You'll start off a fan of his brother and with age gradually come to understand Peter is the truely wise one.

The grumpier he is, the happier he is.

@justgivemethetruth

4 ай бұрын

The more entertained we are! ;-)

@TB-us7el

4 ай бұрын

if he isn't grumpy, it is a bad omen.

I do love Peter Hitchens' pessimism.

'It's being a pessimist which keeps me so cheerful'. 😂

@imverydeadd

4 ай бұрын

it is true

@generaljackripper666

2 ай бұрын

If you always expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.

Superb interview. Peter is like a grumpy old relative who you love for their insight, intellect and opinion.

@willpeony5534

4 ай бұрын

My grumpy old relative is just old and grumpy.

I've watched plenty of Hitchens interviews over the years, this ranks among the best.

Peter helped me return to the Catholic Church. I greatly admire his writing and his other work over the years.

@richards9407

4 ай бұрын

What, did he give you directions?

@MontyCantsin5

4 ай бұрын

@TheMacedonianGeneral: That’s hardly something to be proud of.

@georgegoodyear9631

4 ай бұрын

Ignore the snide comments; I also have returned to Catholicism, due, in no small part, to the insights of Peter Hitchens.

@jimjiminy5836

4 ай бұрын

Really? Sheesh, you must be a simpleton. Not for the Catholic Church aspect, I have full respect for people of faith, but for taking Hitchens so seriously.

@jimjiminy5836

4 ай бұрын

@@georgegoodyear9631he’s a fool. Though your spirituality is far from foolish.

Television: I am Godless, materialistic and shallow Social Media: Hold my beer

As an atheist and a firm devotee of Christopher, I still think Peter is a wonder in his own right. I’m still trying to figure him out

@richards9407

4 ай бұрын

I like both of them. Peter for most of his politics and Christopher for his views on religion.

@davidfiler7439

4 ай бұрын

Not difficult, he's simply a little liar for the baby jesus struggling under the shadow of a brother with far greater intellect.

@draoi99

4 ай бұрын

High IQ comment bro 👍

@Deathbytroll

4 ай бұрын

Christopher just hit the internet at the right time to sop up gullible people into his cult of personality. It’s telling most of the heroes from the new atheist movement were exposed as idiots. Christopher just had the advantage of being dead to preserve his image.

@davidfiler7439

4 ай бұрын

Ping! And another atheist is born.@@Deathbytroll

Hitchens says Queen Elizabeth I said, "I will not make windows into mens' souls." What a relief to hear that thought in these times of constant therapy, psychology and cheap labelling, in these times of political suspicion and mind-reading as in, "Dogwhistle! If you say X, we know you really mean Y."

He’s right about the church patronising young people. Churches need to maintain their traditions, and go back to singing the beautiful old hymns. Few young people are going to be attracted by the bland modern hymns.

@NoMastersNoMistress

4 ай бұрын

The churches need to go the way of the Dodo. Our species needs to grow up and so do you. I was forced to sing those hymns and they were awful when compared to actual classical music and jazz.

@supersonicsenses

4 ай бұрын

Funny how the CofE churches in my area which sing lovely hymns are empty, and the Baptist one which has a band and sings conventional songs is packed to the rafters 🤔

@greetingsbox4229

4 ай бұрын

@@ERobbins1234 You cannot expect someone playing just a guitar to make a difference unless it hangs by a rainbow strap.

@KendalSmithy

4 ай бұрын

@@NoMastersNoMistress I was also forced to sing Methodist hymns and hated them, until I realised that Christianity is true and then they began to be my treasures. What alternative do YOU have to the God of the Bible? Science? Scientists are no less corrupt than politicians, as we've discovered under Covid.

@iainrae6159

4 ай бұрын

Thankfully most young folks leave school sceptical of religious priests and clerics supernatural "truth' claims .

Great discussion by two good men. God Bless both of them.

I wish I had faith. But once you see the logical absurdity of religion, you can’t unsee it. As much as I want to…

I could listen to Peter's grumblings for hours on end. I especially appreciated the wonderful cinematography and drone-shots. It adds a real sense of atmosphere that regular interviews and podcasts fail to capture.

