"War is old men talking and young men dying"

@danieloliver9930

2 ай бұрын

by Franklin D. Roosevelt

@Vosk21

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like chomsky should button up then cuz he's talking a load of crap

@nab16

Ай бұрын

While the rich men gets richer^^^^

@Poum1935Alavictoria

Ай бұрын

@@Vosk21okay fashy

@Vosk21

Ай бұрын

@@Poum1935Alavictoria Appeasement is fascism. Russian imperialism is still imperialism

Hmm, it’s hard to tell someone keep giving your home to the neighbor whenever he moves his fence line cause he has a gun, and if you happen to get him on the ground just negotiate so he can promise he will be satisfied with the land he already took. And that It’s the rest of the worlds faults for giving the other guy a stick, 😮 cause look now he wants to fight for his land. Omg 😳

@ErickRus57

11 ай бұрын

Nice fallacy, that's not how war game works

@theislandgardeners6615

11 ай бұрын

@@ErickRus57 it’s not. But telling the guy defending himself to surrender because you are afraid your comfortable cozy space will be disturbed is not either. 🤷🏽

@stevedasbru

8 ай бұрын

That would all be well and good, except the part where NATO has been pushing it's own borders east for years and Ukraine wanted nukes so they could threaten Russia to back off and do nothing while they joined NATO. In the last negotiations NATO promised to move no closer to Russia, but they kept trying. There is always nuance my friend.

@theislandgardeners6615

8 ай бұрын

@@stevedasbru nato? I never heard of this country, and I never heard of them seizing land to push borders? If Russia wanted Allie’s they could have had them, they want slaves and land, do you think if Russia was benefiting the former soviet nations they would all have a good relationship? But 🤷🏽 who knows….

@MrCobalt

8 ай бұрын

​@@stevedasbruCompletely false misrepresentation of what NATO even is or what it does. You're either misinformed or you are intentionally spreading misinformation.

After watching this for 15 min I realized its on a loop

@degas

4 ай бұрын

Could you give us all a break down on what he said?

@far_centrist

3 ай бұрын

Lmao

@markblacker9425

3 ай бұрын

lol

@GnomeChomsky9999

2 ай бұрын

@@degasHe repeats himself a lot..

@runoz2839

2 ай бұрын

was it the edibles or shooms???😅😅😅😂😂😂lol.

That’s what they told Winston Churchill, imagine if he gave in.

@pekkanumminen81

7 ай бұрын

Hitler didn´t stop until his armies were beaten, Putin will not stop until his armies are beaten.

@donone1493

7 ай бұрын

Who they? The Nazis? NATO told Russia they wouldn't move one inch to the east no matter what, and they don't comply, Russi should not comply either and push NATO back to where they belonged

@theodurnayne3874

7 ай бұрын

@@donone1493 nato didn't move itself. The eastern countries fought to get their way into NATO. Because they wanted assurance that the eastern tumor that slaughtered and starved their people for centuries would never return. NATO is fulfilling its purpose, and Russia hates that.

@keithomelvena2354

4 ай бұрын

@@donone1493 There was never any sort of treaty stating that about NATO! Russia is the reason NATO exists. Seems countries line up to join NATO, BY CHOICE, because of Russia!

@louise_rose

2 ай бұрын

Elensky is no "21st century Churchill" at all

From the man who thought Czechoslovakia had a good time under Russian occupation and that Pol Pot was a nice man.

@Kamamura2

Жыл бұрын

You are quite ignorant - from an actual Czech citizen.

@valentinrafael9201

Жыл бұрын

@Esphaeras Praestans I mean, random person on the internet misrepresents someone’s believes is not something worth spending time over

@thereaperlord3738

Жыл бұрын

@Esphaeras Praestans I can’t provide the source for it but Chomsky and Edward Herman published an article in the nation questioning the extent of the Cambodian genocide and choosing to blame it on American bombers the high rate of fatalities.

@tunahxushi4669

Жыл бұрын

@Esphaeras Praestans .. Clearly Peterson has many good points... But the more we listen to him the more everybody realizes, just like you do, that he's become a nut job just like many of the left wingers he demonizes.

@existential_bengali

Жыл бұрын

​@@thereaperlord3738 Yes America has not done any genocide anywhere in the world. 😂😂

"Russia can easily destroy Ukraine" Russia already tried... "Easily" doesn't describe whatever they are doing right now.

@oliveryt7168

10 ай бұрын

How many nukes does it take to destroy Ukraine? Maybe answering this question would help you answer the question you have.

@HardcorePunkmusic29

10 ай бұрын

​@@oliveryt7168the use of nukes is not just the end of ukraine. Its the beggining of the end for the world as we know it. So no. Fear is not a valid argument to bitch out of, i mean "negotiate" out of this. 🙄

@carloscuevas6562

10 ай бұрын

​@@oliveryt7168If Russia even tried to use the nuclear option they would destroy Ukraine, but they would most likely be attacked by nato. But even then most of Russia's nukes are in the northern part of the nation right next to Finland.

@McHallel

10 ай бұрын

​@@carloscuevas6562 doesn't matter. Europe and US still would be nuked by russia

@grahamhill676

9 ай бұрын

​@@carloscuevas6562NATO has more than enough nukes at the ready to wipe Russia off the face off the planet. Meanwhile, Russia may have enough Nukes to disable like 1/4 of NATO. If Russia went nuclear, it'd be signing their own death warrant.

The same “experts” that said Ukraine would fall within weeks, are the same experts that are now saying the offense is moving to slow, even though they are exceeding expectations” - NATO General

@kinidiosodlosios6892

4 ай бұрын

yeah they did not count od USA billions of help for Ukrainians to die lil bit slower

@garrystubbs4891

4 ай бұрын

too* slow

@JoseP-hj5zo

4 ай бұрын

Exceeding expectations … Hardly 😅

@verbadum2298

Ай бұрын

Leaked documents show America know that Ukraine is screwed. That's the truth not PR statements by generals.

@dragosdoreldumitru6633

22 күн бұрын

The same ppl that identify as experts also said that Putin wanted to occupy all ukraine...they were wrong as usual

A great linguistics who's biggest mistake was to believe he was more than that.

@davidllamas2192

4 ай бұрын

"great"

@itsanameisntit

4 ай бұрын

He made a fortune investing in weapons companies before the Iraq War and admitted it. His money paid for bullets and bombs to kill people and he saw nothing wrong with that..

@VestalNumbre

4 ай бұрын

What does our Creator wrote about this subject?

@VestalNumbre

4 ай бұрын

As far as our Creator has written a book 📖 to benefit us and ao Isaiah Bible book even God's written word has a message that r All politicians All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17

@Johnny424-vk6qe

4 ай бұрын

​@@VestalNumbre Total garbage --> Romans 13: Rulers are ordained by God.

I can't believe he doesn't mention the third option. Many invations and occupations by a greater power have failed. At some point the political cost can be simply to high.

@funbarsolaris2822

8 ай бұрын

But the cost being too high is certain to be on Ukraine and not Russia so why do all this? Its just a senseless loss of life and destruction of economy. They said the glorious offensive would have taken Crimea 2 months ago and the Russians had run out of ammo fighting with shovels a year ago and Putin was meant to be dead of cancer for 2 years now! They are lying about Ukraine's strength and Russia's weakness, that should be apparent to all but the most fanatical and far gone war supporters

@JohnSmith-su3ze

7 ай бұрын

Fourth option: stalemate. This guy is dumb

@alphatrion100

4 ай бұрын

Normally yes. But for Putin no.

