There is genuinely no way someone can be this bad at flying.

@adamsavage6902

10 ай бұрын

"It is better to fly badly than fall well." - WT

@BumHoleTickler

10 ай бұрын

​@@adamsavage6902I'd rather fall well

@adamsavage6902

9 ай бұрын

@@BumHoleTickler you sir dont play war thunder then

@itzhotaki

9 ай бұрын

Everyone start Somewhere bro

@Britishball6

9 ай бұрын

@@BumHoleTicklerwtf is ur name

The definition of “its not the plane its the pilot”

@Esylian

10 ай бұрын

That is very true. It depends on the pilots skill. Not the planes defaults.

@yurimasayoshi9475

10 ай бұрын

You mean the DEFYNition?

@Jfk1245

10 ай бұрын

Kinda, if they had read a quick guide on how to use 7fs and 9ls they would have only lost 3-4 rounds

@hemendraravi4787

10 ай бұрын

You can't dodge 9L or r60m in head-on lol

@CircusJeanie2399

10 ай бұрын

@@noname.noname.3560 thank you

Basically a fight of a toddler with a machine gun vs a grown adult with a rock

@hypeflexington7081

9 ай бұрын

Idk... Darfur showed us that a kid with a gun will kill you just as dead as an adult with a gun

@ethanchristianson4922

7 ай бұрын

You are only defeated until the toddler says “wha du thi buddin du”

@massimovolpe1343

6 ай бұрын

​@@hypeflexington7081that's probably why he said a toddler. A kid can hold and fire a gun, a kid with a machine gun wouldn't be able to lift and aim it. Much like he wasn't able to fire his missiles that would have completely obliterated defyn as soon as he lost countermeasures

@appa609

5 ай бұрын

​@@hypeflexington7081Not if he doesn't know how to work the safety

@tadeaspekar9043

Ай бұрын

@@hypeflexington7081toddle is not a kid buddy

"Never flown a jet before" bro never flown a plane before 😭😭😭

@ThunderWithMuffin

10 ай бұрын

That might as well also be true

@blindless06

10 ай бұрын

@@ThunderWithMuffinWhy, do you just play groundbattles?

@mapletreepower7038

10 ай бұрын

​@@blindless06or just never played before????

@iwantmynametobeaslongaspos7194

10 ай бұрын

@@blindless06e seriously only plays ground battles like never touched air RB before because as a former ground main even I knew how to launch missiles before I started playing air rb. This is just an assumption but I’m guessing he’s never played before

@iwantmynametobeaslongaspos7194

10 ай бұрын

@@ThunderWithMuffinan you post a full uncut version of this I think it’s be kinda interesting to see or even do it again, I really enjoy you being really bad, no offense I think I would probably be just as bad or worse

In this episode I will attempt to run faster than my grandma! As for the passing out, I already told you but now I can see it. You're just entering a speed range in which you turn better 😅

@dnfluffles772

10 ай бұрын

Thank god some1 said it😅

@ThunderWithMuffin

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for doing this vid with me DEFYN!

@joragoon8587

10 ай бұрын

ITS THE MAN HIMSELF!

@lato5750

10 ай бұрын

Should've flown the F-100D

@Loudward__

10 ай бұрын

I just realised you used the 109K, not the 2.7 109

“ noob in a F16 vs pro in a prop plane” Well obviously the noob is a gonna win if it keep its spee- “The pro will be defyn” Oh hang on a minute

@Korxion

10 ай бұрын

That does not even matter as muffin did not even know how to use his radar missiles or ir missiles. Once there was no flares for dyfen, he could have killed him all of those times

@abroamg

10 ай бұрын

​@@Korxionalso the f16 turns at 8g at any speed, so staying fast made him not get guns on target

@vusherman1125

10 ай бұрын

it not about the plane, it about the pilot

@Timmytheman.

10 ай бұрын

F16 performs really well at around 500 mph

@Whiteghost785

10 ай бұрын

@@abroamg Drop to 800-750 kph and you can pull 10 and get guns on everything you want. But this guy obviously cant do much aside from fly in a straight line

When I thought noob I didn't think noob to the level of never flying a plane in War Thunder at all before. Damn. How is that even possible with the amount of hours you have.

@reentrysfs6317

10 ай бұрын

Maybe he only played tanks.