I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this video, thank you guys. As a Christian of over 50 years, the only thing with which I profoundly disagree is Peter’s belief that the Christian and Islamic God are one and the same?! 🤦‍♂️ If that were true then we would have no alternative but to conclude that the Biblical God is not just Trinitarian but also schizophrenic, since the teachings of Islam are diametrically opposed to those of Judeo-Christianity and cannot, under any circumstances, be reconciled?! The Quran, Hadith and the doctrines of Islam have all been ‘tailor-made’ specifically to oppose the foundational doctrines of Judeo-Christianity - that God is Tri-Personal, that He has incarnated as the Messiah in order to live a perfect life and then suffer crucifixion as the atoning sacrifice for the sin of His Creation, for the Messiah, to then be resurrected after three days, to ascend into Heaven to sit at the right hand of His Father until such time as He shall return to bring an end to the kingdoms of men, to judge the living and the dead and to restore all things to how God always intended for them to be. This being the case, how, in spite of conventional religious practise on the island of Malta (and elsewhere), could it possibly be believed that YHWH and Allah are one and the same God unless one also believes that ‘God’ to be seriously schizophrenic?! Simonline🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱

@jonathandnicholson

4 ай бұрын

Christianity, Islam and Judaism believe in and proclaim the LORD (YHWH) as the One True God, a sexless spirit outside of creation. Christians and Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah, but only Christians believe Jesus is The Son of Man/God (and consequently the Trinity). Jews believe neither, that God will come wholly as the Messiah at the End of Days. Many people, I am told, misread Daniel Seven and NT Wright recently made the point that Jesus is The Son of God not just a son of God. All (Christians, Jews, Muslims) believe that God is one/singular, but only Christians believe, as St John the Apostle expressed, 'the Word [God, God the Father] became flesh [God, God the Son - God the Holy Spirit being the Divine Wind or God's Breath (for want of a better term)]'. Perhaps more accurate in an academic sense to say 'the same God (LORD), but different theologies'.

@thadtuiol1717

4 ай бұрын

The term "Judeo-Christian" is oxymoronic. It was also concocted by the usual suspects to undermine Christianity. If you are using it unironically, you're not really a Christian.

@jonathandnicholson

4 ай бұрын

@@nem2966 I did not realise.

@dalenelson8254

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, Simonline. People comfortably refer to "the Abrahamic religions." But consider carefully the last verses in Chapter 8 of the Gospel According to St. John: 54 Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. 55 Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.” 57 “You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!” 58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds. ---Abraham saw the Christ's day and was glad, Jesus says. The Christ is making a supreme claim about Abraham's spirituality, or religion, or vision. A religion that gets Christ wrong is defective vis-a-vis Abraham. And then comes Jesus' further statement, "Before Abraham was born, I am," "I am" being, as is well known, God's self-identification. I believe Muslims try to get around this passage by saying it's an interpolation or something. Well, that's a distinct matter; I don't think so. But the point here is that what Jesus says is central to Christian faith. An adherent of Mohammed may say that his religion is Abrahamic and Christianity is not because of this. That would be more forthright than this "Abrahamic religions" thing; I don't know who first came up with it; my guess is, it was a liberal professing Christian.

One cannot help but like Peter's Victorian high-mindedness and moral gravitas. Always a joy to listen to.

Mr Aitken, I'm particularly disappointed in you for not challenging Mr Hitchens' awfully sentimental and weak reasons for being a Protestant. Evidence suggests Elizabeth I (who was a Protestant under Edward VI and a supposedly devout Catholic under Mary) was a machiavellian opportunist with few religious convictions.

A soul-quenching conversation- thanks for the prayer and the whole reflective and venerable atmosphere, too! Peter is never boring, always challenging and deep - and this time a very likeable human being!

Peter laughing and smiling.

This video is exceptionally underrated. Especially considering the production value. Please do more of this walking interview format!

@davidfiler7439

4 ай бұрын

'This video is exceptionally underrated' Who by?

The Christians don’t worship the same god. For a start Islam denys the trinity, and denys that Jesus was the son of god or died on the cross.

@SagaciousFrank

4 ай бұрын

Islam isn't a branch of Christianity, so that's a non sequitur.

@davidfiler7439

4 ай бұрын

Don't confuse the little liars for the baby jesus, they'll only cry.@@SagaciousFrank

Priceless. Please continue.

Beautifully presented. Calm, reflective and challenging to one's own soul. It makes me so very thankful for being Catholic and English. I pray for Mr Hitchiens as I pray for the conversion of England to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Thank you.