@henryraymond9204

4 ай бұрын

Donbas is Russian territory and this isn’t invasion. Most of the Militants are ex Ukrainian soldiers of Russian ancestry. You can not win a war when you don’t have support of the Locals.

@dfmrcv862

4 ай бұрын

@@henryraymond9204 Vietnam and Afghanistan demonstrated that you can win a war against a greater power by outlasting it. If these soldiers are of Russian descent then they can leave the Donbass and move to Russia. Donbass is not Russia.

Wouldn't Vietnam, Korea, (among others) prove him wrong? That there's a third option. One side decides to quit and go home 🤷‍♂️

@crocox7536

8 ай бұрын

Nope because those weren't even close to American borders

@tracewallace23

8 ай бұрын

@@crocox7536 😂 yeah because securing borders is so hard🙄😏 Maybe N. Korea can help😂😂

@BeatVisions

4 ай бұрын

Korea is still technically at war.

@baldeagledelta3482

4 ай бұрын

To add Afghanistan there…. So you see the precedent pattern, so you wait as it’ll repeat itself. 😊

@nsevv

4 ай бұрын

And Afghanistan that chased russia away. this old man is very naive.

This is the guy that denied Pol Pot's mass murder

@jacksonm2729

Ай бұрын

No he’s not.

@Cryptantha

Ай бұрын

@jacksonm2729 Yes he is an apologist for both Pol Pot and Putin.

@Cryptantha

Ай бұрын

@@jacksonm2729 google it.

@dukejivetalker7541

Ай бұрын

Yeah chomsky is just a mouthpiece

The man who coddled up to Russia all the way through his career

@hickoryhippie

4 ай бұрын

He is staunchly anti-Soviet Union. Don't speak about things if you haven't read about him. Read his paper, "The Soviet Union versus Socialism."

@baltomatveev7761

3 ай бұрын

🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

@ninaotan7811

3 ай бұрын

@@hickoryhippieAnti Soviet and anti Russian are quite different things.

@hickoryhippie

3 ай бұрын

@@ninaotan7811 So you're saying he's pro-Russian? The country of fiending-capitalist Oligarchs? You do realize this man is a staunch Socialist, right? Do you even know who Noam Chomsky is? It seems like all he's BEEN doing is calling out Russia lately. From his Wikipedia: "In March 2022, Chomsky called the Russian invasion of Ukraine a 'major war crime', ranking alongside the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and the German-Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939, adding, 'It always makes sense to seek explanations, but there is no justification, no extenuation.'"

@XxxXxx-br7eq

3 ай бұрын

​@@hickoryhippiethe United States and Russia were working hand-in-hand during the Cold war as a massive social experiment they were not against each other they were in complete cahoots brainwashing the entire world into thinking they were against each other

If Ukraine gets Russia out of its country, then it's an absolute win for Ukraine.

@millionakaz

Жыл бұрын

At what cost

@millionakaz

Жыл бұрын

You seem to be content seeing a country burn since you are not in it. Just like he said USA will fight Russia until the last Ukrainian. Russia never wanted to absorb Ukraine, it just wants it to never join nato. This man is completely right negotiation is the best way

@millionakaz

Жыл бұрын

And if you don't agree with that why don't you volunteer for ukraine, I mean their soldiers are die so they kind of need it.

@FireOccator

Жыл бұрын

@@millionakaz Dude, just post one reply.

@kevinfogle7929

Жыл бұрын

​@@millionakaz Putin has been very clear in his statements regarding Ukraine. He has flat out said that it shouldn't exist as an independent country. He has also said that the Ukrainian culture is made up and doesn't deserve to exist. That sounds like more that just not wanting Ukraine to join NATO.

Ukraine negotiated with Russia three times. Each time Russia broke the agreements. In 1994, Russia promised to protect Ukrainian sovereignty. It broke that promise. In 2003, Putin signed an agreement recognizing Crimea as part of Ukraine. He broke that treaty. Please explain to me how any sort of deal or treaty or negotiation with Russia is possible?

@xtc2v

8 ай бұрын

Ukrainian nationalists conducted an illegal coup against the elected government of Ukraine with the help of US. After that any existing agreements were void. How come Israel can invade Palestine to ensure its security but your side think its morally wrong for Russia to do the exact same to stop US nukes being sited just 2 minutes flight from Moscow?

@fanonaqt3206

8 ай бұрын

Agree

@kostantinosdemopoulos8907

8 ай бұрын

They gave up their nukes..if they hadnt... putin NEVER would have encroached... Global geoplotics( like Religions), are humanity's biggest sinkholes of slop

@peterlemonjello5824

8 ай бұрын

2014 revolution to put in Western friendly regime, repress ethnic Russions in the East, a KGB style secret police, refusal to stand by both Minsk Accords with the admitted. help of European powers Germany and France, The advance of NATO eastward. in spite of written agreements, the building of. Ukranian Army built to kill and bleed Russia for their Wester masters. On top of a Russian treaty obligation to take back Crimea should the Ukrainian government turn on the Russian speakers. there? Plebiscites. in “occupied territory” that were overwhelmingly pro joining Russia? Enough reason I think.

@MrCobalt

8 ай бұрын

You'd think most of the world would stop forgetting that any attempts to work with Russia in good faith will result with a knife in your back. Russia LOVES breaking agreements about as much as it loves playing the victim in circumstances of its own making.

Boris Johnson stopped negotiations. This could've ended very quickly.

@AlKeys411

8 ай бұрын

Facts

@_alienblood

8 ай бұрын

What fing negotiations there was no such thing stop making things up!

@move2003ny

7 ай бұрын

it was Mickey Mouse who stopped negotiations, against the advice from the president of Wakanda. Get your made up facts straight.

@Domesticated_Ape

7 ай бұрын

“Could’ve ended quickly” = rewarding Russia for invading its neighbour. The only acceptable solution is a Russian loss, otherwise they will do this again!

@fifikusz

7 ай бұрын

@@_alienblood You are ignorant. “Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement, Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.” Boris Johnson flew to Kiev in April 2022, next day Selenskij changed his mind.

This is one of those guys that can convince people dying is for their own damn good.

@Anthonyag42

4 ай бұрын

Like the armies?

@zachjohnson637

4 ай бұрын

Huh?

@netcurtains

3 ай бұрын

It is

@OleDiaBole

2 ай бұрын

Whose interests are Ukrainians dying for? Are you claiming they were couped out of care for them? Are you claiming they are armed out of selfles care for them? You think their puppet gov started horors against Ukrainian Russians, right after coup, without outside influence and instructions? What are you, 13yr old gamer?

There is no fool like an old fool

@atharvasuryawanshi7675

8 ай бұрын

have you studied his normal form of grammar ? can you even understand Theory of Computation ? you are not qualified enough to say him fool :). That geyser got brain

@JohnathandosSantos

8 ай бұрын

You're calling Noam Chomsky fool? 😂

@emeralddragongaming2930

8 ай бұрын

well you can / will take that title in time

@markkindermannart4028

8 ай бұрын

He's a liar, a faker, and has been wrong on everything that ever came out of his mouth@@JohnathandosSantos

@bodhisattva4eva

8 ай бұрын

The folly of a young fool!

Anyone who believes that negotiations can work in Ukraine has a fundamental misunderstanding of this war.