@joshuachen521

7 ай бұрын

@@reentrysfs6317 I thought if you plane arcade, you still got chance to fly a plane

@flashxcate

5 ай бұрын

I'm just slightly above its level and i've played for years, just tanks only and only like an hour every once in a while. Warthunder is a very hard game to master, it litterally tells you NOTHING and if you dont go out of your way to learn stuff you can spend a large amont of hours withoud getting good

@RyH-yx4ys

5 ай бұрын

​@@flashxcate Exactly. I've installed WT for the first time in 2017, been playing on and off since then yet its still hard to master bc I switch between Naval/Air/Ground frequently, I sucked at Air extremely until 2 years ago when I found out that I should customize my controls and when I did I got noticeably better, a factor that not a lot of players count, controls matter a lot.

@theogmonk4299

Ай бұрын

@@joshuachen521no real ground player plays arcade brudda

Also for the missiles, the tone will change when it obtains a solid lock. Then you can fire, as long as the target is within the circle and you move in the direction of the target. As for the gun, you won't get a hit from 2km out, unless you aim up. And might try this again, but use the speed and agility of the F16 to do boom and zoom attacks. Sticking to a 1 circle fight down low is what go you killed more often than not. More speed, more maneuverability.

@wfb.subtraktor311

10 ай бұрын

I dont think telling a noob to stop doing 1-circles is very helpful. I didn't even know what that term means for the first 2000 hours of playing the game, and he surely won't either. Even BnZ might be too far already.

@jacetheace55

10 ай бұрын

@@wfb.subtraktor311 Yes, although he does give useful information about the guns and missiles that he didn't know.

@Chrischi3TutorialLPs

10 ай бұрын

@@wfb.subtraktor311 I never heard that term either.

@wfb.subtraktor311

10 ай бұрын

@@Chrischi3TutorialLPs Case and point. A 1 circle is where both you and your enemy follow the same direction of turn, making a single circular shape with your combined flying. This is as opposed to a 2 circle, where both players turn in different directions to try and get a shot on the other, with each drawing their own turning circle.

@cyanide7270

10 ай бұрын

No, the problem was not once did he figure out that to get a lock you need to put the enemy IN the small circle to begin with. He thought it was just completely automatic.

I now wanna see a series where Defyn teaches muffin to not be a complete noob

@abdullahlibzo6914

8 ай бұрын

That would be a great series because it's hard to learn all this alone

@alexrobertson557

8 ай бұрын

@@abdullahlibzo6914 for sure, it would be really helpful for new players to learn

@pizzapower95

7 ай бұрын

he first needs to teach the other pilot to become a noob. because what i saw was not a noob but a first time beginner. noob indicates basic yet lacking skill and experience in games from what i know.

@phirn5878

6 ай бұрын

@@pizzapower95 I saw your comment a month ago when it was a couple days old. Just wanted to ask you to look up what "noob" originates from.

@blitzworldace

25 күн бұрын

@@abdullahlibzo6914 And then I can take this advice and use it against my friends and still die

as soon as i saw that red wing i knew it was over

@iwantmynametobeaslongaspos7194

10 ай бұрын

Literally commented the same thing lmao

@Fearless1247

7 ай бұрын

Solo wing pixy?

bro there’s a difference between not knowing how to fly on top tier and not knowing how to fly AT ALL 💀💀

The 100% throttle is killing me😂

@coookalo

3 ай бұрын

still doing it at the end has to be a troll

The reason why you where able to turn btter when you lost control is due to you losing a lot of speed allowing much better turning, mainly due to how gaijin made the flight model for the f16 allowing for it to turn way better at subsonic speeds, so no it wasnt a placebo you where turning better 😂.

@ixxxxxxx

10 ай бұрын

yep

@Omnidestrophic

10 ай бұрын

that is because the f-16 is a rate fighter. it's best turn speed should be around 400-450 knots if i recall correctly. that is for rating though. not sure how well that is modeled in this game. Plus he was on burner the whole time lol. so that pushed his speed way to high to fight slower planes and to slot in properly. but as said in the video title, total noob vs a pro lol.

