I love y'all but I'd like you to consider how fked up it is to beseech me to stay in a state where I don't have the right to use public restrooms. It's only getting worse from here. On that note, please consider signing up on Patreon to help me move 2,000 miles to somewhere where my family and I will be safe from political persecution: patreon.com/luxander

@tulw2728

Ай бұрын

Move to Florida. It’s a beautiful state. Forget about others to live happily.

@LuxanderReal

Ай бұрын

@@tulw2728 this is some quality lost-touch-with-reality posting, thanks for the laugh

@tulw2728

Ай бұрын

@@LuxanderReal People can still LEGALLY vote in KANSAS.

@LuxanderReal

Ай бұрын

@@tulw2728 right, you understand this means any law or procedure that impedes people voting is now legal though?

@tulw2728

Ай бұрын

@@LuxanderReal It’s procedure to make sure that anyone voting, does it legally. It’s just like carding people when buying tobacco and alcohol or medical products. It’s just a matter of complying. What’s wrong with that?

If a state passes a laws to restrict voting, they shouldn't be allowed to vote in any federal elections. No senate seats, no house seats, no say in the presidential elections until they get their act together.

@peytoncrome9387

Ай бұрын

I fucking agree

@Soundtracks92

Ай бұрын

Yep

@gigaus0

Ай бұрын

They can't. There's statutes and laws in place basically saying what you're saying. Problem is, no one learns that in school anymore, and no one is willing to go through with it because 'oh then they might get violent!'

@Progressive_Alien

Ай бұрын

They shouldn't be able to take any federal assistance either. Like are they even considered a state of the USA if they deny citizens the right to vote considering voting it's a federal constitutional rights.

@tracysample6942

Ай бұрын

If only Republicans cared what you thought.

Just remember: No taxation without representation. If they take our rights away, they can kiss our taxes goodbye.

@kennyholmes5196

Ай бұрын

That goes for ALL taxes, not just the ones from within Kansas itself. And Kansas is _quite_ the beneficiary of the funds raised from other states.

@Remedy462

Ай бұрын

They'll just pass a law to imprison you. I assume this requires a revolution similair to the one this country was founded upon? We are gping for more historical traditions no? Revolution is the most historical one.

@Basilica19

Ай бұрын

Project 2025 promises to eliminate income tax and to introduce tariffs in order to recuperate the money. That will be the end of us. Famine and homelessness knock on our doors if republicans win.

@blue-vu1ek

Ай бұрын

If you don't pay, the IRS can confiscate anything you own. A better way to fight back is to Write Call Email Visit your representative. again and again and again. They are owned by rich men, but they also want to keep those very lucrative jobs. If we make it clear, they lose that access to big money, they start to listen.

Apparently the only 'right' we really have is the right to no rights...

@Ayyylien51

Ай бұрын

You have the right to remain stagnant!

Here are the authors of project2025: Jonathan Berry, Ben Carson, Ken Cuccinelli, Rick Dearborn, Thomas Gilman, Mandy Gunasekara, Gene Hamilton, Christopher Miller, Bernard McNamee, Stephen Moore, Mora Namdar, Peter Navarro, William Perry Pendley, Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Kiron Skinner, Roger Severino, Hans von Spakovsky, Brooks Tucker, Russell Vought, and Paul Winfree We need to stop these goons through litigating them out of existence!!!

@Axolotl_olive

Ай бұрын

Congress announced an investigation and a Stop Project 2025 committee last week. They better succeed or it's off to the camps for everyone not white, not straight and not loyal.

@nomad634

Ай бұрын

Every one of them is a God Damned Nazi

It has blown my mind watching the party of small government and less laws in your way, Become the party of lots of laws to protect capital and restrict life.

@Nemo12417

Ай бұрын

Freedom for me, law and order for thee.

@Synodalian

Ай бұрын

Thanks to the Southern Strategy. The white supremacist South originally took the strategy of blocking as much federal power as possible until they realized thanks to FDR, LBJ, and the Warren Court that they were never gonna be able to shield themselves against them in the long run. So along came the Powell Memorandum, the founding of the Heritage Foundation, and the election of Reagan culminating in the Republican Revolution which allowed the interests of the South to not simply just preserve "states rights", but _infiltrate_ federal offices/agencies, Congress, and the higher courts to steer the entire country in their direction.

