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@justinfantastic4882

Жыл бұрын

commies... always locking up those who don't agree with them..Chomsky no different...Noam Chomsky says the "right response" to the unvaccinated is "to insist that they be isolated" from society and them starving to death "Well, that's actually their problem." don't give genocidal maniacs a platform.

It's incredible the quality of guests that we are gifted to listen here ... for free !!

@michaelstevens1085

Жыл бұрын

Here here

@annalisa14

Жыл бұрын

Hear hear….

So honored to get a chance to listen to the genius. Thanks Mr. Chomsky for everything you have done to expand our horizons!

An excellent interview. Thank you.

Great see Professor Chomsky looking so well and as sagacious as ever

One of my favorite series!

loved Chomsky since I saw him on "Men of ideas" circa 1973 . He is my philosophical father. I really needed tobe able to think .

Such a fantastic man mr chomsky. Thanks for sharing your brilliance for all the many years with your great work in your writing. "How the world works" is a must read. Thanks closer to the truth for all your hard word in asking the big questions to the big thinkers. I always look forward to your new videos

@justinfantastic4882

Жыл бұрын

Everything he said, wrote about was proven by by last u two years to be completely baseless..he is a joke and if in power a murderous one at that.

Bring on the other two parts! Nicely done, btw.

If linguistics ability evolved very quickly there are two options I can think of. One is as Chomsky says, that it's a very simple mechanism, but the other option is that it's an adaptation of an existing mechanism. There is one existing mechanism that we had by then, that other animals don't significantly share, and that's modifying and using sophisticated tools including fire. Yes I know some other animals use simple tools, but only at an extremely rudimentary level, in the same way that other animals communicate but don't have anything like our linguistic ability. Linguistic capacity seems to be related to the ability to think hierarchically and recursively, to think in terms of structured relationships, after all that's what grammars are. Well, understanding the qualities of materials, the sequential operations required to select materials, go through stages of manufacture, with the goal of producing a tool which may have multiple parts, for a specific purpose or set of purposes, utilised using specific skills and in certain contexts all seems to me to be very structured, hierarchical, relational thinking. In fact it may be that language evolved partly, or even mainly as a means to communicate information about making and using tools. I have no evidence for this and frankly I don't know much about linguistics, it's just a thought.

Thank you!

This was a great interview. Thank you for sharing.

So thankful for and to Robert Lawrence Khun!!!

Wow his line @12:25 "Google translator is useful like a bulldozer is useful" is such a great way of putting it LMAO

@fabiengerard8142

2 ай бұрын

👌🏻👌🏾👌

I appreciated what you said, "Politics is not closer to truth." Amen, I agree with that statement.

@rational-public-discourse

Жыл бұрын

But don't confuse the politics we see in the media with the term political as in participating in the political process. The solution to the madness in which we live is for the general public to have a say in what our government does and what its aims are or in other words to basically act as if we are allowed to participate in the political process and then go ahead and create a public platform in which we can do that in the most effective way. We have to presume the right to express our political voice and have the courage to build a democratic structure via a public platform so that we can free exert and wield democratic power upon government and our existing social order.

A very important interview of the most important figure in modern linguistics. Thank you so much.

Chomsky the father of modern linguistics, and the great great 6th uncle of the phrase 'yah', and 'ICYMI, and 'IMHO'

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

Uncle Six is a main character on Netflix's Wu Assassins. Just stick to watching what you enjoy. Don't hurt your brain. haha

@sharonmarsh3728

Жыл бұрын

Yah is the shortened form of the divine name, Yahweh. In English, that name is Jehovah. Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 12:3 and 26:4, also, Psalm 83:18.

Thanks

Hmm... Where's part 3? Can't seem to find it!

MERGE operation.

Happy new year

i just want the answers to the following simple questions 1. Has language anything to do with meaning. if it is a neutral symbolic representation what is the relation of its terms to the things it represents 2. What is the connection bewteen language and extra subjective reality - how can we make the distinction of extra mental objects versus thought if thought is embodied in something non mental - is it not physical to physical 3. of course there were no carburettors around in ancient greece but perhaps the idea of a carburettor was conceptually feasible and the innateness is not a pre programmed library but capacity for infinite permutabilty of space time structure

I don't think you can overstate Chomsky's importance within this field and within understanding humans and human states and understanding some integral states of humanism. We absorb languages across cultures and languages the way we do because there in brain structures that hold a mind structure pre-built for this. This is why it seems humans adopt things near instantaneously. Having a root code of language because this structure for linguistic adoption as well as all other forms of communications explains more than most are comfortable with. Differences in humans, like math or artistic geniuses, ability to pick up multiple languages is because of subtle structural differences. This root of communication might also help explain some folks ability to communicate across cultures without the need to speak the local dialect of language. Very cool episode, brilliant, fun to be continually amazed at the "stuff" closer to the Truth puts together, including well thought out questions that help walk through and link threads through a subject or conversation. Wonderful stuff.

