The motto of the Swedish Volunteer Corps was. "For Finland's freedom and Sweden's honour"

@Cohac

2 жыл бұрын

I'm swedish and I've never heard that one. The one on the propaganda posters is "Finlands sak är vår!"

@micromange

2 жыл бұрын

It was actually: ”För Nordens frihet och Sveriges ära” which roughly translates to ”For the freedom of the nordic countries and Swedens honor”. Not that I’m nitpicking or anything. Well maybe a little bit.

@AdurianJ

2 жыл бұрын

@@micromange Doh!

@petter5721

2 жыл бұрын

Finlands sak är vår 🇸🇪💕🇫🇮

@TheLemminkainen

2 жыл бұрын

Soome vabaduse ja Eesti au eest ( it was Estonias moto )

6.5x55 is probably the most ballistically accurate military cartridge. Almost no recoil, flat trajectory, but still kills anything between a man and a moose.

@MrBandholm

2 жыл бұрын

If that is the case, one would question why everyone else didn't adopt it. edit* The number of people who somehow thinks I am asking why it was not adopted is pretty surprising... I thought it was clear my point was retorical, as in, the round was/is great, but not that much better.

@juhomaki-petaja

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBandholm Because on common belief that rifle should kill to +1200metres and caliber must be at least 7,5mm Today we have learned that lesson and 6-6,8mm cardridge has proven to be most balanced size

@TheOriginalFaxon

2 жыл бұрын

It's why the 6.5 creedmoor is so popular today. Basically a modernized version of the same cartridge with similar bullets

@cuffzter

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOriginalFaxon and available for short action semiautomatic rifles. There arent that many long action semis available for 6.5x55 (apart from the Ljungman)

@MrBandholm

2 жыл бұрын

@@werre2 maybe

I traded my Mosin for an M96 and I’m so glad I did, these guns really are a marvel of engineering. They even hold up surprisingly well to sustained fire and high round counts, I’m approaching 3,000 rounds through mine so far just in my ownership alone and I see no deviation in accuracy from when I first got it, often 200 rounds at a time per range day. For a 120 year old gun, it sure is hard to beat.

@reesetompkins7987

2 жыл бұрын

>3000 rounds >sustained do boomers really

@imadequate3376

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a M96 years before a mosin, talked to a old timer at a gun show looking at his rifles and I saw "Swedish mauser + 80rnds 300$" and seeing mauser and 300$ piqued my interest, got the full info on the gun, and he mentioned that 6.5 was non corrosive, and he said it's a tack driver, he wasn't wrong. My M96 is 105 years old

@teammosin9999

2 жыл бұрын

uuggrrgghh! You what? :-D jk, man. You could not have made a better choice! The M96 is superior, IMO, to all other bolt rifles of it's era and many that came after. Next on my wish list, in fact, is an M96. I'll never part with my dear old moist nugget, however.

@SideWays8Productions

2 жыл бұрын

@@teammosin9999 I bought my Garbage Rod for $50 back in 2013 and it came with 200 rounds of ammo, the metaphorical profit I made on it with the trade was too good to pass up! If I had the money I woulda just bought the Mauser, but I had just spent a lot of money on moving across the country and my Mosin was so dogshit inaccurate, I just couldn’t have fun with it nor justify putting money through it via ammo. Compared to my Garands and Enfields, it really felt like a waste of space and money. Had I gotten a better one I maybe woulda kept it, it was definitely fun to wield and show off to new shooter friends, but between the 10 MOA grouping and having to smack the bolt on the table to open it, I felt it would be enjoyed more by someone else!

@SideWays8Productions

2 жыл бұрын

@@reesetompkins7987 sustained is the wrong term, I’ll admit. But not much else to describe 200 rounds in a span of about 10 minutes through a 120 year old bolt gun lol

My grandfather was one of the swedish volunteers. He got injured in battle and returned with what was most likely ptsd and turned to the bottle and passed way too young.

