Hey Simon, great video. I work at a secondhand golf warehouse here in the States, and this is actually a topic I was planning on going over in one of my videos. Very well done, brother.

Great news for you and the channel and us the the viewers Andy. Keep making top notch vlogs. This is always the the first channel I got to when watching YOU TUBE.

Brothers! Just found a Ping G25 10.5 from a resell website. Looked as if it was never used. Took it to the driving range at with a 80% swing I was crushing the ball over the back net! Per the performance vs price I paid for this classic gem , you simply can't beat it.

Nicely done, I've just retired my SIM2 Max and gone back to my GBB Epic 2017 - because it goes further... maybe it always did...sounds good too

I'm using the m5 at the moment, love it. Might get one of the forgiving ones mentioned here for when driver does not behave.

Good effort. The graphics and flyovers are captivating viewing whilst your research and findings refreshing to hear :-D.

Great video currently using the speedzone and from what I've seem there's no real need to break the bank for an upgrade

My current gamer is a TSR2 9° but at times, when things are out of whack, I go back to my 913D2 9.5°. Still love that driver and it doesn't give up much to the TSR.

Picked up a sim2 new at my local GolfMart for $150. Love it

Gotta say I completely agree with you about the Callaway XR16 pro I had one of them and like most of us got rid of it to try the newest "longest, most forgiving driver" that was all the hype at the moment. I Instantly regretted that decision after a few rounds, I mean sure I got what a few more yards but at the cost of how many fairways I hit during each round with my XR16 pro I'd hit around 75% of fairways compared to 45% with the new driver I couldn't even tell you what model it was because of how stupid I felt for giving up a perfectly good driver in fact my favorite most forgiving driver of all time. Now in 2024 I know better, I'd take forgiveness over a few extra yards any day of the week.

My gamer is a G430 LST, but sometimes I get nostalgic and take out older clubs. I played an original SIM Max yesterday, along with some copper beryllium Ping Zing irons from the mid 90s. The SIM driver is still good, but the G430 is definitely better and more forgiving. I took an old Callaway Warbird out and hit about the best drive I could with it. It didn't even come close to the modern drivers. The fact that Hogan, Arnie, and Jack did what they did with those old drivers is nothing short of amazing. I don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything when I play with older irons, but I definitely feel like I am when I play older drivers.

Right in the middle here gaming the M4. Great all around and siper forgiving off of heel strikes where i seem to hit it the most 😅

I have an Epic Flash driver and love it. It is relatively cheap, has the jailbreak tech, and adjustable weight.

I’m still rocking the adjustable M2, works for me.

This also applies to fairway woods. I've been through several 3 & 5 woods since 2009, the latest being the Ping G425's. 6 months ago I went back to my 2009 Taylmade Burners 3 & 5 woods and I'm finding them longer and straighter. My 2 cents.

This so gold!! Im hcp 18, i bet these are good enough for me!! You can put the rest of money to other clubs

Excellent video Simon. 👍👍

I use the Paradym driver and I love it, I had the TaylorMade stealth and got rid of it after a month! switched to the Paradym and got an avg 40 yards more on my drives!

Great video Andy food for thought

My driver is a Ping G400 Max. Have had it for two years. It is a terrific club. Bought used for $150.

Great video, thank you. Where would the Callaway GBB 816 Alpha Double Black Diamond (it should win just for most letters in the name) rank on your list?

ya i got the speedzone new a few months ago for cheap. great driver I have the heavier med shaft

I have 2 9.5 2016 M2’s and 1 10.5 M2. Playing the 9.5 with the new Graphite Design VF shaft.

Second hand clubs are always worth looking at including iron sets. but then occasionally manufacturers disrupt the market like PXG offering their Gen 5 Drivers recently for £199 and currently offering discounts on their fairway woods and hybrids so worth keeping an eye out for these deals before buying 2nd hand

I currently game the cobra speed zone and I love it. I might upgrade to the LTDX model as the price is fantastic on eBay

@drewmcgary2872

Ай бұрын

I'm using the f9 and still I've had no desire to switch.

Love the video, Could you please make one for Fairway woods? Ive been looking to replace my 20+ year old 3/5 wood with 5/7. Cheers! Thanks for all your work!

@SASGolf

5 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! Did one recently, tour pros still using old fairways. Probably 4th video down in recently posted 🙌

@jeromeyjohnson7287

5 ай бұрын

@@SASGolf Thank you. Cannot believe i missed that one haha.

Great video 👏

10:30 This is the exact driver I have in my bag, and I still love the fact that I can't ruin it by skying one like a total noob. 😂

Got the M5 for Christmas and I love it

I started using an M5 and it's been fantastic

I used a set of Callaway Mavrik rentals last year and literally mashed it. So easy to hit. Driver is $125 on Callaway used.

