If you welcome someone into your home and they in turn say I would like to destroy your home, I think you can kindly ask them to leave before they start to actively destroy it.

@macsnafu

Ай бұрын

Right. The issue most people overlook on immigration is that it's still about property rights. A property owner has the right to include OR exclude people from their property. Agreeable guests get to stay, disagreeable guests have to leave.

@danboehm9088

Ай бұрын

​@@macsnafu 80% agree given the current status quo. But also, the collective shouldn't have the ability to dictate who can be included or excluded from your property.

@NoOne-bp2jw

27 күн бұрын

Exactly.

@macsnafu

27 күн бұрын

@@danboehm9088 Right. Immigration is messed up because of the government and the political border. The federal government is not a legitimate owner of most of the property in the U.S. You might have been able to say that the federal government represented property owners back when you had to be a landowner to be able to vote, but that hasn't been true in quite a long time.

Stop sacrificing, cold, hard truth for being polite

As a Canadian i can honestly say that Canada is falling apart.

@theslimeylimey

Ай бұрын

I have lived in the Lower Mainland east of Vancouver BC since the eighties. Anyone under the age of 35 or who has not been in this country more than 20 years does not realize how far Canada gone downhill. I was in my twenties in the 90's and the drop in quality of life for young people today compared to back then is drastic.

@danielstennert1263

Ай бұрын

As a Swede, I can say Sweden is convulsing.

@Furluge

Ай бұрын

@@theslimeylimey I remember in the 90's the CAD being worth more than the USD. Now a CAD is only worth $0.74 USD.

@ab8588

Ай бұрын

Yes John Turner was right . Open borders with the USA was going ruin Canada

@jceepf

Ай бұрын

See how Trudeau spends money on provincial jurisdictions because it is easier to give bonbons on health and housing. And, when it comes to federal jurisdictions, he cuts everything: militray and wilful abandonment of immigration control... And he has the balls to spend 280 millions for a passport that falls apart and is devoid of Canadian symbols---- alledgedly because the secure features are costly. Secure features???? easier to enter Canada as an illegal at the Roxham border. Then the 60 million CDN$ "ArriveCan" which is worthy of the most corrupt African regime. I guess we have now cultural diversity: the corruption of Nigeria, Montreal is mini-Beyruth and Vancouver/Toronto are Asian dumps. Yell "death to the Jews" but do not claim that there are two genders!

I'm pretty pro-immigration but does Robby not think the very least we could do is give preference to people who...don't want to destroy America?

@augustgreig9420

Ай бұрын

All of his arguments here are completely insane. They are downright juvenile and poorly thought out. I don't know what it will take for people like him to admit that it isn't time right now to be an ideologue or try to implement full blown Libertarianism piecemeal and backwards. They see the open boarder as a win somehow when meanwhile we have a plutocracy running a surveillance state. Yet people like him are happy to destroy the labor pool with millions of illegals, many of whom come here with far more money than 60% of Americans and the rest will undercut everyone else's wages at a time out of control inflation. He's really on here saying we need to build houses and increase our labor market. I mean, it's so insanely backwards I don't even think it qualifies as wrong. We have millions of homes and apartments sitting empty because people can't even afford to rent, an the job market is already horrible, everyone knows this, they can try to hide it with fake numbers all they want. All these corporations do stuff now like only working people 20-29 hours a week so they don't have to pay for healthcare, but will still want people to work 5 days a week during peak hours, and the pay is terrible. Everyone is working multiple jobs or doing side gigs. And illegals are coming in and taking the gig jobs first and driving down that pay. But no, we need them to build more houses.... For who? For more illegals to squat in? He's lost his mind.

@screwstatists7324

Ай бұрын

Liberalism only exists among whites, but don't let the itallians in

@nedhill1242

Ай бұрын

No one is anti-immigration, only anti-illegal immigration. And Robby is wrong. We do have a lot of crime, Mostly from minorities, but illegals are bringing a LOT of crime as well.

@paxiahern2383

Ай бұрын

They seemed to be talking about people who are already legal immigrants who just happen to have the wrong thoughts. I'm not for considering legal, naturalized citizens second class. "Death to America" is the motto of a few groups so not surprising someone would chant it. Personally I hate it but it is like a child who spray paints a swastika; just a poorly thought out cry for attention using what they think is the most egregious phrase they can muster. We should not take the bait.

@pyroseed13

Ай бұрын

@@nedhill1242 This just isn't true. Most Republicans now want lower immigration overall. And no, illegals are not bringing a lot crime. Yes, legal immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than illegal immigrants, but even illegal immigrant crime is not especially high.

I can't believe Robbie tried to hide the ball with old leftist truck of conflating legal immigrants with illegal aliens.

