I don't know who Biden's advisors are.. but having Biden doing 3 or 4 OTHER events THAT day, before this debate, is ridiculous & irresponsible for ANYONE!! Am I wrong? But is Ron Klain back in Biden's circle, advising him?? If he is, (after 'trash-talking' Biden) I'll be even more furious!!! I am so f-ing OVER the deflection of EVERYTHING tRump, is more than nauseating!!!! WTF!!!!!!

@earthsystem

2 күн бұрын

I agree, his team didn’t give him the rest and hydration and cough drop he needed. Never seen Biden like this. It’s too late now, but somebody is a saboteur in his team .

@BCE-111

2 күн бұрын

Thought about this too. Were those other events more important than resting up for the debate? Of course not.

@gkniffen

2 күн бұрын

Wait, wait, wait ... Biden was doing other events THE DAY OF THE DEBATE?!? 😳

@user-zb7uh2ob1r

2 күн бұрын

​@gkniffen , unbelievable! I ASSUMED Biden would at least take a day of rest before that over-hyped, pointless, too late at night TV opp. Can't believe his people scheduled other stuff that day. How many of us can work all day and then do a major event at what is many people's bed time. I too felt so bad after the debate I couldn't sleep even though I normally go to bed around 9. Now I'm mad that Biden was done this way. Definitely won't change my support for him.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

Did Biden have a full schedule Thursday? I didn't know that.

In December I will be 80 years old, my body is old my mind still works just fine. I have had occasion to tell my 53 yrs old daughter 'I'm old, I'm not stupid' don't discount Bidens' wisdom, the evil that is Trump et al is frightening.

@gerriperreault6905

2 күн бұрын

Ukraine and gaza evil, absence of any wisdom

@carolelayman2795

2 күн бұрын

Good for you. Keep on thinking Pauline!

@barbarajolley6578

2 күн бұрын

Amen. You don't replace the good employee who got sick with the one you fired for his abysmal performance and trying to destroy your institution because he was angry that he got fired....(to use one analogy...there are numerous).

@rd264

Күн бұрын

I'm voting for cornel west or jill stein - they arent senile yet.

@barbarajolley6578

Күн бұрын

@@rd264 Tell me you are voting for Trump without telling me you are voting for Trump.

If Biden advisors had told us he was sick but refused to cancel, then have Biden tell us yes, he’s sick, not at his best, but loves American democracy more than life so he’s here, it would have changed the whole trajectory.

@PleaseDontEatAnimals

2 күн бұрын

Good point!

@mvann5

2 күн бұрын

Yes, you have to wonder who his advisors are letting him go out like that! Seems he is getting really bad advice.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

I don't know that we will ever hear the story of what happened behind the scenes, but the President ought to be able to make these common sense decisions himself - like don't do other events the day of a relatively late-night debate.

@carolinemaybe

2 күн бұрын

Something has to have happened. Maybe cold n flu tabs? Don’t know but something went terribly wrong.

@anamericaninamericavotesblue

2 күн бұрын

My advisors never take responsibility.

Al, you are seriously missed by the few Americans who are aware that these are precarious days. Come back.

@cent20buck71

2 күн бұрын

OMG Yes! We really need him.

@barneshomestead1240

Күн бұрын

Al...DON'T

The real issue is who would replace Biden… capturing independent voter’s (like myself) is the main goal to the presidency. I’ve never voted for a Republican anything. As I always said… voting Republican is like asking someone to beat you.

@browneyedgirl6050

2 күн бұрын

I would hope that making the focus an anti Trump message would be more persuasive. It probably won't happen since all of the things haven't moved the needle. But maybe the money mongers would see that and understand the consequences of an authoritative regime and the damage it would do to the country.

al, i am saddened and upset - i spent the entire trump "presidency", stressed and nauseated. i can not face 4 years of him again. maybe it's time to leave the land of my birth.

Not just 70 million people watched the debate. Social media is and will continue to magnify the debate until election night.

@janetkriegl6720

Күн бұрын

The election in France is being won in real time, by the far right's presently main platform, TIK-TOK. Actually, China is winning. Have always dreaded this 'Animal Farm' Orwellian dystopia manifesting. But here we are.

A common sense friend said "Well, he's past 80. What do people expect?" The democratic party should have never put themselves in this position. He should have served one term and stepped aside. Imagine how a Gavin Newsom would have wiped the floor with Trumps lies....

@gheller2261

Күн бұрын

Newsom would be the option. But just wait, if it gets to that, trust me, forces from both the radical left and the center will make sure it doesn't happen.

@bethmoseley1244

Күн бұрын

I live in San Francisco. Gavin Newsom would be a terrible choice for president. Lots of baggage... empty suit.

@sticklerforchange

Күн бұрын

@@bethmoseley1244 He may have a lot of baggage, which would have harmed him in normal times, but if he is up against Trump, Newsom's baggage will look like a coin purse.

A Republican Senate and House is the real nightmare. 😮

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

The whole effing thing is a nightmare.

@cathyhirsch7490

Күн бұрын

Trump in the White House is the nightmare. The people like Stephen Miller who would be running the country is the nightmare.

If 45's presidency was as fabulous as he claims,why was he trounced in the 2020 bid for reelection?

@nicknaque2261

2 күн бұрын

The Former Guy: Convicted Felon, never won the popular vote for POTUS. Millions more people voted against him in 2016 as well as in 2020. Gerrymandering and the outdated Electoral College put him in the White House.

@lindashapanka6229

Күн бұрын

Don’t you remember the election was stolen 😂🤣😂

@chickenfishhybrid44

Күн бұрын

Trounced? I think it was closer than you think.