@user-mm3nr1xh5r

Жыл бұрын

да,американскому империалисту русофобу лучше знать

@user55book

Жыл бұрын

Yes negotiations can work There is a logical way out of this which is neutral Ukarine

@sababugs1125

Жыл бұрын

​@@user55book no they cannot , delusional nationalists like Putin must understand that their irredentistism will fail

@pupssss6

Жыл бұрын

@@user55bookUkraine was neutral and we remember what happened in 2014.

@user55book

Жыл бұрын

@@pupssss6 since NATO blatantly invited Ukarine in 2008, ignoring Russia's logical concerns, then NATO's interference in the 2014 elections, you cannot say Ukarine was neutral

If you think negotiations end Russian expansion and makes them stop with what they have now, you are a fool.

@donone1493

7 ай бұрын

NATO expansion to Russian borders since 1991, that's what make Russians push back fascist NATO

@danielponiatowski7368

7 ай бұрын

i know they should never be underestimated, they've bounced back with a vengence on more than one occasion.

@piotrang8634

7 ай бұрын

Chomsky?? The world's leading leftist... he barely speaks but he still sips his venom of the leftist pro russian propaganda. Sick.

@aoeu256

7 ай бұрын

russia has a demographic time bomb, and do you really think they can take on the combined forces of Poland, Germany, Baltic, Sweden, etc... if they can barely win in Ukraine?

@greyalien4944

5 ай бұрын

This aged badly as they have stopped after capturing the Eastern region as they stated

There does not even need to be 'negotiations', Russia just needs to leave Ukraine, the country it invaded. The war would be over within hours after a retreat.

@user-rc6wc3tf5r

4 ай бұрын

The war can stop in a few days when US stops funding Ukraine

@arvindkatiyar526

4 ай бұрын

That will be a big mistake NATO will be closer to Russia than they could imagine right now Nato countries are devided over continuing support to Ukraine,one wrong move Russia will break again as the USSR did

@slimmdusty8809

4 ай бұрын

That’s not how reality works, be serious why would they do that?

@user-rc6wc3tf5r

4 ай бұрын

@arvindkatiyar526 Russia 🇷🇺 have to defend its own Russian blood in Eastern Ukraine. Look at those Nazis and also the Zionist Zelenskyy treat ethnic Russians

@zachjohnson637

4 ай бұрын

Well you just tell them that and I’m sure they’ll listen…Okay?

The issue with negotiation is that it presumes both sides are on equal footing to negotiate and that both sides have legitimacy. If I said "We should end the Iraq war by negotiating", Chomsky would rightly laugh at me and say "we don't need to negotiate, we just have to leave." The Iraq war was OUR doing, and it was OUR responsibility to leave. Not negotiate, just leave. Same with Russia. They don't need to negotiate. They just need to pull their troops out, that simple.

@michaeljarawley

Жыл бұрын

Difference is. Ukraine under nato is on russias doorstep. I would hate to see what happens if russia lost that war. Iraq 1000s of miles away, there was no threat to US and never was.

@jaredgreathouse3672

Жыл бұрын

@M JAR you're right Iraq wasn't a threat, but the only reason NATO is popular is because Russia is an aggressive force in the region. If not, NATO wouldn't be popular. The fact that Russia is so aggressive creates the problem it claims to want to solve.

@michaeljarawley

Жыл бұрын

@@jaredgreathouse3672 I'm listening to two points of view and seeing russias point about nato expanding East to russias border and they seen that as a security risk. Should nato and the heads of ukraine respected that by saying that ukraine will not join Nato? I just like to see it from the other side The US nearly going to war with Russia because of the cubin missile crisis again because of security concerns. Should there not be a buffer zone between Nato and Russia to rid of any paranoia.

@jaredgreathouse3672

Жыл бұрын

@M JAR NATO expanded east because of Russia. Russia is an aggressive force in its region of dominance, so its natural that NATO is popular to protect themselves from Russia. So again, the Russians create the problem they say they want to solve. Either way though, Russia is the one who invaded Ukraine. So talking terms with them doesn't make any sense. The moment you attack aggressively (while giving Blood and Soil speeches), the moment you invade a country and attack the capital, negotiations become pointless.

@jaredgreathouse3672

Жыл бұрын

@M JAR Nobody, even NATO, is going to literally invade Russia. So, as with the Iraq analogy, we didn't need to negotiate. We just had to leave. No negotiation. No assurances. Just leave. Same with WW2. When Hitler attacked Poland, the Poles should've (and did) fight back. They didn't need to negotiate. No need to make a treaty. No need to talk terms. The Nazis just had to leave. And they didn't leave, and millions died because of it. When you are the aggressor, you lose the right to ask for negotiation. If someone breaks into my house, the only negotiating they'll be doing is with my combat knives. If they don't want that, they need to leave.

Loved hanging with Noam on Boston Common back in 2016-2019

Everyone in the comments seems upset about what he is saying but nobody is saying anything to counter his argument.

@pekkanumminen81

7 ай бұрын

If Russian losses are too high war will stop. Putin is criminal and mad dictator. I don´t believe (like Aqualung here) that Russians are willing to keep fighting and dying against better equipped Ukraine for years, if there is no victory in sight.

@justliberty4072

5 ай бұрын

There are hundreds of comments countering his 'argument'.

@123456789987o

4 ай бұрын

Putin doesn't want to negotiate. As simple as that

@user-fp7rc6sp5t

4 ай бұрын

I just have!

@luisjavierkanchi6872

4 ай бұрын

There is no argument, he is just spewing nonsense

I wonder how Noam would respond if I took over half of his house?

@lawoull.6581

4 ай бұрын

He would negotiate with you 🏃 🐜

@timurermolenko2013

4 ай бұрын

oh well I guess he'd agree to cede a room

@captlazer5509

3 ай бұрын

He would hold up in his bathroom because he is full of shit.

@muhammaDEsmustafa

3 ай бұрын

Ironic since the weather support the Israeli occupation of the OPT unconditionally. Do you see?

@Spookie425

3 ай бұрын

He would try to negotiate the social contract and division of labor with you

Noam Chomsky seems to forget that Ukraine did his second proposition back in 2014. They negotiated a peace settlement and Russia took Crimea. Fast forward 2021 and we're back to the same situation.

@move2003ny

7 ай бұрын

noam chomsky has a great selective memory. He only remembers the thing the US has done wrong.

@katrinweigel3796

4 ай бұрын

2014 was undoubtedly a coup, initiated and supported by CIA. The west broke all trust and agreements given to Russia in the 90 respecting their natural interest for safety through NATO enlargement. Do you think the US would tolerate Russian weapons at the Mexican Borders? Hell no!!

@binks3371

4 ай бұрын

You mixed up the order. The US overthrew a legitimate government, then Russia took Crimea.

@lostlogic6911

4 ай бұрын

@@binks3371 care to back up your allegations with facts? If you can't prove the US is involved in this, then it is useless.

@ViacheslavIvantishin-ud7qt

4 ай бұрын

My dear you are totallywrong, sorry. Its totally visaversa. Remember minsk agreements? So, Ucraine constantly broke them, not once but all of them. Do you know that Russia entered Kiev!! In March, just one month from the beginning? They could finish the war in 2 months or less. Now answer me please, why Russians now are very far from Kiev and victory? If you really interested ill tell you. Take to the account we live time of disinformation principally in tv, social media and they never! say the truth...

I like how he completely disregards Russian moral, sanctions, historical examples like Afghanistan and Vietnam etc.

@BuGGyBoBerl

Жыл бұрын

he didnt. did USA get destroyed in vietnam war? no. they got drove out. just like he said.

