It always sucks hearing people (or myself) love the sound of one headphone, but prefer a different one simply because the one they actually like isn't comfortable. I really think headphone companies need to START with comfort and then figure out the acoustics. It doesn't matter how good it sounds if I can't/don't want to wear it.

@musicxxa6678

Жыл бұрын

But everyone have different head and comfort standards so every design has it's users.

@HipsterOctagon

Жыл бұрын

Makes me wonder if it would be possible to achieve near identical sound while having a few different band and ear cup options so people can ideally pick the sound with the comfort they want.

@jcap8391

Жыл бұрын

@@musicxxa6678 There are straight up uncomfortable headphones though. I've seen several high end headphones reviewed by a lot of people and they main gripes are always comfort. I heard people with small heads say the 900 pro x were most comfortable headphones they have tried but clamp force might be too much for bigger heads. I agree they are amazing and I have a huge head. It's usually universal when it comes to comfortable and uncomfortable headphones

@0megalul309

Жыл бұрын

Grado left the chat

@jcap8391

Жыл бұрын

@@0megalul309 I've seen the way grados are made. Their owner is hard pressed to change anything about any of their headphones. Personally I would love to see them do a good affordable over ear but I probably won't ever see it

I think we should have more videos like this... this is fun

@ThankYou_AV

Жыл бұрын

yeah this is fun. thanks :)

@LoneBeastYT

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the novelty would wear off, they won't be "beginners" anymore but rather they would be amateurs (aka someone who has listened long enough to make an educated review) Maybe if the cast of people were say other youtubers that aren't headphone related with collabs this would be sick

Cool to hear non-audiophile's opinions on these, Josh. Gives a good indication as to how the general public perceives sound and what they consider to be "good". Very interesting video!

@rhythimrt9970

Жыл бұрын

yeah but he doesn't note what songs/genres/etc were used to test these. That means its useless information with no reference point

@colingordon0986

Жыл бұрын

What’s the definition of audiophile? If you been listening to music for 20 years our more would you consider yourself an audiophile lol

@rhythimrt9970

Жыл бұрын

@@colingordon0986 The concept of the "Audiophile" is a person obsessed with the most true sound quality to real life. Imho they're a bit silly though because most of these cans they recommend have bad imaging and innacurate soundstages resulting from weird tunings trying to trick your ear. In which case I'd personally believe accuracy to a stereo image (where objects are perceived to be around you) should be a top priority, so the common audiophiles here are astray from the real goal since music has no way of testing the accuracy of perception of sounds (no visual confirmation as to where they should be and non-binaurally recorded tracks) and they've never bothered to truly test it

Your brother's not on the video this time because he became an audiophile after trying those Arya's? 😅

@PhoggHawk

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps he became too sufficiently indoctrinated in audiophila to participate this time 😉

It would be interesting to just put a range of headphones and just let them pick thier own and see what they picked budget, middle of road or high end without knowing anything about them.

@burns0100

Жыл бұрын

$50, $200, $500 and $1000+ headphones and don't tell them anything about them.

I bought the HD518 brand new in 2012, so I had them for 10 years now. And I can tell you - Sennheisers won't break... even if you drop them (repeatedly), despite the cheap-ish plastic. I upgraded to the HD560s recently and was blown away by how much clearer the sound is. Vocals on these are fantastic. Adele's Skyfall almost got a tear out of me.

@PurpleStormProductions

Жыл бұрын

Skyfall sounds amazing on my HD560S. Most songs do honestly, they’re so well rounded and being out details that I didn’t hear before on previous headphones and bring more depth. There’s a song called Dirge for November by the metal band Opeth, the beginning of the song is a great tester for headphones imo, because the vocalist sounds like he’s right in your face, he’s singing right into the mic. The HD560S can image vocals and instruments so well it’s insane.

@mariozenarju6461

Жыл бұрын

Evanescence's Synthesis album definitely has the bestest vocals recorded by modern standards. James LaBrie's Elements of Persuasion is *the* album to break the "loud = distorted" stereotype. Enjoy!

@TheCoheedIndeed

Жыл бұрын

Plastic gets a bad rap when it comes to electronics it is so much more durable if it's used properly it's light it's flexible etc

@burns0100

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCoheedIndeed There is cheap plastic and expensive plastic. You can tell the difference in a side by side comparison but it's harder to tell just in a test like this with other designs and metal bands. Though from experience I know metal is more likely to warp out of shape or snap while plastic has a scary amount of flexibility and resilience.

