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You failed to report the most important problem concerning the Cruise accident. The company was found to have lied to the government and fabricated evidence concerning the accident. It was more the failure of the accident reporting by the company than the car itself that led to the demise of Cruise.

from what i've seen FSD v12 does seem alot better i'm excited to see what happens

And why did you put as the video image a Tesla crashing into a person??

@lockedenclave5021

2 ай бұрын

Probably to trick Tesla haters to hate watch 😂

@jeffkrupke3810

2 ай бұрын

Please replace that thumbnail. As total lie..

@Juuythljgrrdwq

2 ай бұрын

Just report the video.

@iandavies4853

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. The thumbnail got me close to unsubscribe. This channel always was dodgy.

@jeffkrupke3810

2 ай бұрын

@@Juuythljgrrdwq report to who?

Advancing technology has a cost. The first planes crashed loads of times before people learned how to make flying safe. Now flying is safer than driving cars. The first self-driving cars will be similar. There will be mistakes and accidents, but we will learn from them and improve the technology. At one point in the future, a human driving will be riskier than an self-driving car.

@infinitehexington

2 ай бұрын

trial and error

20 years ago, while walking down the sidewalk a woman driving a pickup out of a parking lot knocked me into the first lane of traffic. Fortunately she was breaking so it wasn't that bad. But the surprise that she hit me must have panicked her because the floored it, Hitting me so hard it broke here bug deflector and knocking me 2 1/2 more lanes of traffic and leaving me lying on the road as she sped off not knowing if I was dead or not. I was very lucky there were not that many cars do to a red light a little up the street.

Headline photo is false, Cybertruck does not have FSD.

@danharold3087

2 ай бұрын

Thumbnails and Titles seldom are anymore. Making videos for KZread is highly competitive. Views are more important than accuracy. Without enough views nothing else matters. Unless your doing it for fun.

There will never be complete security! We don’t even have security at home!!

@pplusbthrust

2 ай бұрын

Life is a challenge. Survival is tenuous and depends on your exposure to risk. Gravity waits patiently for you to loose your balance. It's not the fall but the abrupt stop that does the damage. Ask me how I know.

If anything san Francisco has a government problem

@grizzly6604

2 ай бұрын

Very true. California, as a whole, has a government problem.

From the California DMV website… FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 8, 2023 Sacramento - The California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) today issued an autonomous vehicle deployment permit to Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC, allowing the company to offer its DRIVE PILOT automated driving system on designated California highways under certain conditions without the active control of a human driver. Mercedes-Benz is the fourth company to receive an autonomous vehicle deployment permit in California and the first authorized to sell or lease vehicles with an automated driving system to the public.

Great Videos! Keep up the good work!

You are missing Waymo, the other company that you mentioned along with Cruise. And that is the most old, important and well known self driving company.

You are missing something here. The computer did what it was programmed to do. It tried to stop, but it found the quickest spot to pull over when an accident was registered. The car was not programmed to detect humans under the vehicle. My Nissan Kick actually stopped by itself when my American Eskimo dog ran behind the car as I was backing up. My Ariya stops on a dime. The systems are designed to include humans. Like this example from Nissan Global "If the system determines that there is a risk of colliding with a vehicle or pedestrian in front of the vehicle, it will alert the driver through visual and audio alerts and apply light, automatic braking. This is to prompt the driver to take action to avoid a collision. If the driver does not take action to decelerate and the risk of a collision increases, the system will apply automatic emergency braking immediately before the collision. This will help to avoid or reduce the damage caused by the collision." You can put massive ceramic brakes on a car, and it can stop quickly, but you have to calculate the passenger's "discomfort" and the cars behind you ability to stop. I went to ATL with my Ariya and set the distance to max for the car in front of me. Cars behind me almost could not stop. If every car was on the same network and could talk to each other the world would be safer.

How about this, if an autonomous vehicle does something criminal, the owner or a representative it's safety goes to jail?

this new end-to-end neural net seems wayyyyy smoother. I have a good feeling about 2024 FSD

It's the exact same situation with airplanes. First they were dangerous, then they were safer, then they were regulated. Now every major accident is being investigated to death and made sure to not happen again. AIs will be the same. I suspect LLMs will actually be the solution for self driving, as they will connect disparate concepts with the driving experience and give it depth.

Honestly, in that first-mentioned situation, I might do what the Bolt did. It is not good, but it is a tough event to handle well.