As a Canadian I can attest that its a shit hole where we have no rights and are taxed to death. Some of the highest taxes in the world

@lordbarham1

22 күн бұрын

We have rights, but we also have the notwithstanding clause which can be used to overrule them. Don't blame the federal government for that odious piece of legislation: blame the provincial governments of the day, because it was the clause that got them to sign on to patriating the constitution from Britain. Despite that odious piece of legislation, we still enjoy the same rights and freedoms as any other functioning western democracy. To say otherwise is both disingenuous and misleading. This isn't the Russia of Vladimir Poutain, or Vic Orban's Hungary. This isn't a dictatorship. Regarding the Mothertruckers convoy, they occupied downtown Ottawa for several weeks and showed no sign of going away unless forced to do so. They deliberately trampled on the rights and freedoms of Ottawa-ans, firstily, by blocking their ability to move freely within their city, and secondly, by making a lot of noise with their truck horns and bear horns at all hours of the day and night. They are only lucky I wasn't living or staying in Ottawa at the time, because I would have sorted out those conspiracy theory nut jobs with a baseball bat, or died trying! Ditto the scum who were protesting outside our hospitals by screaming and yelling abuse and threats at overworked hospital workers who were dealing with the pandemic and watching people die from Covid everyday! The people who go on about freedom only want the freedom to do as they please without regard to the consequences of how their so-called freedom affects other people. The great thinkers, like John Locke, who first formulated our ideas of freedom, believed in freedom with responsibility, and made the mistake of assuming that people, when given such freedom, would choose to behave responsibly. Instead, what we see are selfish, self-centred individuals with massive chips on their shoulders whining and complaining about how their freedom is being curtailed. They don't actually want true freedom, the freedom that comes with the responsibility to use that freedom wisely for the good of all: instead, what they actually want, is freedom from responsibility. Their notion of freedom is to be able to behave like a spoilt brat and get away with it.

As a former volunteer chaplain in the California state prison system I can verify that the plurality of inmates are African American or Latin American. There are caucasian Americans as well but they are outnumbered. That was not statistics; it was with my own lying eyes.

@screwstatists7324

Ай бұрын

Those are the convictions. We all know about 13/60

@lordbarham1

22 күн бұрын

and we also know that Black People and Hispanic People are more likely to be harassed b y the police and also more likely to live in poorer communities with fewer resources and opportunities. Add to that, the clear and obvious racism that persists in America, agains Black and Hispanic People, and to me, it's a wonder they aren't all engaging in anti-social behaviour. I lived in a white, snot-nosed suburb of California, and, being Canadian, it was astonishing to me how willingly my fellow students (we were 13 and 14 t the time) readily engaged in behaviour like breaking and entering and stealing. Yet, these were all kids who came from the upper middle classes. If they got caught, would they have been sent to prison, or given a caution and told not to do it again? The worst most of them got, when they got caught, was to be put on some kind of probation. They certainly weren't sent to reform school or prison. Amazing how many of them engaged in gang activities as well, despite coming from a posh suburb.

Honestly, The Hill doesn't deserve you, Robby and Amber. I'd love to see you on your own show like this more often.

@danros6530

Ай бұрын

Yes! Do it!!!

I had to wait a year to get an MRI on my knee when I lived in Canada. I went to the US and got it two weeks later instead.

@adellis24

26 күн бұрын

I got dicked around for nearly a decade because they didn't want to schedule an MRI, when they did it was a 15 month wait.

@BlazeGuitarLessons

26 күн бұрын

@@adellis24 it's like taking all the efficiency of the DMV and applying it to medicine lol plus, the US has universal healthcare for veterans and it's a disaster there too

I lived in Karlskrona (Sweden) in a neighbourhood with mostly people from a Middle Eastern background. Our neighbourhood was miles away from the city. Just a bunch of high rise apartment buildings in the middle of nowhere. There was a physical disconnect that didn’t help integration. And also a cultural barrier from the Swedish side. Swedes are very introverted, which doesn’t help if you let in a large population who needs to be integrated. Not to mention the strict labour laws, which make it difficult to fire people. I’ve met highly educated immigrants who couldn’t find work due these barriers and were instead cruising for years on end on the “free” education system to keep them busy. Sweden would have been better off by getting different types of immigrants. They got a lot of asylum seekers, who are often put in refugee centres where they aren’t allowed to work and stay in that situation for years. It’s insane. Let people work and reduce benefits for newcomers to get rid of the moochers

Amber is a much needed breath of fresh air on immigration at Reason. The desire to be free is innate. The discipline to allow one's neighbor to be free is not. It must be tought. Hence culture matters, and libertarians who neglect that fact will never achieve sustainable liberty. The United States is an exceptional outlier in both the history and present of the world. If we want it to stay there, we can't welcome anyone and everyone who wants to become a voter here. If we do, our electorate will revert to the mean. This isn't an argument for no immigration. It's an argument for managing the rate and composition of immigration to ensure assimilation to the political philosophy of "negative" liberty. We've already slipped a great deal due to generations of miseducation of native children, but a look at public policy elsewhere shows it can get much worse still.

@robertortiz-wilson1588

29 күн бұрын

Absolutely correct.

I forget if it was Norway or Sweeden, but one of those countries actually has a class that they make certain immigrant men take, where they teach them about Scandanavian culture and they teach them why sexism is wrong and why they need to respect women. Can you imagine? I think I saw it in a Vice documentary.

@screwstatists7324

Ай бұрын

Because then they won't turn around and form rape gangs with zero concequences

@et34t34fdf

Ай бұрын

So what? Some class don't make people change lifehold beliefs.

@Melissa0774

Ай бұрын

@@et34t34fdf Yeah I know. I just think it's crazy that they actually do something like that and that they actually can do something like that. They sure as hell couldn't have classes like that in the U.S.