@AH-ni2kl

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrFYGY read the room

@petter5721

Жыл бұрын

Mine too

@tsarfield5835

6 ай бұрын

​@@AH-ni2kl😂😂😂

My best friend used to have one of these 6.5 swedes and omg it was so damn smooth and accurate...its been nearly 20 years since he sold it and I still give him shit for doing that

@bushcraft_in_the_north

2 жыл бұрын

here in Norway i can get you a mint one for around houndred dollars. But they are great rifles,we used our Krag Jørgensen. But we used captured German Mausers after the war. The g33/40 went to the police together with rhe US carbine. The Army picked the best Mausers and Kongsberg Våpenfabrik changed out the sights,barrels and stocks and small changes innternal to acomedate the longer 30-06. Undercut front sights,a bulletproof rifle(allmost) and 30-06 it is great rifles. Mine is made Mauser in 1937 and is mint,not a scratch. They shoot great,i have many expensive firearms,really expensive,but this is my favorite rifle and the g33/40 in 8mm. The Swedish Mausers did not really got any popularity here in Norway,probably because of the war. Everybody saw them as cowards,they just did buisness and made money with the Germans, The hate for Germans is strong in Norway and maybe some of the reson we are not in the EU. Dont want to be ruled by the Germans again,Nrway,Denmark an Finland dont like the Swedes to much to these days. But they make good steel,allways had a good reputation,and it really is.

@andref8246

2 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself. A lot of finns, Norwegians and danes like Sweden and the feeling is mutual.

9 Hole Reviews and Forgotten Weapons is the best bromance/crossover on KZread.

I love how the M96 shoots. That is what I used in my Remote Brutality entry last year. I wonder how many of these Finn marked M96s made it to the US...

@justinrabbit2206

2 жыл бұрын

I had a SA marked m96 barreled action land in my lap last year. Sourced a stock set and bottom metal from various distributors and currently putting it back together.

@Swamp-fox-foolery

Жыл бұрын

My father, uncle, and grandfather each have one of these rifles, with the oldest being stamped 1900.

In Oberndorf am Neckar, where Mauser factory formerly was, is still the Schwedenbau/ swedish building. It was build for producing the first swedish Mauser rifles. Today there are two museums ( firearms museum and homeregion museum) and a number of semiofficial indtitutions.

I've been metaldetecting in Lapland near locations used by the Germans during the war. One place is quite odd... It used to be a German camp and vehicle shelter, but the whole area is littered with 6.5x55 rounds and casings, clearly blown up or otherwise destroyed on purpose. Most of the rounds date between 1904 and 1942. I haven't yet found out why they are there, if they were used by the Germans (or Finnish troops under German command) in the area, or if they we're gotten rid off after the war, and a German camp was a good place to blow them up...

@gunnermurphy6632

2 жыл бұрын

Are the primer cups blown out?

@Tekdruid

2 жыл бұрын

The Germans destroyed much of their materiel when they were forced to retreat from Lapland, typically by blowing up the depots.

@sRazor96

2 жыл бұрын

The Germans used Norwegian weapons and ammo for second line units, Ian has a video on it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eoSksK-ffMTIkdo.html

@kallekangasmaki311

2 жыл бұрын

@@gunnermurphy6632 Some were, but not all. Many look more like they have been crushed with something, with even the bullets getting smashed

@kallekangasmaki311

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tekdruid That specific place didnt seem to have any large craters left, so at least no heavy weapons ammo was blown up. Also, I'm not sure if the Germans were ever supplied with 6.5x55 ammo or rifles

I'm not sure if Ian loves finns more than we love him. Always honored to see someone put our small country on the map

@ulvschmidt7174

2 жыл бұрын

Almost as much as he loves the french

@Thekossiable

2 жыл бұрын

@@ulvschmidt7174 Oh, i dont recall him ever visiting france yet alone every year ;)

@taekatanahu635

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thekossiable Just wait until Ian starts his spin-off series "Forgotten Ingredients" that is about cuisine.

@chuckcochran8599

2 жыл бұрын

The Finnish people are some of the most hardy people the world has ever seen. The Soviets paid a high price to conquer Finland. As an American interested in the history of WW 2, I've got nothing but admiration for the fight you all put up.

Every time I watch one of Ian's videos about military bolt guns, I feel a little sick that I didn't buy a stack of them in the early 90's when one could buy just about every variety for $100 or less each :( Many of them unissued and still packed in cosmoline.

@AshleyPomeroy

2 жыл бұрын

Which makes me wonder if Ian has ever covered the CZ-52, which was a roller-locked 7.62x25mm pistol from Czechoslovakia that was cheaply available back then. It had an unusual operating mechanism was the most normal of the former Eastern Bloc pistols (e.g. it had a safety).

@DeeDee-bm9hr

2 жыл бұрын

Hit up estate sales. Boomers hoarded them and their offspring are usually happy to pawn off anything that has historical significance

@gymbr0

Жыл бұрын

Buy a Carcano carbine. Certainly not as good of a deal as what you could get in the 90s, but a great deal compared to what you can get today.

@andref8246

3 күн бұрын

You can still get them in Sweden for very little money. If you can get someone to export it that is.