@havable

Ай бұрын

They were always the party of big govt and more laws. Every time the GOP is in charge they put more restrictions on people and blow trillions of our dollars, either by giving it away to billionaires directly or by lying us into wars or both.

@Axolotl_olive

Ай бұрын

They are white nationalists. They think they're promoting state's rights because they don't have basic education in government systems and can't realize that if he gets back in ultimate power, there would be one state, one nation, with a convicted felon liar at the helm. These are weak, small-minded, people who really need our help if we want to end this.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

NO VOTE, NO TAXATION

The feds need to step in and reprimand these judges and state officials. Every one of them belongs in jail.

@MarcVL1234

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, no legal grounds for that. There is no right to vote in the US Constitution either. This is how convicted felons can be denied the right to vote, depending on state constitutions / laws. Messed up, but the law is seldom our friend or a thing that leads to good.

@ThatFont

Ай бұрын

Taking away anyone’s right to vote should be considered treason.

@havable

Ай бұрын

@@MarcVL1234 It should be the top priority to pass a new constitutional amendment guaranteeing our right to vote. Anyone objecting to it hates America, by definition.

@smokedbeefandcheese4144

Ай бұрын

😂 what “need” do they have

@volk4523

Ай бұрын

@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 Preventing genocide on home soil is a pretty obvious one, bud.

“We decided not to give you the right to vote and you can’t change that because you can’t vote. So shut up and pay your taxes.”

This damn country is going to hell in a handbasket.

@gigaus0

Ай бұрын

gone*

@aubreyleonae4108

Ай бұрын

Water slide with the water replaced by burning gasoline.

What the state constitution says is meaningless on this issue. The "right to vote," in that exact language, is spelled out all over the federal constitution and the amendments. It can only be denied for criminal conviction. There's no way this doesn't appeal to the circuit court and get laughed out of the courtroom.

@smokedbeefandcheese4144

Ай бұрын

Political power don’t come from paper tho

@Axolotl_olive

Ай бұрын

@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 IT REALLY DOES.

There are some rights that need to be protected at the federal level and not lumped under state rights.

@tracysample6942

Ай бұрын

Republicans stole the Supreme Court for that precise reason. It kept ruling in favor of pesky protected rights.

@smokedbeefandcheese4144

Ай бұрын

No way to fix it tho maybe 20 yrs ago but it’s to late

@thisbushnell2012

Ай бұрын

Never too late. I'm sure the few non-nazi Germans felt the same way in 1928. But we are not postWWI Germans. Their mindset of being SUBJECTS TO THE KEISER made them easy prey, unused to having a political voice.Though the powers behind das Lange Putsch have tried to recreate the fears of economic hyperinflation (unsucessfully), of insular identity of American as a monoculture, the very essence of this Nation is its diversity. It still rings true, "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin We ALL BELONG HERE. WE MUST GUARANTEE EACH OTHER'S RIGHTS, OR THERE WILL BE NO RIGHTS GUARANTEED TO ANY OF US. Kansas Supreme Court has ruled there is NO RIGHT TO VOTE in that state. DAS LANGE PUTSCH IS OPENLY ON THE MOVE.

This is one reason i like living in a country with mandatory voting, it's not perfect but they can't do this shit.

@thisbushnell2012

Ай бұрын

The one problem I can see with a mandatory vote is the facility with which individuals can be identified and punished or otherwise targeted for their choices.

@Axolotl_olive

Ай бұрын

The US needs to have that. If they had, the GOP would have died a lot longer ago and MAGA would have never been in power. They know their policies are garbage that's why they have to gerrymander to win. Abolish the electoral college and mandate voting. It's the only way to keep the US a democracy.

@avishevin1976

Ай бұрын

@@thisbushnell2012 What part of your mind equates mandatory with non-anonymous?

They're not even trying to hide it anymore...

@annmarieknapp

Ай бұрын

The bigots are out front and center

@thisbushnell2012

Ай бұрын

Then NAME IT. FASCISM. DAS LANGE PUTSCH IS ON THE MOVE. THE AMERICAN NAZIS WHO INFESTED MADISON SQUARE GARDEN IN 1939 HAVE BEEN WORKING ON PROJECT 2025 FOR DECADES.