@Slavolko

Жыл бұрын

I have creaking problems with my HD600, but it hasn't broke yet throughout the numerous drops it's been through.

This video was great! Gives us non-audiophiles, who still appreciate good audio, an idea of what to expect, even though it all comes down to personal preference.

Your family/ friends are so SWEET!!! Great vid!! Goes to show how much each individual's preferences vary.

Even though Sennheiser's feel least durable , it will probably last longer than other 2.

@JoshuaValour

Жыл бұрын

ikr

@kato2395

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaValour no cap, based

@acspicer

Жыл бұрын

I think people underestimate how durable plastic can be.

This reinforces the fact that no matter how you rate something, personal biases always play a part to your final view of a product 😉👍🤯😇.

Really loved this video, awesome topic done justice by your family, and your editing!

Just jumping in to say great production values in this video, looks way better than it should, lol. Great work and good idea with the topic

Fantastic audio / visual editing! 👍🎶😉

would love to see audiophiles blind test various headphones/dac/amp combos, the headphones might be a bit easier to tell due to feel but the dac/amp would be interesting to see if they can tell the difference

@ryang8461

Жыл бұрын

yea that would be cool but, I don't think they will do it because there's probably a chance of them embarrassing themselves in the chance of them getting something wrong. it'll be pretty funny if they bring in someone who swears they can tell the difference between a 5k dac/amp and a 100 buck one and somehow cant tell the difference

@Karim-ik5ij

Жыл бұрын

@@ryang8461 yup, experienced "audiophiles" can't really tell the difference between high and low end DACs and AMPs that are volume matched.

This was Great!!! I loved how they differed in their responses. More proof that what sounds good to You is what really matters. Great Job Family!!!

Wish you included 'ultra budget' headphones like the Philips SHP9500's and some Koss headphones Crossing fingers for part III 😏

@houseofaction

Жыл бұрын

nothing over $50 is a budget headphone

@pmdthewizard

Жыл бұрын

@@houseofaction agree i do think the same btw

@pmdthewizard

Жыл бұрын

@@houseofaction agree i do think the same btw

This is a great series! You should really continue it. Next time do one where you pit the best under $100 headphone against the best $250-350 headphone against the best $500-700 headphone against the best $1000-1500 headphone. Eventually however, you are going to have to start using people other than your family members since now they might be getting too knowledgable.....

Lovely to see their perspectives, and what a time that we get 3 such incredible budget offerings from some major brands. I'd be ecstatic with any of these for sound quality. I love the look of the Hifiman but since open-back tends to be an at-home experience it's not that important so all are good choices. I'm looking at a nice deal on a pair of Philips X2HR, not X3, for my own budget open-backs to add to my collection.

What a fun follow up! Thanks, Josh.

Really cool vid, enjoyed it , thank you. So, what songs did the fam listen to?

Love these types of videos. Shout out to the family.

I would agree that, soundwise, the HD 560 hits way above $200 in overall quality so it's interesting to see that folks who don't know the price believed that too. Haven't heard the other two yet.

That nice old guy reminds me of my great grandfather. It's nice to see how our 'regular' headphones seem to other people who aren't in the community.

This is my favorite series. You should have them do iems next.

I love this series, really gives a unique take.

I really liked this video. It's always nice to see the perspectives of the average person (people) compared to those who are "in the know".

Wish you would have added in the AKG 361 from your budget list. This truly proves that listening is truly subjective.

@trevor245

Жыл бұрын

if anything it proves that while there is subjective parts to the listening experience there is still an overall quality that can and will be noticed even by a novice.

10:10 "Well that's good.. so you won't miss this one" 😂

I think it would be intresting if you allowed them to pick there own song and first listen to it on there standard set up or generic headphone then get there impressions of hi-fi headphones. Then show them a song of your choice to demonstrate the power or capabilities of the hi-fi headphones vs generic.

@mydogskips2

11 ай бұрын

*their I know they all sound the same, but the words there, their, and they're, all have different meanings. P.S. They're called homophones, you should look into it. ; )

Just got the Hifiman 400se and it's such a nice listening experience in comparison to the Dt990 i had before :)

@sheanreal

Жыл бұрын

How about the dt770? Can someone help me what to choose especially between k361 and k371

@acousticmuse

Жыл бұрын

5:35 .. I tend to agree with her. It's really nice at the 'right' volume.