A small note here, Sweden were neutral in the second world war, but were not neutral in the Winter War. Sweden instead declared itself a "non-warring nation" (direct translation, not sure what the english term is) which allowed Sweden to supply Finland with A LOT of materiel, volunteers and work as a middleman for finnish arms purchases abroad, Sweden would for example assemble about 200 fighter aircraft that Finland had ordered before they were flown to Finland (including the (in)famous Brewster Buffalo which arrived too late to take part in the Winter War but did splendid service in the first years of the Continuation war). Oh, should also be added that the swedish Home Guard used a lot of the m/96 as well, both during WW2 and during most of the Cold War, the last ones leaving service in 1995.

@janiilola5810

2 жыл бұрын

This is just nit-picking, but the Finnish Brewsters were never known as "Buffalo" in Finland.

@meanmanturbo

2 жыл бұрын

the proper translation is "non-belligerent"

@lavrentivs9891

2 жыл бұрын

@@janiilola5810 An export version, B-239 if I recall.

@lavrentivs9891

2 жыл бұрын

@@meanmanturbo Thanks =)

If I don't remember it wrong, Sweden wasn't neutral in The winterwar they hade declared themself "non combatant " which gave them more room for support to Finland.

@coolsenjoyer

2 жыл бұрын

I just saw a documentary on Finnish tv where they said that Sweden as a state didn't officially support Finland and that's how they got away with it.

@bigbelix

2 жыл бұрын

We sent them tons of anti-tank shit pretty much helping them dome the commies thankfully. Finns are strong survivors

@fridolfmane1063

2 жыл бұрын

Hitler supported Finland as well.

@mountainside5978

2 жыл бұрын

@@fridolfmane1063 Hitler supported Soviet Union in winter war 1939-40. Hitler and Stalin made pact known as Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. This agreement defined the borders of Soviet and German spheres of influence across Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland

@fridolfmane1063

2 жыл бұрын

@@mountainside5978 From what i know it was a nonaggression pact during the invasion of Poland and had nothing to do with the baltic states or the winter war. Western allies Britain and Usa on the other hand with their lend lease programs funded the soviet unions war efforts on a humongous level.

Minor detail, but in addition of 77,000 rifles bought by Finnish military from Sweden and about 7,900 brought by volunteers, there was also third source. About 2,000 were bought by Finnish businessman Ragnar Nordström in December of 1939 and handed over to Finnish reserve units being trained in northern Finland at the time. Nordström was pretty interesting person - Jaeger-officer and Lieutenant-Colonel of Finnish Army, who had lost his right hand in Finnish Civil War and retired from military to become business tycoon, who was able to able to finance political groups he liked and sort of "gray eminence" in 1930's. During Winter War he bought not only those rifles, but also 100 light machine guns and eight 37-mm antitank-guns from Sweden and supplied them to very poorly equipped Finnish troops fighting in northern Finland. SA-in-a-box property stamp was introduced in June of 1942.

I have a sporterised Swedish m96 (not done by me) that i use mainly for for seal hunting. As seal hunting is mostly head shots at 50 to 150 m, a flat shooting caliber is preferred. There are other smaller cartridges who are flat shooting and can do the job, but the regulations for seal hunting in Norway are the same as for moose and deer when it comes to the "power" of the bullet. That is why 6.5x55 is perfect for the job. With a silencer the rifle is a dream to shoot , sound and recoil is equal to a 22LR. The 6.5x55 is not only common for big game in Scandinavia. Many hunters in Norway and Sweden also use it for bird hunting (with FMJ bullet). Mostly for goose and other larger birds, but i know people that even have used 6.5 for ptarmigan (type of small grouse) hunting. Not only is the precision of the M96 good, but the overall quality is also impressive. There have been incidents where both gun and shooter have ended up in the water (salt water that is). The replaced newer parts of the gun have then started rusting almost the same moment as it is out of the water while the original blued parts are to this day still spotless.

Finally, a Swedish Mauser review! I've had several for years and they're of superb quality with a very cool history. Great caliber too.

Those Swedish volunteers were probably the most useful of all the volunteers who rushed to Finland during winter war. Here in Finland we don't recognize enough their effort. By the way, Swedish government was really supportive to Finland and those volunteers. Volunteers brought with them 12 fighters from Swedish Air Forces. And some other planes too. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Regiment_19,_Finnish_Air_Force

@Lowkicksfordayz

2 жыл бұрын

Swedish goverment was supportive to us Finns , until french troops wanted to come help us , then Sweden really wasn’t helpful

@juhomaki-petaja

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lowkicksfordayz Even swedes didn't want french to come and drop their rifles. You could stumble at those when changing positions...

