F-16 VS FIRST JET FIGHTERS - How Many Does It Take? - WAR THUNDER
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Pretty interesting to see that once their missiles ran out, so did their skill
@dewayto234xd9
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Donut833
Жыл бұрын
I won’t say that they had no skill, but at the same time the F16 has a radar gun sight man. It can be iffy with a slippery opponent but I find it to be accurate enough. Kinda disappointing.
@neopolitan4121
Жыл бұрын
SO TRUE
@matthewshadle7131
Жыл бұрын
I know how to evade missiles with an me262. It’s tricky but possible
@MberEnder
Жыл бұрын
I actually got a few kills with my gun. The problem is that the F-16 only has like 600 rounds, so the cannon runs out faster than the missiles.
Funny enough the first F16 that got taken out was by a kikka which had much worse firepower then a Me262 let alone F16, max respect for that Japanese pilot
@Dave-_-
Жыл бұрын
in an original 262 it'd be still harder to hit because kikka's type 5 cannons HEF-T round goes 920m/s when any round from MK 108 goes only 500m/s. That's why japanese 30mm's are slower and don't have minengeschoß but are actually better
@ivanfromtheeast4709
Жыл бұрын
@@Dave-_- that’s why I’d imagine we’d see a huge difference vs f80 or f84
@FRFFW
9 ай бұрын
Japanese air target did a better job than the german one
10:59 of course it’s a cracked out kika player that made that hell of a shot. Great video 🤙🏻
The P80 Shooting Star and Gloster Meteor would’ve been nice to see in this
@KMZX_700
Жыл бұрын
mmhmm
@adriencoudert1083
Жыл бұрын
And P-59s
@ivanfromtheeast4709
Жыл бұрын
I think if the first match was p80s they would’ve won. Looked like the low velocity of the German guns let them down quite a bit
@sabrinaboisvert1141
Жыл бұрын
@@ivanfromtheeast4709 they have Mk 103's which is higher velocity than 50cal, same with Mg 151 basically
@ivanfromtheeast4709
Жыл бұрын
@@sabrinaboisvert1141 the mk108 fires with a muzzle velocity of 1,770 fps while the m2 fires at 2,910 fps so not only is the muzzle velocity faster it also has less drag
Bro the F-16 pilot in the gold plane literally just lowered and let his gear fly off on multiple occasions during landing and takeoff 💀
@Tanknuggets217
Жыл бұрын
That dude just spammed missles. Terrible player
@kaljamaistuuperjantaisin
11 ай бұрын
@@Tanknuggets217you don't even probably have tier 5 aircraft unlocked💀
@bipbap5079
11 ай бұрын
@@Tanknuggets217Itd be the best strategy here, its not bad skill, its just not being dumb
the first F16 player just spammed missiles, his aim with the cannon was honestly pretty terrible, not a particularly interesting battle to watch
@brentonwinslow9490
Жыл бұрын
Both rounds had shit aim
@bolognaguy3100
Жыл бұрын
ok 👌
@MberEnder
Жыл бұрын
That's kind of the point. The F-16 isn't just faster and more agile than a Me 262, it also has much better weapons. And yes, I did get kills with the gun. The F-16 only has like 600 rounds of 20mil, so it runs out quickly. And if you're questioning my skill, I will gladly 1v1 you F-16 vs. F-16.
@Westwoodshadowgaming
Жыл бұрын
@@MberEnder You're like "fight me if you doubt my skill" i love it!
@caralho5237
Жыл бұрын
@@Westwoodshadowgaming imagine if he just loses tho
fun fact, the head of the luftwaffe towards the end of the war actually used the 262 and mainly used it as an interceptor due to its exceptional speed compaired to bombers and the guns that were used on it, including the 50mm anti armor gun that could pritty much break a wing before you could say "bandits" if you had good aim.
@I_am_not_a_dog
Жыл бұрын
The 262 variant which carried the 50mm cannon (the Me 262 A-1a/U4) had 2 built. As far as I am aware, none were used operationally, and if they were, I highly doubt they ever would have hit anything. 262 pilots lamented their closing speeds with enemy bombers, as it gave them such a small window to shoot that it led to far fewer kills than one might expect. Knowing this, I can’t even imagine how difficult it would have been for pilots to use the 50mm. Case-in-point: If it worked as well, some version of it would’ve seen use post-war. The closest we got to it was the single 37mm cannon on the MiG-9 and MiG-15, which was specifically intended for taking down US strategic bombers. It was so difficult to use that pilots whom were exceptionally skilled with it in-training were awarded a special title, “Sniper Pilot.”
@vasiliymedvedev1532
6 ай бұрын
@mfil92 sniper pilot class qualification was created in 1971 so it definitely had nothing to do mig 9
Aim 9L and Aim7M was essentially bullying the poor 262s lol, Great Video.