Guys, MAGA and Trump want to take us to full southern-styled fascism. VOTE! (While you still can.)

@gliscorpropagandaaccount1764

8 күн бұрын

Southern styled?

It's 2024 and Kansas is fighting for the right to vote. Cool.

@rhodawatkins4516

Ай бұрын

They're probably just mad that their people voted to keep abortion rights to save women's lives. They said, "We'll fix them."

@firefly9838

Ай бұрын

I live in KS... can't say I have ever voted. Its way too far of a drive for me.

@valeriebreathet741

Ай бұрын

@@firefly9838 This year, if you have the right to vote, no matter the challenge - VOTE!!! Are there mail in ballots?

@blus17

Ай бұрын

@@firefly9838 No absentee ballots?

"The only rights you have are RIGHT THIS WAY" George Carlin about Japanese American rights during WW2.

@Bergtrolfer

Ай бұрын

Norway here, "Maybe its the VOTERS thats f'ed?" -George Carlin

You only have the right to be discriminated against by the religious bigots.

Hold on. Just because your state does not give you a fundamental right to vote, does not your federal government give you that right? That should override everything for federal elections.

@smokedbeefandcheese4144

Ай бұрын

One would hope

@blue-vu1ek

Ай бұрын

Some states are letting you keep your right to state votes. Like for county commissioners. school board etc. But they are pushing to away your federal votes, like for President. They claim the General Public are not informed enough and the presidency requires knowledgeable individuals, read that as the legislators themselves, are the only ones capable of voting for federal positions. Arizona is currently working on just such legislation. As is Texas and Florida

See, it's happening. We haven't seen the last of it. What are you willing to do now? How are you willing to correct this situation? We all need to act.

@Axolotl_olive

Ай бұрын

Women need to join the International Women's Army. It's the only way to end this.

Ah yes, Kansans need to get an amendment on the ballot that states they have the right to vote, which should be easy enough, then they just need to vote yes on that proposal and... oh wait.

Get out and VOTE DO NOT PROTEST VOTE OR SIT OUT THIS YEAR

As a transfem individual from KS. This and all of P2025 is super concerning. I wish I had the ability to get out of here.

@drganknstein

Ай бұрын

Wtf is transfem? I also have to worry because I like to eat pizza and I guess that makes me a transpizza person. I could stop eating pizza and I'll be ok but I choose not to because I've been brainwashed into thinking this is normal for humans.

Time to inform them that th section of the state constitution doesn't guarantee you have the right to stop someone taking a dump in your mailbox either...

@MBJean

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@havable

Ай бұрын

State constitution doesn't prevent insane justices from being committed to insane asylums.

This is terrifying 😱 who's to say what's next on the chopping block or if other states will try too. Making it only so who the politicians want to vote can and for their way they want them to vote... Wouldn't be a democracy anymore ( it hasn't seemed to have been for a while now. At least not for the people themselves)

This makes me want to see a comic where the Kents move out of Kansas because of the nonsense. I can't imagine Supes is happy about this.

"The decision was written by Justice Caleb Stegall, who is seen as the most conservative of the court’s seven justices. Stegall dismissed the strongly-worded objections of the dissenting justices, saying there is not a 'fundamental right to vote' in Section 2 of the Bill of Rights, as the groups had argued." Ever since the election of Obama, conservatives have been rejecting democracy. It's almost as if they don't want certain people voting or running for office.

So frustrating watching people who listen to "It Could Happen Here" have a massive overlap with the people saying "I can't vote for a {jen-oh-side} enabler". The cognitive dissonance is mind boggling, especially those who are part of a minority that's at risk for falling victim to a domestic (jen*oh*syde*).

Happy pride and keep fighting for your rights.

There is also no right to vote in the Federal Constitution. If you read the various amendments involving voting, they all say where there is voting, the right to vote cannot be abridged because of race, sex, or age if over 17. But voting CAN be restricted based on other factors. And I would not put it past the current conservative courts to rule states do not have to allow anyone but an elite few to vote. After all, when the Constitution was first passed, in most states only white male landowners could vote. Now, the amendments for race and sex would eliminate the "white male" part, but there is nothing that says a state can't restrict voting to people who own 50 acres or more of real property, for example. This is why it is extremely vital that Trump not get another chance to destroy American democracy.