@target844

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lowkicksfordayz If you look passage of French and UK troops through Sweden and Norway it was rejected for a good reason. The path would be from Narvik along the railroad to the coast of Bothnian Bay and to Finland. This is an area with lots of iron mines. The suspicion was if the troops were let in they would not leave but occupy the area. Then you risk an attack from Germany because they need Swedish Iron ore. So it was a way to move the conflict with Germany to Scandinavia. We know today that the suspicion was correct and the occupation of northern Sweden was planned. So if the goal is to stay out of the war the best option for Sweden was to reject the passage of allied troops to Finland. The alternate history with allied troops let through and fighting Soviet troops in Finland is interesting. Not primarily because of German invasion and combat in Scandinavia but what will happen when Germany attacked the Soviet Union. What will happen with lend leas and other allied support of the Soviet Union? Will they forget the direct combat in Finland or would there be no lend-lease and what is the effect on the Geerman invation`?

@petter5721

2 жыл бұрын

10.000 Swedish soldiers volunteers went to Finland and extensive arms donations were made by Sweden despite shortages of everything. Almost 25% of the Swedish airforce participated as well (volunteers).

@Lowkicksfordayz

2 жыл бұрын

@@target844 shure , if french troops have plans to occupy these places then it’s a smart defensive move for Sweden to not allow them in . But you could also play it aggressive and force them out if They tried to occupy these places . You could warn them about direct conflict if they try to occupy . Maybe then they would go to Finland . Who knows . But I rather take the risk for our neighbours in need , and then if they would try to occupy you slaughter them . It’s all about mindset .

I am wondering if you are working on a book covering Finnish military service small arms. It seems they are a subject if high interest to you, not that they shouldn't be but you seem to have good Finnish resources. As always very excellent work.

@ForgottenWeapons

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am :)

@Mongo63a

2 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenWeapons There were also Swedish M/21 and m/37 BARs used in Finland based on SA stamps. I have one of the machine gun sleds for my Kg m/37. The sleds were used by ski troops in the war as well. Contact me if you need the info for your book.

@gregm4441

2 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenWeapons Info on the SA stamp I have found puts it's 1st use in May of 42. Most weapons were stamped after WWII ended, when put into inventory. Captured Mosin's were stamped "41" in 1941. Since the M96 was never captured that didn't apply, but if the SA stamp was used in 1941 it would have been used on Mosin rifles, and not the 41. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks

@eVVigilance

2 жыл бұрын

@Forgotten Weapons Ian if you need pictures of a Tikka 91/30 that was captured by the Russians in the Continuation War and refurbed by the Russians after capture... I have one. (But I know there were at one point also 2 of them in AZ).

Great video! The history is becoming my favorite part.

Thank you Ian, a true treat to watch your videos. Keep up the good work!

I’m glad I bought my M96 a couple years ago before the prices started skyrocketing. Love your videos. It’s always a good start to the day when I see a new forgotten weapons video.

Having bought one of these last week ( just awaiting delivery ) I did check your channel for any info but couldn't find it. I have also been researching the Winter War the last few days. Well happy that this brilliant video has just appeared today ! Can't wait for it to arrive now !

This is such a great channel it covers two of my favorite subjects, firearms and history. 🍻

Really enjoyed the video. Looks like a great rifle to shoot.

I love hearing this type of information, I got to hand it to the volunteers they really stepped up for Finland.

The M96 is great rifle. It has special place for me and I have even taking it deer hunting. I got pictures of my Great Grandfather who was a professional soldier with this rifle. Grandfathers also used M96s. My father was a Swedish Army junior artillery officer so mainly carried an M45 but he got to shoot every small arm in inventory including the M96. Many of these rifles sat in Swedish Military inventory for a very long time with the last big batches not coming to the states until the mid 1990s.

Thx for showing. Many new infos I didn't know

Really cool video, I always thought they didnt saw much combat use, thanks for the information :)

This is a great idea for a video series where Ian can talk about common rifles being used by other countries and how they were used.

This is my favorite bolt action rifle. Thanks for the great video!

Some brilliant info there indeed. Ive an M96 and an M41b. Great rifles.

What a great story behind these rifles! Thanks.

My dad worked as an apprentice gun smith in the early 60,s. He did a restore on a m94 carbine. Everyone loved that carbine. It shot so good and recoil was nothing like the 30-06 he used.

I love the collaboration between you all. Its lovely see such neighbourly behaviour.