@notanemoprog

Жыл бұрын

Wonderfully put! Agree 100% and can't wait for the next episode

BLOODY MARVELOUS! Bravo 👏

Wow, this topic really seems to be a strain for me to get my head around at times. But ultimately strengthens it when I do lol

is there language capacity in DNA? if there is language capacity in DNA, could something have triggered that language capacity to be used, where before it lay dormant?

The formulation of languages and mathematics and encryption and earliest computing languages..

Had it been a political debate, likes would have been in thousands at least, if not millions. That's what's with our times.

can simple computations in brain be compounded in the use of language?

how does Godel incompleteness theorem compare with language, in particular use of language in logic; and universal computation?

Will be a better 3D with shadows and richer implements.

Symatics is when people hear or translated it wrongly.

We must protect him at all costs.

language might play role in quantum computation?

Pff i need panodil all the time i listen to you mister, Noam and still never have enough.

Yeah its still here. It needs to be undeestood. This also Will need expert to teach. it's part of teaching materials for mapping, mathematics, music, etc...

Its unlike the current yes / no binary but will allow for more freer and smoother implementation.

Maybe you can ask him what his thoughts are about music and poetry as related to language structure.

@annalisa14

Жыл бұрын

And ask Noam what his favorite music is…..

@fc-qr1cy

Жыл бұрын

as someone who favorite number is 28 but by a 4 beat. i would love to hear that..

@Intact-gf5zz

Жыл бұрын

I'd LOVE hearing him elaborate in this area, have heard "outlines/hints" of his thinking here when he quickly alluded to them during a Q&A but was dying to hear him elaborate!! Both "the internal"/consciousness aspect(s) and the communicative/externalizing aspects of music/poetry are (duh) different from 'regular language', but obviously very similar as well, would be gnarly hearing his thoughts here!

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

Noam does consider music to be a viable model for the origin of language. Musilanguage!

@Intact-gf5zz

Жыл бұрын

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Would love a specific on that! Not trying to doubt...but I doubt that specific "phrasing"...if anything I'd expect he'd say "language & music (and mathematics) originate from the same faculty"...sorry (genuinely!) for how pedantic this Comment is, but cest la vie it's a Chomsky thought lol ;)

many thanks.

Noam Chomsky eating a sourdough bagel with sour cream ASMR with a smile and lip smacking mmmmmm I got the tingles😊

So we not getting last two parts?

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

what did you like about the first two parts? Or did you not even watch them.

@michaelbloom658

Жыл бұрын

Ya I didn’t watch them that’s why I want the last two, just to not watch them

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelbloom658 just making sure it's about your wants and not some fake "we" false pronoun modifier. thanks

They had been studying the economic, capitalism, work ethics, behavior, cognative system so much that no one talks about the inequality.

@notanemoprog

Жыл бұрын

Inequality is good actually.

@oliviamaynard9372

Жыл бұрын

@@notanemoprog no it isn't

@notanemoprog

Жыл бұрын

@@oliviamaynard9372 Yes actually it is

@oliviamaynard9372

Жыл бұрын

@@notanemoprog no. It isn't. Neither is slavery. Neither is starvation. Exploitation is bad too

@notanemoprog

Жыл бұрын

@@oliviamaynard9372 Yes it is. Only low-IQ totalitarians would want "equality", because brute force totalitarian terror is the only way it could be achieved. And only low-info armchair communists could babble about "slavery" "starvation" and "exploitation" in the same breath with "inequality"

Whether its workable or not we need Chinese experts also.

That's kind of great gardian of human being l never seen before and he is part of my life changing.

@fabiengerard8142

2 ай бұрын

That man definitely did change my life as well some tree decades ago, the very day I happened to buy a copy of "Manufacturing Consent" in a Seattle bookshop. The greatest mind of his generation. Utmost respect. 🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏

The areas after Chinese mainland, the rest of the landmass is currently functioning on its own.

I’ve tried very hard, on numerous occasions, to understand Chomsky’s take on linguistics. I feel I should be able to grasp the concept as it seems to be accepted as important. But, it just doesn’t fall into place for me as logical, therefore it always feels rather akin to the emperors new clothes. I still assume it is my inability to comprehend as opposed to an absence of genuine insight.