@Al : You don't 'replace Biden': You let Biden choose a worthy Champion to carry on with the torch. You make the Dem Congress a real Triumph, to celebrate Joe Biden of Scranton's long and outstanding service to the State and his party! He should go out for glory, with his arm around the shoulders of the next real people's champion. As an outside observer who started out just wanting to know more about the US system, now that communication is so easy, I have been hooked on the ongoing drama for some years, and, I would say, that one of the best possible people to hand on the torch to, would be the highly qualified, passionate, and charismatic, Jamie Raskin. He has the glory of youth, to outshine the Trump glamour that has his followers enthralled. He can break the spell: and Biden can be there as President Emeritus adviser, just as usefully as he is in the hot seat himself. He would benefit from not having to push so hard to turn out when he is not at his best. The public and the world at large need have no misgivings about disasters that might arise in the next four years due to inevitable declining health with age. A shiny new leader would be just the shot in the arm the jaded and scared electorate needs right now. What have you got to lose? Everything! If you get this wrong through baseless pride of party. Think about it. Good luck.

@tallSycamore

2 күн бұрын

Raskin would be my choice too.

@robertacomstock3655

2 күн бұрын

Raskin says he won't. He survived cancer but I'm sure it was an energy drain. I would vote fore Raskin, but can't count on my neighbors to be mature enough to elect him. Surveys say antisemitism is up.

@robertadaversa2503

2 күн бұрын

Seems like there is only upside to Biden stepping down. Anyone who is planning to vote for Biden, would vote for any Democrat... except maybe Harris.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

and who might that be?

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

@@tallSycamore Raskin's a good man.

US wealth and its treatment of the poor is disgusting.

@Alexaalexa701

2 күн бұрын

Ongoing for SEVERAL DECADES.

@sumiland6445

2 күн бұрын

Well, we have our problems, that's for sure. I guarantee you that the poor in the USA has far more than the poor in most every other country. We can absolutely do better, tho, that's for sure!

@user-qu6mb2uk4q

2 күн бұрын

@@sumiland6445 My point was that criminalising people for being poor is disgusting...sorry if I didn't get it right in the comment

@sumiland6445

2 күн бұрын

@@user-qu6mb2uk4q agree! If we worked together at the neighborhood level, I bet we could eliminate homelessness by keeping our neighbors from loosing their homes in the first place. 🥺 Americans are the most blessed people on the planet and yet we can't help our neighbors?

@47ness5

2 күн бұрын

Punishing poor people for the crime of being poor (and rewarding rich people for the virtue of being rich) is very much what this court has decided.

I saw that President Biden also had 3 other events that day . That's a mistake they made as a team, surely, what was so important it couldn't have been rescheduled, since he wasn't feeling well..

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

Where did you see that? Do you think it was real/true or just some kind of made up excuse? Even if that was true it makes it look like Biden is just being rolled around from event to event and has no good judgement to say no? This makes me think of the last term of Reagan - which was not even as bad - and the negativity and anger that drew from the Democrats and affected his legacy and memory. Biden is much worse.

@dreamcoyote

2 күн бұрын

I've tried looking for that too and haven't found anything, let alone a source. It's possible they weren't public events. All I did find was that his staff tries to schedule things between 10am and 4pm when he's at his best. Obviously the state of the union was later than that and he did fine, but he also used a teleprompter most of the time. He did well off of it but.. not at the debate.

@linaanne3101

2 күн бұрын

I agree with Catz...Why on earth did the Biden Team have Joe do 3 other events just before that Debate? ...Joe should have been resting that day--- not doing 3 events that same day.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

@@dreamcoyote Biden reminded me of Capt. Queeg in the Caine Mutiny going kind of crazy and losing his mind. The way for every question he kept saying ... Number 1 ... Number 2 ... he sounded like a broken robot. The more I think about it, the more he needs to go. I remember arguing against him 4 years ago because of this. I voted for him, but also expected he would be a one term President. He lied about that. I detest Trump, but all the things Biden throws at Trump - lying and selfishness ... can be turned back on him now because of his egomania.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

@@linaanne3101 If Biden can be pushed around by his staff to do things that he should have known he cannot do - that is on him. That's why he is President and the staff is he staff.

Jake and Dana are lightweights.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

I wonder what they were thinking. Oh, we'd better not offend Trump because the polling says he is going to win, and if we are mean to him he'll come after us next term?

@dreamcoyote

2 күн бұрын

@@justgivemethetruth I suspect they pre-planned exactly how they would proceed. Then knew there is basically one debate between these two. Trump supporters hate them. If they fact check Trump etc, then that could show bias, and people iffy about Trump but potential Trump voters might just say the whole thing was skewed. They set a strict process and it was Biden's to win.. and he didn't.

@dbarker7794

2 күн бұрын

They are stooges. Highly paid stooges.

@rickved

Күн бұрын

They are dimwit failures.

@quietreason8679

Күн бұрын

@@justgivemethetruth They were thinking that this was a debate between Trump and Biden, not between Trump and CNN. They had announced beforehand that they weren't going to fact-check either candidate, so the onus was on Biden to counter Trump's lies. They probably had no idea that Biden would fail this hard.

Al, it would be great to see you on the ticket. Of course I know this would not happen. But if you ever want to run for the Senate again, please do. I could not vote for your because I am from out of state. I would, however, contribute to your campaign. It was so sad when you so nobly resigned after that stupid sophomoric picture that was taken as a joke came to light. Your resignation was such an honorable Democrat thing to do. Even as a I strong feminist, I still can’t understand why some Democrats called for your resignation - thanks and good riddance to Krysten Sinema. You were one of the most cogent, intelligent, and effective members of the Senate. I love your podcast - never stop keeping your voice out there.

No choice: Fascist Authoritarian Dictator Wabna be Monarch OR Experienced Constitutional man of Honor

Al and Norm should go on a stadium tour with Mark Elias and Dahlia Lithwick to explain the dangers of a second Trump administration.

@gerriperreault6905

2 күн бұрын

If Biden runs, his legacy will be Trump's win. That was NOT just a cold or being tired or a gaffe..

@gerriperreault6905

2 күн бұрын

"Full" 60 min. No conditions? No notes?

@gheller2261

Күн бұрын

The only ones who will go to see them would be people who already agree with them.