@thadtuiol1717

4 ай бұрын

And genuflect before a Marxist Argie? GTFO

@solb101

4 ай бұрын

You should be still and want for nothing. The Pope can’t save you.

@yington

4 ай бұрын

What happens to him in the afterlife if he doesn’t convert, according to Catholicism? Does his Anglican Protestantism save him?

@johng1634

4 ай бұрын

@solb101 certainly not the current pope, with his support of mass illegal Islamic immigration, homosexuals and trans. He's pretty much the antichrist

@johntheunready8331

4 ай бұрын

@@solb101 Who said that he could?

Peter really is too gloomy. People are finding their way back to Christ. I have. An excellent discussion. I’ve subscribed.

"And that is why you need pessimists, because who else is going to buy the next round?"

Peter is a great man. Thank God for him! Thank you for the interview.

This is a lovely conversation, gentlemen. Thank you... ☝️😎

Christianity can make a comeback. The more i listen to people, the more unhappy it appears we all are with the secular/atheist society we have tried to implement.

@billyb6001

4 ай бұрын

You can be unhappy with church too. It’s not an answer for most people. That’s why they leave

@Nick_fb

3 ай бұрын

@ben0298 guess who made it.

@pavlos712

2 ай бұрын

Only Holy Orthodoxy

It's always a joy to hear Peter Hitchens reading from the Book of Common Prayer. This whole interview was a real pleasure to watch.

Amazing. Thank you ❤

This was absolutely splendid… from both of you. Thank you for the excellent content - and God Bless.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🙏

@mikehev222

4 ай бұрын

Flag ?

@matthewstokes1608

4 ай бұрын

@@mikehev222 English flag of St George… and?

@simonline1194

4 ай бұрын

I agree! This video REALLY resonated with me. I don’t know Robin but I’ve read most if not all of Peter’s books and agreed with his arguments whole-heartedly. Simonline🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤔😀👍

@simonline1194

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@mikehev222 The English flag of St George (as distinct from the Union flag of England (St. George), Scotland (St. Andrew) and Ireland (St. Patrick). Wales (St.David - yellow cross on black flag, not the Welsh dragon) is included under the English flag of St. George as Wales was once part of England). Simonline🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧😀👍

@mikehev222

4 ай бұрын

@@simonline1194 thanks for replying. What is it's relevance to this video?

I loved this interview, I could have listened for hours... I could have listened for hours.

@paulcalver7514

4 ай бұрын

Didn't mean to say the same 'thing' twice.

A quietly majestic piece. The Lord still reigns whether we subscribe to the notion or not, and irrespective of the decadence of our culture. O quam cito transit gloria mundi. Bless you, Peter Hitchens.

Thank you for evoking a past age that still resonates in the peace of the country church.

Wonderful absolutely wonderful. I KNEW I liked Peter Hitchens!! Now I know WHY! Peter thank you for your beautiful honesty shining through. More of this format also please...so relaxed and good humoured. Thank you both. God bless you both.

Beautiful.

I have to ask, at the great risk of sounding greedy, if there is any chance you could continue this conversation further?

Mystery, poetry and beauty, quite!

They travelled far and eager away believing they were escaping that which oppresses and stifled them. Blind were they to the reality that in killing God, they had unwittingly killed themselves. Some move so far but in a circle, winding back where they had fled from but much wiser. As Peter once quipped at Christopher, " Man is not great".

Thank you for the wonderful interview from the beautiful countryside.

Peter ‘how long have you got?’ Hitchens. Love it.

The decline is such a heartbreaking reality. My parents generation carried it out by refusing to expose us to anything religious, and their parents to a lesser extent by not keeping it as a central weekly appointment. I saw one Anglican Christingle as a boy - my mum took me. Eventually the sheer majesty of the steeples everywhere across the countryside silently booming “what happens here matters” made me ask grandma about the Bible. She showed me Sermon on the Mount and talked about choirs and incense and the beauty of the church and I asked if I could go to a Mass. Dad was beyond furious and asked me who’d indoctrinated me. Mum/grandma had to take me to church secretly because they thought it only fair to let me make my own choice but when dad found out he put a stop to it and I had to wait till I was 15 (I was maybe 11 when I got into Church buildings initially and then gradually Christianity). Then within weeks of my (for dad clandestine) baptism and confirmation dads persistent shoulder was diagnosed as terminal lung cancer. I hate to say it, and I have massed said for him, but really “woe to the one by whom the cause of stumbling comes”

@aaronclarke1434

4 ай бұрын

You’ll take that back one day. You’ll hate that you said it more and more. Your actual father is more precious than any imaginary one. One day you’ll want to talk to him again and realise you can’t. Ever. You’ll perhaps attend his graveside merely to pretend to talk to him. I say that as someone who disagrees strongly with my own father’s morals.