@kingghidorah8106

10 ай бұрын

​@@Omnidestrophicrate fights aren't subject to speed. MiG19 and F5 were designed to rate at transonic speeds, F-16 is a very unstable aircraft and has an AOA limiter to avoid over pulling at high speed

@an000n

8 ай бұрын

@@kingghidorah8106all modern aircraft have an aoa limiter. That’s how the F-16 beat the F-35. They were still calibrating the F-35s limiter and it set to max

Live footage of a lvl 15 player after buying an F-4S

@arandomracoon1836

2 ай бұрын

lvl 15 is a bit too high try lvl 8

@tankace7605

2 ай бұрын

@@arandomracoon1836 nah try lvl 2

@sooryan_1018

19 күн бұрын

Lvl 0 with a few hundred points of experience

Try this with tanks sometime!! It would be super interesting to see if a noob in a BVM can reliably beat an experienced player in a T-55 or something.

@ivoryrick7734

10 ай бұрын

tanks r way more intuitive than top tier jets, i dont think it would work tbh

@jerrydabear7724

10 ай бұрын

ive beaten bvm's with panzer 4s. Just turn off your engine and ambush them through the side.

@qt9734

10 ай бұрын

Ho-Ro has entered the chat

@LogI_Bear

10 ай бұрын

just make dyfn do a tank battle with muffin:)

@AMFHGI

10 ай бұрын

@@LogI_Bear well, defyn's MBT is actually pretty good.

Couple minor errors: 7:28 P51H-5 is 6.3 not 3.3 8:38 BF109K is 5.7 not 2.7

@brianhopkins5441

10 ай бұрын

it probably depends on what game mode theyre playing in, if its realistic or arcade

@Wotplaya4

10 ай бұрын

@@brianhopkins5441 Still not correct then, seems to me he just pressed the buttons underneath the 5 and 6, which is 2 and 3 on the numpad. Either fat fingered it or was too tired to notice.

@oliverdickens3219

10 ай бұрын

Probably got confused with earlier variants like the c10

@user-uo7pe8jr6l

10 ай бұрын

there are other variants of this plane like the p51c

@joshuazeigler806

10 ай бұрын

He might’ve been using the P51 with the 20mm, it is a 3.3 in air realistic

from this day onwards, every day i feel like I'm shit at dogfighting, I'll come watch this video so I can feel better about myself

@ChemicalBurnGaming

Ай бұрын

he is still better than me haha

i like how he knows so little about flying a plane he thinks passing out is making him turn better but it's actually the speed plummeting because you fed all your potential energy into a woodchipper

I don’t know why, but I really want to teach him how to play some top tier nets and teach him missle and radar mechanics. That just feels like it would be fun to show him how it all works.

@Average_Crack_Addict

10 ай бұрын

I've had a friend who mainly plays 11.7BR I remember he invited me to his house and he wanted to teach me how to use jets (im a sucker at 6.3BR). To simply put it, it was like explaining a 16 century peasant kpop, he would just die.

@boravedat2931

10 ай бұрын

can you teach me?

@alanwatts8239

5 ай бұрын

He definately knows how it works lol he tricked yall

@evilchickengod2891

3 ай бұрын

I dont even know if i should be using mouse or wasd for control

Holding WEP the entire time means youll always be turning as slowly as possible. The reason turning seemed better when you blacked out was because the plane lost almost half its speed each time. Slower speeds = higher turn rate but dont go so slow that you stall

Your missiles weren't locking because you weren't aiming them. The small circle is the locking area and the big circle is the the area where the locks doesn't get lost after locking. You activate the missile, point the small circle at the aircraft and if it stops flashing, you can launch it

For heatseekers, point the little circle in the big circle at the enemy and wait for the tone to change, that's when it's locked. You can also use your radar which, if locked on (use the box thing defyn was talking about), will point the little circle at the enemy automatically. Then same thing about waiting for tone then launching.

@xlgapelsin6173

6 ай бұрын

To be fair heatseekers have a really hard time locking onto props

This is the result of level 9s buying an F4S or something lmfao good seeing how their perspective is… also this video reminds me of when I was learning to fly a prop for the first time

Absolutely hilarious, looking forwards to more content like this

Defyn, Defyn, Defyn!! Thanks for choosing him, he is my favorite war thunder youtuber player.

It amazes me how he still turns into his enemy's sightline even if he is faster. I'm a noob too, but since I've learnt to just build distance when I mess up a run, my matches go a lot better.

WHAT Muffin is using meters and km/h ? He is not using the freedom units ?! 🦅

@Ironpine27

10 ай бұрын

@@crappyyoutuber You can choose metric, imperial or knots in the settings.