@rd264

Күн бұрын

b/c the MSM would never bother to have them on

@eshel1954

Күн бұрын

@@gheller2261 you underestimate independent voters.

Add Rick Wilson to the campaign team.

Thanks, Al, I agree Kamala is not the answer, she would never beat Trump!!!!!

@cassandratq9301

2 күн бұрын

💯% Please see my comments elsewhere. HARRIS must be ditched as VP nominee. It solves everything.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

It’s not entirely her fault but people don’t like her.

@brianlooksaround6125

2 күн бұрын

It would help for her to step down and be replaced by Newsom or Raskin.

@wendygerrish4964

Күн бұрын

Kamala has a weak voice. She doesnt connect with people. Hillary didnt either but for different reasons. Now, you put Stormy Daniels in there and she'd out perform them all. Haha

@jillfeatherman5523

Күн бұрын

@@brianlooksaround6125You want the first black woman VP to step aside for another white man?

Remember, it was RBG staying on the court instead of retiring that has brought us the nightmare Supreme Court we now have.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

Good point.

@SnooperSwizzle0728

2 күн бұрын

Exactly

@billmartin1338

2 күн бұрын

Obama was denied a Supreme Court appointment at the end of his term. Trump filled it. Then at the end of trump's term he was 'given' another appointment by Mitch Mcconnell. That was the problem.

@blueberry-ri7eb

Күн бұрын

It would not have made a difference. 5-4 is still a maga win. Expand the court to 13.

@chickenfishhybrid44

Күн бұрын

Sounds a bit like Biden not stepping aside. I see a pattern with boomer Democrats or politicians in general

Chevron is a power grab.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

Is there anything left in this country that has not been grabbed?

@blueberry-ri7eb

Күн бұрын

And a dangerous one for Americans

@rd264

Күн бұрын

thats false. I doubt you have a clue about it. If Chevron is overturned EPA wont be able to evaluate and develop regulations for pollution control unless the statute upfront specifies and mandates the control requirements for all sources.

I'm Sticking with JOE, Not the psycho!

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

Stick with a democrat who can win!

@brianlooksaround6125

2 күн бұрын

The vote of anyone listening to this podcast is not in question. The few as yet undecided voters are in question. These people will decide the election and that is the problem.

I've come to realize that Americans just want to be entertained. they don't really care about substance. I'm not sure what y'all think a debate is but it's not supposed to be exciting. I thought Biden did an okay job. I kind of think he acted frustrated. but then again who wouldn't be. nobody wants to stand next to a lying carnival Barker and have to try to refute the obvious. he was quiet and he looked tired but I appreciate that because he's actually working for us and not golfing. you know it's funny, we hold Biden to such a high standard that when he stutters and stammers and is obviously tired that somehow that's just so horrible but apparently mango Mussolini up there on that stage just telling lie after lie after lie is perfectly fine. I'm really disappointed in my fellow Americans.

@sumiland6445

2 күн бұрын

I think many Americans and people around the world see it the way you do. I know I did. I thought President Biden held it together well, standing next to the firehose of lies. CNN pre-recorded and edited it before airing so we saw exactly what CNN wanted us to see.

@gailjordan9250

2 күн бұрын

❤

@sonjakracke8304

2 күн бұрын

DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Alexaalexa701

2 күн бұрын

*We hold Biden to...

@phemykadri9487

2 күн бұрын

I take your point about the substance of the debate. However, I think it’s unfair to put the burden of being understanding on Americans. Joe Biden is the President, he has unlimited resources and a week to prepare. He should have done better. I’m sorry but we all talk about looking the part, he didn’t. I doubt that most people will hire someone who comes or appears unprepared for a job interview regardless of the level of competence. The standards shouldn’t be lower for our Politicians. Having said that, the republicans should be equally concerned that they have a candidate who has no policy agenda and just lies about everything. In any case, America deserves better.

Norm's ideas 💡 are brilliant. The Biden people or the new candidate's people need to meet with Norm immediately. It's time for the former Trump officials to step up collectively and go public in a unified manner.

@margaretcameron1275

2 күн бұрын

@melissawilliamson8871 I totally agree with you!! Thank you Al and Norm.The best post debate conversation I've listened to

@johnf8122

2 күн бұрын

Agree Norm is always a great listen, but disagree on the uniting behind Kamala Harris idea. Not because she isn't competent, it's she has no real appeal as a candidate. Biden selected her because of his promise to select a woman as Vice-President back in 2020. She was selected for various reasons, including her closeness to his deceased son Beau. However, I think she was far from the strongest candidate for the job. Biden already had the African-American vote, and she probably cost him a few percentage points lost in African American males due to her prosecutorial background. Her own campaign fizzled and never made it to primaries. She had no real constituency.

@johnf8122

2 күн бұрын

The former Biden officials' idea is a great one, though.

@rd264

Күн бұрын

looks like Bidens staff are worthless. I didnt see any real WH plan for the Debate.

He should be out doing interviews everywhere including Fox News and everywhere. Hiding is no longer an option for him

@cmPe6an

2 күн бұрын

That's the problem right? He can't.

@phemykadri9487

2 күн бұрын

@@cmPe6an I really hope he can. Beyond concerns about whether he can win re-election, he needs to do it to assuage fears that he can even go on till Nov.

@cmPe6an

2 күн бұрын

​@@phemykadri9487 I know what you say is logical, but imagining him in a hostile interview on Fox or wherever...I need a drink lol

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, Ornstein's point about that was totally on point. If he does the interviews and blows it - he will be out. It was so embarassing to see Biden on stage looking like a zombie after the debate and his wife firing up the crowd, and Joe looking around like he did not know what was going on. Awful and disgusting.

@jaelo2314

2 күн бұрын

I've turned off every post that brings out the piranhas. What do you mean what do WE do? Are WE in the administration? Are WE going to call for his removal? NO, WE ARE NOT!! Faint on your couch and get over it. The debate was an embarrassing moment. It's not game 7 in the world series. If anything it's game 1. Let's quit trying to undo his accomplishments from one bruised finger. Al, stop piling the sh!t on, as Norm is explaining the actual facts in history.