I agree with you this time. Yay Cobra!

I’m still gaming my R9 superdeep, I still hit it well but it’s almost 15 years old now, am I losing out on distance? I feel like it’s old enough now that I am leaving yards on the table

Had my m2 for years. It’s awesome. There are two year models though, the first one was so much better than the second. (I have both and still play the previous years) 10/10 recommend

I play two different ping G5s from what 2005? They are awesome clubs really well made sound great and still fly long, no new driver for $400 for me

I have used the Titliest 910D3 driver for well over 10 plus years. I could and still can bomb it. This was the first year i bought a newer type driver and settled on the Sim2 by Taylor Made.

@rambiet-9043

5 ай бұрын

I’ve been using my 913D3 for at least 8 years at this point. Absolutely love it and don’t plan on upgrading until there’s a dramatic gap in technology. My wallet is also very happy I love it as much as I do.

I got an almost new 2021 m4 10.5 with a Ventus red stiff shaft for $150 cad. Can’t beat that with $900 drivers on the market.

I had a speedzone xtreme for a while until a friend broke it (definitely my fault in trusting him). Loved the driver and honestly want to get one again. it just felt so good to hit

I had the xr-16 for the longest time in a 65-g stiff shaft that I kept fighting, but it let me hit my longest drive at 270. I knew if I got a lighter shaft it would probably help. Really sad it got stolen along with my bag right before Christmas, that driver was beautiful.

@thattrillYT

5 ай бұрын

How did your clubs get stolen!?

@Jakezillagfw

5 ай бұрын

​@@thattrillYTSomeone steals it.....

@thattrillYT

5 ай бұрын

@@Jakezillagfw I asked how they were stolen, not ‘if’ they were.

For everyone out there who would prefer to buy a new driver, they still sell the Taylormade M4 for cheap brand new. I've tried it next to the stealth, the titleist TSR2, and paradym, and it felt just as good. I honestly love how stable the stock atmos shaft feels in it. Great super fast and forgiving driver for cheap.

I’m using two Callaway Big Bertha 454 Titanium (11 and 10 degrees). $50 each. Zero complaints.

There are great deals in the used market that can work fine. I found a used Bang Golf Bangster driver for cheap. I had a Fujikura R flex shaft in my work shop and put it in. I'm 65 and my swing speed is not fantastic. The head is 12 degrees, so I set this up as a mini driver, 42 inches. I am playing for position these days. This is a very control oriented set up for me. My 235 yard drives are fine.

@Barneyrubble241

Ай бұрын

Are you kidding?? 235 is fantastic at 65. I'm 60 and hit it about the same distance and outdrive all my buddies & most guys I play with. I bet it's the same for you.

@MichaelSisley-fw3xr

Ай бұрын

@@Barneyrubble241 I do work out. (28yrs in the Army, infantry, it is a habit). I walk, ride the mountain bike, do light weights, lots of stretching. I recently played with my nephew and some of his work friends. He asked me if I got tired of hitting it down the middle. I said no. Every one of those younger guys were pounding the ball (everywhere), sometimes in the fairway. I play with my mini driver, 3W,5W, 7W, 9W, 11W, 8i, 9i, PW, SW, 68LW. I can chip and putt decently. That is my game. Most of it is just keeping it in play. If in trouble, take the medicine, then get out of trouble. As a young man, I could move the ball. These days, it is a different game.

I bought a Callaway XR Speed last year new for ~USD$150. One of the most forgiving drivers I've ever played and long enough for me, I just couldn't justify paying three or four times the price for maybe an extra five yards.

The LTDx was extremely long in all of the robotics tests and it’s 3 years old now. I loved it when I had it and may go back to it

@SvingitGolf

5 ай бұрын

Had an LTDx LS 9*. It is a beast.

@belalang90

5 ай бұрын

Just started to get the feel of the LTDx and can confirm Im always ahead of my mate lol. Just that when Im learning to use it, if I sky the ball, the mark at the edge of the driver's head really irritate me.

Taylormade rbz with a senior flex shaft was a freaking rocket bomber

I had the cobra speedzone for 3 years, tried all the drivers since and only recently found something thats better then it for me, which is the pxg 0311 Gen 5

I still play with the 913 up to this day :D I wanna switch to tsr this year

I got a Taylor made r7 limited it goes like 280 for me and pretty straight most of the time

Just picked up a Mizuno ST-X 220 brand new for $140. Can’t recommend this driver enough, used to have a mean slice and this club fixed my swing for all my clubs.

@TheAmpharosFreak

3 ай бұрын

lol sure bud. The club fixed your over the top swing and open club face through impact? Uh huh.