So a human driver hit a pedestrian and the self driving car acted as programmed in an emergency to get out of the road. Maybe a bit of software update is needed for situations like these. Now the head line is self driving car hits pedestrian. Why not ban all human drivers and replace them with self driving cars, it will nearly eliminate accidents. Even the accidents where Teslas on AP hit emergency vehicles is situations where emergency vehicles stopped to assist because some human driver messed up first.

BAN SELF DRIVING ESCALATORS!!!!! 410,656 people are seriously injured by escalators each year ... 1100 people EVERY DAY!!!!! ... and 2 deaths PER DAY

Lane Leve MAPS vs basic or high def maps -- Lane level is like knowing your town or driving route vs being in a strange town or city.

Haven't you heard of the summon feature? Driverless.

A question in those accidents involving the self-driving cars,.. who's at fault for causing the accidents? Who did the person who got run over by the self-driving car get to sue for medical treatment expenses in the hundreds of thousands of $? The city of SanFran isn't going to be picking up the tab for when incidents like that happen. Thankfully the person who got run over survived, instead of the family attempting to sue someone/some entity for the death of their family member..

Cruise and Waymo were constantly corrected by humans. They were NOT level 4.

@bigdougscommentary5719

2 ай бұрын

Stop with the stupid ass contention that musk was mistaken a out the time line. Tesla development couldn't predict what obstacles they would encounter ea h time they headed down a chosen path. Tesla threw out several development paths and started from scratch when they reached a dead end. Musk even acknowledged that it has been a tougher problem than he thought. However, I just drove the new V12 version of FSD BETA today, controlled by AI, and it is a huge advancement over V11.

It's still early days yet

If Self-Driving was working, it would be implemnented first on Trains (fixed rails), then ships (in the water), planes (mostly auto-pilot since the 70s), then buses (run on the same route all the time and slowly). Lastly it would be on cars in hectic streets.

Thank you for being one of the few to confirm what I've seen consistently amongst people showing Tesla FSD driving They always have an intervention and don't mention it and just act like it was no problem and say yeah the car got me here or they cut the video short enough to be between interventions and what I'm noticing more now is a lot of them just show the video with the upper right quadrant of the steering wheel so like 12:00 to 3:00 position and then the whole windshield and right door panel but who needs to see all that I can see out the windshield show me the whole entire steering wheel from top to bottom so I can see if you had to press the pedals or grab the wheel they're hiding and they're turning the wheel from the 9:00 to 6:00 position correcting the car but not telling you they did it and then acting like the car did the whole thing because the fanboys want stock to go up but in reality car did not complete the whole maneuver and they say it was 100% success for interventions that they lie about with don't let you know happened

That first crash is NOT a Tesla with Autopilot or FSD Beta activated. Any Tesla owner knows this.

I think that self-driving cars require software of such sophistication that if and when we ever figure it out it may even prove to be immoral to implement it in a self-driving car. The car might not want to be your taxi.

@danharold3087

2 ай бұрын

Tesla (and others) have gone beyond code as we know it in V12. While it relies on code and algorithms they do not contain the knowledge.. That same Intelligent system can imagine what will happen in the future and get the physics right. I think the sophistication is close if not there. Depending on who you ask fortunately or unfortunately it is not self aware.

@NeilEvans-xq8ik

2 ай бұрын

@@danharold3087 But it doesn't understand that it's driving over an injured person, nor that it is morally wrong to do so. I think that if it is ever going to be able to understand this, it might have to be a person; an artificial one, with a car for a body, but a person nonetheless. And if that's true, it might be immoral to insist it spends its life being a taxi for biological people. It may choose otherwise.

Apparently the robotaxis are not following the Asimovs 3 laws of robotics especially after dragging a human 20ft on an asphalt roadway. I would expect that these 3 laws should have already be required to be included as a subroutine or algorithm of any and all professed autonomous vehicles as well as humanoid robots. By its very generic category "Robotaxi", these laws should have been included and shoild be demanded to be included in the operation of any autonomous vehicle so classified.

You have too much hope in human drivers, some are just that bad 😉 Thanks for your hard work. See you in the next one

It is possible that the cruise car did what it was supposed to do. Then a human operator back at cruise headquarters took over. Saw nothing in the way and caused the car to continue ahead and pull over as is policy. Had he reviewed the video he would have caught this. I do not say that I know this. It is a possibility.

So. Tesla driving without autopilot = keep your hands on the wheel and your foot on the pedal ready to brake. Tesla driving WITH autopilot = keep your hands on the wheel and your foot on the pedal ready to brake. What?