I will vote for Biden even though he will lose by more than 30% in my State. This is my last election, I'm not maga or progressive so I'm out of politics.

Franken is the one who should be president. God forbid we put a brain in the oval office.

@MrRainrunner

2 күн бұрын

I was thinkin the same thing

@gheller2261

Күн бұрын

A Jewish man in the oval office? That was laughable before the "free Palestine" bs. Now you have people on the left who won't vote for a Democrat unless he pledges loyalty to radical Islamists. Up is down and down is up.

@rd264

Күн бұрын

he had a career going that way until he got hit.

@janetkriegl6720

Күн бұрын

Except he is Jewish. Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, maga cultists would NEVER allow for his Presidency. I'd rather he were kept alive, than President.

@user-xu6bv7yh2j

Күн бұрын

Franken speaks too slowly to beat Trump - he is SLOW

Biden needs to do a televised Town Hall with Kamala at his side, answering people's questions and showing that they really are a team working together. This lets Joe be spontaneous and think on his feet without the pressure of having to argue next to a lying bully and restrained to a one-minute response. This is how Joe is at his best: talking to people.

@smilingfox8978

Күн бұрын

Joe does not look good next to Kamala. She treats him like an old grandpa. Reaching arms out to help, a natural response, makes him look weak. Reinforcing what he says makes it look like his answers need clarification.

@chickenfishhybrid44

Күн бұрын

He wont

Al , your show was really discouraging and frightening. It was disappointing to hear about the Supreme Court recent rulings. I still think that Biden has a chance to win in November. You can't judge him because he didn't do well during his first debate. Second, there were a number of factors why I believe Biden didn't do so well. 1. Biden has been traveling, not stop with meetings in Israel, France. Attending memorials to honor our falling heroes and veterans who fought and sacrificed their life's for our Democracy. 2. Biden needs to fire his campaign manger and staff. They're are partly responsible for Biden not getting enough rest. They should of had the foresight and common sense to realize he was sick with a cold. The debate should of been canceled by Biden's campaign.. This was poor judgment and it backfire and Biden paid the price.

@thesimulation9651

2 күн бұрын

Yes it was political malpractice but firing the people who hid his decline does not improve his cognition

@dreamcoyote

2 күн бұрын

For people that were voting "for a ham sammich as long as it's not Trump", having one bad debate won't change that (much). This wasn't a poor performance like other bad debates and the question of his aging won't improve despite any other performances. This one reinforced their argument that he's too old and can't get do the job. I get what he was trying to say, know about the stutter, have experienced full dementia with elderly family. I'm NOT the anti-Biden guy. Most people don't follow politics like we do, won't even see the changes made/better performances, and their votes are needed for him to win.

@kathrynhohmann5697

2 күн бұрын

This is the elephant that is now out of the room, ​@@thesimulation9651...could not agree more

@phemykadri9487

2 күн бұрын

I think you’re missing the point here. It’s not enough for Biden to be a good President, he needs to show that he can continue doing the job. Performances like Thursday do not help those who doubt he can do it. One remedy is for him to be out more and do interviews in unfriendly outlets. Hiding is no longer a reasonable option if winning in 2024 is really important to him and all those who care about democracy

@sydgriffin7591

2 күн бұрын

​@@phemykadri9487 Agreed. The best way for him to salvage his reelection hope is to get out in public and show what he's got. If he doesn't have it, then decisions need to be made. Another Tr*mp presidency is too dangerous to allow.

Democracy cannot survive unbridled capitalism.

@rd264

Күн бұрын

Id rephrase it as: Capitalism cannot tolerate democracy.

His staff should be fired. They had him running around all day at events.

@bethmoseley1244

Күн бұрын

Fire his staff. Hire the Lincoln Project folks.

@user-xu6bv7yh2j

Күн бұрын

Biden should have said no and he should have taken a LONG nap - if he can't say no - wtf?

@chickenfishhybrid44

Күн бұрын

Have a source?

there's no good reason for trump to do a 2nd debate .... don't count on it ......

@MrRainrunner

2 күн бұрын

agreed. Why should he?

@wendygerrish4964

Күн бұрын

Agreed he is ahead no reason to gamble- which is exactly what Biden did. Duh.

If I was Biden, I would do weekly fireside chats because we are in a crisis and we’re about to go to Civil War. This is not funny. This is not a joke. This is a crisis. Every week, America should see its president.

This debate is being super- hyped up! In reality Biden was not all that bad! Yes, Biden is a senior citizen and he has only been trying to save modern civilization from WW3! Give our President a break!

@Alexaalexa701

2 күн бұрын

ABSOLUTELY AGREE. Your comment is too intelligent for most people in this gncrzythird-worldcountry offirst-worldcountriesto comprehend.

@cmPe6an

2 күн бұрын

Biden: Yea give me a...uh...gimme...

@rmzidann

2 күн бұрын

Wow. I guess having a neurodegenerative disease that progressively impairs your memory while in charge of the nuclear weapons is not worrisome to you. Ok!

@Linda-cat5

2 күн бұрын

Yes, and trump is a Senior Citizen as well, whose agenda is to destroy everything everyone else has done so he can put his stink on it!

@Linda-cat5

2 күн бұрын

@@rmzidannit scares me to death if trump’s rabid temperament would have his finger on the nuclear button is terrifying.

Thank you Al for not gaslighting us

Not a slam on the show, but this is not a great one. For a change.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

Why? I thought Ornstein was pretty good. I have no interest or affection for Franken after he dumped on Israel.

@moby2668

2 күн бұрын

I disagree, These conversations need to take place. It was a mistake to put someone forward who has clear cognitive decline, unable to communicate or defend positions. Ignoring the problem, pushing through, and only talking about how bad Trump is, only makes voters feel like they are being deceived by the DNC and Biden administration.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

@@moby2668 And he can’t remember if his mouth is open.