Voting is a human right. And the USA signed to keep them up. I’m so glad I don’t live in the USA.

The last civil war in my country, Costa Rica, started because there wasn't clear who won one presidential election. After restoring democracy, laws and institutions (mainly the Supreme Electoral Court: TSE) were crafted to take of care of elections and protect the right to vote: 1. Here, you need a voter ID to cast vote, but the TSE will give all costaricans one when they became elegible to vote. You lost an ID? Go to the TSE and they'll give you one the same day if possible. They take care of ALL the process of registering to vote, you're on their records when you're born, and also assigning you to a polling station. 2. There is only 1 day to assigned to casting your ballot personally, but you have the right to go to cast a ballot. Your boss doesn't let you go to vote? If you tell that to the Electoral Court they'll send the police to your job to get you out of there. Your boss are going to deduct the time you were voting from your salary? No, he won't, or the laboral inspectors will fall hard on him.

Hopefully Kansans will leave the state in protest. That is ridiculous.

@smokedbeefandcheese4144

Ай бұрын

Many want this

Unelected politicians with life terms are deciding every issue in our lives. Is there any other word for this than tyranny?

I'm scared... 😢😭💔

@lilpetz500

Ай бұрын

Oh the moment I found out about Project 2025 onwards has had me terrified and sligjtly considering disaster prepping. *and I'm Australian with no plans to ever be in the US* Whatever political matters come up in the US tend to influence here too, just with a little forewarning for people who keep in the loop. But I don't feel right just instilling more doom and fear in the people I know are terrified and unsafe under the proposed changes. It isn't guaranteed yet, and nothing is made permanent, we've progressed rights before and we have the templates to do it again if we need to. And revolution is not off the table. I never want it to come to that, but to my awareness this whole political system's been unsustainable for at least 40 years now. It's going to break sometime anyway. Please stay safe and hopeful 💙 Even if the worst happens, they can't take all joy and safety out of life, and there are so, so many fighting on your side.

@annmarieknapp

Ай бұрын

Don't be sad, get pissed. Anger is a more motivating emotion.

@TheMouseAvenger

Ай бұрын

@@annmarieknapp Well, I AM angry. I'm angry, scared, AND sad all at the same time, & I WANNA try & do something about all these things, but I feel kinda helpless -- even though I shouldn't (& normally don't) -- because of various personal factors.

@TheMouseAvenger

Ай бұрын

@@lilpetz500 I know, & I usually am a very hopeful, optimistic, & cheerful person by nature. ^_^ Thanks so much for your kind response! *(big hugs)*

We're not in Kansas anymore. We're in can'tsas.

The original requirements to vote was in the body of the constitution, not the amendments like the "bill of rights." That is where the right to vote is established. Also most constitutions that have amendments that is a bill of rights have an amendment that states something like "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

So, Japan definitely has a lot of problems, but one thing they have that I think is really smart is essentially a family stamp. Each member of the family gets one and it's essentially their last name (but usually stylistic like a signature) and is used for the same kinds of things we sign for, like opening bank accounts, signing contracts, ect. They also have little cheap ones that you can use to sign for mail and what-not. Anyway, it definitely helps with the "signature always looks the same" because it's literally a stamp registered to you and your family. It will always look the same. I don't know that a similar system really could be implemented here, but if it could, honestly it would definitely help in situations where your signature not looking precisely identical would cause issues like this.

@OneEyeShadow

Ай бұрын

I think checking that a signature looks right is a fool's errand. They tend to look different and copying the look of another person's signature isn't hard. The point of a signature in my mind is that forging one is a serious crime and can't be excused away in court, cause one of the parties involved is committing some kind of forgery.

Hey Luxander, in 2016 ,we retired and sold our house in Colorado to live a nomads life. When we wanted a home base, we could no longer afford Colorado. Our 70k home in Fort Scott would cost us over 500k in our former hometown of Lafayette. We are rocking the blue all the way! Every vote we cast, every petition we sign, or action we participate in is a win for Kansas. Don't run away to a progressive state. Stay right here and fight! Work to change the state constitution! Work on minds and thoughts of the red people you know. Frankly, Colorado had its political problems, too. It's always up to us, the people, to stay vigilant and put in the work to live in the world we want.