@riddick7082

2 жыл бұрын

It was more than helping a neighboring country. Finland was part of Sweden for almost 700 years

Good presentation. Some Swedish volunteers helped in the Finnish Civil War of 1918 also. Not in large numbers, but fighting and taking casualties nevertheless. Close to 1500 men fought (on the white side, naturally), with around 100 killed in action. They took part in the Battle of Tampere, the heaviest battle of the war.

@henrik3291

2 жыл бұрын

Olof Palme the elder, the uncle and namesake of Swedens maybe best known prime minister actually died while serving as a volunteer in the civil war.

@mikaluomala7319

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrik3291 True. I believe he was killed at Tampere. The Swedish "Brigade" (battalion size unit really) was later engaged in action around Lempäälä and Valkeakoski as well.

It’s this kind of history that makes milsurps so interesting to me. I picked up an m96 at a local shop a few years ago for a song not really knowing that much about them other than I love 6.5s, it was in great condition, and the quality was amazing. After seeing the video I dug it out of the safe and it could be the twin of Ian’s, how cool, SA marked with all of the later Swedish updates.

My dad got a hold of one of these in the 80's. And it still shoots just fine today

9:33 the pronunciation was spot on!

it's interesting that rifles ended up in the coastal areas where there are alot of swedish speakers and in the north where the border with sweden is. maybe they where sent to where people could understand the manuals.

@robertunderdunkterwilliger2290

2 жыл бұрын

In the north the only place where they speak "Swedish" is Närpes. And Swedish-Swedes do not understand them much.

@JanoTuotanto

2 жыл бұрын

Or the locals had contacts to Sweden and could buy ammo from private vendors.

@janiilola5810

2 жыл бұрын

The action in the north was along our eastern border though and there are no Swedish speakers there.

@kebrl

2 жыл бұрын

@@janiilola5810 weren't the swedish volunteers primarily deployed there?

@peabase

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertunderdunkterwilliger2290 That's just no true. We have native Swedish-speakers in Uleåborg, 400 klicks north of Närpes.

It is the most used caliber in Norway to this date. It has superb BC and SD,just fantastic caliber and the right proportions between bullet and shell.

It would have been cool to see Sweden adopt a G3 in 6.5x55, or a shortened version of it. Could have changed views of weapon design. I remember seeing speculation that if the Garand had been adopted in .276 Pedersen, the M1 carbine would not have been adopted.

@nzxt1234

2 жыл бұрын

swedish did make a few 6,5x55 prototypes for trails also made FN FAL in 6,5x55 befor they adopted the G3/ak4 but 7,62 nato also they made browning bars in 6,5x55 in sweden

Very cool coordination or whatever. Having the the 3 different perspectives on the content. Very very cool. Now all we need is Karl walking a battlefield. 👍👍👍

Thank you , Ian . 🐺

Ian makes studying guns fun tbh... If forgotten weapons didn't have Ian it just wouldn't be the same... All the old folks, the gun nuts, no one feels as safe or reliable as Ian. The respect for the firearms and their power, the calmness, the knowledge and passion. It's amazing. I always watched gun videos and the people showing, operating, or explaining the guns always threw me off quickly. It was always some old know it all, or some hillbilly that you didn't actually know if you could trust them or not with their own firearms that they owned for years.. Ian makes it crystal clear tho after having just met a gun and just feels like a cool dude to know. Someone you could 110% trust with this stuff

Othias and Mae have some really good videos. I like the partner channel that does the gun repairs.

Very nice rifle and really interesting history lesson.

You do know Your history on how things went over here in the 40's. Respect that. Thanks.

Man, that gun is in beautiful condition! And the design aesthetics are nice and clean too. What a looker!

I have a professionally sporterized one ( circa 1960’s) that Seems to like sierra 107 gr. Bullets. They are great guns and well made. The k-31 is something marvelous too!

It's a bonus that my favourite channels compliment each other so well.

My M96, K31 and M39 shoot amazingly but… my best shooting Milsurp is actually my M1917 I just can’t miss with that thing

@LUR1FAX

2 жыл бұрын

*Laughs in M1 Garand*

@rednecksniper4715

2 жыл бұрын

@@LUR1FAX the M1 Garand isn’t nearly as accurate as the m96, m39, k31 or M1917 the M1 Garand shoots 3-4 MOA at best

@jameskazd9951

2 жыл бұрын

@@rednecksniper4715 bolt guns are just more inherently accurate to auto loaders, generally anyway

@andrewmohs4734

2 жыл бұрын

Love my M1917. Hands down it has the best combat sights of the era.