@wendygerrish4964

Күн бұрын

I've always enjoyed hearing Al's chatter.

@bethmoseley1244

Күн бұрын

Not great. I am surprised that Senator Franken and Mr. Ornstein are amongst the Democratic bedwetting. It was 90 damn minutes versus a lifetime of achievements. Get a damn grip.

Skipped the short, easy, softball question Superbowl interview, 123 million viewers. That was a red flag.

Will the story change if Merchan sentences Trump to Jail?

@wendygerrish4964

Күн бұрын

He can't now, although he does have the power to postpone sentencing until after the election.

The Democrats could draft Al Franken. Someone with a comedy background, an American Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Putin's worst nightmare.

Every single president since FDR had a weekly address to the American people, until Trump stopped it. Biden -- to my amazement -- failed to restore it. One would think that talking to the American people on a regular basis while thousands are dying during a pandemic would be the highest priority. My speculation is that giving an address EVERY Saturday would have revealed Biden's condition FAR sooner. Which also would have been a good thing.

@isko00011

Күн бұрын

If he's up to it he has to address the American people regularly from now on. If he's up to it and decides not to present himself regularly, nobody will believe him. He declined to run in 2016 because his son died & he was mourning so because of that I have accepted him saying he is up to 2 full terms. Now he has to win back my trust but I still think the debate was a tie, neither of them would have won an elementary school debate.

@yabits

Күн бұрын

@@isko00011 -- We both want what is BEST for our country.

Not since Uvalde have I been more disappointed. Trump just spewed his rally misinfo. This prep wasn't difficult.

I voted Biden in 2020. I am for small d democracy and capital D Democratic agenda, but this awful performance is hard to unsee. I agree a town hall is a good idea, but it appears he just can't do it. I am sure his inner circle has thought of this but know that he can only read off a prompter now. His campaign and people have put us all in a bad spot. No other way to put it.

@rd264

Күн бұрын

--------Im voting West or Stein

not only was it a disaster .. but what does it tell us about the team behind the curtain .?? and how they bungled the entire opportunity & process .. scheduling multiple events prior to the show .. feeding him facts & figures like a policy wonk .. with all the resources at their disposal to have such a colossal failure reflects so poorly on them knowing they have an old guy and behaving as if he's 20 years younger .. if they get this wrong what else will they fail at .. ??

@cassandratq9301

2 күн бұрын

Agree. But with regard to Biden running, he was forced to b/c his designated successor Harris is DEEPLY UNPOPULAR + CAN'T WIN FROM TOP OF TICKET. (HER NET UNFAVORABLES ARE HUGE.) Replace the VP nominee with somebody popular with Dems + Independents + the whole issue of Joe's health goes away.

Being pre-retired. (Old and out of work and not wealthy enough to retire) I don't know what day of the week it is anymore except for "Franken Day," formerly known as Sunday. Thanks Al. Also, we need serifs. I can't tell the difference between AI and Al.

How about a known quantity, someone who’s been on message his whole life. But the party would sooner descend into fascism then give Bernie a fair chance.

What about adding more justices to the court

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

Biden did not do that either.

@t.tenney3470

2 күн бұрын

We'll have to add many, many judges; based on the recent, ridiculous rulings.

@dreamcoyote

2 күн бұрын

For me, the problem with that is the Senate. More justices, more balance, until it isn't. It makes it harder to skew to one party, but if they get there, it takes a lot longer to bring it back into balance. Senate confirmation would need to be cleaned up. The Turtle's BS showed how faulty that is, and there's no guarantee the Senate isn't 50/50 or goes GOP. The DNC can, unlike the GOP, put forward actual competent centrist justices but if the GOP can just stall until they get to make the picks..

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

@@dreamcoyote True, but everything that has happened in recent years has really made clear how much our country has depended on both sides being cooperative and civil. The Republicans broke that when the center of the party moved to the deep south and fascist billionaires. I don't see a continuous smooth in-system way out of this.

@chickenfishhybrid44

Күн бұрын

Considering this has been talked about since at least FDR and has never been done.. should tell you something

Agree with blowing up Chevron Doctrine is a disaster. Re the Grant's Pass anti camping laws, you have to realize that billions of $$ have gone toward the homeless in Los Angeles and most will NOT go into beds offered. They fuel crime. It is a terrible situation. I do think we need mental institutions and rehab to open. It is a housing problem, but not JUST a housing problem. Very complex.

@justgivemethetruth

2 күн бұрын

These are ( sad to say ) useless messed up people who are liabilities and endless costs to society. Not all of them, but many of them. Some are people living in their cars who hold down jobs but just cannot afford to pay for housing that is outrageously expensive - and will not be coming down in price ever. So rephrasing the problem as - the country does not want to see or have to step over, or experience the crime or unpleasantness of these homeless people. I will never forget I had an interview in downtown SF, CA, and got there and parked on the street, and had to walk past a whole contingent of drugged out creeps lying on the sidewalk to get there. Then when I left and returned to my car the car just parked behind me had been broken into and the police were telling the lady who owned it there's nothing they can do. That was 10 years ago. Even putting them in camps is going to cost too much and will be a bonanza for corruption and abuse. This is mostly happening I think because the economic squeeze and defunding of the civil infrastructure. The decay of the family, institutions and morals - due to the abusive form of capitalism and no democracy in the last 30 years.

@sydgriffin7591

2 күн бұрын

It's a terrible problem, the literal fallout of decades of misguided socio-economic priorities. The obvious to me answer is housing, some kind of low cost, low maintenance, yet still monitored basic shelter with beds, bathrooms, and privacy. New York City used to have SRO hotels, Single Room Occupancy, that kept a lot of people off the street. They were not nice places but they served a function. Some sort of basic, cheap place to sleep and wash is what's needed. I hope something like that arises from this Grant's Pass ruling. My first thought however, is it will be a boon to the prison-industrial complex, and most likely lead to an increase in private corporate run jails.

