''I've woke up at 9am every weekday for 18 months to apply for jobs'' ''That's not enough, you need to be working full time'' Well no shit Sherlock, that's why he's trying to do?

@user-up6gf1vu9v

2 ай бұрын

I know right! I was thinking the same thing

Asking Ken Coleman for help is like asking a shark to rescue a drowning victim. He doesn't give a dime about you, or your problem. All he does is making some high sounding statement and then promote his book. A truly vile man

@jackieyoung3359

11 ай бұрын

💯% agree. I do not understand what his appeal is. I think he’s a douche.

@reiniergarcia

4 ай бұрын

That’s 100% true.

Guy dont need a book, he needs a job.. lol

@front331

11 ай бұрын

A copy of Ken's book is on its way for him.

@patrickmartin8479

11 ай бұрын

😂

@johncameron4194

11 ай бұрын

he can sell the book

@superblump87

11 ай бұрын

Books give you knowledge to get jobs.

@abark

11 ай бұрын

@@superblump87 any info in a book which isn't fiction is available online and more up to date.

Ken is just basically saying it's who you know, not what you know.

@jasonrodgers9063

11 ай бұрын

Too true!

@Tank-vi2dv

11 ай бұрын

Who do you need to know to deliver pizzas?

@fauxbro1983

11 ай бұрын

No. With LinkedIn social media you can easily find out who the hiring manager is and circumvent HR. You bean make a phone call to introduce yourself and be proactive

@jasonrodgers9063

11 ай бұрын

@@Tank-vi2dv Nobody for delivering pizza, but if you want a job a bit "higher up the food chain", then yeah, you need connections!

@Tank-vi2dv

11 ай бұрын

@@jasonrodgers9063 negative. Loser mentality

I feel for the guy on the job hunt. Started looking for my first big boy job out of school in May of 2020. Took me almost 6 months to land something as an engineer. No slack for not working though. Those six months I worked as a butcher during the day and all the side jobs during nights and weekend, plus getting after applying to jobs and make connections. I look back three years later with my dream job, I'm greatful for that season and how humbling it was.

@r-uu2qi

11 ай бұрын

Congrats on your success. May 2020 was the worst job market period ever.

I’ve been working for a college in Philly for over 17 years. I can tell you that there’s a lot of discrimination, favoritism, nepotism and outright hiring of people they know rather than qualify people. HR is useless in enforcing fairness, equality, inclusive or any other woke terminology they use but don’t practice. Got to be your own boss these days guys. 80% of the work force is trash.

@hplifestylelessonsandfun9131

11 ай бұрын

I know this to be true in many areas of employment. This is sad

@oneaboveallferrarifan2725

11 ай бұрын

Welcome to muricuhh

@only1_babybashfanpage

11 ай бұрын

@CindyGuzman-xl5uiHonestly investing is really something we need i advice people to take digital currency seriously because the rise of bitcoin will be alarming

@diggernash1

11 ай бұрын

Network and be likable.

@TheSonyExperience

11 ай бұрын

@@oneaboveallferrarifan2725that’s how it is around the world. If folks think you can just have 0 network and get a high paying job just because you have a degree you would be a fool. A degree is the bare minimum. This guy has no skills other than a piece of paper that says he is barely qualified to do a job just like the millions of others who have the same degree

The idea that you can make 20 per hour in ride share food delivery is wrong. These gigs are only pay during primetime, you have to pay gas and they are highly competitive with other drivers in the area.

@TheMichelleaking

11 ай бұрын

by design, keeps wages low.

@martinramirezmi5457

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct.

@DagnirRen

11 ай бұрын

These morons in the Ramsey show have had no real struggles in life other than white collar struggles. They don’t know what it’s like to work for survival paycheck to paycheck. They made dumb decisions, got into high debt and had family to fall back on, so they don’t know what they’re talking about… Including Dave himself.

@msessenceofreality

Ай бұрын

Not to mention your vehicle must be younger than 15 years old.

@PAKALOLOBANDIT

19 күн бұрын

Not only fuel prices the wear and tear on your vehicle will catch up with all miles put on it not to mention insurance companies won't cover you if involved in an accident .

When I graduated from college I had a hard time finding a job as well. He needs to keep pushing. It was a total shock to me that I was “ college educated “ and I couldn’t find a job in my field.

@trfrierson

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately people should recommend their kids get a part time entry level job while in school in the industry of their choosing. Work experience will always get you at least an interview

@jloomis7

11 ай бұрын

This was 100 percent me as well

@aolvaar8792

11 ай бұрын

@@trfrierson My University had Blanket job offers, If you graduate, you are hired. Highest median starting salary from a public institution in the USA.

@adamseidel9780

11 ай бұрын

@@aolvaar8792 Cal? Michigan?