@kevinoconnor4582

17 күн бұрын

Something like that is definitively needed in Canada. I've spoken to plenty of immigrants that think so differently then us. They think they deserve free housing. That they deserve free private schools to protect their culture. Meanwhile the country they are from is being destroyed because of their culture.

@Krookarn

12 күн бұрын

No we dont but they want its been suggested to start those classes in Swedish culture . Absurd yes. Let’s face it. 20% of Swedish population not Swedish that just arrived. How many are 2nd generation who still not identify as Swedish. I have 2 friends where their grandparents came from former Yugoslavia and they identify as Bosnian or Croatian.

Robby makes the most rookie mistake in data analysis here when he uses data from US immigrants to determine pathology of European immigrants. "There are no abstract people" - Thomas Sowell. These are not similar groups of people coming into similar countries, in fact 'immigrants' are not a standardized group at all.

"a lot of people coming from Mexico coming over our southern border are fleeing socialist dystopias that they despise".....you mean the socialist dystopias that they helped put in place, and were cheering for 10 years ago? And now they're unhappy because the socialist paradise ended up being a dystopia, like we all said it would when they first proposed it. If they didn't understand that originally, would they understand it now, or would they try to bring their ideas of a socialist paradise with them to America?

@lordbarham1

22 күн бұрын

Most of them are fleeing rightwing dictatorships and gangland violence, thanks to America dumping its Hispanic gangsters on Central America. I might add that the problems in Venezuela likely would never have got as bad as they became if America had left them alone. Constant interference caused a marxist government to dig in its heels. Something similar happened in Nicaragua; although the situation isn't as bad there as it is in Venezuela. All of Latin America has suffered grievously from decades of misguided and selfish America policies: America sees Central and South America as its backyard, and has willingly trampled on the peoples who live there in order to prop up and support American business interests down there. These two twits are obviously too young to remember the 70s and 80s horror show down there in countries like El Salvador and Guatemala, whereby far right, but pro-American governments committed atrocities against their own people that would be unthinkable in our era (though Putin seems happy to engage in that sort of behaviour, as does Netanyahu and those evil West Bank Settler Nazis in his government). The horror show really only began ending when Bill Clinton was elected President and decided enough was enough.

When people debate the American vs. Canadian healthcare system, it makes me think of that South Park episode where they had to vote for either the douche or the turd sandwich.

@jimlovesgina

Ай бұрын

America's health care would be fine if not for all the government interference. Still, I would rather be sick in the US than anywhere else.

White South African here - As brutal as apartheid was, it was implemented to protect my people and culture. The Swedes have now imported a giant group of people they will have the same conflict with in the near future. Europeans are now learning the hard way that Africa does not share its values.

@testingoyay4648

Ай бұрын

Not sure I understand your statements, they were protecting your people and culture in another mans land? to flip it around in a weird way, isn't that what the swede imports are doing too?

@zephhill5092

Ай бұрын

The people you brutalized would also like their people and culture protected. Institutional racism can just as easily be used to subjugate you. Just because your group benefited, does not mean you were “protected”. You could say the same thing about Jim Crow or slave era America, and be just as racist and wrong. No gods, no masters.

@usofliberty

Ай бұрын

@@testingoyay4648 18 year olds have kids, if your born somewhere as a legal citizen it's your land. You may not be aware but when people want land sometimes they take it, after that happens it is no longer the land of the person who could not hold onto it. Reality sucks for the weak and the stupid.

@news26boom

Ай бұрын

@@testingoyay4648 Black nationalists use the line of my people being "colonialists", but we got here at the same time, 400 years ago. Irrespective, our interests will never align. A homogenous population doesn't have this problem. The Swedes had that, but they threw it away. The Somali and Middle Eastern voting bloc will now play a role in Sweden's politics and future; they will not integrate and they will turn Swedish society into one akin to South Africa's.