@mvann5

Күн бұрын

@@sydgriffin7591 Agree with you... basic, functional housing with no frills. Here the city is building units at $600,000. Insane. They don't imprison most anyone, here, even criminals! That scares the middle class which is being reduced to nothing.

I wouldn't mind seeing Harris v Trump in debate.

@dawnoceanside7300

2 күн бұрын

She would kick his arse from one coast to the other 👍🤪🎇

@gkniffen

2 күн бұрын

Trump would love to debate and/or run against Harris. She's a non-starter. She never connected with voters and it was political malpractice to pull her off the trash heap and put her on the ticket when Biden's NUMBER ONE WEAKNESS was his age. If Joe had a running mate with any political skills whatsoever as his number two, he'd be in a MUCH better position right now. 🤷‍♂️

@dreamcoyote

2 күн бұрын

@@gkniffen I think the best option at the moment is for Harris to step down and Biden to name an excellent campaigner as a replacement. They should be more centrist-friendly (don't go for DNC base) and be able to pull in the numbers. The largest consensus among voters is that we don't want this matchup in the first place. Trump will pick a lump for a VP (can't give up the spotlight at all), so an impactful pick for DNC VP would have people thinking they will be POTUS soon(er) so vote that way. It would avoid the issues with the convention. Agreed, Harris can't pull in the numbers. She's fine as a person, but this isn't about her. I don't care if her political career ended tomorrow. After Al's show, I think the DNC should plan that out, have the talks, and schedule a town hall. If Biden does it again, replace Harris. If he knocks it out of the park (and he would have to), maybe he goes on. Either way, we know in a couple of weeks. A lot depends on superdelegates telling Harris it's not that she's a bad person, but she doesn't have the numbers and won't.

@cassandratq9301

2 күн бұрын

Harris's net unfavorables are HUGE! She can't win from top of ticket. Harris is the reason Joe was forced to run for 2nd term because SHE is currently his defacto successor and SHE CAN'T WIN! Swap out the VP candidate for somebody popular with Dems + Independents, then Biden's health will be a non-issue.

@moby2668

2 күн бұрын

She is not ideal but I think her youth alone paints a nice contrast to Trump.

The NyQuil vs. DayQuil hypothesis is plausible. At any rate, he acted very much like someone who had taken an older-generation antihistamine. Those drugs also have anticholinergic effects, which, in addition to reducing mucus (the desired effect) can cause dry mouth and cognitive impairment (some of the anti-dementia meds currently available are pro-cholinergic). Myself, I think he would have been better off canceling or dripping with snot.

@cassandratq9301

2 күн бұрын

Cancelling.

@vinista256

2 күн бұрын

@@cassandratq9301 is that a vote for Biden not having done the debate or a correction of my spelling? (If the latter, I’ll point out that I live in the U.S., where both spellings are accepted 😉.)

Makes me long for the old days when the party brokers picked the candidate instead of endless campaigns.

@chickenfishhybrid44

Күн бұрын

Increasingly it seems like more democracy is not always better

Love you, Al. You’re one of the good guys 🙋🏻‍♀️

@Repdem

Күн бұрын

I am very disappointed

@Repdem

Күн бұрын

I am very disappointed in Franken

"TrumpAConvictedFelon" enters dictionaries as a 21st Century noun....

No sense in wrestling in the mud as to how the Democratic Party got here but rather how to get out of the mess. This will take heads beyond Biden’s inner circle to figure out.

It can't be a Harris-Newsome ticket because the law says the president and vice president can't be from the same state.

Hoping for massive turnout in favor of Biden is not a viable strategy. Biden and Harris should stand aside together so that someone else can step forward and name their own VP. Although they would have only a few months to win over the electorate, just think of the spark it would give to an otherwise dull, awful election.

Something not one talking head has mentioned. The Democrat National "Committee" made the rules and they can change the rules. The committee can convene and change the rules and open up the convention. Does anyone believe that the committee "can't" change the rules?

Thank you Al for not making excuses nor pulling punches about Biden's performance. // Kamala Harris approval rating is below Biden's. Whoops... Al just said that.

Some of us (me) have been saying this since 2022. He’s not just old he’s creepy old.

Biden needs some new handlers for these political events and, to be fair, a lot more rest!

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

Like retirement.

We’re watching the debate with family members of all legal voting ages where my youngest nephew is 28, we all agreed that we vote to save DEMOCRACY, we are not voting for a candidate. All that says, Trump is out of the picture, he’s a destroyer not a builder, a dictator/fascist written on his forehead. VOTE BLUE 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

I think it's all hands on deck, get our best surrogates out there with the policies, the issues and what they are going to do, what's been done, the infrastructure projects, the cool stuff that's starting up..

So simple.. dems need to step up and take the risk. A mere win with Biden is not enough.

He caught a cold and had a sore throat. And he let Trump get to him. We don't need to freak out.

@joymarieantonio

2 күн бұрын

And now I'm reading that they scheduled him to do a bunch of events before the debate! Wtf is everyone blaming him for? His campaign is responsible for him being in bad shape.

@MothGirl007

Күн бұрын

@@joymarieantonio Totally agree.

Ornstein proposes some excellent scenarios. Except one: Kamala Harris as replacement. That would be quite unhelpful.

I think it is a mistake to compare this format with a state of the union. And it has never been a good format for Biden with his long standing language issues. His age is certainly a factor but I feel he was over coached and also that answering loaded questions in a minute is unreasonable and a mistake to have agreed to. Maybe foolhardy. But he knows there is a lot at stake. The preparations for this ridiculous circus act must have exhausted him. The pressure he is under must be enormous. Trump covers everything with bluster, bullshit and bullying.

We are fucked!! We are so fucked.

Can anyone explain to me why a “chaotic” convention would be any worse than the chaos of that debate? I’d like to hear an argument as to why a chaotic convention is more threatening to our chances than a candidate who was already losing continuing to prove the Republicans’ case against him (and I’d like that argument to be something other than a cautionary tale about the 1924 Democratic convention, a la David Frum’s latest appeal based on what is at this point ancient f’ing history).