@fauxbro1983

11 ай бұрын

I have a bachelor of science in civil engineering and was hired during the great recession in 08. Caller isn't motivated enough or taking it seriously or being proactive enough to try and circumvent HR to get ahold of the hiring manager/supervisor.

I didn't start work close to 17 months. Some places wont hire students out of college bc they have no experience. I got my job bc i asked a friend. That the only way i got it. Its not your fault. Its the system.

Wish there were some way to get in touch with the caller. My employer is hiring entry-level data analysts and I’d be happy to screen this guy and even give him some tips / advice and try to set up a call with our internal recruiter. The hosts are right about needing to set yourself apart by making a real human connection. Working with a recruiter is another good move, as long as they have established relationships with a few clients they already have their foot in the door and can get you on the short list. Don’t give up Ryan!

@hornetguy9063

11 ай бұрын

Agree with this. While recruiters are a bit of a numbers game, at least that’s a chance to have an actual phone call with a human being that can connect you to hiring managers. That’s how I got my first real professional job. This being said, I’d like a return to the days where you walk into a work building and give the person at the front desk an application package, addressed to the hiring manager. The fact that it’s so easy to apply for jobs now does kind of result in the same problem that a lot of women have in online dating: they have so many options, that they end up making the choice based on cosmetics and don’t regard simple stuff (like if this person actually plans to stick around)

@hornetguy9063

11 ай бұрын

@ivans3778 it’s true. But beggars can’t be choosers and independent headhunters are easier to get connected with

@MrBubs-yu4wm

11 ай бұрын

@ivans3778 you may be right but last time I talked to a recruiter their arrangement was they got a one-time payment of some percentage of the placement’s salary from the employer after a successful placement. Of course this still drives up the total cost of hiring which could put downward pressure on compensation in the short term especially

@monas5054

11 ай бұрын

any chance we can get the info?

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@ivans3778 But if not employed why worry about missing money with none coming in?

I'd highly recommend college students do 3 things to become more competitive: 1. Keep your GPA above a 3.0 2. Work PAID internships in your desired field while in school (paid internships usually offer relevant work experience) 3. Utilize resources at your school to get internships and full time jobs (resume review, interview coaching, connections to companies, career fairs)

@InsertHandleName989

2 ай бұрын

Have done all three of these and am also trying to become a data analyst rn. The job market is just so terrible and companies have such a lack of respect for their applicants, it’s appalling.

I got my programming job through a twitch chat reference lol Networking is huge! My employer didn't even look at my degree. I just said I wanted to learn and I hit the ground running.

@georgewagner7787

11 ай бұрын

I don't even know what that meant

@KhmerH20

11 ай бұрын

@@georgewagner7787 twitch is a social media/online gaming platform. people can chat there. i agree, networking is huge.

@izawarszawska

11 ай бұрын

@@georgewagner7787 twitch? it's a voice platform for gamers, podcasters etc. where you can create a community around a common interest.

@reiniergarcia

4 ай бұрын

The world doesn’t works that way for 99.9999% of us kid.

HOW ABOUT EMPLOYERS STOP POSTING 1 YEAR EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY WANT 10 YEARS. NOBODY HIRES NEW PEOPLE. IT'S CRAZY

Not enough people talk about how hard it is to find a job right now. It is 100% an employers market.

@dumbgenious1960

11 ай бұрын

Also have to disagree with just easily getting a gig job. It’s not that simple. Contracts are replacing real employee jobs, and even for minimum wage there’s so many people applying for it, I see posts everyone online about how people just can’t land anything

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@dumbgenious1960 Yeah your right. But what options do people have?

@dumbgenious1960

11 ай бұрын

@@donaldlyons17 I don’t disagree with you. But I just mean even for things like Walmart and McDonald’s it’s getting harder to get a job there

@DagnirRen

11 ай бұрын

@@dumbgenious1960true. I personally know people who have a clean record and decent resume, but can’t get a full time retail job.

@superblump87

11 ай бұрын

​@DagnirRen people need to set the bar higher for themselves beyond a "clean record and decent resume". Come on.

When the college experience ends and the real world begins. This poor kid is trying to find a job the same way he studied for school.

The Job Market is brutal. I had to reapply back to my old job to gain more experience. I am convinced at this point most of the applications you send out on Indeed or LinkedIn are just tossed into a pile never to be seen again.

@debrajackson4138

11 ай бұрын

The job market s brutal, I agree. If you’re willing to put 4-5 years hard work into your life wn business. It would be well worth it. The financial industry is booming. Google which industry makes the most 6 figure earners. It’s a people business, you will always be in business. I’m working to build a business I can leave to my kids, it’s possible.