@kevinkelly2162

4 ай бұрын

The sermon on the mount was not in the earliest texts so basically you became a christian based on what some scribe wrote a least a hundred years after Jesus died.

@Augmenter

4 ай бұрын

@@kevinkelly2162 The earliest MSS for Alexander the great is the 9th Century. If you're going to spout this kind of stuff then all you do is undercut your own claim to historical knowledge. You're holding double standards.

@TheMOV13

4 ай бұрын

What a pity your dad couldn't have been a bit more relaxed and expansive about it all - may he find forgiveness and salvation even though his life on earth has reached its end. Prayers for our departed loved ones are extremely valuable.

@richardyates7280

4 ай бұрын

​@kevinkelly2162 The earliest texts will be fragments so it would be impossible to build a case for your assertion on such a basis.

I have no idea why I watched the whole thing but I did.

'let's sing it' 'no, let's not'

@TB-us7el

4 ай бұрын

that was great 😄

@homeschoolcambridge4670

4 ай бұрын

I wish they had sung it - have a feeling that at least one of them has a great voice

Thank you forshari g. Very entertaining and insightful.

Wonderful talk❤Lord Jesus Christ is King

@davidfiler7439

4 ай бұрын

bollokks!

I knew Hitchens would be the kind of man who’d be a Barbour aficionado (as am I). Wonderful interview format, beautiful rural backdrop of wet leafy lanes, small stone church and the pub for a stimulating yet ultimately very hopeful discussion.

Very enjoyable. Love this format.

Nice to see an interview come walk, where Peter isn't relentlessly attacked or misrepresented, so he in turn feels more at ease, and can respond more naturally and less defensively.

Marvellous. Thank you.

When I hear the word “Revolution” I run for my life! I truly miss Hitch.

This is delightful

You are so right I love you both Thankyou

I Always Remember Listening To A Muslim Man Who Had Become A Christian By Humbly Accepting Jesus Christ’s Complete Redemption - The Man Who Had Once Followed Islam Said - ‘I’ll Tell You Who Allah Is, He Is Satan.’ - His Own Very Illuminating Statement. Quite A Tragedy For Christians Wrongly To Say Otherwise - Tragic Indeed! Wrong Teaching Does Do So Much Harm. 😔 1 John 2 : 22-23 And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist. Anyone who denies the Son doesn’t have the Father, either. But anyone who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. NLT

This is a wonderful video by two excellent gentlemen...... I had the privilege of meeting Peter last year albeit briefly......though how can you have a trip to Binsey without reference to Gerard Manley Hopkins ' Binsey Poplars'? 'O if we but knew what we do when we delve or hew-hack and rack the growing green! Since country is so tender' ....how apt in the light of this discussion.

Beautiful format

Thank God for Peter.

What a beautiful interview

Great interview

45:08 I grew up in the 70s/80s Eastern Europe, where a divorced person was a rarity. There were no recreational drugs in any form, never smelled the ‘dosh’ before I came to England 20 years ago. There was the nuclear family - husband, wife, and usually two children. There was nothing wrong with with a person in position of authority - teacher, or police officer, to bludgeon you with that authority and send you to your father, where things could go physical with slapping and all kinds of consequences to you, the unruly teenager. What I see here in UK now is the exact opposite of the Soviet communism I grew up in as a trouble free, happy child.

A wonderful interview, as is always the case with Mr Hitchens. Thank you to all involved in facilitating this interview and for getting this out to us all. There is always hope, even amongst the darkness 🙏🏾

Loved this… thank you.

I watched this during the endless horrors of Gaza, and after two bombs exploded in Pakistan, killing 20 people. I'm not religious, but what a splendid conversation between two educated, thoughtful people. It renewed my faith in humanity.

Marvellous.

It's good to see Peter in a more relaxed and friendly demeanour

C. Hitchens last words, alluded to here, were in fact "Capitalism. Downfall."

@thadtuiol1717

4 ай бұрын

He also screamed and saw religious visions

@TB-us7el

4 ай бұрын

Apparently his last words, but it hardly sounds credible.