It’s time to have a serious discussion on releasing the delegates. I am Gavin Newsom supporter but I want to win. Josh Shapiro and Gretchen Whitmer shoud be nominated for the sake of our country.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

Nobody remembers Amy Klobachar. Great nobody hates her smart well spoken very likable female.

@steve-real

2 күн бұрын

@@James-hd4ms amy is not in a swing state. this is raw political calculus

STOP ✋ President Biden was suffering from a cold and was at campaign events earlier in the day 🤨 He should have been Resting and Recovering during the day 🤔 his Handlers should be replaced or given the opportunity to realize he is Older and needs Rest ahead of something this monumental 🤷‍♀️ I still support the President and will VOTE for him in November 😎 VOTE BLUE for OUR LIVES 🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸🇺🇸💙🇺🇸

@jannichi6431

2 күн бұрын

💯we all would have needed a prep nap! It was 9:00p.m.!

@jannichi6431

2 күн бұрын

We would have ALL needed a nap. Trump gets his everyday like on J6.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

That can happen when you’re a brain addled octogenarian who can’t close his mouth.

"It was a bad debate." Greatest understatement ever. Like saying the titanic had a tiny leak. -_- Still better than Trump.....man I need a drink

@josephfilm73

2 күн бұрын

Wait for the dust to settle. Nobody knows what the impact will be. Give Biden a few weeks to prove himself however possible, otherwise convince him to let someone younger take over. If this is old age, he won't be able to. Then we'll know. Nominating a new person won't be easy, and they'll be starting from scratch financially (a huge disadvantage), and will be stepping over a black woman (sure to alienate a big part of the base). Replacing Biden sounds wonderful, but it could be just as painful and divisive as letting an old man past his prime continue. There are no good options, only bad and worse ones. Democrats are surely heading for defeat, even with a new candidate, it might not change the outcome.

Usually Al is sharp, but asking what Biden was doing looking down?! How about writing down notes like we all did in college, a sort of coredump of what we brought into our seat? Come on , Al. Disappointing.... I correctly predicted it would take an old white guy to beat an old white guy in '20. Like most, I missed on Hillary in '16. In 2024 it's clear it's going to take more than an old white guy to beat another old white guy. Harris is not the solution, no matter how you pair her up. PAY ATTENTION! My spidey senses are tingling: want to secure a saner U.S. going forward, it's got to be a brand new ticket featuring a Whitmer, or Shapiro, or Moore, or Newsom pairing. How about we get Carville and some other minds together and hash it out for us while leaving all of Biden's closest aides out? Let's not fucking roll the dice, America!!!!

@nancychandler3673

2 күн бұрын

I lost respect for Al Franken just now. It's Biden 2024. 💙 Ass wipe Democratic Socialists will give us Trump just like 2016.

@cassandratq9301

2 күн бұрын

Biden was not writing.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

@@cassandratq9301he was drooling.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

Missing on Hillary is disqualifying.

Geez Al, I didn’t think YOU’D panic.

You don't know what to do? To quote something someone said recently. "When you get knocked down, you get back up!!!"

There’s no question. Wake the f up for anyone who thinks otherwise. There is NO downside to replacing him.

Re theiir coming to the podiums - Trump is first and foremost a showman and a TV veteran, don't forget. He's all about imaging. Joe, God love him, is all about getting his policy points across, not whether or not he "looks" a certain way.

@wendygerrish4964

Күн бұрын

This failed Nixon too.

Everything will be OK. Too much freakout over one debate. The voters who need to flip were expecting Joe to sound the way he did so they were not surprised and were not concerned. They could hear Trump loud and clear, and they were not impressed. Trump lost support and that is what matters.

@linaanne3101

2 күн бұрын

This is just me, but whom ever is on the ticket (DEM-wise) against Trump in November, well that Dem is whom I will vote for. Trump and his Project 2025 agenda must be stopped. So we will see in the next week or so what Joe decides to do. If Joe decides to step down--- then the DNC needs to come up w/ an alternative quickly. Anyhow, Trump cannot win, or our Democracy will be destroyed, imho. #voteBlue

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

You should have watched the debate. The reviews were pretty much “horrifying shit show”.

@ouachitawoman

2 күн бұрын

@@James-hd4ms I tried. It was too much of a train wreck. But rumor has it, Dems are taking it harder than never Trumpers. FOX had conditioned their viewers to not expect much from Biden so they didn't and Trumps hateful, lying rhetoric turned them off. I have talked to Republicans who will vote for Biden regardless. I remain optimistic.

@linaanne3101

Күн бұрын

@@James-hd4ms === I watched it and it was a horror. Joe was in a bad state and could not articulate anything....But then let's not forget Trump & his 30+ lies. The whole thing was hard to watch.

Yes, the President’s decisions can be supremely important. When, in the course of the job is that decision needed with in 2 minutes and without notes or advisors? The day to day work of the job is NOT in debate format.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

It’s about getting elected!

@lorraineh9083

Күн бұрын

@@James-hd4ms I must just be stupid. But isn’t using the same methods over and over again expecting a different outcome is insanity? I cannot believe that 90 minutes of a stupid debate is THE deciding factor for people. I’ve heard comments relating back to perception from the debate. The “winner” shows strength (it matters to few people what is actually said). Then there are criticisms that certain details were not mentioned, like Project 2025 or multiple indictments, etc. So is it bigger that the detail or perception was so terribly off the mark? For those paying attention it is the lack of detail that produce the most criticisms, however those paying attention to detail have probably already selected their next president. This brings us to those not paying attention so it is the perception that was paramount. For those not paying close attention, what do they see? They’ve bought into the republican marketing. Trump is MAGA. He has sold his MAGA followers on their own fame, fortune or security fears. They seemingly are mostly insane, but they make him look bigger than he is. Make him look more forceful than he is. It looks determined. Trump looks like its leader. It is all built on fluff and bullshit, lies and evil. It is insanity at its strongest. It is dangerous. What do those same people see when they look at Biden? They see an individual. An old man, singular. They have not been shown the power behind everyone that is the Democratic Party. The sales pitch for the election cannot be one man against a movement. It has to be Biden and the group he LEADS and LEADS WELL to beat Trump and the band of self-serving lunatics who fall in line behind him.