@rednecksniper4715

2 жыл бұрын

@@jameskazd9951 yeah with the loan exception of the Swedish Ljungman it is as accurate as my M96 the Ljungman is my buddies but it will soon be mine

9:32 your pronounciation of "Suomi" was perfect! 10/10

The 6.5x55 is an amazing cartridge for being dang near 130 years old. I have a m96 that was properly sporterized by a gunsmith back in the day. It's glass bedded in a laminate stock with a Lyman micrometer sight. I can easily hit a torso plate out at 650 yards (max available range)every time.

@richardsolberg4047

2 жыл бұрын

260 Rem is a more modern & shorter version of the 6.5x55 ..

@michaelc9708

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a picture of yours, send directly? Or post too. I'll try and send one of mine

@michaelc9708

2 жыл бұрын

Replied one space down by accident, lol

I picked one of these up for 250 bucks at a shop near me at the beginning of the riots a year and a half ago. Someone had traded it in for an AR, my first milsurp gun and quite a happy accident. It shoots amazing, gotta go check if it has Finnish markings on it now, that would be the icing on the cake lol!

My great grandfather aquired a Swedish Mauser and used it during the civil war and we still have the rifle as an heirloom.

I've several old classic rifles, but the m96 is my top shelf.

I purchased one more than 20 years ago. Like yours mine was made in 1925. I use it in competition, very accurate.

Thanks, Ian. I didn't realize M96s were used by the Finn's until recently.

Didn't notice in which moment this became Forgotten Finnish Weapons.

I have a 1916 built M96. My old eyes and those iron sights can still put down nice groups at 100 yards from prone. Like the round so much, I built a 6.5 Creedmoor AR. Interesting learning about the Swede's support for Finland. All that Viking blood still runs deep up there in the north.

That was fantastic and so what Henry's feat. That man can shoot.

that 6.5 cartridge rocks, I had a Tikka back in the 90s in 6.5 and it was an absolute tack driver, fingernail groups

I have a Swedish m/94-14 carbine with Finnish "SA" property markings, it is by far my favorite military Mauser of all time

Make deer shooting an olympic sport again

Used to have an M/96 myself marked with an [SA] stamp. Very nice rifle. Gave it up because I shoot more than I collect and wanted someone with more historical care to have it.

👍😊 I saw the 9 hole, Hickok 45 and now you the 96 is a good rifle.

One postwar modification made on m/96 rifles used for biathlon (way before that became a .22 sport only). The shoulder stock was replaced by a M45 submachine gun folding stock to make the skiing easier.

@JH-lo9ut

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Is there anywhere one can see an example of this abomination?

@pergustavsson2424

2 жыл бұрын

@@JH-lo9ut Don't know if any still exists, I got to handle one, but not shooting it, at a national shooting contest in the early sixties. It was quickly made obsolete when the .22 rifles took over the biathlon competitions soon afterwards. But it did make the 50" long rifle a bit easier to carry when skiing, though. Edit: I just found a photo of the rifle in the Wikipedia article "Biathlon Rifle".

Henry proved what all of us owning these rifles have known for years. One of the best milsurp shooters out there ☑️

I have a m96/38 made in 1916 and it's a beautiful rifle that shoots amazingly for being over 100 years old.

got one of these from my grandfathers old weapon locker. for some reason he refurbished the weapon and put a lighter weapon stock on it that made it look like any other hunting weapon. Otherwise pretty much the same weapon. Super comfortable to shoot with.

My first firearm was a 1905 M96 Still have it and it´s still my favourite.

I've used a swede carbine for 25 years. Very fine rifle.

I can't believe how good these rifles were made, with such good triggers, no play at all from side to side, the quality of the steel is superb, and mine was made in 1899! Came with a threaded barrel. Won it on gun broker for 600 bucks, not bad for these times, considering most M1903's are in the 1000's, and by now those M1903 Springfields are not all original components. I would say my M1903 NRA Sporter made in 1928 is on par with this M96 made in 1899!

A few years ago at a gun show, a dealer had five M-96s for sale. Having read "Rifles of the White Death", you know the one with the "SA" went into my collection.

I need to find a good book on the Winter War, and not just the usual couple of paragraphs crammed into a book on WW2 and the Soviets

Finally M96 video

This looks like a pretty fun rifle to shoot

@mascadadelpantion8018

2 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar you lucky man

My 6.5x55mm Swedish Mauser is one of my favorite milsurp rifles. It is a tack driver. The Finns were well served by these rifles.

The SA property mark was applied to everything in Finland possession after the war, and was used during the Continuation War on rifles that needed repair, or went through an arsenal. Likely most got the SA stamp after the war. There was a longer mark in 1941, and shortened to SA in 1942.

A handsome and well preserved rifle.