@jakobmorris7609

10 ай бұрын

He's using the correct units😁

@onthing66

10 ай бұрын

dude he should use knots, its the correct one

@charisardmegax6556

10 ай бұрын

@@onthing66 While knots is technically correct from what i've seen over 40% of the playerbase uses km/h

@joshuapurdy7065

10 ай бұрын

As an American who plays warthunder I use the default metric system cause I used it for so long before knowing I could switch that I just keep it that way, besides I’d rather know my speed in knots then mph anyways

3:27 “I’ve noticed when I lose control my turning tends to work better” Defyn: *No*

So awesomen and glad you brought defyn. I definitely think he's the best pilot. Hilarious and its weird at the same time you flying the f16 and not know the controls or how to fly but still hilarious in a good way of course.

Bro didn‘t even trieded to lock him with a missle. Tipp: the AIM9L is all aspect and you need to put the inner circle on target in a range of 3-5 km

@soldat88hun

14 күн бұрын

not really, it won't lock a prop at all over 1km, they are too cold

To be fair. The F-16 is probably the worst top tog plane for a newb. The physics change so drastically for certain airspeeds (unlike in real life) every other airframe loses speed and gets AOA (Air drifting)

It’s not the plane it’s the pilot🎉

That's an interesting video. Really nice done. One little thing though, the P-51 DEFYN flied is at an BR of 6.3 if I remember correctly. It's the P-51H-5. Also the Bf-109 was the K variant which sits at 5.7 or 5.3.

@Onabudget911

8 ай бұрын

yeah

As soon as I saw the decal I knew Defyn was gonna wipe the floor

Now I know why there's a minimum IQ for the military. Because this was unbelievably painful to watch.

I mean Smigol is out there dominating whole teams with his prop

i know he hasnt played planes but,...HAS HE NEVER EVEN SEEN A PLANE BEING USED????

I think it's time Defyn give some 1to1 gameplay advice to muffin by analyzing some matches

@lyghtz7000

10 ай бұрын

true would be a great vid

@Caktusdud.

10 ай бұрын

DEFYN flight school. Honestly I need the help.

bro apparently never went into test flight when he was level 3 😅

Imagine Defyn continues to teach him and we see the results like 2-3 months later playing almost as good as Defyn. It would honestly be satisfying to see him go from playing this bad to like "whoa whos that"

Bit of mistake on the P51 and Bf109 BRs... those were 6.3 P51H and 5.7 Bf109K, rather than 3.3 and 2.7 respecitvely - the first models of said plane are those BRs, not the ones Defyn was using.

I have noticed that for most of the dogfights you kept your afterburner on. If you want to turn better you should brake and slow down during dogfights

Man this was so painful to watch lol I was screaming at my TV telling you what maneuvers to do 😂 I thought G forces, using your flaps, and controlling airspeed were common sense😂

thanks for being somwhat humble about your skills:) i can think of a few people who woulde edit all thier mistakes, so thanks:)

imagine u using a jet and got killed by a biplane XD

@Caktusdud.

10 ай бұрын

It's OK, I hunt jets all the time. Although the only aircraft I'm struggling to kill is the F-4 phantom the bloody just doesn't die.

Great video as usual muffin

I love how muffin just keeps his after burner on

fun tip to avoid losing control in a turn: feather your pull down button, for me its control and it allows me to turn very sharply for a prolonged amount of time. also you don't turn faster when you lose control

Love the vids

@ashleybonhomme4906

10 ай бұрын

First

Asymmetrical battles are definitely more challenging for both players than symmetrical ones

when using missile seeker put your target in the smaller red circle also dont use afterburner in turnfights

“Wait you’re behind me?” -moments before disaster

Learning how to use the missiles and basic aerial tactics would have ended this video far sooner. I am not good at aerial combat and I don’t think I would have fared too well admittedly, however Muffin should have utilized his speed advantage to put distance between him and Defyn, and use just the missiles. The F-16 can outrun most of these planes except those closer to top tier.

@soldat88hun

14 күн бұрын

Honestly as soons as he dropped from the mig he had no counter to sparrow, and so much speed and thrust difference that he had no hope of actually dodging, especially since this is 1v1 and you don't have to use your missiles sparingly.

Its really nice to see defyn laughing, we dont see that in his videos.

Defyn being such a gentleman dogfighting. Actively hurting himself in the aircraft he could do well in so noob could have atleast somewhat of a chance to hit him.

