Finally a sound and helpful video that makes sense

@4XTRAIL

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment John! Glad it was helpful 👊🏼

Excellent Video... Experience is everything... Great job!

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Nice video! I picked up the 35s in the same make and model! Only had them on for a little while but then seem great. They did great in Moab last week.

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear! Thanks bro 🤙🏼

Super helpful video man, good food for thought. I was interested in the Goodyear wrangler mt/r when I jump to 37s, gonna have to do some more research on em now haha

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Haha for sure! Glad it was helpful.

I like how you list the tire height for the 37's with the weight of the vehicle on them, it's a big help. I have an 85 Chevy K20 6" lift with 35's on 16x10 Classic II's, and they measure almost 33" tall even on the truck. Been wanting to switch to a 37x12.50r17 but really want the smallest 37" tire I can get in a D or E load rating but not a cheap knock off brand.

Of course this video comes out today, right after I bought 38in Patagonias, In part because of your videos about them, just last night. 😆 I was scared when I first saw the title that you were gonna say you were having problems with the Pats lol

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Dude you’ll love the Pats! Cool that you got 38s too. Just make sure you run them at a high enough psi. For 37s I think they recommend 36-38 which is quite a bit higher than you need for most larger tires. I ran mine too low for too long and ended up with uneven wear around 10k miles and they went downhill from there.

@johncarter9054

Жыл бұрын

@@4XTRAIL I agree. I have run two sets so far [37's] and the tire pressure for mine actually was a bit higher, about 45 for optimal wear patterns. I do drop them down however when off road for obvious reasons. Recommend a real good air pump capable of at least 5.60 cfm.

Good video, like your style.

@4XTRAIL

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! Thanks 🤙🏼

Great video

@4XTRAIL

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

We went with the 37" Yokohama Geolander X-ATs and they've been great tires through 10k miles. But we're going with the MTs next time. I originally thought the hybrid type tires would give us better performance in the rain around here, but so far it really hasn't been any better than MTs would be.

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

That’s good to know, thanks for sharing. The ATs should at least give you a little quieter ride. Even from new the Geolander MTs have a very slight hum to them.

@RoyFJ65

Жыл бұрын

I was in the same dilemma but am glad I opted for the MT G003 that have never ever let me down. Best of all its among the most usable MTs that can be your daily drivers on or off road.

may I offer some online advice from an old wheeler of Jeeps and an owner of 3 sets of G003 Yokahama ? At 01:17 minutes, you even see what I am about to mention. You , Caleb, would benefit greatly from using your entire Geolander tire if you would air down to 15PSI. You bounced into frame on far too inflated of that size tire for your weight Jeep. The ttreadblocks on the sidewall should be against the surface of the rocks or at least blorping over . I run 37" G003 on non beadlocks similar to yours on a four door and the bead holds down to 8psi. You can roll all day on 18psi and your ride wil be smoother and you'll not bounce along on little bunny trail rocks like that. Take it for what it's worth; internet advice. But, what do you lose by trying it to seeif I am on the level or not. Those tires can fold over on themselves and ooze you up rocks. if you let them

Not very many companies make 37 x 11 1/2 wide tires but they really help with gas mileage clearance and a tiny bit in weight. Something to keep in mind

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting! I wasn’t aware of that. I love the 38x12.5 ridge grapplers for the same concept.

The cheap China made tires can be lighter, but have less sidewall material. I get the struggle of trying to keep weight down, apples, oranges, pineapple, grapefruits. Great video, lots of good info

@4XTRAIL

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

great vid. such a difficult topic to cover. Tire size has so many variables when measured, but companies are clearly not making rated tire sizes. BFG is the worst offender and always one of the most expensive. I really would like a 35" K02, but I'd end up with a 33.5" or less tire.

@4XTRAIL

6 ай бұрын

It’s a weird game trying to guess what the actual size a tire is ha. Thanks for the comment

Black Rhino has several wheels with aggressive offsets for 37s

@4XTRAIL

Жыл бұрын

They make some great looking wheels!

The MT G003 are truly jack of all trade tires.

@4XTRAIL

7 ай бұрын

👏🏼

Great tire talk video! What’s your audio-video setup?

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! I use a Hero 9 with a Joby shotgun mic. For this particular video I only had my max (wide) lens which wasn’t ideal but 🤷🏼‍♂️

I researched tire size for my upgrade- and I came up with 35" Dia and the KO2s were in my sights. But I just let the shop that put my lift together determine the best cost effective tires. I was surprised they were the thirty sevens. And I ran them until it was time to bting the truck in for the suspension to be retorqued. There was no need for regearing (as I heard would be needed) and the gas milage was hovering over 20 mpg!!! Curious, I measured them when I got home and they are 35.5 Dia. More curious still, I put the tuner on the Jeep to find the shop programmed it for a 37" Dia. I put in the 35.5 and suddenly my mph was more accurate, as was my MPG, about 16.5 mpg. But a great tire that does all I ask of it, and not needing to regear (not yet anyhow) is a winner I'm my book- even if the price per inch ratio is a little high...