@VCardGaming

2 ай бұрын

@@TheAmpharosFreak my old 2004 driver felt like swinging a piece of driftwood. I can actually tell where the head is on the new driver and it helped me swing every other club because now my body knows where the head is and its orientation. It has built in draw bias and a naturally more closed face, so it’s obviously not gonna slice like my old one

@ChrisSmith-rd6dm

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheAmpharosFreakmovingnthe driver clubhead back 6 to 8 in away from the ball stopped my slice instantly i pisb them left now and then but my slice is gone

Callaway epic speed going for $100-$150 is tough to beat as well and still pretty current

Bought a 2008 Bridgestone head and a decent shaft from Golfworks....boom. $67

Nike Vapor Pro works for me 😂 !

I just would like to inform all the new comers here when he says a little money 3 to $400 we still have 13 more clubs to go welcome to Golf.

En el momento en que vi el bolso kislux , supe que tenía que tenerlo.

I still have a tsi3 8 degree with a.. Graphite Design xc 6. Let's just say I have another tsi3 head on reserve. Best fuck8ng setup i ever had. I knocked the 3wood outta my bag.

I used to have a 910 D3 for 10 years until its face lost most of its pop and I use a wrong shaft a heavy bugger that was Fujikura F3 80. Despite wrong fitting it still an amazing driver with great classy look, sound and feedback truly meant for serious players not like the wowzers and yahoos drivers we have today.

1. Callaway Epic OG 2. 2016 M2 3. F9

Literally just put my M5 back in the bag because I couldn't gel with the G430

You forgot the Taylormade RBZ

M2 is still the best driver I’ve ever played with. I slice a lot but it was so forgiving it kept my shots straight and gave me so much distance.

Morikawa is in the max lol cheeky Simon

@SASGolf

5 ай бұрын

Initially he was, but then changed out after the farmers insurance to the standard head. Could be wrong if he’s changed back though!

Never used driver playing at 2 handicap with iron's only no woods or hybrids just 1 iron and 2 iron for tee's and long par 5

Rory still talks about the M2 Driver

Bubba used the G20 in the 2012 Masters.

Im 64. Call me crazy but i am still hitting the Ping G2 i bought new back in 2005. Still get 285 to (300 from time to time) from the whites with it... Think I paid around $400 for it back then.

Drivers and shafts for pros are not off the shelf. There is extensive customization for Pros more than we see. Head, shaft , grip, hossle, face loft, weights added or minimized etc. Get lessons, find your swing, invest in a quality fitting over multiple days using multiple options, keep asking for changes and go back to previous set ups for benchmarking, let the fitter complain all he wants for all the re-attaching and disassembly, and study the data. Usually you get what you pay for and how long you study for. Pause your back swing, let gravity start the swing then rip it with accuracy. I'm not a gifted athlete so this took me a long time to figure out.

My dad is still playing XR 16. I have played the Speedzone Xrtm for several years, bought brand new for $299. The matte version has one of the best looking crowns ever made! The black yellow looked terrible

I change between a 915d2 and a xr16 with a 3 wood shaft for when the confidence is low😂

Ping G400, Taylormade 2016 m2, GBB epic original.. all god tier drivers

Got the radspeed xb for next to nothing. Loads coming into the market these days

Just bought a m2 after watching this

I think average golfers have to look at and buy what LPGA players are using

@samowen7189

5 ай бұрын

Can you explain why please?

@jungyul2005

5 ай бұрын

@samowen7189 average golfers swing speed and skill set are some what similar or less to LPGA golfers and they use easy to hit and fly high clubs. Average golfers age around 50 years old

@stevenhughes7880

5 ай бұрын

Seriously? You think average golfers have “somewhat similar skill set” to lpga players??

@kamthescholar

5 ай бұрын

@@stevenhughes7880swing speed and power wise yes. obviously not acquired skills but athletic skills are comparable

@user-kw7rt9zl4e

5 ай бұрын

Yup

Would be good to see you put 2024 drivers up against these for forgiveness and distance

Have had an M2 for 4 years and honestly have never considered changing it. Still smoking it 40 past lads who have purchased AI Smoke or G430’s

The oldTaylor made M1 2017 is the best driver ever

M5 is longest Taylormade driver ever

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

'Promosm'

Don't forget to check your spelling or are you saving space?

Pitiful presentation IMO

Listening to this channel made me a worse golfer.

Bubba was using the Ping G20 driver to win the 2012 Masters, the G25 was released February 2013. I still use the G20, can’t find anything better.

@yoholmes273

2 ай бұрын

Just picked what appears to be a never used Ping G25. I am absolutely shocked at the performance of this club. I can't even begin to express the quality of this classic gem.

kislux I love you so much and watching your videos makes my day brighter

I gamed the m5 in 9 degrees and a stiff shaft for years and i am not super fast. I mean im faster than most but not up there with youtube golf guys. I dont carry it 350 every single time.

I still game the M4. Until i cant hit it 300 and in the fairway, why buy another