I'm Swedish and had no idea we sent rifles over there. Thanks for the history lesson as well as showing off this beautiful rifle 🙂❤️

@cuffzter

2 жыл бұрын

The amount we sent over was about half the entire finnish budget for 1938. The finns had 4 anti aircraft guns at the start of the war. Sweden sent them 100 more...

@TheSlyngel

2 жыл бұрын

You should know this. What do they teach in history class nowadays?

@bernhardb4711

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSlyngel If you want to see something cool, google "forest brothers". I didn't hear that word in school or in media (went to school in the 70s). Another example is "Polish deluge". A third is that the Swedish communist party (now V) supported Hitler. At least until Stalin told them that Hitler wasn't good anymore. (They at least stopped being Stalinists early, directly Moscow told them to.) When you see a few of those, you wonder how much of your world view is gaslighting from school/media...

@peabase

2 жыл бұрын

@@bernhardb4711 No wonder, Hitler and Stalin were allies until 1941. No honour among thieves.

@bernhardb4711

2 жыл бұрын

@@peabase The point was that no one mentioned that in Swedish school or in media. I gave more examples. Is it a democracy if unpleasant history for a political party is cleaned up...?

To summarise Swedish support for Finland Equipment: 135.000 rifles 357 machine guns 450 light machine guns 50.000.000 rounds of small arms ammunition 144 field guns 100 AA guns 93 AT guns 300.000 shells 300 sea mines 500 depth charges 83 motorcycles 83 cars 350 trucks 13 tractors 17 fighter aircraft 5 light bombers 1 transport aircraft 3 reconnaisance aircraft Financial support: 2.000.000.000 Swedish crowns(2-3 finnish defence budgets) The Swedish state posed as a creditor for Finnish imports of war materials Volunteers: Flight regiment 19, including 12 fighters and 6 light bombers. This unit took responsibility for the air defence of northern Finland. It counducted very aggresive missions, including several bombings of russian troops columns and preemptive strikes against russian airfields. The traditions of this flight regiment is still maintained by flight regiment 21. An anti-air battery in Vasa. Several units of nurses and doctors. The Swedish Volunteers Corps that relieved finnish troops at the Sala front. 8000 volunteers reached the front, including some Norwegians(eg the Norwegian resistance hero Max Manus) Another 4000 volunteers was on its way when peace was announced. The Corps had concducted aggresive reconnaisance missions and probing attacks against russiand positions and was preparing for an infiltration assault against these positions. Conclusion: The amount of equipment sent from Sweden to Finland did mean alot for the war effort. For example, the rifles that was supplied to the finnish army was delivered by Swedish trucks driving day and night over the icy gulf of Bothnia. These arrived just in time to arm approximately 100.000 finnish reservists being called up frontline. At the same time Swedish defence capabilites was clearly diminished through this, approximately a third of the Swedish army's equipment was sent to Finland, and Swedish bases in the north basically posed as finnish supply bases. If Sweden would have gone to war directly with the USSR a lot of this equipment would have had to stay with the Swedish armed forces. Especially the fighters and AA guns (that was already scarce in Sweden) would have had to defend Sweden against air attacks from the baltics states. It would have taken time for the Swedish army to deploy in Finland, it is easier to move equipment than soldiers. Also the Swedish conscripts was less well trained than their Finnish counterparts, for example, winter training had been suspended for those all units except those based in northern Sweden(because of budgets cuts). Problem with lacking winter training would later be evident with the Swedish volunteer corps as they were delayed when several volunteers got frostbites, and the corps had to stay back for extra winter training. AND: Sweden was not neutral during the Winter war, it is a flagrant breach of neutrality to supply weapons, and allow volunteers to go to a belligerent nations. Therefore Sweden had declared itself as non-belligerent. EDIT: While reflecting on how Sweden would have done to transfer a substantial amount of troops to and in Finland and supplying them I realise that it would have been a logistical nightmare. One of the reasons for this is that Finland and Sweden had different rail guages. Large bottlenecks would have been created on the the Swedish and finnish border. Also therefore Sweden could not transfer trains and train engines to Finland for further transport.

@PersonalityMalfunction

2 жыл бұрын

Great summary. I grew up deeply ashamed of Swedish lack of action during the winter war, and our Finnish brothers still hold Sweden in contempt to this day. Now I'm a little bit older and wiser, I can definitely see the common sense behind the decisions taken by the government at the time. It really was a pretty clever way of supporting Finland quite substantially, whilst maintaining a defensive posture. I'm pretty sure the Swedish government expected the Red Army to continue to Sweden and Norway if the Finns had put up less of a fight, which meant that Finland essentially provided defence in depth for the Scandinavian peninsula, whilst retaining a reasonably strong border area. The Swedish volunteers never got enough credit for what they did. They left their families behind, believing Sweden was next for the Soviet wear machine.

