i didnt take their advice.......

@saricubra2867

Жыл бұрын

​@@Anon1370 3080Ti also works, same die as the 3090 (same RT as well) but 12GB is the sweetspot.

@valeera5415

Жыл бұрын

@@Anon1370 i got mine brand new for 840 plus taxes and 20 shipping off ebay 2 weeks ago , heres a video about 12 gb vram tho kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIV1lcWNgLHPk8o.html

I had the same problem with RE2/RE3 Remake with the new raytracing update, turning off fixes the issue. There are people reporting crashes with 4070 Ti or even 4090, so it's not about 8GB VRAM.

@ddd45125

Жыл бұрын

4090 zero crashes in 44 hours if gameplay. RT on or off 130% resolution scale. RT currently off as it is kind of broken.

@UnN3wBie

Жыл бұрын

@@ddd45125 good for you, in any case rt is broken on this game (go check digital foundry's vid for details)

@valentds

Жыл бұрын

@@ddd45125 it's a 4090 bro, even with RT broken, 24 gb vram compensate that

i noticed this problem few years ago, since resident evil 2 remake was released. High preset in those game had the same memory usage, it's old known issue. If you force the game to use more memory than your GPU can handle, the game will stutter. It's very imprudent for nvidia that they made this size of memory for such cool hardware

I still have a 1080 Ti and I tried out RE4 Remake with settings well over the VRAM limit and it never crashed. I wonder why that's the case for the 3070?

@thepizzaboy7904

2 ай бұрын

Ray tracing could be the factor causing crash