As a disabled person I want out of this hell to! Unfortunately I think we need to flee outta the country! Crazy has been going on every where!

I mean it's Kansas. Come to California, Oregon, Washington State, New York, Maine, New England, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Colorado, or New Mexico, for the most progressive experience.

@kennyholmes5196

Ай бұрын

*New England with the exception of New Hampshire

@Attaxalotl

Ай бұрын

Please do not come to New Mexico, houses are unaffordable as is

It’s like comedian George Carlin said. You have a bunch of temporary privileges because if somebody can take them away, they’re not a right.

Kansass. Time to vote out the trash while you can!😡

May I suggest relocating to Minnesota?

RIP democracy

And trumps not even president

Voting is not a right, it is a responsibility

Crazy old Boomer (1962) here who used to say, “If I can’t vote, don’t ever send me a draft notice. Need cannon fodder? Get them from the people who have a stake in this place.”

#voteblue up and down ballot in 2024 elections to save democracy and human rights!

the right to vote is federal is it not?

The Constitution gives you the right to vote: The Civil Rights Act, the 19th Amendment.

Tell your representatives how you would like to be represented. Petition, write, attend, protest. THEN you can hold your representatives accountable if they listen to the corporate lobby over the citizen lobby. If there is no cirizen lobby of course representatives are going to listen to the corporare lobby. Use media to point out all representatives that do not genuinely represent their constituent. Call for investigation and prosecution of favoritism, bribery, insider trading, and corruption. Selfish candidates put in the work because they want to get into positions of wealth and power. Benevolent candidates don't put in the same level of work because they do not really want to elevate themselves above others. So we need to find and elevate the benevolent candidates and put in the work to lift them up. If there are no benevolent candidates then you need to run and allow others to lift you up into a position of power.

Hey Luxander. Also in KS, residing in our little blue dot. Just found your channel. Keep up the great work *fistbump* Liked and subscribed.

Just by posting this you inform others. Thank you for helping keep others in the know! Good luck with your move!

That's is absolutely ridiculous

Idaho is over there being crushed to death under litigation, but it's gonna see what Kansas is doing and go "ugh fuhk😩I want that so byaaaad"

You didn't vote with a provincial ballot, it was a provisional ballot. I was going to say that even Kansas isn't that provincial, but the Supreme Court decision you were discussing makes me question that.

@LuxanderReal

Ай бұрын

Got my words mixed up

@snowmonster42

Ай бұрын

@@LuxanderReal You're fine. I didn't want to be "that guy" by pointing it out, but it sounded so funny I couldn't help it. Probably because I kind of feel like people from the basket of deplorables probably should be voting with a provincial ballot.

Norway here, Stump and his Swindler's List for Rikers Island-24

I’m surprised, the Kansas constitution has not been amended to protect citizens right to vote. This kind of technicality is just shocking. I hope the people protest this

Well, in this particular moment, we really DO need to focus on voting until we get past November safely.

Kansas is so bad :( Utah here i want out

My first presidential election i could vote was al Gore versus bush junior when I was 20

Any type of restriction or obstacle to citizens voting is always for the worse. Now a state straight up saying it's not your right?

Finally someone is talking about this!!

This is TERRIFYING.

I had a stroke. After my last driver's license. My signature is different now because my right hand was affected by the stroke. Probably won't be able to renew my license (I don't drive anyway because vision was affected).

There is no right to vote in the federal constitution either. There's a lot of rules on how states can run their elections, but nothing says they need to have one. It is crazy, but it makes sense when you remember that the people writing the constitution very much did not want some people voting.

we as a country have to vote out these extremists

I live in Oklahoma and I want to move to a more progressive state. After what happened to Nex... I can't live here being LGBTQ myself. Its not safe at all.

@LuxanderReal

Ай бұрын

Get in touch with RainbowPassage.org if you need any help

Yeah this is why I’m getting the hell out of KS AND this country! KS is determined to be the worst state in the Midwest, I swear.