Peter back on form!

Peter Hitchens is my spirit animal.

Fantastic Conversation .

GBNews should expand to 3 or 4 channels and one of them should just be these guys given autonomy to have walks in the woods etc.

@timothypye901

4 ай бұрын

Noooooo!!! 🤣😂🤣

@ERobbins1234

4 ай бұрын

GBNews is full of fame-hungry trolls who aren't genuine conservatives.

Taking him on a walk was a good strategy. Can't walk out of the interview if you're already walking. Even had the surveillance drone up in case he tried to run.

@Vince-um5nq

4 ай бұрын

😂

@Star-hg1kt

4 ай бұрын

Lol that's a gud one.

Thoughtful and intelligent, I enjoyed it.

Interesting discussion and on topics I didn't think Peter openly spoke about. I know some parts of the discussion which he's refused to talk about and threatened to end interviews over in the past.

A watering down of British culture. I enjoyed this.

@TB-us7el

4 ай бұрын

the interview or the watering down?

@beryltheperil2185

4 ай бұрын

The 1st. The 2nd is a disaster for the native brit.

Beautiful video

Talking about the incomparable evil of abortion used, not as a contraceptive, but as a murderous corrective to contraception that has already taken place, in a church devoted to the saint for pregnant women.

I've read Mr. Hitchens and always enjoy and benefit from his talks etc. Queen Elizabeth I of course commissioned sacred music for her chapel from two prominent Catholics, Thomas Tallis and William Byrd. Her private Mass was in Latin. I'm a former Anglican (Episcopal Church USA) altar boy and now a Roman Catholic ("USA" which can be problematic and also combative for tradition.) That beautiful chapel looks Catholic with its stained glass windows of St. Margaret of Antioch (and also a statue of the Mother of God?). Great conversation.

first time confirmation of buddhist wisdom: there is no progress, only change. ❤

Never underestimate the thinking power of a tree.

It’s being pessimistic that keeps me so cheerful

Christopher's fatal flaw was making a straw man conjecture of the Christian God that didn't actually represent what Jesus stands for but rather formed a caricature of how the self-proclaimed believers around him conducted their faith

Good interview, and Binsey looks lovely. Subscribed

More of this please.

Thank you very much for this. I fear, however, that you underestimate the threat that Islam poses. Islam is a monoculture and has absolutely no interest in living along side other faiths. As Gavin Ashenden stated recently, Imams have told him that their stated objective is to turn our country into an Islamic caliphate in two generations. As their demographic, cultural and political power increase this will be more overt and aggressive in nature. Public prayer is less an act of piety and more an exercise of power and intimidation. Like the woke Left, (with whom they share similar aspects of psychology), they employ the language of victimhood and human rights to impose their demands. Underpinning all is an implicit threat of violence and the prospect of mass public disorder. Unless we wake up to this reality now, the West is lost.

@user-bv8fr4to8k

4 ай бұрын

I think if we collectively rediscover Christ we will be ok. However our secular "open" society will crumble in the face of it. To counteract the excesses and evil of Islam you need objective good which can only be found in Christ

@deborahrobertson8606

4 ай бұрын

I agree. Tragically our political leaders , in my opinion, are just globalist shills. This is the controlled demolition of the West. They are using mass Muslim immigration as a highly potent means to deracinate, demoralise and destroy our society. They do not want national borders nor identity.The demographic time bomb is frightening. The only answer is Christ.@@user-bv8fr4to8k

@mojmasood3259

3 ай бұрын

Your statement is full of lies and actually confirms Hitchens comments on the populism that targets muslims. Don’t justify your fears of Islam and muslims by spreading misinformation. Muslims are like any other faith group, just because they have a different culture or set of beliefs (or are increasing in number) that does not justify your objections to it apart from being tribal and worrisome about the future.

Interesting interview. Although, I think Islam is extremely problematic. As far as I’m aware the Arabic word ‘Allah’ does not simply mean God, and the words are not interchangeable. ‘Allah’ translates as ‘The God’, whereas the Arabic word for god is Ilah. That’s partly why when Muslims converse in English they still use the word ‘Allah’ and not the word God. Unfortunately, Islam is not a ‘religion of peace’, it is a totalitarian ideology that more often than not resorts to violence to coerce people into submission. I’m afraid to say that the more we see of it in Britain the more our freedoms will be eroded.