This reminds me a lot of myself. I graduated in 2008 and even though I had a “good” degree, it was still proving to be difficult (if not impossible) to find work. It took me 2 years to land in a job, and it was with some tiny company that no one has ever heard of. Now was there no structural obstacles to my search? Of course not. If they want to hire their buddies, or “improve diversity”, or whatever they want to do, they’ve a right to hire whomever they want. But you’re just an anonymous nobody when you’re applying around. And also, clearly just signing into your laptop and spamming resumes isn’t working. It might be time to change tactics, like reaching out to headhunters directly.

@John3.36

11 ай бұрын

08' was a year of economic hardship.

@hornetguy9063

11 ай бұрын

@@John3.36 it was. 2023 isn’t too hot either, besides people invested in equities

@littleripper312

11 ай бұрын

I also really struggled to find work in 2008. I had to take a job at Dairy Queen while I continued my job searching.

Its hard to get your first job, especially if you don’t live in a metro area. He needs to have someone look at his resume and use the college recruitment department from his old college.

@HHSMCJROTC

11 ай бұрын

I can’t necessarily agree on using the college for his resume. I’ve done that and am in a job a college would frown on.

@Dividendflywheel

11 ай бұрын

With that degree multiple internships would have opened some doors. The university you graduate from is also very important

@bailee7696

8 ай бұрын

@@Dividendflywheel that’s wrong some people don’t have access to good universities plus people are bias

I volunteered for a whole year and was able to find a job because someone told me to try Pathways. Friends and family told me I was stupid to volunteer for free. Volunteering helped me stay busy, keep a positive attitude, learn real job skills, helped me get accepted to graduate school and found a paid full time job while going to school at the same time. I see the value of volunteering. It’s rough out there but gotta keep going forward

@DanteUchiha-go5dt

11 ай бұрын

Love this! Volunteering can definitely be very valuable for anyone looking to gain professional skills and experience

@georgewagner7787

11 ай бұрын

My friends from the Philippines who are nurses had to do that in their country and everyone does.

@lmor7110

11 ай бұрын

As a suddenly unemployed middle-aged woman in 2019 (employer “going in a different direction” 🤨), I tried everything to get a new job (career fairs, retraining, local applications & followups, etc.) Meanwhile, in the summer I volunteered for 3 months, with a non-profit & Cdn. Legion branch. In November, a request for a character reference on my resume turned into my FT job today. Never underestimate the power of connections!

@taylorsmith9629

11 ай бұрын

What is pathways?

@mocheen4837

11 ай бұрын

In college, I worked at my company as an intern. They offered me a full time position after six months. I have been there for almost 28 years now. When I started working there I was making $60,000. I dropped out of college as my pay was more than I would have made with my degree. Within 1.5 years I was making over $100,000. After 15 years my pay went over $200,000. I was able to put my wife through school and pay for her tuition in full. We are not rich, but we are comfortable.

For everyone struggling....Don't Give Up! You are needed in the right place, you're valuable...don't forget that! Second...want to share a tip I learned in a career center that helped: Set up what is called an Informational Interview. This is where you contact who would be your supervisor for the position, or the HR director, ask to set up an interview to learn more about the position. Do this step after filling out the information needed to apply for the job. Have a few copies of your resume printed also print out the job description and company mission(for your own notes to practice), and look for specific skills, education, even volunteering where you used these skills. Make a list of questions you would like to know more about...examples: job duties, how they can help you in advancing your skills, moving up, company direction, ect. When you go into the interview, and ask these questions and the supervisor/HR director describes more details...THIS is your chance to shine...share the examples of your experience and skills in those areas. This worked for me back in 2017. When first plan was just apply online and follow up call...NO interviews for a year! I did this method...got a job in 3 months!

@wavy2k

Ай бұрын

I’ve done something like this before. I’ve been looking for 3 months. The job market is so stupid now.

im in a similar boat and its incredible discouraging to apply and apply and not even get interviews . these online jobs must not even be real like ghost job vacancies . but knowing the right people and getting connections is very difficult and that alone is like winning the lottery unless you're a very outgoing person

@baileymaloney1961

11 ай бұрын

just start drinking & going out I guess

He has a boomer mentality. He said he have been looking for 18 months, but heard back from no one. But they just go on and on and on, about how easy it is. Ken thinks that's not enough. He's looking, what else do you want him to do? How can you meet with people, of you don't know these people? I don't think there were listening.

@ArtaxForever

11 ай бұрын

They're transitioning Ken into some of Dave's roles. Boomer, complains about young people, complains about taxes, etc.

@blazehall8086

11 ай бұрын

you could see the host felt uneasy when he agreed he was already doing rideshare on weekends. Lousy boomer advice. Would love to see if this dude is really making any money outside of this show.

@Tank-vi2dv

11 ай бұрын

You got that loser mentality - go get some money and stop commenting on a KZread channel you clearly hate

@adamseidel9780

11 ай бұрын

Passive tossing a few job applications in for positions you may or may not be even qualified for, and definitely aren’t competitive for, isn’t “looking for jobs.” They did a bad job of giving him a source of information to improve his looking strategies, however.