@SugaFree2387

Жыл бұрын

@@sheanreal DT 770 80ohm not the 250ohm, is probably the best Closed back for the money you can buy. Great detail, seperation, soundstage (For a closed back), imaging is top notch.

@Whires

Жыл бұрын

@@SugaFree2387 also siblance

@SugaFree2387

Жыл бұрын

@@Whires Goes away when the pads flatten a bit

That was good timing. Once they learned they could afford em the EXCITEMENT on some faces were pure joy.

I really liked your moms feedback. She explained herself really well.

man the edit is top notch here

great video man

My favourite type of videos... I like normal people reactions 👌🏿

Great fam, awesome video!

The 560s is at 140ish new on amaz right now, that is a awesome deal for such a big performer. I would like to see how the new Schiit Modi (3E) with (Vali 2++) would pair with the 560s /6xx compared to other under $500 builds. Thanks!

would be nice to hear their opinions on beats bose apple headphone and compare them to low-high emd headphones

I've bought the hd560s and think they are so nice! I was wondering which sennheiser headphone would be a great update compared to them?

Not sure why but you dad is just my favorite person on your whole channel lol just give us more of him. Just seems super chill and fun to hang with.

Nice. We like this type of videos the most.

If you had me on for my first hifi experience, I feel like I would have been crying "they're all so beautiful!" 😭

It's so funny how they are all confident that they picked up on a sound quality difference between these and the higher end models. Most people wouldn't be able to tell.

Great video!

Joshua, can you look at the new Meze Audio 109 Pro headphones?

I think I might purchase the Hifiman Arya Stealth Headset Magnet Edition ( $1000) , looks and sounds amazing, currently I have Sennheiser HD660s and I love these things alot. Gaming / music and watching streams or movies are so immersive

I have a feeling there's going to be another one of these in the near future; I would've let them keep the cans they like (unless they're review units then this is understandable)

Compare to focal listen pro ? Please make a review or comparaison 🤘

Could you maybe review the Topping L30 II? Seems like a very good value amp which is also measured extremely good.

@TheKillerind

Жыл бұрын

I own the Topping E30ii + L30ii stack. Edition XS and SHP9500. Gets the job done I guess. Not much else to say about it.

Keep tormenting them! Love these videos Josh, keep it up

Great review! also, does your mom have high blood pressure? broken eye capillaries can be a sign of that..

This is such a good idea!

Loved those video

One factor here is hearing loss as we age. Maybe one teenager, one 40 year old, one 60-75 year old. Would be interesting to see the differences in ear age preference….with headphones of similar sensitivity/ohms.

Can you do a video on desktop speaker amplifiers? There aren't many on youtube

So you won't miss this one? 😂

If you or anybody can recommend a replacement headphone cable for my new Sundaras, what would you suggest? Reasonably priced as I'm on a VA budget.

Is the redhair your sister? She is BRUTAL lmao 😂 It was borderline comedy. More of these, these are my favourite videos 😊

What songs do you use for this comparison.

"When (the volume) got too high, it felt like the music was really loud" ~ Josh's sis

@kato2395

Жыл бұрын

I mean for some open backs, the less shouty ones even at loud volumes it won't be uncomfortable according to my experience, more details from the music will come out without it sounding uncomfortable.

660s, sundara and 1990 gotta be the next video

Given for best price with good sound quality and good comfort and quality made of material kinda suite most of the people nowadays that love listen to song of music is a 👍

I'm pleasantly surprised: They described the sound better than other reviewers with the generic: "Bass was punchy and doesn't bleed into the mids, mids and vocals were loud and clear, and the highs were detailed and had a lot of clarity..." The descriptions were at least more helpful.

@therealwhite

Жыл бұрын

It gets so boring so quickly. I love reading people's reviews on Amazon because there's so much personality in the descriptions, but in typical audiophile land it's just exactly what you described...

Good vid!

You should give us a list of the songs played so we can think about our own headphones XD

Could you do a test to see if they can hear any difference between listening to music directly from a phone/laptop, then using an external dac?

@Ray-bn7hr

Жыл бұрын

There is quite a big difference. Try any dac yourself.

@sashabagdasarow497

11 ай бұрын

Depends on the headphones honestly. A lot will benefit from a DAC, but it wouldn't be night and day difference.