@ThunderWithMuffin
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Native!
@ace_maker3492
Жыл бұрын
The 7ms couldn’t get enough signal to launch, I kept trying to launch the 7ms the entire time but the only time I got enough signal was in that head on
@Nativeat1YT
Жыл бұрын
@Ace_Maker Who need stealth when you have the ground lol
@ace_maker3492
Жыл бұрын
They werent even low lol, they just refused to get signal for launch, I think it might have been speed difference
Hi I love your content as a war thunder player myself I love to see these fun videos it really makes my day
@ThunderWithMuffin
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and good to hear!
The Kikka is a Japanese varient of the Me 262, not the exact same but simular
Germany never suffers!
@dewayto234xd9
Жыл бұрын
WTF🔥🔥🔥⁉️⁉️
@Phoenix44th
Жыл бұрын
Ja, Deutschland ist am besten
@TITANosaurus7042
Жыл бұрын
@@dewayto234xd9 what
@heisenburger1899
10 ай бұрын
@@Phoenix44th this is nazi Germany 💀
It's all shits and giggles until somebody giggles and shits
F16 try not to use missile challenge (impossible)
10:57 yay im on screen :D
Mig 29s vs Me 262s next time
Why no one using the Me-262 C2b?? Gives a little edge for the dogfights against modern jets. Would love to see a C2b engaging.
@darthnick1516
Жыл бұрын
Yea well the boosters would help but only a little. Also i only saw the a1 and the squadron one , so i guess that's what they had to use.
The F-16s have some cool camouflages
6:25 That is some extreme luck to not crash. If it was me I would be like “My time has come” 😂
This reminded me of how I, a P-400, shot down 1 F-16, 3 MiG 29s, and 2 MiG 21s *this was in separate servers in 2 separate days* Guess that’s what happens when you play too much Microsoft flight sim
It's so easy to dogfight 4th gen jets in 1st or 2nd gen jets. You have a smaller turn radius because you are slower when at max speed.
@di5ea5eairsoft6
Жыл бұрын
Thats y top jets dont engage in dogfights
@cideltacommand7169
Жыл бұрын
@@di5ea5eairsoft6 yeah lol, they just use their burst in a boom and zoom then escape the enemies range before they turn
Video idea: Slowest plane vs the fastest. This would probably be PO-2 vs F-104.
@sanya1216
Жыл бұрын
Mig 29 is faster than f104
In first round there was literally no chance for 262s unless the pilot us stupid. You just shoot your missiles, go to space, rearm, repeat. Big respect to the Kikka pilot.
New title - F-16 vs. ME-262. _*yeah, the title is slightly ocd triggering_ but overall great vid.
I like so much your content:) I would like to see, more of the historical recreations, maybe battle of Łuck, battle of Hannut or battle of Falaise? The war in Poland (1939) would be very cool, but we don,t have to much Polisch vehicles (like PZL-11, TKS, Karaś, Łoś, 7TP, Wz.34)
@ThunderWithMuffin
Жыл бұрын
More historical recreations to come:)
@adamklasa7270
Жыл бұрын
Thanks:)
A very ironic ending, considering that was how the allies used to take out me262's back in the day
Would love to see a Me-262 vs P-51 video
Can you please do a B17 Flying Fortress formation vs ME 262’s? Or a Royal Navy clash vs the Kriegsmarine?
@flappy3635
Жыл бұрын
b17 one would be awsome
It went by like we were standing still!
How every uptier feels
I ran into one of the Me 626 jet fighters while playing (it was fine art expert)
as we can see in the video no missile=no skill
F-5 VS Mig-23 or F-4 VS Mig-21 would be an excellent video
Honestly, while I find it cool to do these vs matches, the first round was obvious. The 262 can't climb. It's engines are atrociously bad (in RB) and with the enemy getting it's missiles back every few seconds, not a chance
@Tswa567
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, they basically just could and did sit at long range/high altitude and spam mach 4 missiles against a trans-sonic jet. Wouldn’t be different if it was bi planes or even Mig15s
The F-16A (warthunder one) isn’t in service anymore as to my knowledge lol (still great video)
Do Abrams against prop planes
damn i really like this type of content
6:21 My brain: hes dead My heart: hes dead My anxiety:💀 The pilot's radio: Freeebirdd!!!
get new 262 pilots who actually have brains
I'm ngl, great video, I think I had a stroke listening to the first 10 seconds of the video
The golden F-16 pilot was handing out freedom 😂
11:00 what a freakin shot.
Would love to be in a F-16AJ if there's another battle like this
I wanna see the best turning non-biplane the German flying wing vs f-16's with guns only. It's the ho 229? Something like that can't remember. Edit I guessed it right!