A bad pilot would have won at least half of the engagements. Too bad muffin has never touched a jet before.

My dad used to say" it's not the plane it's the pilot" since I was 6 didn't believe him untill top gun2 came out.

This video seems horribly staged

Defyn exercising humility while ensuring multiple Letters of Condolences get mailed out to Muffin's fam.

A very fun collaboration. I'd defynately llike to see more of that!

this video for some reason is triggering me

Please don't touch War thunder ever again

"wait, you're behind me?" - famous last words

Hmmm, interesting video topic, a very entertaining video indeed. Also are you able to do any chally 2 related videos?

I LOVE HIS CONTENT SO AMAZING!!!

@ThunderWithMuffin

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

HEY IM THE WORST WAR THUNDER PLAYER STOP TRYING TO TAKE IT FROM ME

@ThunderWithMuffin

10 ай бұрын

😂

"It's not the ride, it's the rider" - Sean Boswell. Fast and furious: Tokyo Drift

"The only chance I have is the missiles" Immidieatly lawn darts.

"i notice when i lose control my turning tends to work better" "no" 😂😂

Fun video mate, this was a cool idea!

F16 best maneuvering is under 800km/h, and you can easily got a 11g turn, use flap and air break to reduce speed and use your radar and CCIP to get the aim, use SRC scan since he doesn't have chaff, and if you have aim7, that's another story

Mustang has so many advantages here. Problem is there’s no reason a good F-16 pilot would be caught by him and want to take that fight. But here our unfortunate noob is essentially forced to turn.

"I noticed when I lose control...my turning tends to work better" Dewyn: "No" 😳😳😳

I've been playing flight sims since i was eight and it never occurs to me how unintuitive flying can be lol, it's everyone's natural impulse to fly directly at your target and try to move in straight lines.

Fun fact: the 1.7 br he-100 is a better dogfighter then most jets in arcade.

Damn even muffin is at the same level or possibly a bit better than me in planes. Lmao

In that F-16 you're like an Iron... like a Playdough Eagle!

Love the idea of this vid. And I love that it’s defyn!!!

"Today we take a pro who's one of the best pilots in war thunder" Eh, "Defyn" OH

My man has 10x my FPs and half my ping but complains that aiming is hard xD nice video though, this was funny thanks for being tilt proof

Keep up the good work

Good vedio..this remind me 4 years ago when i tried to turn fight enermy player bi-plane with my P-51 and ended up losing.

5:36 HE JUST WONT GIVE UP WITH THAT STATEMENT THE CAUSE AND EFFECT

Bro can't use Post Combustion I'm sooo annoyed hahahaha nice vid

I want to see a F-14 vs A6M2 like this for the final countdown’s sake lol

the key to victory in such a fight is flying up to make defyn slow and diving on him and then climbing again

@christiandragonfly5922

9 ай бұрын

and i think f16 has radar gun lead indicator

"First thing is sending you back to the hanger..." MISSILE!!! lol

This is less like "i can bench press 10x than you" and more like "i can run a marathon while you're still a toddler crawling and crying for momma"

Fun fact, the only time I've ever won against an F-16 in a fight, I was flying the A-36. I've shot down some weird stuff with the A-36, such as a Harrier, some Ka-50s, an F-14, multiple Sabres, a Russian radar missile, and whatever the French top tier heli is.

I love it, I love watching you autistically turnfighting absolutely everything he has and never changing your strategy, classic air noob moment/.

Don’t worry, you’ll fit right in with all the F-4S players

Been playing for 5 years and I could still only dream to fly the f-16

Now how did you grow so fast! I made a 2nd channel called ThunderMuffin but I didn't know you were a thing now I gotta re-brand

Me this entire video: "just put the *fuckin" plane in the- just put it in the small... Yeah you got a lock! Nope, there it goes... Man, just put them in the FUCKIN small circle"

How can judge if player is pro or noob in arb battles if there is literally war thunder instructor is flying instead of you. Go to sim mode, that's where the real pros are made.

Pissed myself when he fired a flare instead of a missile.

You should play with FRix, he's also a good pilot

u have to center him in the middle circle and then when u think it locked (itll follow him after a successful lock) launch the missile

Constantly flying at the highest speed is like constantly driving at the highest speed... Impossible

Muffin’s throttle input isn’t bound