Getting out ahead of an innovative movement can be very rewarding but if your too far ahead you could falter.

Cruise and Waymo were never advanced enough for the widespread application to san Francisco streets. Neither is Tesla's FSD BETA, hence, a human driver is in control AND RESPONSIBLE.

Musk's decision to remove Lidar and radar will prove an issue. He can create the VERY BEST human driver, but LIDAR and radar would let that driver see what the camera cannot, thus making a better-than-humanly-possible driver.

How many channels do you have? I recognize 2-3 channels.

These accidents r few and far in between compared to human operated vehicles . It's a new tech as well

Having to keep your hands on the wheel and your foot on the pedal makes Tesla’s sales pitch for self driving completely pointless. The whole sales pitch has been a gigantic bait and switch going on for years. Relying on AI to completely and accurately reproduce the visual capabilities and understanding of the world that a human has is ridiculous. If someone in another car tries to get your attention, say to roll the window down because they notice something wrong with your car, is the AI going to be able to handle something like that? That’s a trivial situation for a human driver. What about road ragers? Can it tell the difference between people who need help, and car jackers or road ragers? There are many such situations like these. Driver assist is not a bad idea, but I think true self driving is not a good idea, unless they are given their own dedicated lanes. But then you might as well just use public transit. That’s what most people should be using in a city anyway.

Wow I am surprised that there are self-driving up in San Francisco. There are none that I can see in Southern California

@bluecafe509

2 ай бұрын

Waymo is in Southern California.

@Victic005

2 ай бұрын

@@bluecafe509 really!

LOL @ Opera being 'new'........it's from 1995, may be older than you.

Can we get all the less 99.99999% human drivers off the road?

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Time to change channel..

Self-driving AI is going to be better than humans in 99.9999% of cases, but absolutely abysmal for that last 0.0001% even compared to the worst human driver. Those exceptions that the AI never got any training for. The AI is not a logical, thinking mind, it's just trained to recognize the cases it's been trained for.

The problem with all of these companies in their mindset of we got to hurry up and be tesla not we have to make a good product not we have to serve our customers it. We have to beat Elon and Tesla. That’s a problem recipe for disaster.

I don't think your depiction of the accident is correct. If the person got fully under the car as you so dramatically and dishonestly? depict I don't think they would have survived. Is there any actual information about what precisely happened?

ehh I think cars will hopefully someday become a uncommon form of transportation. fast easy and reliable public transportation is objectively safer and more efficient

We have to get through the rough patch. It is like the Uncanny Valley for animation and robotics. For a while, it is going to be rather bad.

Autonomous vehicles are unlikely to happen until the provider can assume complete liability. Autonomous is safer than human? Put your money where your mouth is. For a Tesla, they could offer lower insurance premiums for owners who use FSD, or assume all legal liabilities when owners are driving with FSD on and cause accidents or infractions.

@billweberx

2 ай бұрын

They probably will be made liable by the courts once FSD is released to the public. Right now, it's fully under the control of the driver.

Well you got me to unsubscribe after a couple of mostly years. Why is there a cyber truck hitting a man? Don't answer! I know to drive click's. I have had it with the never ending flow of shit from main steam media so thanks for sharing your true colors. Super disappointed that you decided to join the crowd.

@ramshambo2001

2 ай бұрын

Same!

@billweberx

2 ай бұрын

So sensitive...

@brettkemmerer1310

2 ай бұрын

Never been called sensitive before, thanks for noticing.

Really interesting would be a video of how bad the tesla autopilot even after years is and other companies have overtaken tesla development

@JJSmith1100

2 ай бұрын

You should have put the said , "of how "bad "the tesla autopilot", to emphasize that no one is even close to Tesla.

@thewatcher5822

2 ай бұрын

You obviously have not been keeping up with what Tesla have been up to. To me with V12 of FSD Tesla have now solved self driving. It is not ready but it is just a matter of feeding it the data required to finish what they have started. Tesla are set to dominate in this space.

@joshuarahimi221

2 ай бұрын

@@thewatcher5822 i absolutely have. I watched several videos with the latest version and most functions like tempo limit regulation (and i mean very clear tempo limits) and other functions didn’t work most of the time. Bad slow downs and acceleration and so on. Apart from this Tesla is far from ahead in the tests carried out by independent bodies. Several companies are ahead of tesla at this time

@thewatcher5822

2 ай бұрын

@@joshuarahimi221 I find your opinion hard to take seriously. If you have any idea about self driving you would recognise the huge leap Tesla have taken with V12. as for independent studies, I only know of one, that nobody should take seriously. Like I said Tesla have solved self driving. It is not ready, but once the data is fed into the system and reaches the performance necessary, Tesla will dominate.