@keftinmepants562

4 ай бұрын

Yes, both men showed an ignorance of Islam.

To be fair, I think it can be argued that Marxists got their conceptions of history from Hegelianism's belief in dialectics, but Karl's materialism clashes with his teacher's idealism.

Peter is wrong about Muslims worshipping the same God as Christians. As a Christian we believe fundamentally that Jesus Christ is God manifest in flesh, that He suffered on the cross, died and rose again so that we may have atonement of our sins and receive eternal life. This is the most important belief in Christianity because one must believe these truths in order to receive salvation from an eternity in hellfire. Islam denies these facts because their scripture differs profoundly from the Bible and Muhammad IS NOT a Christian prophet. Muhammad came with a completely different message to that of Jesus, his disciples and Apostle Paul therefore we DO NOT have the same God. It's astonishing to me that someone as wise and learned as Peter does not know this.

@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR

4 ай бұрын

It surprised me as well. In Islam, the name of god is Allah, not YHWH. Allah is merely the translation of the word 'God' into arabic, so it is normal that in Catholic churches that use arabic liturgies that they say 'Allah', but this does not mean in any way that it is the same God. He is dead wrong.

@humanbeing4841

4 ай бұрын

@@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR Spot on. It appears to me that Peter should probably study more of his Bible as well as the differences between Christianty and Islam.

@jimtomo9207

4 ай бұрын

Just look at Nigeria at the moment and tell me that there is nothing to worry about.

@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR

4 ай бұрын

@@humanbeing4841 Allah of Islam can in no way be YHWH. He is not triune, muslims deny Christ, and claim tawhid. Anyone having done cursory research into Islam and Christianity would not fall for conflating the 2. Muslims in the west will often claim that we worship the same god in an effort to appease doubts and to mislead weakly catechised Christians or atheists. Muslims in islamic countries would condemn of blasphemy anyone claiming the same.

@timothypye901

4 ай бұрын

🤣😂🤣 I love these 'my God's different to your God' arguments. Hilarious really.

The First Earl of Blackpill himself. Peter says a great many true things, and that very eloquently, but he has raised the white flag. He will no longer fight for anything.

@TB-us7el

4 ай бұрын

maybe to do with his age or perhaps he is realistic as to the futility of things.

Where can I find the closing piece of music?

Love Mr hitchens

I would be interesting to know how Christianity came to England? We Americans know very little about that.

Peter is simply the only journalist I trust. Dont agree with most of his positions but I trust him to tell the truth.

Way better than anything you’ll see on telly.

Yes, eventually, the glass is always empty.

Excellent. This is the conversation I needed to listen to. But I wish you would hold the camera still. I felt quite at sea

Speaking as one of those dour Strict Baptist pastors I wanted to say a thank you for a really fascinating conversation. Thank you.

I agree with Peter about the New Atheists: they have brought a renewed attention to matters of faith and Christianity in particular.

Wonderful video. I had to turn up the volume to hear what Peter was saying, he does mumble a bit! Looking on the map I understand his comment near the start about being near the ring road. I must have driven on the A34 many times past that church with no idea it was there.

Hi New Humanum, many years ago I first began to suspect the integrity of those who start a statement with a claim about other people based on their own beliefs and assumptions, this one strikes a chord for me because I have never particularly wanted to know what is rue, I am entirely satisfied being able to establish falsehood but that of course only applies to statement purporting to be fact. Everything else that is not supported by material evidence but also does no qualify as fact, such as opinion, belief imagination, thought and emotion comes and goes on the tides of popular fashion, the one particular feature that I can identify is that there is very little available information and thus offers nothing much to work with, such ideas and concepts can be discussed and debated until the cows come home but no conclusions ever reached. The point at issue here is that any statement that attempts to follow a proper logical narrative depends on the veracity of the base premises, if one or more of them is seriously flawed the whole chain of logic is corrupted and any conclusions false, it is essential that we all scrutinise our assumptions very carefully, general claims about the nature of humanity are particularly difficult to sustain. Cheers, Richard.

This was a wonderful conversation. Peter gets better and better with age and puts his case quietly and thoughtfully. I only have one contention, I do not think that Christians can really agree that the Quran is the last word from God. The Quran disputes that Christ rose from the dead and is emphatic that Jesus was a human and no more than a prophet. Not the same God. We must love our neighbours though, and debate them with love, never hate. All are made in the image of God regardless of how they have been misled.