@zerotsolar9742

Жыл бұрын

Bro if Russia leave today and say we lose, just to remind everyone that look at this “They already razed Ukraine”. Now sum up that USA gave a reason to Russia to throw nukes if things go out of hand…

@MattHatter_Golf

Жыл бұрын

I like how you disregard the circumstances. Russia is the strongest nuclear force in the world and their crazy president is dying. Worst case scenario, NATO joins, defeats Russia only watch the world obliterated in front of our eyes by nuclear weapons. Another worst case is that Ukraine does it alone which is not probably and Putin’s ditch efforts are nuclear weapons. Best case scenario, the previous two without the bombs but the scenario that is most likely with least fatalities is that Ukraine loses the war on their own ground and Russia happily walks away. The problem with Ukraine winning the war is that in any circumstance of that, the nuclear bombs could be dropped.

@chopper-unofficial4935

Жыл бұрын

@Hatter Trips this isn’t relevant at all? I’m arguing that russia will lose, you’re trying to argue that thats somehow a bad thing. And on your point, should we just let russia do whatever it wants because it has a nuclear program with global reach? Does that same logic apply to the USA, China, France, UK etc.?

@chopper-unofficial4935

Жыл бұрын

@BuGGyBoBerl the USA’s military capability in Vietnam was indeed destroyed by lack of moral and political pressure.

I remember what Mr Chomsky said during the covid crisis. It basically went against everything he stood for during his life.

Chomsky is like a real life Gandalf.

@justinlavine9209

3 ай бұрын

Lol

@Cryptantha

3 ай бұрын

More like wormtongue

Ukraine doesn't have to win the war, they only have to outlast the Russians. This worked against the USA in Vietnam and against Russia in Afghanistan. It can work for Ukraine.

@crocox7536

8 ай бұрын

It can't because Vietnam and Afghanistan weren't outside of Moscow . Pretty simple

@soulsofdeath2569

4 ай бұрын

Vietnam war we were winning against and it wasn't till the media painted the picture of lost that we started to pull out due to public outrage. Hippies like Noam who were against war due to USSR subversion made the war to be a lost when it wasn't. Due to the US pulling out its worse then it was before. If we stuck to are guns and followed through with it they would of been better off.

@nsdapcommunism2780

4 ай бұрын

Russia will never pull out from Ukraine like weak americans or soviets did with Vietnam and Afghanistan - this is an existential threat to them

@pacho6821

4 ай бұрын

​@@nsdapcommunism2780 exactly

@Iknowknow112

4 ай бұрын

@@nsdapcommunism2780the USA pulled out of Vietnam because they should have never been there to begin with! Russia is fighting American aggression in the Ukraine, so the Russians don’t have a real choice unless the USA decides to end this with a simple phone call or statement that Ukraine will not ever be part of NATO.

he's lost it. i used to value his opinion. He's clueless on this one.

@millionakaz

Жыл бұрын

You are the clueless one

@DarkaDusty

Жыл бұрын

@@millionakaz no this man is not right.

@fabiengerard8142

Жыл бұрын

@@millionakaz *These guys are just illiterate barking haters who understand nothing about big geopolitical issues. 🙄 Let them languish in their abyssal ignorance.

@robjworkshop5692

4 ай бұрын

In your opinion...

@annnee6818

4 ай бұрын

​@robjworkshop5692 Or like... just factually. Because look at Russia. It's mot going well. And he's wrong that negotiations with Russia would do any good, they've broken all relevant treaties, why would anyone believe a proven liar

Noam is totally off the mark. Sometimes it's ok to just fade away.

@RP1967_G

8 ай бұрын

Why coz he Jewish and speaks against Zionists ? David man. Go figure!

@MouhibBayounes

6 ай бұрын

Wtf are you saying he is certainly sharper than you. What he said is very accurate and I would to see how a neutral ukraine isn't a solution.

@justinlavine9209

3 ай бұрын

Because he's speaking the truth. Everybody in the US wants the war in the Ukraine to continue. Nobody cares how bad it gets for either side. Nobody in the US wants to see any compromise or negotiation between those countries because Americans believe that every war they believe in is just. Americans don't understand that bombing and killing and torturing and raping people is wrong when they're doing it, and they refuse to believe anybody but their enemy is doing those things. He's being honest and there's not one American that wants to hear the honest truth.

@Poum1935Alavictoria

Ай бұрын

Are you on drugs

When this man had a son he named him Book.

He us wrong....did Vietnam, korea, afghanistan, or the russian-Afghan war end by negotiation or destruction? Nope, the stronger power can simply decide to leave.

@C0urne

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen the screenshot of what Chomsky wrote about negotiations in his book At War with Asia? Oh the irony.

@michaeljarawley

Жыл бұрын

What if any of those countries was on the US doorstep? Would the US leave, not in our lifetime. So leys say mexico was infiltrated by Russian counterparts and trained the mexican army, would the US have sat idle? Na

@craftpaint1644

Жыл бұрын

It's interesting that everyone keeps comparing Ukraine to Vietnam. Ideologically Ukraine is very nearly identical to North Vietnam right now. 🇺🇸👁️🇷🇺

@AristarchusEsti

11 ай бұрын

They were completely destroyed lol.

@dudeman5303

11 ай бұрын

​@@craftpaint1644no they arent??? Are you kidding me??

Russia has had one hell of a time with a country they could 'easily destroy'

@Giganfan2k1

7 ай бұрын

I think he is saying "nuking into oblivion". That won't work. For a number of reasons. US knows what Russia is doing before Russia does. If US knows there is probably a NATO plan. When were those nukes made? Have they been properly maintained? Will China back up nuking Ukraine? Russia knows how it would end. That is why they haven't done it yet.

@Diogenes_Lantern.

7 ай бұрын

Russia could easily send their nukes on Ukraine and destroy it. It will not happen, but they could.

I am going to save this video to share with my Chomsky fan friends.

@patricknorton5788

5 ай бұрын

Good for you. It is hard to change their minds, but it is good to try.

Long life to you Noam - the few Americans who speak sense on Palestinian and other global matters.

@Vosk21

2 ай бұрын

by his logic here regarding ukraine/russia, palestine should just try negotiating with israel and the conflict would go away. That or they can be destroyed. So which is it?

As a Ukrainian I am proud to present the Darwin Award to Chomsky ! 🎉 congratulieren 🎉

@allenk6373

8 ай бұрын

all Putins army can is just destroy random civilian houses as they did for last 8 mounth

@MikeSmith-mp2dt

8 ай бұрын

Well, Darwin Award is more likely to be won by Ukraine , you are in a good way

@paulfranklin4276

8 ай бұрын

By defending themselves

@theodurnayne3874

7 ай бұрын

@@MikeSmith-mp2dt Ukraine is going to outlive chomsky

@rinalore9416

7 ай бұрын

@@theodurnayne3874 Bad timing.

This is not about NATO expansion. This is about the right to self determination, the right to be a sovereign state. NATO does not expand as if it is a threat. It is a DEFENSIVE organisation, the only threat it poses is to those totalitarian regimes who seek to undermine sovereignty, self determination and the right of a people to have democratic freedom. It is Russia that is the threat, not NATO, if Putin's Russia did not exist, NATO would dissolve. If NATO did not exist would Putin's Invading army dissolve ? So now you have the answer to who is the threat. You assume that you can negotiate with Putin. We negotiated with Putin in the Minsk agreement and see how that went. Crimea, Donbas etc is no different to the Sudentenland.... Have we learned nothing

@bobogogo1671

Жыл бұрын

What were you smoking since 2000 ⁉️⁉️⁉️

@simonfoley4984

Жыл бұрын

@@bobogogo1671what's your point / argument / disagreement ? That this is all about NATO expansion or that you believe you can negotiate with Putin ?