@4XTRAIL

Жыл бұрын

Good feedback - and great catch on the diameter programming. Hope they continue to work well for you!

Have you given the "new" Patagonias MT-02 a try yet? They are made of a stronger compound, wear better and can last up to 40k miles if not more. I am running 38s on my JLUR and I am loving them super quiet.

@4XTRAIL

9 ай бұрын

I haven’t but my buddy just started running a pair on his Jeep. Looking forward to seeing how they perform long term!

U can try cooper discoverer at3 xlt or Maxxis razr at, both r very light and amazing

@4XTRAIL

9 ай бұрын

👍🏼👏🏼

@4XTRAIL

9 ай бұрын

Appreciate the info!

10:06 👍🏽👍🏽

Yokohama and Nitto tires show 21/32" tread depth, Milestar listed with 19/32" tread depth. What was air pressure in tires when you measured them on vehicle?

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Great question and one I thought of when I was making this video. Unfortunately I don’t recall exact PSIs but I would guess low 30s for all of the tire heights I mention in this video - maybe a bit higher for the BFGs. Thanks for watching!

on those trails youre creeping ive bombed those trails in AZ the Yoks are legit

Could you please tell me what the the ko2 raptor tires is called exactly or how to find them?

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good Q. They are lighter than regular KO2 but that’s the only difference I know of. They also seemed to be more of a domed tire vs flat across like the original KO2. My rep @ discount tire was the one who told me about them so you might try calling and asking for the “raptor specific” version? Hope that helps

Let some air out of the tires and they'll be even shorter than their advertised/sidewall height. You shouldn't measure tires with weight on them. They aren't loosing circumference just because they have weight on them. Measure them off the vehicle or from front to back.

What does the width of your tires measure out to? I think I run 28-30 psi on the street on 17x9 wheels and they only look 11-11.5 wide.

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

On mine the tread block measures about 10 1/4” wide + the sidewall tread and bow add an additional 1” on either side for a total width of 12 1/4”.

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

I also run 34psi on road. Curious how long you’ve been running 30 and have you noticed any uneven tread wear at that psi?

@markcaruana2697

2 жыл бұрын

@@4XTRAIL I chalk tested them, that's how I got to that pressure and they were wearing even but I switched to my winter wheels and tires on.

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

@@markcaruana2697 that’s great to know, thanks!

Yep, not all 37s are 37s. My Cooper SST PROS in 37 are taller than my buddies 37 Toyo Open County MT

I'm surprised you didn't step up to the 38's Pat's.

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Almost went for the 38” ridge grapplers! I like the 12.5” width and the 38 pats are 13” wide.

@jasonnewton7267

2 жыл бұрын

@@4XTRAIL I can't remember if you talked about it or not but, what is your brake and steering setup? If stock, are you having any issues running this setup and added weight of your overlanding gear?

What tint % did you go with?

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

I told them to match the back. I don’t recall the percentage off hand!

You were on 4.88s open on your d30 right? And LSD in your d44 in the rear?

@4XTRAIL

10 ай бұрын

Correct except I have a helical diff in the rear which acts like a posi once one tire begins slipping.

@josuemartinezmtz

22 күн бұрын

@@4XTRAILim on 4.56 with 37s nittos on a Dana 30 sleeve gusset and heavy duty ball joints You think it’s worth upgrading to 4.88 (would it be a difference) or go to 5.13?

It's hard to keep track of all of these stats and numbers as you read it off your phone. Perhaps some screen shots of a spreadsheet would be more discernable.

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the suggestion! Will keep in mind for future videos.

Another reason the BFGs are relatively lighter (especially the KO2) is because their new tread depth is a lot less than competitors. This translates to a much shorter life span while still costing the same or more $. #pass

@4XTRAIL

Жыл бұрын

Interesting! Thanks for the info

@johncarter9054

Жыл бұрын

I agree about the Ko2s Their tread depth sucks. Mine did last 3 years however, but because the tread depth was so low to begin with they did kinda poorly in mud from the get go. They also measured out at 35 and a half, not 37 in tall. Was real disappointed about that, but when you spend that kinda $ you run them all out be4 replacing them.

I'm shocked you didn't read the specs before you bought them . 5 to 10 lbs is nothing to a 5000lb vehicle. I went with the BAJA BOSS A/T Best tire I've ever owned

@4XTRAIL

10 ай бұрын

Heard good things about the Baja Boss ATs! Weight is crucial to certain components on weaker stock axles such as the D30 when you’re running such a large tire. The weight difference compounds when you hit pot holes, etc. thanks for the comment!

The dana 30 is a good axle. If you're trying to do what you see all of these hardcore offroaders on KZread doing, you are going to break it sooner than later.

@4XTRAIL

2 жыл бұрын

Word 🤙🏼