@annmarieknapp

Ай бұрын

Florida is a real hole now. At least you all have abortion enshrined.

@loganhaynes9176

Ай бұрын

Missouri is the worst

I was around during the AIDs epidemic in the 80’s, gay people were fearsome warriors who demanded their rights - dig deep people.

that explains the voter registration deadline in fucking february. as a kansas resident i can’t vote in the 2024 election 🙃

The US Oligarchs are willing to stoop to any low.

What we really need to do is mainstream hostility towards religious fundamentalism. Especially towards politicians and public officials that promote, or deliberately enable it. I am sick of the rapists ruling us.

I hope Kansas loses all federal funding if they go through with this.

@Attaxalotl

Ай бұрын

No taxation without representation!

New Mexico is the sane one between two nutty states, much of it is inexpensive too.

@BengtNordsten

Ай бұрын

While I felt "at home" in Santa Fe, it just got too expensive, being a destination for gazillionaires from Silicon Valley and Texas. I described Albuquerque as "south Minneapolis with palm trees" -- the scruffy, working-class space but without the wide-ranging urban variety of the Twin Cities.

Even if you have to wait until next year for a ballot initiative you're actually better off with the odds of it passing. Smaller elections have smaller electorates. People who are activists on this will show up and have a greater impact than in a prez election year.

Plz, f🤬ck'n vote!

Note to write-in voters: The vast majority of states in the US require a write-in ticket to be registered to count. Only less than a dozen states (VT, NH, RI, NJ, PA, AL, IA,, WY, and OR so far as AR and KS no longer do so) allow any write-in vote to be counted. This means if you write-in the Party for Socialism & Liberation ticket or the American Solidarity Party ticket or whatever, it'll only be counted if what you're writing in already has registered write-in status beforehand. PSL has registered write-in status in Indiana and AS has it in New York. This status of registration for write-in being required or not in a states is subject to change via the Secretary of State like how Arkansas and Kansas started requiring registration for write-ins soon after RFK Jr said he was running as an Independent.

Sadly, those who think "eyeballing" is a valid method are either willfully disregarding statistical modeling or they are mathematically illiterate. Even a handwriting specialist uses inferential statistics to see if there is a "statistically significant" difference between one version of a person's signature and another. I signed an e-contract yesterday with my finger on a smart phone screen. To the naked "eyeball" it doesn't look like my signature, yet it is. Thus, signature verification should be done by computers.

Hi, I too live in a red state, Wyoming: Where men are men and sheep are scared! I know what your talking about with the gerrymandering, I have been a Democrat living in Dick Cheney's home town of Casper for over 20 years now.

I did not find any information on the Internet stating the citizens of KS don't have the right to vote. Where is it stated?

@LuxanderReal

Ай бұрын

Did you forget how to google out of curiosity? apnews.com/article/voting-rights-kansas-supreme-court-0a0b5eea5c57cf54a9597d8a6f8a300e

@jockaud

Ай бұрын

@@LuxanderReal Thank you - I didn't see that link in my search!

Please stay, we need people like you.

Who needs rights? We just need to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps.

Mass hysteria reaches its peak when one person within the mass gets the correct information and share it with others.

This is getting out of hand…everyone has a right to vote it’s a FEDERAL RIGHT. They can NOT say people can’t vote, THAT IS AGAINST THE US CONSTITUTION!

Even if the state says you don't have the right to vote that shouldn't hold any water because it's a federal right correct?

Eugene Oregon is pretty good. Blue state, for now. Cahoots is great intead of badges and guns. Transponder is a great local support group.

Come to CT, we will welcome you ❤

Be ready to fight.

Be careful team America, it looks like 'they' are punting!

How does the state government get elected then? Doesnt that require voting?

Of course, Kansas would be the state trying to pull this garbage!

Is it really about power that they want to take away rights , there has to be more to their agenda than power .

Can't stop voting in a federal election?

Get out of that place it will only get worse.

@LuxanderReal

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Definitely working on it

good luck i hope you are able to get out of that place fast

It's still a federal rite and federal supersedes state in all cases.

Expect all other RED states to follow suit. Maybe that will wake even the MAGAts up to what this party is doing!