@augustgreig9420

Ай бұрын

​@@news26boom They are constantly rewriting history now, slapping the "oppressor/oppressed," dichotomy onto everything. They have thrown out all nuance of what actually took place around the world in the 17th Century. Here in the US, we are taught that our settlers came here and immediately began genociding indigenous people and stealing their land. In reality, most tribes were nomadic and there were some we got along with more than others, and we would form alliances with these tribes against other tribes, and they would return the favor eventually by siding with us against the British. And we did not genocide these people and steal their land. 90% of their population was wiped out by diseases like small pox, which while unfortunate, was not something we intentionally did. This is so undeniable that they have to make up these stories about settlers intentionally infecting blankets with pox and then trading or giving those to Indians, something that obviously never happened, as germ theory did not exist in any form yet, we had no idea how these diseases were spread, and we often did not directly witness these groups and tribes getting wiped out. Again, they were nomadic, and would come in town to trade on their way back west, where they would then become symptomatic and die. And we didn't steal their land, either because they didn't have any land, they were just roaming around in tents and at most had hunting ground, or they would just gladly sell us the land and move on, and sometimes they would swindle us, selling us land they don't own or disputed territory, and taking whatever we paid them and going west. This too has been manipulated to tell a story where we took advantage of them by various crazy means, from them not having a concept of property, to us just giving them shiny beads and worthless baubles for huge swathes of property, playing their religious/spiritual tendencies by giving them fake spiritual talismans and artifacts, or pretending to connect with them spiritually to get them to hand it over, making treaties with them for peace and military alliance against other tribes in exchange for access to resources rich farm land and agriculture, only to later break the treaty and backstab them and keep the land for ourselves, and the list goes on. In reality, we came here and developed this country from a war torn scattering of nations skirmishing and enslaving one another, to producing vast resources, carving safe cities out of hostile nature, driving off or eradicating the more dangerous and hawkish tribes and slavers, developing agriculture and farm land, breeding livestock and horses, creating central cities and trading ports from the ocean to all along our rivers, creating an export industry right away. I mean, we just did so much. This is why settlers believed in manifest destiny, because it seemed we were not only blessed by God, but it was our ultimate fate to carry on westward until we hit the other coast, and building the nation as we went. We created the most beautiful nation in the world, and unlike any other conquerors in history, we allowed the tribes to maintain their sovereignty and gave them huge swathes of land on the Great plains so they could carry on their nomadic ways within their own borders if they wanted, or they could build cities like we did and trade with us. No conquering civilization has ever been so generous. I'm guessing you perceive that South Africa's history has also been dirtied by hindsight and outright lies. I understand how apartheid protected you, the United States was in it's Golden Age in the 1950's into the early 1960's. But as soon as we overturned Jim Crowe, created the Civil Rights Act, created the modern welfare system, and changed our immigration laws completely so that we would begin taking in people from Central and South America instead of just Europe, it was a disaster felt immediately, but the shockwaves are still reverberating and are even worse than the initial blast. The country has been totally destroyed, and soon we will be a minority here, and not even to the blacks, but to the Hispanics and Chinese and Indians (dot not feather), with various Arabs and Africans not far behind. I do not see a single white person when I go to the store or the bank anymore, and if I do it's an older woman working as a manager at either the grocery store, the drug store, the gas station, or the bank. 3/4 gas stations have been bought by Indians. Churches are closing and Mosques are opening. The only church left out of about 20 that used to be right around my neighborhood is one that is all Hispanic, one that is all Vietnamese, and one that is all black. I don't see white men anywhere, sometimes homeless and begging for !oney, that's about it. And all of these illegal immigrants are suppose to be refugees, only there's no war in Venezuela or El Salvador or Guatemala or Columbia, so now they claim they are "economic migrants" or "economic refugees," and leftists are comfortable calling them this. But they are not poor. Every time I go through the customer service line at the grocery store, there's 6 people from 6 different countries all sending money back home via Western Union, always hundreds if not thousands of dollars. It's disgusting. Watched a guy from Afghanistan send $5,000 in cash to someone. They come straight here and buy a house and a car, they take their wife/gf and their kids and just lie about everyone name and relationship, and he will "rent" his house out to her and she'll get welfare to subsidize her rent, she'll get food stamps for her and the kids, and then cash on top of that for utility bills and stuff like that. Meanwhile, she's just living with her bf who has a ton of !money, both of them do actually, but the government doesn't know that. All they have to do is cross the border without papers then claim to be from anywhere and pretend they are married or whatever. Then they get to double dip in the system.

Too many people think it’s about “the government” letting people into “America”; it’s the government letting people come onto people’s property. Individual rights, not some “plurality” that is able to seamlessly integrate so many people who don’t like the present occupants.

@screwstatists7324

Ай бұрын

The first thing I'll do is buy up the power, water, roads, and police, and ue those to shut down all competition. Then, I'll form my own constitutional monarchy and purchase or demand easements for border enforcement. Civil rights and wellfare are restricted to my own people. Citizenship requires an apartment and a job, but I'll be enforcing immigration that way, too. I'll use public goods and social aid to justify demands for a withholding tax on income capped at 9.99%. Machiavelli would be proud

Do not come to Canada. Min wage here cannot even pay for a studio apartment like everywhere in the US. Life here is not that different. Average house price is $900k. Most will never be able to afford a house, or even a condo for that matter. This just scratches the surface of everything that is so wrong with this country.

4:00 Yes, it's different in Europe. Mexico is, in a roundabout way, the West. Hell they're Catholics. As are most of the other peoples coming in from South and Central America. The US is also historically a multi-ethnic country. Somalia is not the West and Scandinavia's governance is built on an ethnic identity. That was a strange "I don't know". I feel like this is common sense, and relating it to the US situation is weird. Mexicans coming to the US is akin to Polish peoples moving to Britain. These are compatible peoples with similar enough values.

@screwstatists7324

Ай бұрын

Slippery cope

@robertortiz-wilson1588

29 күн бұрын

Perhaps.

0:58 - The Per Capita GDP of Canada is lower than Mississippi, the lowest per capital gdp state in the USA. Let that one sink in. On average the people of Canada are poorer than the poorest people in the USA.

I’m in Michingan and the housing market here over the last 7-8 years is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Homes that were bought for $130K in 2015 are now being sold for $590k. I’m talking about tiny, disgusting, poorly built 950 square foot shit boxes in quite mediocre neighborhoods. Then you’ve got Better, average sized homes in nicer neighborhoods that were $300K+ 10 years ago selling for $750k+ now. Wild times.

@StellaMaris-lv2uq

5 күн бұрын

A recession as bad it can be, provides good buying opportunities in the markets if you’re careful and it can also create volatility giving great short time buy and sell opportunities too. This is not financial advise but get buying, cash isn’t king at all in this time!