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

11 ай бұрын

Looking for a job ISN'T enough. It's clear from the fact that he isn't getting one.

I’ve been trying to get a job for 14 months and no one is answering or responding!

It took my son 6 months to find a job on his college break. He got alot of interviews but no job during that time. Finally, he got a job in January and has been working and going to school. Sometimes it takes a bit of time.

The best way to find a job is to make job hunting your full-time job. And you have to some job hunting in person too. Then work ANY kind of job during the evening to keep your days free for interviews.

I was recently at IN-N-OUT BURGER and they were hiring now at $20.00 an hour, if I was in need of a job I would be all over that.

@georgewagner7787

11 ай бұрын

Shake shack gave me an uncooked burger

@endofquoterepeattheline7516

11 ай бұрын

@@georgewagner7787 how have you gone on living your life after that experience?

@thooks1234

11 ай бұрын

@@endofquoterepeattheline7516 🤣

@Andrew--S

10 ай бұрын

They don't actually hire anybody. It's all propaganda for them to look good.

My husband is a data engineer now but he got his fist data analyst job not straight out of school. What actually helped him was working his way up to a supervise position at the local Coka cola delivery hub. It helped get even the smallest experience at managing numbers that got his foot in the door at a national tanker company that's headquartered here. He too has a degree in finance.It's easier to find a job when you have a job. He worked his way from data analyst, to manager of analytics, to now Data Engineer Oh I wanted to add that before he even got his data analyst position we paid off most if his students loans

@georgemendez6760

11 ай бұрын

BEAUTIFUL!

he wants to be a financial analyst.. yet he doesn't realize he needs to make more money NOW to get rid of his 50k debt.

@loujon191

11 ай бұрын

He needs time to post on instagram

This reminds me of a girl I used to date before the pandemic. Instead of getting a regular job that would pay the bills she rather use unemployment and her savings rather than get a regular job because it wasn't her field.

@georgewagner7787

11 ай бұрын

Unemployment is so destructive. We had a neighbor who got it for 2 years and basically stopped looking for work. He was obese so it was hard for him to find work but there was no incentive no one checked up. After the two years then he got the doctor to sign off on disability and ate food until he ended up in a wheelchair into a wheelchair

@Rashaadthegr8

11 ай бұрын

@@georgewagner7787 dang. Really?

@thooks1234

11 ай бұрын

@@Rashaadthegr8 Yes, really. I bet there's a few million of these stories out there... I hope you're not young, the future isn't real bright for this country.

@Rashaadthegr8

11 ай бұрын

@@thooks1234 I am younger than the average American.

I'm a Financial data analyst (pretty much exactly what this guy wants to be) Ne they gave him very bad advise. He should be spending his days getting certifications (SQL, python, Azure) that would pay off 10x more then riding a stupid Uber. And connection are not what is going to get you a job in that field. I have been doing that for 10 years and work at tons of different companies and never been hired based on connection. You get hired by checking boxes on your resume and proving you can bring value with your skills. It's a very transparent and straightforward line of work

"We're in a fantastic economy." What??? Dave Ramsey team has been telling us the economy is horrible... maybe it is just politics

@trent797

11 ай бұрын

Sometimes the truth slips out.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@trent797 LOL

@talynscarbrough6557

11 ай бұрын

We're in a terrible job economy right now. Sure it's great for retail, fast food, etc. It's terrible in tech right now. It would make a massive difference if these guys would learn to differentiate between data sets.

I’ve been a financial analyst and financial analyst tech coach at one of the Fortune 500 companies for the past 7 years. There is definitely a shortage of qualified people and knowing someone is not necessary, but that being said it is still unlikely for a college grad to just get dropped into the role. I’ve seen it happen once for a pretty big rockstar. Outside of that, at least two to three years in related field are required. Many start in banking. I’ve seen people come over from funds management. Some do data entry or transaction processing for the company they want to be at, then move into analytics role as an internal applicant.