@spagooter1807

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it’s fair to say Nato is not a threat to Russia because strictly from their point of view we are a massive threat to their rule potentially in the future. Putin got greedy and tried to secure the food and ocean access as well as Ukraines large population for himself and it failed

@chrispower9469

Жыл бұрын

We’ll said

@donovan4222

Жыл бұрын

Right and by “right to self determination” you just mean having a pro western government in Ukraine instead of a pro western one. “NATO expansion” was literally a policy objective or Bill Clinton, so yeah, it does expand. And no, NATO offensively invaded Yugoslavia, Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq, none of which attacked any NATO country. The US doesn’t care about democracy or freedom, and Chomsky knows this, you don’t.

I stopped listening to him when I found out that he is on Epstein's list.

When this philosopher understands there's no winning in wars, then I'll be happy.

If Ukraine negotiates its gonna fall anyway, negotiation is just as much a tool for the invader as war is. Negotiation didnt stop Germany from invading Czechoslovakia nor did it stop North Vietnam from invading South Vietnam, Ukraine fights because it knows it can fall either way and knows that Russia has in the past given up without being destroyed (WWI)

@xcrockery8080

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Anybody calling on Ukraine to prioritise "negotiation" above self-defense is basically saying they want Ukraine to surrender to its Russian invaders.

@michaeljarawley

Жыл бұрын

​@@xcrockery8080 okay lets say ukraine keep defending themselves. Whats the end result? We know the result, unfortunately more ukranian deaths. Also note this could have been avoided last april where there was agreements to end the war. Giving donbass area to govern independently from ukraine. UK under boris said no to this agreement and here we are.

@xcrockery8080

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeljarawley The Donbas already had autonomy. Putin has openly told us that it isn't freedom or self-determination that motivates him - Putin has an imperialist plan. He openly boasts about it. This war will be over when Russian troops cease to illegally occupy land that does not belong to Russia.

@ErickRus57

11 ай бұрын

Ukraine fights because it is not zelensky clown and corrupt leaders in the front line

@xxcoldsteelexx

11 ай бұрын

Russia attempted to negotiate for 8 years. Ukraine admitted that Minsk was negotiated in bad faith, but nevertheless Russia didn't act. Several times before the war, Russia pressed Ukraine and the US to negotiate, including in December of 2021. The US ignored it, and it led to the invasion. Nevertheless, negotiation continued to be attempted, and in early March, negotiations were scuttled by the US, according to former Israeli PM Neftali Bennett. Negotiations continued to be attempted in late March/ early April in Istanbul, Turkey, and a tentative deal was reached between the two nations. However, this time British PM Boris Johnson intervened to crush the chance at peace, demanding that Zelensky attempt peace, and stating on behalf of the collective west that even if Zelensky was ready for peace, the west was not. People demanding no negotiations are, in fact, demanding the continued destruction of Ukraine on behalf of the US and western empire, when the alternative are reasonable demands. War hysteria has poisoned the discourse and poisoned peoples minds. Putin is not hitler, that's said about whoever the enemy is every single war. You'd think people would learn their lesson.

Once again, Noam knows all! Truly, a legend in his own mind.

@graytoby1

8 ай бұрын

Wasn't he on epsteins flights logs?

@ianosborne188

8 ай бұрын

OBOMBA LOVED THIS GUY 😮

@MrCobalt

8 ай бұрын

He looks too much like Santa with a meth problem for me to take anything he says seriously.

@bodhisattva4eva

8 ай бұрын

Fine a comment about the man, but saying nothing about the substance

@WHS_reviews

8 ай бұрын

​@@bodhisattva4eva: Chomsky is a moran (deliberately spelled this way), as he shows in this video, no further explanation is needed.

That is completely nuts. Chomsky has completely lost it.

@MustaphaRashiduddin-zx7rn

7 ай бұрын

you're claiming he lost something you never had to begin with

@donone1493

7 ай бұрын

Just because he's not proukranian and you are do any mean he's insane ,but you are definitely

@piotrang8634

7 ай бұрын

Chomsky?? The world's leading leftist... he barely speaks but he still sips his venom of the leftist pro russian propaganda. Sick.

@nikolajkrarup-os9gn

7 ай бұрын

No. He is spot on as usual.

@GuinessOriginal

7 ай бұрын

Because you say so without any justification? And who tf are you? Some no Mark who’s biggest achievement is getting 25 likes. Go back to your middle management job and stop getting ideas above your station. You think exactly what you’re told to think and nothing else, so don’t try and come across like you’re some genius

The best of the best Mr. CHOMSKY ,, remember me of 1 of my teachers in the POLITICS FACULTY , who was a veteran Ambassador at the arab League before quitting and going to teach at Morocco and in lebanon ( my Lebanese University ) .

Professor Chomsky is a linguist by training and an insightful political commentator by natural talent. He does NOT know anything about the nuts-and-bolts of war. This is an appeal to the experts who are, in fact not at all experts in the field. I also wonder about his judgement and discernment: why would he even agree to pontificate on the Russian invasion of Ukraine?

@queentamada786

9 ай бұрын

I believe he does this with purpose not out of his ignorance or lack of knowledge. he is an active part of dangerous post-soviet Russia's propaganda machine inserted in the west

@starbirthcalamity

8 ай бұрын

Here’s a thought. It’s not Noam Chomsky. It’s a deep-fake.

@johnharrison2511

8 ай бұрын

I consider him to be representative of the lunatic class, not capable of coherent logic or basic assessment of even the simplest mechanisms, and sadly lacking in any meaningful value system. Not rare, and easily found in academic circles due to the lack of any practical application or purpose.

@tomosbon7347

8 ай бұрын

Chomsky is a political hack- a Marxist ideology promoter. A mentor for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Stupidity has to be learned and cultivated. 😮😮😅😅

@eamontdmas

8 ай бұрын

When you don't actually have a counter-argument.

Let me translate Chomsky's idea in one word: "SURRENDER ! !" Seriously, he is the Linguistics master you talking about? he is the "anti-imperialism" you all talking about? What a hypocrisy lie!

@codyvandal2860

7 ай бұрын

It's easy to tell other people to fight your enemies to the last bullet when you're not the one suffering. Why don't you go to Ukraine and fight if you feel so strongly about it?

@richardlee11

7 ай бұрын

@@codyvandal2860 it is easy to tell others to leave the home when a robber comes in and just let the criminals keep it. SMH

@codyvandal2860

7 ай бұрын

@@richardlee11 So are you going to go fight then? That's the difference isn't it? I'm not telling others to do anything. I'm voting for my country to mind it's own business.

@piotrang8634

7 ай бұрын

Chomsky?? The world's leading leftist... he barely speaks but he still sips his venom of the leftist pro russian propaganda. Sick.

@SergyMilitaryRankings

7 ай бұрын

​@@richardlee11the correct analogy would be having the "robbers" family staying with you and mistreating them, the robber saying you need to stop and let them live in peace in their shed they are building out back until a permanent solution, it's like ignoring and breaking the shed and attacking the family member then playing victim when the person breaks in to protect their family member.

The Ukrainians want to be free and the good guys need to support their struggle at any cost.