@maryHenokNft

5 күн бұрын

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5 күн бұрын

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@maryHenokNft

5 күн бұрын

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@TheresaAnderson-kf5xw

5 күн бұрын

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"Supposedly Progressive." Remember, in Canada, as in the United States, "Progressive" is short for (say it with me now) "Progressive Socialist". They are not supposedly that, they are exactly that, as are we these days. And that's the point. We're not talking about "progress" as in the connotative version that really means, "improvement", we're talking about progress toward the full implementation of an ideology that is responsible for the greatest amounts of misery and death in all of human history.

jesus, I think this is my new favorite show on youtube. Good chemistry, soild discourse fundamentals, and an obvious upfront offering of grace for intention in the dialog with no "gotchas" to be seen. Carry on you two, it is definitely working.

The idea of Canadian healthcare is it's first come first serve. In America, the value of a person's life is measured by money, so if you were born into a family with US$100 million inheritance, your uncle doesn't die while some other person's does even if the other person's was in the line far before the rich person's uncle. When it's first come first serve without any line skips, you get lines rather than people completely untreated forever. That's just what happens when medical professionals are not large in number enough to service the demand of every sick person in a nation.

Amber is absolutely correct. A country is not just an economic unit. Yet that’s what most Libertarians seem to treat it as.

Nice to see Robby in a discussion with someone other than Bri.

What a weak and silly man.

This guy is ridiculous 😡

So why aren't these two on their OWN show together and not sharing time with neo-Lib hacks on Rising? They're GREAT!

Amber is right for the most part here

These are really good discussion/analysis by two very reasonable and rational individuals who make good points. This informative rationalism is typical of ReasonTV and why I consistently consume it. Seeing these two reminds me that I need to more often test my media bubble by listening to the other media they inhabit with less like minded individuals ...sigh ...always a painful exercise of exploring irrationality (in my opinion), that though important, requires constant self reminders. That bias away from listening to (percieved) irrationality is ike gravity that must be fought, since those perspectives must be understood/considered. Of course those I think irrational think the same in reverse.

Yes there's fundamental disagreement about American values at home, but that's a really stupid reason to welcome in more of the people who are on the openly hostile side of that.

I like the feel and setup of the show, this is well done.

I don’t expect any man that sits like this to have any grasp of how the real world is. Never expect him defending his life and of others from a violent migrant either.

Yes, as a Canadian, I can tell you that our Health system suck. In my case, it's all free because I can't never get a doctor. No-doctor, no-cost. :(

I do generally like a lot of what Robbie soave has to say, but on this particular case, Amber Duke was the one on point.

Bizzaro to see Robby taking the role of Bri.

Like Mr. Wonderful said.”Canada has very bad management”

Love these two hosts. So nice that Brianna is not here.

damn good conversations

Great discussion!

Can Robbie and Amber have a morning news show on Reason? Please?! It's so nice to see this!

I need to know who is in charge of decorating this space

I disagree with libertarians in a lot of issues but come to reason ofter for good faith discussions. Great video.

Good quality sound in this video -and not a huge microphone in sight!

I worked with Canadians around thirty years ago. At the time they were complaining how people were gaming health care through overuse for trivial things. They did not seem that thrilled with the way it worked.

Really good conversation, great job, Reason! As stated, fleeing persecution and danger is a way to get asylum. However, too many Americans feel unsafe in their neighborhoods, too. I feel badly for people living in turmoil, but that's been constant in human tribes since prehistorical times. I'd like our country to spend much more money and resources to help improve the lives of "natives" (and naturalized citizens) than it does in other countries where the governments just take the aide money and spend it however they wany while their people are struggling in untenable ways. Fix America first. I think the Monroe Doctrine fits this situation - stay the F out of other people's lives until we've made real strides in fixing life within our nation's borders. That requires keeping unvetted migrants out. Full stop.

Freaky Freeland almost got the Canada credit card maxed out, but she restored Canada’s triple A rating so that she can just go take out more credit. Well we all know budget balances itself🤦‍♀️. We want their greasy hands out of the taxpayer’s pockets and then we can afford to support ourselves because we don’t want crumbs from govt. 4 years now without a family doctor with serious medical issues and still on an urgent care family doctor list for when one becomes available within my area.

Yes. Everyone should listen to Bill Maher 😅😅😅

Both major parties want to do nothing about the actual *legal* migrants that are following the proper protocol. We have a very long backlog of processing visas. They don't even have to increase funding for something like this, they could use existing resources like even the national guard to work on vetting and processing migrants who wish to work here. Conservatives will always talk about how they want legal immigration, not illegal immigration. But what about the legal migrants? What can we do to make the process easier there? They don't even know.

Hopefully Buenos Aires and the rest of Argentina will be true paradise in 5 years after Milei’s policies!

Nice to see a civil debate with different opinions, you don’t see a lot of that

To the best of my knowledge, there's no dramatic increase in crime in Canada that corresponds to our high immigration rate. However, it's fair to say that a significant portion of our very serious housing and health care issues are heavily impacted by immigration.

@adellis24

26 күн бұрын

Because you don't realize they aren't reporting them properly, they are treating violent crimes as misdamenors and the power afforded to cops to actually Serve & Protect has been neutered by the various leftard Mayors who don't support the police. Instead of properly funding Police Departments they are having their budgets slashed while taxes rise & politicians give themselves pay bumps.