@isaac6705

2 жыл бұрын

Who cares about the lack of neutrality? It was an evil war of aggression on the part of Russia.

@henrik3291

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaac6705 I am trying to say it was a good thing that we did not declare ourselves neutral during the winter war

@mountainside5978

2 жыл бұрын

Swedish support to Finland was very substantial if we look how big percentage of Swedens resources was sent to Finland. That big percentage sent to Finland weakened Swedens defence within Swedish borders. As a Finn I really appreciate Swedish thinking: Finlands sak är vår!

@henrik3291

2 жыл бұрын

@@mountainside5978 I remember the first time I watched the finnish movie "the winter war" about the brothers thate are sent to the isthmus, and about the horrible situation they were in and the gory deaths of ordinary men. I remember getting so emotional and so angry at Sweden for not helping Finland and sharing the hardships of war. However when looking in to it even more, I do realise that sharing the blood sacrifices with the finns, how noble it might seem, was not an efficient way to help. As I have added in an edit to my original comment, already the deployment and supply of Swedish troops in Finland would have been a logistical nightmare. It is sad that a lot of finns are still bitter over how Sweden acted during the winter war. However I am happy that some, like you realise that Sweden actually believed that "Finlands sak är vår" Or to quote Molotov "the finnish war? that was your war!"

Thank you.

wow, those rifles have been passed around more than my ex....cool video Ian

I just bought one yesterday that’s a crazy coincidence mines a 1899 Mauser produced rifle

Never realized how old these rifles are. That's kind of funny since I have one as my huting rifle and been actively using it with good performance

"I'm getting a little off topic here" That should be your catch phrase... :)

Bolt guns. Obsolete? Yes. Useless? No. Fun? Hell yes!

@Ontheregz

2 жыл бұрын

Obsolete? LMAO 😂

@peabase

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on who you ask. The Canadian Rangers use them, and so does the Danish Sirius Dog Sled Patrol that operates in Greenland.

THE MAUSER M96 RIFLE WAS GREAT SUCCESS IN JAPAN. THE COPIED EDITIONS, TYPE 30 AND TYPE 38 RIFLES WERE THE MAIN RIFLES OF THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE MARINE AND ARMY

This was the kind of rifle I learned to shoot with.

Vortex Nation Podcast did an episode on 6.5 Swedish ammo earlier this month if anyone is interested.

@BenjaminWeimer

2 жыл бұрын

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My fathers old homeguard M96 is SA marked and now I know why.

I actually have a SA marked m/96. Love the rifle despite some fudd bending the bolt and drill in it for a scope.

Talking about Swedish weapons. Next time you're over here in the Nordic countries you should do a video about S. A. André's weapons from his failed balloon expedition to the north pole. Some rolling block rifles. (S. A. A. Was criticized for not going with bolt action.) But the combination gun there is really an interesting gem. It’s a Husqvarna rifle/shotgun combi. But in a side by side configuration!!! There is a museum in Gränna (Grenna) you could visit.

I got one of these swedish mausers, 1907. Complete with 13 cut notches on the forward stock, love to know the story behind that as they are not evenly apart but delibrate

@bestestusername

8 ай бұрын

@@jensstolt1656 the mind boggles why the notched, was it people or deer

Wish this was a Robinson M96 video.

Id love a video about the cold model 950

I saw the 9 hole shooting video, and WOW was it impressive. A 121 year old rifle destroyed the record for the course. The guy said that he was not even using the ammunition that the sight was set up for and he still shattered the course record. The secret is the steel from Sweden. Sweden actually sent the steel to Germany to make those rifles.

Love your content Ian, but a bunch of your videos suffer from audio distortion, like this one. Consider experimenting with mic placement, gain settings, sound check before hitting record or trying out a different microphone or audio recording setup. A little goes a long way for significant improvement over the audio quality in this video.

@nixpix19

2 жыл бұрын

Just compare the audio quality of this video (or the hellion video kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2dnyM56ibqaipc.html or M16 video kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6WepLJvntCYn5M.html) to the quality of similar formats at other channels (e.g. techmoan kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYyB1sOThKWzqto.html or Scott manly kzread.info/dash/bejne/ooCZusSkdqq3fps.html). I'll keep watching either way, please take this as constructive feedback.

Swedish motto. "Finlands sak är vår!" In english; "Finlands cause is ours!"