@James-hd4ms

Күн бұрын

@@lorraineh9083 The debate doesn’t matter. The visuals will be seen over and over of a clearly enfeebled slack mouthed gazing off possibly drooling creepy looking senile man. And of course I will vote for him if I have to. Step down, shake things up with an exciting convention and go on to win easily and crush the MAGA party, securing a beautiful future for our country and the world. Or loose.

Joe's got to go. 4 more years.....no way. Let's see if Joe and family can put country before self.

Turn the media attention to our favor. Go get Bernie. He's experienced and basically plug and play. He will crush Trump in any debate. And he will help average Americans. Lets be real serious, now. A black woman is a loser. It's wrong, but it's reality. I believe Americans are looking for anybody else. Everybody likes Bernie. Otherwise, nobody else has the required name recognition this late in the process. Might as well stay with Joe as go with Harris.

Biden looks totally lost , so lost that he’s a menace.

I would suggest a Whitmer/ Hakeem Jeffires ticket. I think a reset is in order. - trouble is his denial of his condition is another sign of his decline... and on Monday even better news- Immunity for the Prez.

I think everyone is making too much of the debate. Biden has always been a gaff machine. And I know there is a difference between a gaff and mental decline, but it doesn’t matter, I’m not voting for Trump. The democrats could nominate Dick Chaney and I would have to grit my teeth and vote for him, but NO Trump!! I would love to see a Harris/ Jon Tester ticket!

Jamie Raskin would be a great replacement for Pres Biden. If only Pete Buttigieg was not gay. He'd work good too. I don't think a gay could win a national election for president. Congress, ok, but not president.

Biden did not fair too well, but still can be an effective president over the next term.

@lisica8458

2 күн бұрын

Only if he discovers the Fountain of Youth.

@mtns340

2 күн бұрын

True, but he has to get there first.

@James-hd4ms

2 күн бұрын

You have to get elected! Why is that such a difficult concept?

It occurs to me that we are in a crazy situation when the fate of the world depends on Jill Biden.

Weimar America.

Harris-Newsom? No thanks. Whitmer-Pritzger? Yes. Beshear-Whitmer. Whitmer-Warnock. Yes. In any event, I'll vote for a ham sandwich for President if it has a D after it. Trump MUST NOT win.

Thank you for the blunt scary truth of the future. Love that you keep it real! Still time to change it up!! Let's go🎉

Could someone please help Doc and Marty get the almanac back and unskew this awful alternate timeline? Pretty please? With sugar on top? For the love of God…

Ornstein is really great. A very smart articulate guy. Why don't we see people like this regularly on the nightly news.

Can this guest and get Micheal Cohen and Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project on. Enough of this bullshit. Grow a pair of balls.

As a 65 YO fart, I say. Too risky. Get a grip.

Its distressing that half of this discussion is about how to --with baling wire, gorilla glue, and duct tape--put Joe Biden together again. Like Humpty Dumpty. Seems to me that these pundits should be more serious about how a replacement can be found besides just saying how difficult it would be.

There’s only GREED that Google interrupts with SO MANY advertisements ‼️

The worst thing we could do is rally behind Kamala Harris. I choose the shit show. She's a horrible choice. Trump would beat her handily. An open convention would allow a race between the top tier candidates. Sometimes chaos is good

@scrubjay93

Күн бұрын

100% agree - she even hurts the current Biden ticket because not even Dems are happy with her being President if something happens to Joe in a second term.

Expatriating to another country is becoming a viable alternative to living in the USA. I just don't see, given our dysfunctional politics, how it gets any better.

@donaldsikorski8907

2 күн бұрын

Have a 😂trip.

@Alexaalexa701

2 күн бұрын

I did a long time ago. I was outsourced because I'm not fluent in Spanish, the first language of the country.

@dawnoceanside7300

2 күн бұрын

Run!! Run!! Run!!! Too many weak people in this country. My grandfather, mom and dad, son, and hopefully not for years my brother, who all served this country, who put their lives on the line..... ARE SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVE!! RUN Forrest, RUN!!

@paulkern7229

Күн бұрын

@@dawnoceanside7300 My grandparents came to this country with their family at the beginning of the last century because they felt they could make a better life for themselves and a better future for their children here. And it was true! But I don't think it's true any more. That's not running, that's looking ahead with eyes unclouded by nationalism.

I can’t believe you’re saying this Al… He doesn’t debate well. Only 10% of all voters even watched the debate for most people. It’s a non-issue. Nothing is going to be serious until October. And Biden‘s not gonna let this happen again in the second debate. There’s no doubt of it. He was caught off guard by the Gish gallop, and that won’t happen again. And the moderators are a joke. In actuality CNN should never have been used for this debate. I’m sticking with him. And I know if something happens to his health that Kamala Harris will step in and do fine. The most important thing at this time is will have a blue Congress. Otherwise, he’s going to be stymied considerably.

@janenef

2 күн бұрын

Even though only 10 watched, the fall out is all over every news source, talk show, social media. Fox and radio talk shows are brutal as they support the unnamable orange menace.

I was reminded this week of the 110th anniversary of the flashpoint of World War One in Sarajevo. This calamity was possible because all involved parties were too afraid to say stop this escalation right here, right now. Thus many historians can say that an assassin became the single most important person of the 20th century. Don't let another person become the most important person for the 21st century just because we were afraid to say NO to him.

I know you are willing to toss out the conversation but that is the only option to maintain a democratic presidency.

There is no turning this around. It was not just bad, it was not just awful, it was lethal. "We finally beat Medicare." This is not stuttering, or just a "gaffe." If he had started out 5 points ahead, I would STILL think he should drop out after this.