100% it is imm igraTioN in sweden. They are the perfect example for a clear view as they were a SAFE country with low crime rate, that then changed suddenly at that same time! The gangs are clearly with NO confusion and no denying, the imm's and the Sa's are also clearly raised and imm"s. There is cultural differences that do not always blend with other cultures and people do not adjust to the country they are in but rather bring what is considered illegal with them and expect for everyone else to adjust to them. The gangs, violence and criminal activity, imo is the attitude that in these countries, we are soft and they can do what they want! That attitude that they would be jailed for life in their country for stealing but are "allowed" to do it in these soft countries is partly the soft countries fault for being soft on crime!

Canada does not have a single payer system. Both provincial and federal governments fund the system.

Libertarian Gia Derza makes some good points

Robbie ,How would you like somebody staying at your house to start changing things( color of your house, food, car, carpet ,etc.) to their liking using your money until they get on their feet?? You mean to tell me that would not bother you?

I'd say Canada DID interfere less, but that's changing rapidly. I see a backlash to the right in their future as well.

Move to Venuzuala if you want anti working class Socialism.

Well-off Americans will forget about moving to Canada as soon as they see how high taxes are on the well-off. Poor people who don't pay taxes love it here, but somebody has to support them. That will be you, rich American liberals, if you move her..

American has the misconception that Canadian have to wait forever to see a doctor is no true, people are treated depend on they condition of urgency, if you have cancer will be on top of the list them someone need a knee operation, obviously cancer will displace knee operation, unlike the American system you need to have insurance ,credit card, etc , In Canada everyone regardless of they status will received medical care , and don’t have to pay a penny, but over the years has declined considerably for the bad decisions made by our government , for once allowing 1 million people coming into the country by passing the need for houses,doctors, nurses, instead allowing international student to get free food from the food banks intended for the very poor on welfare, in Toronto the asylum seekers are homeless people live in tents , no difference then to invite friends to your house but they have to sleep in the backyard

Bill is great...common sense

Nothing you said makes Canada look bad as it is far worse in us, using the same example, is better to have healthy care than none at all or go bankrupt in one. Waiting a day is no problem.

Robby is missing the fact that Sweden is a small country and went from very low crime to much higher. The US has a comparably massive population and already has high crime, so of course immigrants will be less impactful either way.

Soave got owned.

Protect your values!

Immigrants in Europe *are* very different from in the US right now, both because they come from different countries, have migrated for different reasons, and because there have been sooo many of them in only a couple years relative to the native populations. Lack of integration not only threatens to kill the native culture, but brings all the problems of the source culture to the destination country. And that's before we get into things like the unreliability of US immigrations stats given how many illegals there are.

I liked Bill Maher when I first discovered him. but then he seemed to go hard left. Now, however, he's at least recognizing some of the problems with leftist positions. I'd hate to see him jump to the extreme opposite position, but I don't think he'll do that. He'll just become a moderate liberal with good takes on some issues. I'm so tired of people bringing out things like universal health care that the US doesn't have, as if it's a GOOD thing! They want to bring the US down to the same level as they rest of the liberal democratic nations, instead of actually trying to fix our problems. Another example would be things like family leave and such. It sounds very nice, but nobody ever talks about the trade-offs that make it possible. As for the immigration issue, there are several ways of looking at it. Robby's right in that immigration law is ridiculous and difficult. How much investigation do you need when checking on a potential immigrant? Especially if they're coming from some place like Cuba or China? How much are you going to trust Cuban or Chinese information on a person? And if it's about how much you know about people, there's a lot we don't know about our own neighbors, much less American-born citizens in other parts of the US. But I wouldn't want an intensive government program gathering random data about people's lives on the off-chance that they might be criminal or treasonous. People need to exhibit some kind of suspicious or harmful behavior to cause LEOs or other officials to worry about them, and that applies as much to immigrants as it does natural-born citizens. :-/

Liking this new series, but the set seems kinda odd. No desk? OK, but still, they just look uncomfortable in this pseudo-lounge set. Camera angle seems low. Check Club Random's set.

@MaeghanRose-84

Ай бұрын

I am just trying to figure out what the hell is the black and gold thing behind Robbie.

@RcCapozzi

Ай бұрын

@@MaeghanRose-84 Hmm, maybe big chess pieces? And, oh, there's a skull on the bookcase on Robbie's left.

I think that given our mixed economy that the libertarian stance should be pro-immigration and charge for immigration with as much as the market will bear. Right now, open borders is pro-employer and anti-native. The folks already here have created a mostly civil, functioning society with a certain amount of public property. Rather than giving this away to the benefit of some segments of the population, it should be sold. Other countries don't allow us to freely own property in their nations. It is clear that folks living elsewhere want to live here and benefit from living here. They should pay for that. There is nothing that says that given a mixed economy that the downsides should all be allotted to previous residents and the benefits should go to immigrants and the beneficiaries of additional immigrant labor.