@josephazersky8253

Жыл бұрын

In the past I think I could've written something akin to what you've just said. I could really only recommend listening to some of his older presentations (not interviews or 'back&forth's') ***For me*** I think the crux of the problem was that I couldn't or wouldn't accept such a radically different viewpoint than what I had already found intuitive / how I already understood (or thought I understood) language. For a specific example, I thought/assumed that language was, primarily, FOR communication. I did not / could not really "intake"/understand the idea that, while you can communicate with language (or with how you walk or with how you dress), language is probably better-referred-to as "the form of our thoughts". Communication with others being secondary to the role of linguistics in "general consciousness/thought" (not "metaphorically secondary" but *literally*) Good luck, IMO it is well-worth it to understand this man (I'd be eager for suggestions on other 'great minds', only other author I really dig nowadays is Richard Dawkins)

@yp77738yp77739

Жыл бұрын

@@josephazersky8253 Thanks, not given up but increasingly frustrated at myself. I’d agree on Dawkins, but as a molecular biologist he is easy for me to comprehend, indeed I’d concur with his position on nearly everything. However it gives one a rather bleak outlook on what it is (or isn’t!) to be human.

@dimitrovajunkie

Жыл бұрын

@@josephazersky8253 "Communication with others being secondary to the role of linguistics in 'general consciousness/thought'"--this is Chomsky's view. There are plenty of linguists who take exception to this position and align with the more generally accepted point of view that language is a vehicle of communication. It is not what I would call a standard and accepted view in the field as such as your comment seems to imply.

@yp77738yp77739

Жыл бұрын

@@dimitrovajunkie Thank you, I was under the misapprehension that his was the accepted position w.r.t. general thought. Even when he explains it himself, in a simplified manner, I can’t follow his deductive reasoning.

@Intact-gf5zz

Жыл бұрын

@@dimitrovajunkie I agree w/ your post that his view isn't "the norm" (though to be clear I only know this because he himself has said as much, not because I'm well-read on linguistics in general) But "right is right" and so far as I can reason, everything he says in-support of his ideas "checks-out" Am actually sitting on 3 new books of his right now and devouring "What Kind of Creatures Are We?" which is greatly helping me understand the "chomsky view" -- would you be able to offer me any names or theories that "are in direct opposition" to his view? Obviously I can use google but I don't know enough about this field to begin to accurately 'vet' anyone, would greatly appreciate any 'leads'! That said, an idea doesn't need to be popular to be correct, I cannot help but think of how, many decades ago, you have people like BF Skinner trying to, basically, give a conditioning/behaviorist model for language-acquisition which - even to this layman - comes across as obviously-wrong. (Again though I am very open to new ideas, lol it was through reading Skinner stuff that I got onto Chomsky in the 1st place -- am ALWAYS psyched to find "a better/higher level" from which to view things, chomsky is simply the best 'overall' that I've found)

I think some took it as the bible. But actually it's for teaching financial instruments.

🍀2023

I haven't been to Africa or India, but if we just leave it to businessman and politicians, they will just dump money into anything without proper city planning..

@djmurps1587

9 ай бұрын

Like they more or less did everywhere else

I am lost.

Wrong! “The child is ignoring everything he hears in terms of linear order of language and only attending to the deep structures his mind creates.” That is entirely inaccurate. What s/he is hearing with respect to the linear order of words/language is also attending to the structures his/her mind creates. The two co-existing without conflict and the “external system” being as much part of “his/her self” as the internal. There is no independent biogenetic or bio mechanical set of operations apart from the undivided (ontological primitive) and translating consciousness. Moreover, “Hearing” (sensing) is not just on the surface, as it were, but inbetween and behind, conterminous or concurrently at every moment.

I flunked out of high school Spanish and got straight A's in college Spanish, and have read dozens of Spanish novels over and over again, looking up time and again every word I don't know, but I really don't know Spanish at all. Just a dummy, I guess.

However, all these countries all have different borders, currency, believes systems, governance, cultures, languages.. Now we are stuck in this conondrum of whether what makes us different or we are same. Which not that simple to solve using alogaryhtym

@_mvr_

Жыл бұрын

You're clearly using some sort of automatic translator and what you are (repeatedly) commenting makes almost no sense in english. I'm struggling to understand each of your comments and there are so many.

@notanemoprog

Жыл бұрын

@@_mvr_ A.I. in action

@_mvr_

Жыл бұрын

@@notanemoprog I am utterly confused

@notanemoprog

Жыл бұрын

@@_mvr_ A.I. _wants_ us confused, then they release those Boston Dynamics artificial hounds of Hell :)

if u wanna know more about everything, look into tetrapods, and how we evolved from them. etc

Even experiment they need to observe for 200 years. I hope they found answer.