Being that old cannot feel good.

The way out is for Putin and Russia to leave Ukraine. Chomsky, being a linguist, is really displaying shoddy logic here. Setting up a false dilemma between destruction or negotiations. Russia can just leave, stay on the right side of the border, and everything is ok. Then negotiations regarding war reparations and russian war criminals could follow.

@donovan4222

Жыл бұрын

That’s a nice fantasy but Chomsky actually lives in the real world, Russia isn’t going to just leave any more than Ukraine is going to just give up. The US could of just not done anything during the Cuban missile crisis when the USSR put missiles in Cuba to protect Cuba from a U.S. invasion. That’s not a realistic thing to expect.

@kevinfogle7929

Жыл бұрын

​@@donovan4222 how is Ukraine a threat to Russia? Were they planning on storming Moscow before this war started?

@donovan4222

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinfogle7929 I didn’t say they were a threat?

@mickwilliamnation-3.049

Жыл бұрын

Russia is'n walki'n by imotions;USA is

@user-mm3nr1xh5r

Жыл бұрын

мы не уйдем со своих земель,русофоб американский

Negotiationing with Putin is like negotiating with satan

@EnduroUK.

8 ай бұрын

How the fuck do you know 😂

@izil1fe

8 ай бұрын

Can't be.. the Satan has his HQ in Washington. 🙃

@sterobinson561

8 ай бұрын

Stop believing stupid propaganda Putin would love to negotiate but USA keep pushing Ukraine not to negotiate

@tomasreznicek

8 ай бұрын

Nonexistent?

@jawstrock2215

8 ай бұрын

@@whoshatmypants2024 I didn't know the US invaded Cuba at the time, with claim to de-nazify the area, while actually claiming territory for it's own on the way, instead of going the diplomatic route. Great analogy.

This is really shallow and simple, but the fact that this man's voice is so deep and he is so old makes is seemingly wise when it is not.

@robjworkshop5692

4 ай бұрын

And he just happen to be Noam Chomsky...

@MrBeeastFan

4 ай бұрын

@@robjworkshop5692 oh, now that just makes it wise again.

Wars are insanely stupid and mostly a masculine construct…when we humans realize that we are literally all a part of each other and understand the power of oneness and unconditional love will know true power and peace

And this, dear people, even though well intended, is one of the reasons you don't mess with the cafeteria menu at SHADY ACRES!!!!

@euroe12

8 ай бұрын

Lol

@piotrang8634

7 ай бұрын

10 out of 10 for that comment! 🤣🤣🤣 Chomsky?? The world's leading leftist... he barely speaks but he still sips his venom of the leftist pro russian propaganda. Sick.

Vietnam didn’t destroy the United States but the United States definitely lost the war. Or if you like the United States didn’t destroy Great Britain but Great Britain definitely lost the war.

@jawstrock2215

8 ай бұрын

That is such a better analogy. The independence war with Britain. People keep saying Vietnam, I don't feel it's the same at all. Yeah, the US should have bowed down to Britain when they came, because they were the superpower of the time. Screw state independence right? US is afterall a British Colony, they own it. Why even fight it? so many people died...

@STHFGDBY

6 ай бұрын

Exactly, and why was that ? It was because the people said to America, NO.

@douglashogg4848

6 ай бұрын

@@STHFGDBY colonial wars are very hard to fight. You’re fighting against the idea of independence, so the fight can go on indefinitely, the French followed by the Americans in Vietnam. In addition is the fact, that you will eventually leave.

@adamscott3304

4 ай бұрын

@@jawstrock2215 the difference with independence war was that the british had wooden ships with sails, so it took months to move supplies around and they had to deal with multiply other European powers too, while defending an empire that stretched around the entire world, america only exists because it was not worth the time of the British empire to reclaim it.

He’s in Full Merchant mode

This guy is dreaming.

@lukealadeen7836

4 ай бұрын

Old fool

@Bynggo

4 ай бұрын

And unfortunately you are ill informed. Stop watching faux news.

@princearthur5532

4 ай бұрын

If this guy is dreaming then you my friend have lost your brain 🧠 cells.

@hothatch1520

4 ай бұрын

Noam Chomsky is one of the brightest minds of our era - and he’s right.

@megaape

4 ай бұрын

Nah you’re just indoctrinated by western media

Easily have asked the Russians how that's working out so far.

I’ve listened to and respected Chomsky for several decades, but this is the first time I think he’s flat out wrong.

@paulwilliams2663

Жыл бұрын

Same, Russia failed woefully in Chechnya and Afghanistan

@donovan4222

Жыл бұрын

No, you just fell for the same propaganda that Chomsky constantly warns about. Chomsky is saying the same things he’s said for decades, you just don’t recognize propaganda when it’s actually happening.

@brettbaker3271

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree thank u. Putin is our generations Hitler. U can't negotiate with evil.

@stoa7302

Жыл бұрын

How is he wrong? He is saying negotiations can stop the war, negotiations to address NATO expansion into Ukraine which is the reason for the war. America simply wants to use Ukraine as a proxy in its war against Russia which is why it wants to expand NATO into Ukraine to destabilize Russia. Western leaders and commentators could care less about Ukraine's fate which is why they arm them to commit suicide in war they can't win against a stronger enemy. Chomsky reasons from facts and he is right negotiations are the only to peace and salvation for Ukraine.

@Domesticated_Ape

Жыл бұрын

@@stoa7302 There are almost too many problems, it’s basically all wrong! Where to start… Firstly, there is no appetite for negotiation on either side. The Ukrainians think they can win back more territory and the Russians think their illegal invasion might eventually succeed. Negotiating is only useful once both sides think it will benefit them. Second, even if both sides wanted to negotiate, what makes you think Putin would suddenly become a man of his word and stick to any agreement? Third, a negotiation would almost certainly mean gifting some territory either directly to Russia or to a Russian puppet. I don’t think that rewarding invasions are a great way of discouraging them, do you? Fourth, a ceasefire gives time to Putin to re-arm and re-train his military, denying Ukraine any chance to counter attack and risking future stronger Russian offensives. Fifth, what would other tyrannical governments around the world think if we allowed this illegal land grab to result in any form of a win? You may well get some form of “peace” today in return for global instability tomorrow. Sixth, this idea of “NATO expansion” is just nonsense propaganda. NATO is a club that countries request to join. It’s not like NATO are sending in their military and conquering neighbouring countries by force (Russia on the other hand are actively doing exactly that). What is NATO supposed to do exactly, deny countries the right to freely join a defensive alliance, in case it might annoy the person who wants to invade them? The reason that countries neighbouring Russia want to join the NATO is because of the very real risk of Russian invasion!

"There is no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there is only one guaranteed way you can have peace-and you can have it in the next second-surrender." - Reagan

This war must stop asap.

Pretzel logic Noam He's a linguist and political activist by hobby Quite nutty

@salinagrrrl69

8 ай бұрын

& so too his fans.

@markkindermannart4028

8 ай бұрын

a so called linguist that never had an original thought that made any sense

This also assumes that Russia would stop after taking Ukraine. So how many countries do we have to let Russia invade before they stop? Sometimes you have to support what is right.

@dzeklakovic7568

5 ай бұрын

So who decides what is right? Right for who, western interests? just google USA and NATO war involvements and come here and tell me that every single country they destroyed they were right to do so. You can twist and turn the truth all you want, the one who is most powerful is always right, because who is going to oppose them? Now the landscape is shifting, you pissed off more than half of the world and your power is fading. You'll remember this comment if you stay alive long enough to see the rockets flying over your own head, the same freedom and democracy you gave to other countries.