Comments: our health care system is in crisis, but it is not because universal health care is a bad idea. We have an aging population, a low birth rate and we have just come through a global pandemic that resulted in an almost complete shutdown of the entire economy for almost two years. We are a small country in terms of population and we are what is described as a mid-level power. To prevent a massive depression as a result of the shutdown, huge amounts of money were spent propping up businesses so they could keep their workforces without laying them all off. WE are not the only country that did this but we have a much smaller economy than the United States with the result that we feel these effects more acutely. We are recovering, and so far, unemployment rates have remained low, despite raises in interest rates to c combat the inflation that pumping all that money into the economy caused. WE also have our inflation rates down significantly. Nothing happens in a vacuum and everything depends upon everything else. WE try to fix one problem and create another. This is how things work and its a massively complex system we are trying to control. WE have an aging population and a declining birthrate, and the aging population happens to be the baby boom generations who now have greater and more complex health needs. The Baby Boom was called the baby boom for a damn good reason: It formed a noticeable bump in the birth rate following the second world war, and it lasted for at least 20 years, from 1945 to 1965 (so it also includes Generation X who are now hitting retirement age). To fix this problem, we bumped up the immigration rate. Now we have a housing shortage which exacerbates the affordability crisis. The affordability crisis was caused by 40 years of new-liberalism in which there was a free-for-all regarding investing. Housing and property became something to invest in. Successful investing means banking on the the price of housing and land to go up, so the investor makes money. You lot are probably too young to remember that 80s mantra, "Greed is good!" when selfishness was elevated to our civilisation's highest virtue (something no other human society that I am aware has ever done before). Well, after forty years of trickle-down (or, as Reagun's vice president, George Bush senior called it, "Voodoo Economics"), huge swaths of us can no longer afford to live in our own countries or put a roof over our heads. So, high immigration to infuse our society with younger, productive people has turned the affordability crisis into a housing shortage. We fix one problem, and generate another. Canada might have it faults and its flaws and its problems, but at least we aren't on the verge of an all-out civil war the way Americans are these days. The crisis in our health care will be solved, and a year or two from now, we likely will only remember it as just another thing that happened, like the pandemic. Blaming immigrants for all your problems is counter-productive and unfair: the overwhelming majority of immigrants arrive grateful for the new opportunities they have and usually tend to become more patriotic than those who were born in their country of residence. A handful of bad apples should not be allowed to spoil the barrel. Everyone in the Americas, including the Native Indians who were here first, originally came from somewhere else. Thus, we are all descended from immigrants.

Here, i think i can square the immigration circle - and it all boils down to incentives. When you incentivize hard work and achievements as part of your immigration system, every one benefits - no doubt about it. This works for both skilled and unskilled labor - everybody wins here. However, the current migrant crisis in the US and Europe isn't that at all. The EU and the US, and the various states within these organizations offer pretty sweet welfare benefits to asylum seekers and in Europe also a very generous welfare system, with fairly lax standards on what an asylum seeker actually is - this incentivizes people to forgo the harder path of working and providing products and services, to instead leach of off the government welfare - attracting a different crowd entirely. So the problem boils down to welfare systems, that bring people who claim they are fleeing from war, to only target the richest countries, which requires the government to install strict border controls. Having so many people living on said welfare system makes it so that crime becomes rampant in these communities due to either weird work laws and behavior patterns of migrants that dont need to engage with the population to obtain a standard of living.

Just a note about Sweden: I found the best food available there is from the shawarma kiosks.

@chrismiller5198

Ай бұрын

The positive side of immigration is such entrepreneurs adding their skills to a society.

@danielstennert1263

Ай бұрын

There's an Afghani immigrant in Sweden who worked as a police officer and who used to do lectures on immigration-related matters. One of the things he'd like to ask all the Karen-haired public sector staffers was "Can you name any benefits from multi-culturalism? And, you're not allowed to say food." It's one of those weird things people reach for when they have no concept of what multi-culturalism actually means. Not to mention a pretty poor show of things when, as isn't seldom the case, that's the only thing you can come up with - the fact that the guy in your Pizza-shop has a slightly darker complexion and calls you 'Chefen' every time you come in to pick up your order.

How does Robby cross his legs like that?

Robby the lumper is ignoring all Amber’s facts

The land of Aba and Preach is failing because of Trudeau.

What would you do if a bunch of trucks came into your neighbourhood and blocked all the roads and honked their horns for 3 weeks straight. While they're at it they blocked the ambassador bridge which is a main trading route used between the US and Canada. Just sayen.

@bogeybichon7000

Ай бұрын

You should enforce pre-existing laws, you don't seize their assets WITHOUT due process. The ambassador bridge was opened up prior to the Emergency Act being enacted. Furthermore, you don't seize the assets and freeze bank accounts of people who merely donated to protestors who were protesting constitutionally invalid mandates. If the government oversteps its authority, you can not make protesting that unconstitutional act illegal.

3:35 oh boy, talk about ignorant. Look Rob, huge swathes of Canadas’ economy is *heavily* regulated. The dairy cartel, sorry “supply management”, alone would make most Americans go WTF? You want to run a dairy farm, you have to buy a quota and anything you produce *beyond* that quota, you have to destroy.

10:00 okay, I need to revise my opinion. Robby is *actually* stupid, not misinformed. Bad ideas require a certain critical mass to really take hold, and keeping people who hold those bad ideas *out* of your country reduces the chance those ideas take hold. Yes, you can’t easily do much against home grown idiots but you *can* keep them from getting reinforcements!

Getting real sick of this conservative co-host.

Maybe Bill Maher is a conservative This is what moderate conservatives were saying 20 years ago but liberals called us stupid and racist.