@alonabeck713

11 ай бұрын

@@Forgiveness9 as in give you some pointers or recommend you for an open role? I only recommend people I know and have seen them work, so in that regard I won’t be able to help, but as far as some pointers, sure. 1. Pick an industry. Finance is a beautiful path because every business in every industry needs financial experts. But the key here is being an expert. Make sure you are learning about your industry as a whole because financial analysts often are expected to be the link between multiple departments and contacts both internal and external. For example my industry is health insurance. 2. Identify key players in the industry. Do smaller companies hire financial analysts? Yes. But you will likely be expected to already be an expert as smaller companies have fewer resources for training and development. Getting started, I’d recommend targeting larger employers. Luckily many of these roles, at least in health insurance field, moved to remote work past COVID, so you are no longer limited by location as much. For my industry I’d maybe focus on top 8-10 carriers. 3. Monitor careers section of their websites closely. Large employers (say top 100 of Fortune 500 list) don’t post to Indeed, Monster, etc. these listings may trickle in to those sites, but it takes time; and in my experience the time to apply is generally VERY tight. Most openings are only out there for a week, maybe two weeks at most, so checking the company website will give you the best chance of identifying roles that are truly open. And don’t snooze on applying - cause requisitions, like I said, are only open for a very short window of time. 4. When applying, there will generally be all kinds of required fields for you to fill in information about your professional history and at the end you will also have an optional opportunity to upload a resume. ALWAYS upload a resume. Even if the recruiter is fine to proceed without one, the hiring manager will want to see one. 5. Do not submit a blanket resume of all the things you’ve done in your past employment. Tailor your resume for the specific position you are applying for. Say, the role you are applying for lists reconciliations that you will be doing as part it. Say, you are currently working as a banker at Wells Fargo and mostly opening checking accounts for folks. Unless the listing indicates that you will be opening new accounts, no need to list account opening as a current work task. Instead think of transferable skills/tasks, like helping customers with their check book reconciliations. Sure this is probably a minuscule part of what you would do day-to-day as a banker at Wells Fargo, but it is the more relevant part to the new role that you are applying for, so list it. Ideally you would have matching experience/transferable skills for all or most of the required skills listed in the job description. It’s ok if your experience in something happened three jobs ago - if you have it and it is relevant - show it on your resume. 6. When interviewing ask questions to learn even more about the role. Even if you get rejected, this will give you a leg up in the next interview possibly even with another company, because if you are targeting the same industry, chances are the roles and workload within those roles will be very similar. Questions like “Tell me about the team I’ll be working with”, “Tell me about day-to-day”, “what other teams within the company I’ll be working with if I was placed in this role”, “what do current team members say they enjoy the most about the role”, or even “what do current employees share as their challenges” are all good questions to ask. Again, if you are passed up this time and go into another interview for a similar role and can speak of your understanding of the day to day and interactions with others, the hiring manager will be pleasantly surprised to see that you know what you are getting into and would be more comfortable offering the role to you. If you don’t understand something don’t be afraid to ask clarifying questions too. 7. Be ready with actual examples illustrating your knowledge, competencies, specific projects you worked on, specific contributions you have made, past successes, past challenges, and how you navigated/overcome those challenges. Have 5-8 strong situations from your past employment that you prepare ahead of time that you can use to illustrate some of this. Usually the same situation can showcase several skills, so you don’t need a ton of examples just 5-8 good ones. And no, you won’t be able to think of them on the spot. 8. If you don’t get the job and assuming that you did ask which other teams you’d be working with, if hired, consider applying into those teams too. What you may have already discovered in your past employment is that financials are usually the end of the road in most cases where we are working with data of the decisions and actions that already happened. Yes you may be making recommendations for the future, but the data is from the past. Well, those other teams usually are the ones who made those past decisions and took those past actions and some of those teams are likely to be more entry-level geared. So if you get a no on the financial analyst role, try applying into some of those other teams and then transferring as an internal applicant. For health insurance industry, related teams would include: revenue, banking, implementation, eligibility, and underwriting. Good luck!

I felt sorry for him until he said that he just sits at home 5 days a week applying for jobs. He could have easily gotten a job outside his field while he waits for interviews. It took my 3 years to get a job in her field after college, and she worked 2 jobs that whole time.

@bluejedi723

11 ай бұрын

the worksource office in my area is constantly holding job fairs

@elnoraabduqadir2297

11 ай бұрын

He has no rent to pay, so he is not trying hard.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@elnoraabduqadir2297 Why not try hard so he can pay if as and when he needs too? I say getting jobs is not simple unless one is willing to work for anyone, anywhere, for any wage.

@msovaz77

11 ай бұрын

He could target a company and get an entry level job there in something else. Then wait for a job to open.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@msovaz77 Depends on how lucky he can get when employment offers. For example spend 3 month applying and talking to places trying to get $18 to $20. I just recently got 4 interviews for jobs in that range. So yeah he might get some nothing paying job with no future good options or he could just wait long enough to get a good job offer from the start. Given the options him waiting for a good job offer sounds 1000X better because he is starting at and able to convince other employers he can do jobs that pay well...... There is every possibility that they will assume if he works a nothing job he just can't do better paying jobs....

It took me 1 year to find a job. What helped me the most was using my college's career center and basically getting help from that. Don't give up!

Ken is as useful as a $3 dollar bill

@amireallythatgrumpy6508

11 ай бұрын

Or as useful as the word "dollar" once the $ symbol has already been written.

Finance as a major is brutal to get into. There are very few other fields that are dog eat dog. Most people working in that field majored in something else usually Stem field

@roncrudup2110

11 ай бұрын

Most people working in finance aren’t stem majors. Quantitative finance is a small segment of finance. I got a master in computational finance cause most people in finance aren’t technical.