@mickec5245

Жыл бұрын

The understanding of observations is revised as long as there are critical observers

CTT, could you interview Deirdre Carabine, concering Negative Theology and here book, 'The Unknown God'.

@bharat1876

Жыл бұрын

Who is the writer?

Darn was hoping to hear his thoughts on politics, esp. the CIA in Central & South America, also Israeli Palestinian relations esp him being Jewish.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

just search his name into youtube and dig in. Or you can read his books, etc. Or just keep hoping.

@steveng8727

Жыл бұрын

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Yep already did, curious if he changed positions in his later years. His debate w/ Dershowitz was amazing..

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

@@steveng8727 I'm listening now to Chomsky on Dershowitz. thanks

@fabiengerard8142

2 ай бұрын

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 * The Norman Finkelstein vs Dershowitz debate is quite interesting too!

Is noam chomsky claiming that linguistics is a study of thought?

"⛳N👁AM IS CURT 🏌️‍♂️"{ 🧎‍♂️}

E.E. Cummings.

If what I say has no meaning, I cannot be wrong.

Fucking hell, is that Noam? I thought it was Santa Claus mate!

OMG.. Is the world being run by only 1 person?

@notanemoprog

Жыл бұрын

You rang?

We are all evolved to be, storyteller's,, this why we all entertain, and embellish the story's, as children ,we are ready to receive instructions, hear the stories, and explanations, from our parents, mostly during 7-14 years. We are want, to tell our story of our memories of our existence. Your, journey. The story of your life

@pauljaru2698

Жыл бұрын

The world is made of stories. I can’t remember where I first came across this saying but it got me thinking about the enormous amount of energy we devote to story telling. The more you look the more you see things as story telling, whether it’s a child imagining or Hollywood spending hundreds of millions to make a movie. Indeed we are evolved to do this and it is basic to our nature.

@tracemiller9924

Жыл бұрын

@@pauljaru2698 The first attempts to save knowledge and then the written verbal storytelling. You access the knowledge of many brains, over time, with the written. We have only had the modern knowledge mostly complete now, 150 years. The children don't really want to learn from an a outsidr adult. They.actually want verbal, applied learning, son from father , daughter from mother. Verbal instruction and then actually do it. The knowledge no is now a lot more practicing hours hours to get into your head. You have have both applied and abstract learning, relating the verbal to the written. With the correct focus on the engineering basics first, then leading to chemistry and then to biology, psychology and then sociology. We need a new language a universal musical tone language that can be written in plain algorithmic recording protocol. Or the context of the verbal speech intonations and rhythm to the story holding more precise dramatic and melodramatic storytelling to the emotion of the story from written tone language. Well this is too much. End ...

Oh the mahjong.,

The universities spent more time studying Malaysia more than ever.

Rich symbolic language and art rest upon rich symbolic experience. We may have abstract ways to represent a nurturing mother. But a cow knows of MOTHER even though a cow doesn't do art or write books. Science may soon catch up to William Blake and C. G. Jung. I hope so. Also, a better example of no relation between extra-mental objects, things in the world, and words as complex abstractions which are not physical things: a shadow. Shadows hide physical objects without being an object per se.

Halo… has he ever heard of emotions?? Especially in infants who don’t know the words, but react emotionally to the behavior of the parent. Check mate 😅

They really went slumming

Haha, The Chinese Mainland is a separate system

@notanemoprog

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the Communist-occupied part of the Republic of China

Just look at Malaysia, they keep building and building and now its empty and abandoned.

Crime to poop on the ground. Crime to buy/sell colored dog food(Red-Yellow-Orange) My Law. Get the dogs out! NOW!

Mr "starve out the unvaxxed" over here

@fabiengerard8142

2 ай бұрын

Do try to use your brain cells sometimes instead of stupidly trolling. Or is it too exhausting ?

Chomsky is Great. But he makes SO MANY WRONG STATEMENTS and no one corrects him.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

if you capitalize words then you don't need to provide any evidence. That way your accusation is not a false accusation.

He even looks like Karl Marx with the same hair and beard; I suppose his idol. In college I bought and read his subversive books and I was enchanted with his one dimensional politics. Thankfully I grew out of it. Not so for many. Still, you can see the crop of socialist kids that colleges churn out grows and grows.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

you suppose? You can actually read his books if you want to actually not suppose.

@TheTangofrog

Жыл бұрын

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885can you read my entire post before you reply?