@Lolzy3014
Жыл бұрын
I think its the me 267
@TinyBearTim
11 ай бұрын
@@Lolzy3014it’s 229
@Lolzy3014
11 ай бұрын
@@TinyBearTim ah, thanks
we need more plane vs plane videos
This was fun to do even tho I died most the time xD
Time traveler: moves a chair The timeline:
Wow talk about a hopeless fight
It is the fastest aircraft weapon. 6k rpm is unmatched
@waldek7772
Жыл бұрын
russian GSH-6-23 claims to have 8000rpm
@damian_groovy_boys_drummer_man
Ай бұрын
Do they have proof to back that claim up
Anyone know when the dev server will be open again?
song during 3:40? Sounds really good. nvm, Shazam finally worked.
Sad the Meteor didn't get to fight there
Can you do a swarm of 1st Gen Fighters vs 4th Gen Fighters
I love how there's a kikka
Seeing everything get shot by the missiles is just boring
6:24 its like mere millimeters from crashing
W intro
Oye como consejo creo que sería buena idea que en una esquina pongas a tiempo real el restante de vehículos en cada equipo :V
Hmm interesting to see that their missiles are their skill and life.
Day 11 : OTOMATIC vs WII planes
Just flashing in my head, will be prop plane or Me 262 dodge more missile if they had missile detection thing? Because what I watch is they mostly didn't know if they got locked.
@TinyBearTim
11 ай бұрын
No
@warsuitgaming8692
10 ай бұрын
unless they had chaff, an RWR would be useless to them
Stupid question... is it possible to have true size battle historically correct battles in WarThunder player vs player...
do MiGs vs later MiGs pls
1:57 Brazil Showation
Damn, a team full of pilots that cant aim
Hi muffin…
I see a me 262 from Brazil
Why would you bring in the ME262 with the 50mm cannon? Seems like the worst option for this.
i have an idea why not trying 10 hstvl vs 10 2s38 or 20vs20
"All they need to cripple the fighter" Yeah I would say an F-16 is probably gonna die from average 2-3 30mm hits.
I mean... if you had Smigol, I think he's proven the answer is "1".
"Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby"
Need b29 vs all ww2 axis aircraft
The first part is just outright boring. Missile spam all the way, and 2nd round shows that pretty well after the two F-16s expended all their missiles.
Minor skill issue with the F 16 pilots... kind of disappointing
@ghostly6175
Жыл бұрын
Had the speed, climb rate, and weapon advantage and performed terribly. Could have just been because of the way it was edited but once they ran out of missiles they were terrible at dogfighting, just proves even some top tier players have as much skill as new players
As much as I love the 262 the meteor is older
How do you get the f-16 faster
Funny that when their missiles ran out they have no skill
Me wondering why none of the 262's led the f16 at a long range.
I managed to shoot down a f-14 tomcat in a french monoplane with 20mms it took a good hour or two but I managed to do it.
against mig 15 would be interesting
Its how many missiles the F16 has and after that it’s done
I think i said to do this one
That first round was less. What can the f16 do. And more of. What can the aim9L do
me 262 is not actuly there first jet fighter the he 178 was also queston do you say it me 262 (like the me that talks about your self) or m e 262
Bro put all the guns available on the ME 262 just to try win against the f16 💀
P-59 vs MiG-29
T35 VS Chr2c
i was there i died at 6:08 as well as 9:11 (i was Onzaie 1)
You shoud pick Mig 29
Was gonna say something dumb like "Dude where tf did you find these lousy Viper drivers? XD" but then I realized WT players are not always the best lmao xD
Bro Fired 69 missile from 1 F-16 it's not ACE Combat bro😂
With my skill the prop planes would kill me in the f16 within 1-2 minutes lol 🥲
The F-14 is more of a legend than the F-16
retty boring that the f16 got his missels rep bc that just seems unfair
Why you sound like the war thunder narrator voice
Wdym "first jets"? Those are Me-262's, the Me-262 is not the first jet.. I don't wanna be a nerd but like- the first jet was the Heinkel He-178.. And if you still haven't realised the mistake maybe you could actually make the same thing but with actual He-178's? I would appreciate it. Ik it's a lot to ask [if you haven't done it already, prolly not] since you probaly don't have a lot of time and videos take hours to make and days to edit, but I [and some other nerds] appreciate you for taking your time to re do it [if you do, and we all appreciate you already but we will even more] so yeah, have a good day (:
@no-om9fg
8 ай бұрын
The He-178's never saw combat so the me-262 is the first "operational" fighter jet
@Lithslav
8 ай бұрын
@@no-om9fg you got a point. But still, the He-178 exists
Me 163 vs f22 raptor
@carrott36
Жыл бұрын
The F22 isn’t in the game
What game is this???
@anderson._.._.8801
Жыл бұрын
War thunder
its not the plane the pilot
@cideltacommand7169
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, defenetly. Being 3 times faster than the enemy who have slow 30 mm cannons and having infinite infarred missiles is skill
Mig 21 về f4