One of the best things you can utilize from your college is getting an internship! Various ways: sometimes they provide direct access to some, sometimes your professors know of positions and companies hiring and sometimes the admin can help you land one and this helps tremendously opening up to networking with other interns and people at the company. I went to a commuter state school in St Louis and this was the key to kickoff my career in accounting. He's already graduated, but it could be worth it to reach out to your college and try. See if you can sign up and take a class if you have to be technically "enrolled" as a student to qualify for one.

College finance professor here. Ryan needs to go back to the few top professors in finance that he impressed 18 months ago and send them his latest CV and tell them he is looking for anything in finance, including back office or low-level jobs. YOUR CV MUST BE FLAWLESS! ABSOLUTLEY WORD PERFECT! Finance practitioners are continuously contacting me, as a professor, telling me they need someone desperately (because a new hire did not show, or a recent hire quit, or someone got sick, etc.). If I have some CVs in hand from good students, I send them out with a personal recommendation. I love helping good people get good jobs (or even a foot in the door in a low-level entry position), but the student needs to contact me to get that help. If Ryan is not doing this, then other people are taking those jobs while his degree knowledge is getting stale. Also, Ryan needs to go to a local university with a Bloomberg terminal (or pay $150 to do it online) and get Bloomberg BMC certified and Bloomberg ESG certified. Get it done now and those recent dates will help show that you have not been idle since graduating.

Its who you know not only what you know. Make connections, stay visible & build a network but until then get do uber or something. Damn near monthly i just mind my business & someone calls me with an opportunity i wasn't even looking for

Walk in with resumes and walk out with a business card. Cant rely on just the internet to find a job.🙄

@abark

11 ай бұрын

Won't even be able to get into the building or beyond the lobby at companies which hire data analysts.

This guy lives in San Jose CA, one of the most expenses places in the United States. Also one of the most competitive. Their advice lacks reality.

@MJMonroe

11 ай бұрын

Facts.

Finance industry rough now its all changed post covid. Only way to get anywhere at the banks is connections. As someone with 10 years in finance its not easy. I interview 2-3x a week to look for the next best job, while working on the side and owning companies. Its all or nothing. Sometimes you got to mow the ceo's grass if you want that job.

Internship, Internship, Internship. Is the best way to get your foot in the door right out of college.

This is how I got into tech in 1999, I took a bunch of courses in web design then I went to a temp agency and took a bunch of exams on Excel Word typing, etc. and they got my feet in the door in a company doing unrelated office work. From there you just need to make friends, good contacts, get good recommendations maybe even temp for two years until you get a full-time position.. Yeah, you need to adapt to the situation that you will find yourself in. Your expectation of being hired right after school might be an outdated concept.

He is not giving the right answers to the employers. He has to communicate that he is worth hiring and also come across likable/ as someone they will enjoy having in the office.

Thats so true connections are needed for the really good jobs

i have had the same hard time getting a better job . we're being told its a easy time so many people are hiring but that's just a lie, some basic service and trucking industries yes but most fields aren't hiring nearly as much as we are being told

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

Yep not an issue either but also for every job I have applied for I hear there are at least 10 applicants. So if the jobs he is looking at pay well I would suspect t hey have so many very qualified people.

350 people are applying to the same job and all i can get is doordash

I like their response, you have to work even if it’s something that you don’t like at times but it can help you.

"What job are you looking for?" "I keep sending applications and doing linked in and.." It was pulling teeth to get him to say what field he wanted to work in. If his applications follow that inability to answer a simple question, it's no wonder he isn't getting hired.

"You need to knock out that debt". Dude, the guy is telling you he can't get a job

While networking is important, if this guy hasn't gotten so much as an interview for 18 months of full-time applying, that makes me think something is majorly off with his resume. He should reach out to counselors at his college to help him ensure his resume reflects what employers are looking for.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

They have services that for a small fee will look over stuff....

Not even McDonald’s? 😢

@DerickJordanDJ

11 ай бұрын

I’m sure you would want to know admin Macdonald of Validtrades

@semosancus5506

11 ай бұрын

Shake shack here is paying 15/hr and their sign is always out

@jwlsngold5026

11 ай бұрын

He hasn't tried, Fast Food worker would be below him!!

@erikgabrieljimenez4622

11 ай бұрын

It took me almost a year to find a professional job after college, however, i was working 50 plus hours right after college delivering amazon packages. A funny note, I actually got turned down by some fast food restaurants for being overqualified 😂. They thought i was lying. They even laughed at my face. I had to stop telling employers that i had a college degree and thats how i was able to get hired with a third party amazon delivery company.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@erikgabrieljimenez4622 Well think about it how many times does a college education person work in the back end of a food or short order place. Yeah I have likely meet 2 people who were out of several hundred I meet over a 10 year time frame. So why would anyone hire them knowing they will leave super fast and will be pickup at multiple times the income? WTF hiring someone like that is likely to be a total money sink because why would they ever come back to make less? I have seen that happen just once....