@maynard3legs

4 ай бұрын

Some countries are different then others.

America should mind its own business. 🇷🇺

This is not an old man who's talking while the young age dying. He sincerely wants the end of war.

99,99% of those who want the war to continue dont fight in this war

@haruruben

11 ай бұрын

100% of the people fighting Putin and his thugs don’t want to be under the boot of Moscow, have their rights taken away, children kidnapped, murdered for dissenting option and all the other horrible things Russia brings to its conquered

@Volodymyr_SVD

11 ай бұрын

I fight this war. Received injury and now in hospital. After that I will return to war. Lots of warriors are there by their own will.

@oliveryt7168

10 ай бұрын

@@Volodymyr_SVD One day you'll end up in a plastic bag, if you continue. Your death will be meaningless. Just stop and try to bribe your way out to a country in the EU. Here (I'm from Germany) you'll get free housing, meals and some pocket money.. and even a chance to start a new life... Maybe Germany isnt as nice as Ukraine, but at least you can use this as a starting point and maybe even move somewhere else. This is how this war will end: Maybe 2 or max. 3 years of more fighting, until Ukraine runs out of ammo, tanks, and support... the US will drop them like a hot potato (remember Afghanistan?) and Zelenskyi is going to agree to negotiations. Ukraine will lose some of its land and wont have any chance to join NATO or EU. Hope, that helps. Get out asap. Good luck.

@MrCobalt

8 ай бұрын

​@@Volodymyr_SVDHero! Don't mind these Kremlin paid fools who sell their souls and dignity to post lies on KZread comments. No amount of their lies will save Russia from the consequences of its actions. Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦💪

@move2003ny

7 ай бұрын

I want this war to stop… by Russia leaving Ukraine for good.

You can’t negotiate with a guy like Putin though!

@MalevolentSpirit234

7 ай бұрын

The only way to negotiate with Putin is to throw him the fuck out of wherever he is sitting.

@professorboltzmann5709

7 ай бұрын

Churchill taught us that. God bless him!

@Poum1935Alavictoria

Ай бұрын

2 iq moment

If he had any credibility it’s gone I don’t trust anyone who writes their own narrative.

Noam Chomsky is a sad old man who's well past his sell by date. He's a philosopher and weirdly, a linguist, that's all. He's not an "expert" on NATO. He's not an "expert" on Ukraine. Best ignored, unless you just want to confirm your own appeaser bias to Russian aggression.

@jamesmccloud7535

Жыл бұрын

And we should listen to you instead? Are you an "expert" on these topics as well so should you have the right to tell other people what they think is wrong and yours is right? He can give his own viewpoint of it as you can give yours.

@raybrettman9618

Жыл бұрын

amen

@raybrettman9618

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmccloud7535 He can indeed. If you want an expert on the many thousand year story of that area your man is Timothy D Snyder not the Noamster.

@dwl3006

Жыл бұрын

@@raybrettman9618 I could think of 10 academics who know the history of that area better than Snyder.

@Ayopipero

Жыл бұрын

Proceeds to Consume LGBTQ propaganda in massive amounts

If it was so easy, Russia would have done it by now.

@Hannahlers

Жыл бұрын

They easily could with how many nukes they have

@DrewGlenzer

Жыл бұрын

@@Hannahlers and there will obviously be no repercussions for that.

@Hannahlers

Жыл бұрын

@@DrewGlenzer yup and that’ll start WW3 and America will end up being sucked into war

@Hannahlers

Жыл бұрын

@@DrewGlenzer more so than we already are with our idiot president

@coolguydustywhearhouse9659

Жыл бұрын

It's because America is a thing Russia knows if they get too aggressive america and Europe will step in

Chomsky is totally on point.

For all grandpas and grandmas. Please take your prescriptions regularly 🙏🏼

They’ve negotiated before and look Russia came back. The cycle will continue until Russia holds all Ukrainian soil.

@justliberty4072

Жыл бұрын

Germany and Japan seem to have lost their imperialistic ambitions and superiority complex, so maybe Russians can too.

@ghsvideosreviews5499

Жыл бұрын

​@@justliberty4072 both of them was not practically destroyed , to that happens during the last great war ? .

@donovan4222

Жыл бұрын

@@justliberty4072 who’s going to stop US imperialism? How should Russia or China stop US imperial ambitions?

@annasawicka4096

Жыл бұрын

Russia didn't actually leave, so how could she come back?

@user-mm3nr1xh5r

Жыл бұрын

никакой укринской земли не существует, это русская земля ,где живут русские

"Women should subject themselves to their rapist exholes, otherwise whey may be killed" - Chromsky (person, who once was admiring resistance of Palestinians)

@kevinrice957

9 ай бұрын

By thumbs-up on this comment, I'm only agreeing the analogy is correct, that murderous/genocidal violence is not solved by submission.

The spirit of Neville Chamberlain lives on.

This is absolutely true!!!

He looks like an immortal Karl Marx. Jesus. No wonder he’s wrong.

@johneboy910

8 ай бұрын

Same clan.

@emeralddragongaming2930

8 ай бұрын

well Marx wasn't wrong, by the way you don't follow Jesus either

@johneboy910

8 ай бұрын

@@emeralddragongaming2930Tell that to the 10s of millions that have died in the 20th century alone and to the hundreds of millions that suffered/are suffering in the name of his ideas.

@emeralddragongaming2930

8 ай бұрын

@@johneboy910 thats why we live better today, did you read anything from Marx ? Also millions and millions died because of feudalistic and capitalistic ideas, do you condemn those systems too ?

@johneboy910

8 ай бұрын

@@emeralddragongaming2930 You poor thing. The delusion is far beyond repair.

Russia militarily is looking pretty pathetic. I’d put my money on Ukraine.

@patricknorton5788

5 ай бұрын

I hope so. In the beginning it was completely up to them not to collapse in a week or so, but now it definitely depends upon continuing Western aid on a large scale. I have written my representatives, and should do again. Never been in support of my own country's intervention in a war before, but we must support Ukraine, if we want to see the success and survival of democracy and open society in the world.

@davidboskovic6581

5 ай бұрын

did you change your mind now?

@barneyleseven2854

5 ай бұрын

@@patricknorton5788 At this point in the war the depleted and incompetent Russian military has almost no chance of defeating Ukraine. The Russian military can’t even fully occupy the Donbas region despite already controlling most of the territory at the start of the war. Ukraine is now more militarized then ever before and NATO has now expanded to the borders of the Russian federation.

@eimisavageofficial9196

4 ай бұрын

Lol😂 That how west see that but russia is more stronger than west in weapon now It continously do it for decades and decades OK bro😂

@barneyleseven2854

4 ай бұрын

@@eimisavageofficial9196 hahaha, ya Russia is so strong. Never mind the fact that the entire Russian military has been utterly humiliated in Ukraine. Russia can’t even completely take the Donbas region. despite already controlling most of the territory at the start of the war. The Russian military is a total joke.

The terrible thing is Ukraine used to be a nuclear power, they gave up nukes in exchange for territorial guarantees. It should be noted, a lot of the USSR nukes were made in Ukraine by Ukraine. It’s also worth note that the reactors producing the fissionable material have been un the possession of Ukraine for 30 years. It’s further worth noting that it’s become relatively cheap and easy to make nukes. Taking all that, how hard would it be to build a small nuke, shield it from radiation detection, put it in a truck and drive it to Moscow and put another one in a ship and sail it to St Petersburg? Or, for that matter, to London or New York?