I find it funny how people cherry pick these instances of refugees committing crime in Europe. It seems the higher crime rates associated with immigration are more associated with a culture clash than about the ethics of immigration itself. Amber argues CATO fails to distinguish between immigration status in their studies. While this is true, it poisons the well with respect to immigration policy. If higher crime rates in the Americas are ONLY associated with illegal immigrants, and likewise poverty, then all the more reason to liberate immigration policy. Give these people a chance where they're not forced to assimilate in our most impoverished communities. After all, POVERTY is the strongest variable associated with crime, not immigration. Hence why CATO's research doesn't feel the need to distinguish between immigrant status. In other words, is it the fact they're immigrants that contributes to the propensity to commit crime or economic status?

4:02 Look at this lying smoke.

Which immigrants are your referring to when you talk about the crime rate? Immigrants who came though the legal channels and got work visas, of which many have high paying jobs in the tech/health care/education sector (just take a look at whose working in Silicon Valley) or are you talking about those who did not obtain a visa before their arrival? I don't think it's helpful lumping these two disparate populations together when reporting on crime statistics.

She was right, he totally straw manned her point on immigrants who hate the country. Bad form Robby.

@LordLewsTheDragon

22 күн бұрын

He straw manned it twice actually. It's not South American Catholic migrants chanting "death to America"

Our immigration system is an integration system so that could be why legal inmigrants going through the system set up to integrate them into our culture have similar crime rates as natural citizens, couldn't it? Edit: Typos

Most of those entering are coming here illegally. I would ask how many illegals the dude speaking is taking into his home. If its zero, he needs to shutup.

Lies and anything

Hey. I didn’t get the point of the video. Is it bad that Canada spend so much money taking care of its citizens? If you ask me, no. I’m sure they pay a high tax. See no problem with it. Sweden, 1,5 million immigrants in 10 years. Roughly 20% of the population. But what about the million that came from mid 90s. I think the number is higher. And the Swedish numbers are mainly from boomers, that’s born 40s or 50s. Give it 15 years more. The immigrants coming now are in birth giving age. So in one generation ethnic Swede is very small %. That should has happened over a 80 year period. My dad was young boy. Finish children came a lot since they lost parents in finish war and war with Germany. But only native Swedes in his class. Til now. My child has no native Swedes in her class. Not some schools have no Swedes at all. Some schools the teachers don’t even speak basic Swedish. I see a rising problem for Sweden and the region.

maher is fine, but these commentators add no value whatsoever.

Robbie is too cucked on the immigration topic. Frankly we need an immigration moratorium for at least 20 years. Take these 20 years to start cultivating the existing immigrants here to be fruitful and patriotic Americans, and if it successful in 20 years we can slowly allow the immigration numbers to go back to a reasonable number (under 50k per year preferably). And I say all of this as an actual immigrant who has seen how well the US handles integration

I estimate the gentleman projecting an image of kindness. Yet you notice that when he explains the benefits of further immigration he refers to the potential of immigrants in our country as “cause we need to build houses and we need to grow our labor force..” He does not see them as future entrepreneurs or ever having a seat where he’s sitting. This is the true enemy of mankind. Smug con artists. I’d like to see this man’s true beliefs in his browser history

@alastairthegreat2887

Ай бұрын

Except for the part right before that where he says so they can start businesses. Or do you just not realize that's what entrepreneurs do?

@virtuesantos7900

Ай бұрын

@@alastairthegreat2887 I missed that. Thank you for correcting me. I do appreciate that they’re conversing civilly. The conversation is important. What do you believe is best for our country in regards to immigration?

Those are some garbage arguments Robby.

As far as Canada is concerned, give me 3 times cheaper medicines, any day of the week. US can keep their "super-awesome" health care.

Crappy far right site.

Bill usually does some passable research for these parts but he failed badly here. Canada and US use different methods to track unemployment so you can’t compare them. The Air quality was only bad due to the wild fires from last year. The US spends almost 20% of its GDP on health care with no universal coverage compared to Canadas 13.5%. Canadians do have a lower rate of access to primary healthcare providers but in Canada it about 86% do have access and the US is 87%. However in Canada no one goes bankrupt from medical costs. In the US around 100,000,000 people have medical debt and more of those people have insurance than don’t yet still have debt. Housing is very expensive in Canada but it has been a problem for 20 plus years it isn’t a new problem simply because of the new immigration policies brought in partially to help fix our medical provider problems mentioned before. Bill needed to do better here but hey, it helped your talking point so why bother telling people the truth?

How do you expect us to listen to you when you just lie about immigrants

Very little of Bill buzz is true

Japan beats Canada by miiiles in Debt to GDP metrics. Please get your facts right, yeeez.

@Furluge

Ай бұрын

If you look at the video it explains it. The Bill Maher clip is showing the exact quote and their source. They're talking about household debt as a share of GDP. "The country has the highest household debt as a share of [GDP] in the G7 - and 75% of it is from mortgages." - Business Insider. So it looks like they're talking about per household debt, not government debt. Also keep in mind the population of Canada is 38.93 million vs 125.1 million in Japan. Business insider is referencing an article form the BBC, who is citing data from the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. They're not talking about how much the Canadian government owes. They're talking about how the the households in Canada owe more in debt now than the country's GDP.

Did you actually check to see if any of Bill s comparing apples with oranges was actually true