You most likely won’t make $20 an hour with instacart. An average batch pays $7, so it depends on good tips, busy areas, etc. I do instacart on the side in a smaller area, but I use to do it in a larger city.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

Yeah these guest somehow seem to not know how those companies work. Do they really think people make $20 an hour would bother trying to get legislation out west if that were the case? The median income for gig workers in the US can't be $20 an hour.

George says 3k a month but forgot to deduct taxes which for a single person is very high.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

He should have about 23K max as an single person after tax. If that is true he is making about 2,100 per month which is not much.

My dad taught me to bug the hr guy until they give me an interview. Initiative, kid.

@Elishazee

11 ай бұрын

I did that. Every other week. Every two weeks. They keep your resume at the top

@Andrew--S

10 ай бұрын

HR women blacklist you nowadays for bothering them

@Elishazee

10 ай бұрын

@@Andrew--S that’s too bad. I got the job

@unfliteredandunapologetic3004

9 күн бұрын

@joeriveracomedy I think that strategy only works with a recruiter that is exceptionally agreeable and open-minded. As @Andrew--S said, there are (some) HR people that will blacklist you if you constantly heckle them to consider your application.

Look for a job before you graduate. Get a head hunter to find work. Temp agency. Easiest job to get is a cop and teacher. (Substitute teachers make their own schedule)

i could not find a job for 10 months after graduation. After like two weeks with nothing after I kept sending out resumes, I realized it isn't working so I found a job, working as a waiter as I was still searching for a job so I can still have money to start paying student loan while on my grace period. I am so glad I did that, instead of just sitting in front of a laptop, waiting for chances

Must be nice to not have to pay rent and spend all week submitting resumes! I'd be homeless by now.

@superblump87

11 ай бұрын

This guy is unemployed...

@MJMonroe

11 ай бұрын

The caller doesn’t seem happy. It seems he has no contacts to help him.

In an ever increasing competitive job market a college degree with no relevant work experience and no proven track record of measurable success means you won't be the most "qualified" candidate. During my undergraduate degree, I interned for three companies (two unpaid) while working full time at a hotel as a front desk agent and night auditor because I wanted to get into the travel industry as a career. So while in college, I was a full time student with a 3.5 GPA, worked 40 hours a week at a hotel, while interning 32 hours a week for a travel company. The internships provided working knowledge of how to manage marketing campaigns, analyze the data and make improvements to the marketing collateral. Then report out to executives on what worked well, what didn't and how to make improvements. Before I graduated, I had job offers from all three companies I interned for.

Making ”easily 20 bucks an hour” is an absolute lie. These are two vile liars.

It's a real problem that a lot of people don't believe but nobody actually wants to hire and I'm 20 in NC

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

Might depend on your area. I live in a military area so it is an unfair comparison between military and non military areas.

Wtf ? He makes 600 dollars just for working weekends? Most people don't make that for a whole week's worth of work where I live. I've worked jobs breaking my back for 12 dollars an hr 7 days a week.

He sounds like an introvert. I can relate and just the thought of networking even now gives me anxiety (I retired 5 years ago :) I would suggest he choose an industry and/or a company that appeals to him. Get a job there - as a floor sweeper if necessary just to get his foot in the door. Then he'll get to know other employees to become friends and recommend him for different job. Find some online courses on "how to win friends and influence people" with an emphasis on just how to be outgoing. Get a job as a bookkeeper anywhere (night desk job in a hotel for example) just so he has SOMETHING RELATED to his profession on his resume. The longer he goes without doing anything in his field the less attractive he'll be to employers.

I’m a 15 year experienced IT senior engineer and it was letgo from my company due to corporate restructure. I’ve been looking for Work for the last six months and it’s brutal either it’s automatic rejections, or midway interview process and then being ghosted with connections to those businesses.

@DagnirRen

11 ай бұрын

Damn, and you have 15 year’s experience… I thought experience was king! So experience, degrees and certs seem to have the same results. I’m fvked

@bailee7696

8 ай бұрын

Automated job application readers should be abnndd

Almost every job I got, it was never posted anywhere. I just search for people in my field and reached out and ask. The current job I have was posted in LinkedIn but the previous 5 jobs over a 22 year period I just networked.

turns out that all money to get a piece of paper was not worth it. all I have left id my house to pay off thanks Dave for your advice.

To make this even more practical, I graduated in ‘19 with two bachelors degrees, one in bio. I have had dead end jobs since then bc the job market is awful. I’ve hated all the jobs, but they’ve gotten the bills paid. I’m working a job that pays 36K/yr and while it sucks, I’m getting consistent paychecks and I’m tryna use its money to get a better paying remote job. We’ll see with the next paycheck and over the next several months if I can succeed. I’ve also been fired for job after job not of my doing. If this is my situation I’d echo the host saying there’s no excuse for this kid to not work even if he hates the job. The idea is he gets the bills paid.