@joshuarahimi221

2 ай бұрын

@@thewatcher5822 are you just saying that cause you’re just a fan of tesla? It works very shitty videos have shown it. Just watch the latest videos and you have your proof. You just live in an illusion if you think tesla is ahead of all competitors…

Be more numbers based. Robotaxis and automated driving cars are way safer than human drivers, the stats back this up. If everyone drove Level 2, or greater, automated driving cars today, less people would be dead and injured. The point of "Can we save lives with automated driving?" has already passed (Even with how terrible the software is currently). It is too easy to make videos like this as people will always look for one accident they dont like and make their decision based on it. You buried the headline. Still like your (other) videos 🙂

@DaveIsTheBestMan

2 ай бұрын

Just want to add, Im not saying we should all drive L2 and above autonomous driving cars today - let the software mature a bit (or a lot)

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Not sure what the goal of this channel is anymore. I usually end the video with the same feeling as when it started, confused. I feel like I’m watching a New York Times video that is manipulating facts to push a narrative. I get the feeling it’s a negative narrative most times but other times it’s positive. These videos just seem unnecessary.

This is another hit piece attempting to gain users through sensationalism, not useful factual info. Autonomy is here and grow tremendously through this decade at some point obviating the need for personal automotive ownership. Good bye!!

all these self firing guns need to be banned too

@Beakerzor

2 ай бұрын

as well as all these self broadcasting smartphones making butt-dials all the time... BAN THEM ALL!!!!

Almost want to unsub for this thumbnail

@billweberx

2 ай бұрын

go ahead. I dare you.

We see Elon and his teams do miraculous achievements with Spacex, Tesla, and his other endeavors. Solving self driving will be solved and available before 2030

My first thumbs down for this channel, though I've been tempted in the past. I still think most of the content is well presented. This one was really bad.

@TheTeslaSpace

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate the feedback Bill

You importantly left out that level 3 and 4 require geofencing. Level 5 does not. Tesla plans to go straight from level 2 to level 5. There are no other self driving programs that are even planning on level 5 at this point. It may take a while.. Also, you must not have seen many version 12 beta videos as I've seen several that had zero interventions, even doing difficult maneuvers that version 11 failed to do.

Cool first like and comment 😂

I disagree. Tesla software isn’t designed to require a human driver, however because it has not yet been perfected, a human driver is necessary. Already on many drives I don’t have to take control

@goddmor1015

2 ай бұрын

Tesla software is designed to require a human driver. Tesla himself said that. There needs to be someone in the driver sit ready to take over, even if a lot of the time you don't need to.

@iandavies4853

2 ай бұрын

@@goddmor1015Nikola Tesla has been dead a while, a long while.

@billweberx

2 ай бұрын

@@goddmor1015"Tesla himself" has been dead long before there were cars or drivers.

This video is really misleading. Putting Cruise and Waymo in the same category is radicalus. Didn't mention at all Waymo who is killing it. I've been falling this channel for half a year, but this guy is too much Tesla shiller.

@billweberx

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say Waymo is killing it, but I agree with the fact that he didn't cover it at all and they're currently the only robotaxi out there. Also, you really could use a spell checker.

Can we not with the thumbnail? If you want an attention grabbing thumbnail, show a GM Bolt DRAGGING a person under the car.

LET'S FACE IT, TESLA'S NOMENCLATURE WAS A STUPID CHOICE.

Why is thumb nail not changed do i have to unsub to as well.

Only 8k views. CHANGE the thumb nail

Newsome “PUSHED OUT OF TOWN” Tesla/ Elon… And “EMBRACED”!!! GM/ WAYMO!!! What an asshole…

You’re using terms like “Robotaxi” “Self-driving-car” “driverless”- “robotaxis” “Robotaxis” are DIRECTLY associated with Teslas.. Yet when you mention them in your clip, you show an “Uber” Kia with NO DRIVER BEHIND THE WHEEL!!! IN A “GEO-FENCED” downtown area… AND HIS IS “NOT” ROBOTAXI/ DRIVERLESS VEHICLES ASSHOLE”!!!

Subways 🚊 lookin pretty good right about now 😅