@andremacko5408

4 ай бұрын

The only country not afraid of the Russian Federation is Ukraine. Trying to find blame in Ukraine is a futile argument. Had Ukraine not given up her nukes and had been accepted into NATO and the EU in 2014 none of this Russian debauchery would have been an issue or would have occured. The obvious answer is to accept Ukraine into NATO and the EU immediately. Don't gine me any talks of waiting for Ukraine to meet certain standards when jokes like Hungary and Slovakia are members.

@anthonyburke5656

4 ай бұрын

@@andremacko5408 hell no, Ukraine is still an Eastern country, it has endemic corruption, very loose democracy, few checks and balances, it’s one bad ruler away from a totalitarian state, it needs more runs on the board to be accepted as a Western Democracy. Btw, a LOT of the former Iron Curtain countries should NOT have been accepted either.

@andreondercin5280

25 күн бұрын

​@@andremacko5408zelinsky it's you you drunk again

Noam Chomsky

And just like that, Noam Chomsky became a Republican

@justliberty4072

8 ай бұрын

Uh, no. His comments overlap with the statements of a few Republican's, but those don't even reflect the thoughts of the majority in the party.

94 year old linguistics wiz shouldn't be giving political/military advice...time for your nap noam

@fabiengerard8142

Жыл бұрын

And you’d better wake up instead.

Yeah Chomsky, that "negotiation strategy" worked out real well with Hitler at Munich in 1938. What a nut.

There is no negotiation subject like it was no negotiation subject during WW2

Once had respect for Chomsky not anymore, retire old man you have lost the plot.

@krywoz707

10 ай бұрын

@@DragonGhost88 "Truth" Not even close to truth, its old man rambling, pretending to be smarter that actually is

Who says ukraine wants to destroy rusia? Are you CRAZY?

@TheDisinformationProjectNz

Жыл бұрын

Anyone pro Ukraine

@andrewwaggoner1831

4 ай бұрын

Ukraine is not trying to destroy Russia,thry arectrying tobsurvuve a russuan invasion.a​@@TheDisinformationProjectNz

May we please see this unredacted, unedited...

naom is so intelligent, but just from my own life experiences there ARE people whom you CANNOT negotiate with.

I don't like the Noamster anymore. Yes profound intelligence. You don't negotiate with the likes of Putin. Period. I understand that part of the history lesson. Timothy D Snyder remains the expert on all things Russia, Ukraine, and pretty much any other former Soviet satellite.

@dwl3006

Жыл бұрын

Timothy Snyder is is not the expert on all things Russia even in the slightest. I could name 10 Academics who know Russia better than Snyder. Also, not sure how seriously you can take Snyder who thinks Biden is the best U.S. president since Roosevelt.

@McHallel

10 ай бұрын

Russia wants to be friends with the west the west want war with russia but russia is the evil one

@ninelaivz4334

9 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? Russia warned the west and Ukraine for decades over this and still sat down and negotiated, reaching an agreement that Ukraine ignored and instead their Nazi wing just continued to kill Russian Ukrainians. When the Soviets tried the same antics on the US in Cuba Kennedy threatened a nuclear holocaust on the whole world if they didn't remove their nukes from Cuba.

I choose to disagree as all this logic is based on false presumptions. Most modern wars do not end by negotiations or destruction. In fact only one in six does. Most wars end in a prolonged destabilization of the region. Secondly, I disagree, because destruction is ill defined. A government can be overthrown or replaced or a territory conquered. The liberties of people and their right to exist as a people can be destroyed. Although I agree Russian territory will not be conquered, the Russian government could destabilize and its capacity to rule Russia could be severely diminished. Even tot the point it loses grip on ints satellite states and provinces. Russia could fall apart. This would not be caused by Ukraine, but by Russia overstretching itself. We should not forget Russia’s (small-mid sized) economy, open geography and deteriorating demographics make it very vulnerable. I think it is this lack of internal power that forces Putin to seek its strength abroad. Thirdly I agree the best case would be if Ukraine and Russia reach a settlement. But this should be a settlement that gives both Ukraine and Russia guarantees. Russia should acknowledge Ukraine right to exist as an independent country and freely choose it course, without Russian intervention. The West should make concrete agreements with Russia and Belarus safeguarding the mutual security concerns and about (renewed) cooperation.

@donovan4222

Жыл бұрын

so in conclusion, you agree with Chomsky and just added a bunch of random talking about about “Russia bad”

@X9xredgkoa

Жыл бұрын

What a BS lmao lol you propaganda victim

@Luzt.

Жыл бұрын

@@donovan4222 Amen.

I don’t know who this man is but he’s saying the truth!!

His last battle was July 1-3 1863 Gettysburg. ( Gen.Lee )🙄

That is defeatist. By your logic , no effort should ever be made to stand up for oneself. The conflict is too costly? You imply absolutes, yet then decry absolutes? Where is your head at? You seem confused as to the issues at hand. Do you fear the force of mass over logic?

@TheSpiritOfTheTimes

Жыл бұрын

Why are you not fighting? Or are you happy to see Ukrainians get killed while feeling good and mighty because you think you're somehow helping their fight by... posting KZread comments?

What is he even talking about? He says there are two options: Russia annihilates Ukraine (no, they can’t) or negotiations. But then describes a third one… Somebody needs to take the good professor’s computer away and let him die in peace.

Anarchists love this guy if that tells you anything.

He speaks as though Ukraine is either ours or Russia's. Ukraine belongs to Ukrainians. Budapest Memorandum; both The US and Russian Federation guaranteed Ukrainian security and sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine giving up its Nuclear Weapons and some Soviet era munitions. Mr. Chomsky is out of his lane here.

@narednikmajka2403

3 ай бұрын

Western parts of Ukraine will belong to Ukraine. Eastern parts and Crimea, that's Russian.

Chompsky still lives in the past. If the West was serious and provided enough ammo, Ukraine could prevail.

@ninjesus4079

Жыл бұрын

Ukraine can push Russia out of Ukraine but cant destroy Russia. That's what Chomsky said

@mattias5157

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjesus4079 I think Russia is on the path of destroying itself. Not as a country but as an imperium. I can´t see how it´s going to be kept together with no army and it´s leader hiding away in a bunker.

@Xjuijau

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjesus4079 russia literally destroyed itself by killing they youth on battlefield and driving others away from russia. After this they won't have any proper army for ages. No one needs to destroy it.

@donovan4222

Жыл бұрын

Lmfao what do you mean “prevail” take back the territories of people who don’t want to live under the Ukrainian government where they haven’t been able to take for 8 years?

some people think russia is gona lose..thats silly thinking..there isno chance they allow that to occur

@whitescar2

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I mean, the USSR never backed down from Afghanistan, Cuba, Berlin blockade...

Don't listen to old men who were never a gutsy warrior a single day of their life.

There’s a third way these days that he left out. Mankind has improved its destructive ability to the point where it won’t be just one side being destroyed. Amazingly it hasn’t been used against an enemy since the end of the Second World War and it destructive ability has been vastly improved since then with a much greater reach and ease of use. Maybe by some miracle it’ll continue to not be used.

When you say Negotiation is the way but you have no clue pertaining to anything therein. Spooky stuff.

@oliveryt7168

10 ай бұрын

This old man has more "clue" than you'll ever will... His IQ is way above yours. Spooky stuff, isnt it? ^^