Loved the mom :) She has a nice laugh.

“So you won’t miss this one” 😂

Which is better between the 560S & 58X since they are almost the same price? Sennheiser's line-up sometimes just confuses my brain, HD560S, 559, 569, 650 660S, etc!? Not including the Drop 58X & 6XX I've been eyeing the 58X for sometime now & will hopefully get one this year!

@alexp3577

Жыл бұрын

I suggest getting 560s instead of 58x. I’ve switched from 660s to 560s and never had any regrets. On 660s the earpads were wearing down too fast(it was affecting the sound) and are very expensive to replace. I’m sure the 58x will have the same problem since they use the same earpads. Also 560s sounds better, from what I’ve heard of 58x, but this one is very subjective.

@Isaac_L..

Жыл бұрын

The 58X sounds very warm and like your head is the microphone, it's an extremely inoffensive sound signature, and what I would want if listening for music for say 8 hours straight because there is zero listening fatigue. The 560S will sound alot flatter and more clinical. The detail in the music will be a lot more pronounced and it will sound a bit further out from your ear (like being in a small room with the music). For most things I would prefer the 560S but if your really a fan of that warmer sound signature, the 58X can be great.

That guy looking like a super chill Louis Litt

i love how the title of this video implies that audio nerds are not normal people

Love this

We should see more of this kind of thing. I wonder how it would go if we told them to assume that all of the headphones are the same price. It would also be good if another $50 and $150 headphones were thrown in.

I like these types of videos.

Please include the songs tested.

At the end you should have included a high end headphone to give them an immediate point of reference.

So many good budget options nowadays it's a fantastic time to get into , audiophilia?? 😂 to be an audiophile.

now do the dirt-cheap ones like porta pros, 9500 etc lmao

I’d say this is a more entertaining vid, but I think it’d help us viewers grasp what it’s like for these beginners or non-audiophiles and what their experience is like if the songs were listed that were used for this social experiment. Peoples libraries are vastly different.

Why do people keep saying plastics aren't durable? My old Philips headphones are more than 10 years old, but the plastics are still fine, almost as shiny as new. The decrepit part is the pleather xD.

Should have made them try the kph30i from koss

The good thing with family, you can always count on them for free help when you need it and more so when you need it most 🥰🥰💪

comfort is underrated in general, i will give up great sounding headphones if i cant wear them and keep not great sounding ones just because i can use them

@sashabagdasarow497

11 ай бұрын

I'm a short-burst guy, so whatever I do, I do for short periods of time but intensely. If headphones are great sounding but I can't wear them more than 1h, ok, no probs for me!

I always felt the X3 is underrated, especially since the price has finally settled to about the right value. People need to stop comparing it to the X2HR--they are just different animals all together.

can't wait to try an expensive headphones in the thousand(s) range and compare with the one I have now ($300) :D

Wish we got their reaction the the supposed price reveal.

A budget headphone for me would be the Philips 9500! XD

"so you won't miss this one"... took me laughing

I remember Joshua once saying that the Philips x3 sounds weird.😆

@2006tonylondon

Жыл бұрын

Your comment is my prize👻

Yes! Finally!

David Schwimmer's dad knows what's up

The older guy looks EXACTLY like Louis from Suits but older.

Sennheiser. No contest

his father is like a old audiophile man who worked at a audio factory. i dont know why but its just my feel.😆

@sashabagdasarow497

11 ай бұрын

Oh, I thought it's his grandpa! I think father appeared in another video

Been using he400se for a few months.. Now I have to go get some expensive ones..😅😅

@Ivannbeats

Жыл бұрын

I would suggest you get the Sundara, not kidney disappearing-ly expensive but with great sound

old guy feels like he was tryna sell me on snake oil gear lol

my son in law is an awesome jazz fusion guitar player and is probably considered an audiophile , what ever that is . he has some very expensive headphones close to a $1000 dollars . we were listening to some hendrix at my house and i handed him my $50 sony headphones . his immediate reaction was "wow" as he took them off to see the name of the headphones . so ,,,,,,,Hmm? ok audiophiles let's have the barrage of naseauting semantics dissecting that story .😂

Hi Josh

X3 technically a Phillips flagship headphone

Funny thing is their opinions are about the same as so called "experts"

@taimurjamil4790

Жыл бұрын

Funny thing is, I found the "Dad" to be pretty observant and spot-on..