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

@@TheTangofrog You mean where you self-contradict your claim about Marx supposedly being Chomsky's Idol? How could you have read his books? Maybe you were a stoner in college or university? hahaha.

@RootinrPootine

Жыл бұрын

[sees politics based on empathy] I don’t believe in that made up nonsense!! [sees politics based on greed and oppression] SO TRUE!!!

SO IF i was a billionaire what are the chances one of my kids would be Trans..?

Dr. Chomsky wanted to put me in a concentration camp for not taking the injections, I don't find him very inspirational. But whats truly disturbing, is that so many people think he's such a nice old man and putting people in concentration camps isn't such a bad idea.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

you need to provide some quotes before you start making stuff up.

@sandro9uerra

Жыл бұрын

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKmFqpd6YrSaiLg.html

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

@@sandro9uerra what "left" has that clickbait title imagined up? Hilarious. There isn't any "left" in the U.S. - you mean the 10% in unions? Even a lot of unions are not "left" anymore. You mean Democrats? Democrats are corporate-state brown-No$ers. So How could a non-existent boogieman be "split"? hilarious.

@fabiengerard8142

2 ай бұрын

Another contagious minus habens in the wrong place. Is using your brain cells sometimes so exhausting?

Lakoff has demonstrated how inadequate Chomskian linguistics is. A student of his, he has numerous examples of how it fails to account for much of human meaning. What a joke.

@dsa513

Жыл бұрын

Please explain yourself at length.

@didack1419

Жыл бұрын

Ok but what theory or theories do? Don't just leave it at that. And how established those counterarguments are?

@santacruzman

Жыл бұрын

@@dsa513 No. Seriously, why would anyone interested in language and/or a theory of meaning desire a few paragraphs (at best) from a non-linguist when several more are required - and from someone steeped in the tradition and all of its problems? An analysis of the arguments and their evidence are the reader's responsibility primarily because it is they who in the end must consider the arguments and the type of evidence that support them. My initial comment is simply a warning flare fired from my little row boat. Lakoff and Johnson's (as well as others) work on metaphor and later, conceptual metaphor, is nothing less than a paradigm shift in the understanding of language and human meaning making. In their hands, language use and meaning are recast, not out of any a priori, formalistic nonsense as is the fashion of the Chomskian conceptualization and others similarly nourished in its platonic waters, but rather organically from the healing mineral baths of actual linguistic evidence from across many language cultures and many domains of meaning. There is simply way too much evidence to consider and way too many issues to cover for even a lengthy series of youtube comments to adequately address. But maybe you yourself sense the inherent inadequacies in the account of meaning we get from the Chomskian universe and his silly, even childish notions of, for example: Universal Grammar, Language Acquisition Device, to name just two. For a taste, I would encourage anyone to read the relatively recent entry on metaphor in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, specifically the section that addresses Lakoff and Johnson's contribution. This author in particular seems to have expressed, better than I seem able, this sense of a truer-to-life account of language and meaning that their work reveals.

@santacruzman

Жыл бұрын

@@didack1419 Fair enough! You sense that they - in fact - do not! (I rarely exclame, but this is crux) To answer you, Lakoff and Johnson and the numerous works of others from which they draw, as well as the many disciplines and domains of experience they draw upon, do present a rather comprehensive theory of meaning. To adress your 2nd, they are very established in reason and evidence. You will not find any cherry-picked, 'the cat is on the mat' type of Chomskian-conforming examples in their work, as a genuine theory of meaning ought to be able to account for any meaningful example whatsoever. If you mean, established, in the sense of by those invested in the Chomskian tradition, I could only speculate, but L&J's Metaphors We Live By, which was only the beginning (1981, maybe), is still commonly read in linguistic classes across this country, or so I am told. Its implications are vast.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

@@santacruzman metaphors? sounds like cheesy new age science. I've looked at their books - totally boring and stupid. Like some PR ad campaign.

Seems like in this interview Chomsky will stay in his "wheel house." Politics is demonstrably not within Chomsky's skill set...as his advocacy for socialism/communism is blind to the 100% rate of failure of this socioeconomic-political model in dozens of nations. Talk about a faith based zealously...

@sophocles1198

Жыл бұрын

A laughable statement. You might disagree with Chomsky but his political and historical knowledge is genius level

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

Жыл бұрын

you keep claiming chomsky is a communist. Your false accusation proves you know nothing what you're talking about. How about some evidence when you want to accuse people? Too spoiled to provide evidence or do you just prefer false accusations?

@oioi9372

4 ай бұрын

You don't understand that Chomsky already explained numerous times why your proposition is false

When they talk about the King James Bible being written by a Freemason that really got me interested.