@Andrew--S

10 ай бұрын

36k a year i would bank 20k of it

Maybe Dave could get this guy a job at Ramsey Solutions. They're always hiring.

@front331

11 ай бұрын

He can take Ken's or JD's spot.

@katyedwards3935

11 ай бұрын

@@front331 Ken's great, but what's wrong with Jade?

@front331

11 ай бұрын

​@@katyedwards3935JD is John Deloney. Now that you mentioned it, Jade too.

@katyedwards3935

11 ай бұрын

@@front331 What's wrong with them? Jade's actually JW.

@front331

11 ай бұрын

​@@katyedwards3935La siento. No habla Español. Considère usar Google Translate.

The caller is right. I'm a data analyst with nearly 5 years experience and I know others with even more experience than that and we too cannot get jobs at other companies. I've sent out endless resumes. The market is just different right now. Thank God that I have a job while I'm looking tho

After I graduated from university, I found that the best place to get an in between job was a temp agency that hooked me up with a receptionist job. I was able to still look for another job in my field while working full time at a job that paid well and didn’t require a vehicle.

@sackettfamily4685

11 ай бұрын

How do you find a temp agency? I've only ever heard of these in movies

@DagnirRen

11 ай бұрын

@@sackettfamily4685same. I think only big cities have them.

@jackieyoung3359

11 ай бұрын

@@sackettfamily4685Adecco or Kelly Services are two of the biggest temp agencies in the country. And they have jobs in all sized towns, not just big cities. They are also often contracted by companies for temp-to-hire roles. Basically it takes the risk off of the company if the new hire isn’t a good fit they can easily get rid of them, but if they work out they will hire them directly for a permanent position. It’s a great way to get your foot in the door to some companies.

@Andrew--S

10 ай бұрын

@@sackettfamily4685 i lost faith in temp agencies at a manufacturing job i had where one guy was asking everybody for drugs. the management cut all the temps because of one dude. i wouldn't want to lose a job due to no fault of my own. why risk it. temps get labeled as a low class worker.

You have to request virtual informational interviews and earn referrals, you can’t just apply on the website nowadays unfortunately. The interview preparation process is intense also. It’s best to pay for a program to help you learn the tricks of getting a career if you can afford it. But all of the information is out there for free.

There are also some great resources that will teach him how to specifically tailor the resumes he is sending out to each individual job ad. If he is not doing that, his resume is not going to be past the AI and will never actually be seen by a human being. I can have a lot of sympathy for how he may feel about what these guys are saying and wouldn't blame him if he is thinking to himself that he didn't just put himself through four years of college so he could drive Uber and deliver pizza for 60 hours a week.

I don't understand how people say they can't find ANY job. You can find SOMETHING, it just might not be your ideal. But at the moment, that's okay.

@Wilky2526

11 ай бұрын

The problem is that the menial job takes so much time away from finding the job that they ACTUALLY want, and ACTUALLY went to school for - he needs other people to go to bat for him. The fast food jobs will provide flexibility (because they're hurting for people), for him to have job interviews; and they know full well he'll only need to be there for a few months, tops. At one point, college grads had been able to safely assume they could get an entry level job as soon as they graduated, but now the market is so watered down with these degrees, they need a ton of other stuff to go with it - soon the degree will be meaningless, and employers will only be looking for experience and skills - they won't care if those skills were developed in or out of college.

@kendrascorner

11 ай бұрын

@@Wilky2526 I understand not being able to find the job you went to school for... I really do. But I personally can't fathom not working full time in the meantime while looking 🤷🏼‍♀️ I did this myself, looking for a teaching job, working as a teacher's aid part time, nannying in the mornings and evenings, and working retail on nights and weekends. It absolutely sucked. And I was able to continue looking for jobs in between work. Did eventually get hired, in a different school district. Took a year. I know that's a niche market, but I'm just saying, working crazy hours and still applying to new jobs can be done.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@Wilky2526 Yeah but the issue there is if he has certain qualifications why take him knowing he is capable and looking to leave very soon?

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@kendrascorner While that might be true for you why assume others are just like you? Truth is everyone can't work crazy hours and still be able to interview for other jobs because the other job will hog all their time!!! With the exceptions of the weekends many jobs want me to be open whenever they need me. Replacing a job is one ting but he will likely need to interview at least once and maybe twice before a job offer for good paying jobs. It only gets more complicated trying to balance a job with getting other jobs.

@kendrascorner

11 ай бұрын

@@donaldlyons17 well, not paying your bills in the meantime seams like a pretty horrible decision. Most jobs have the option to take a personal day or sick day, or trade a shift with someone else, and most interviews have various time slots available for the interview. Is it fun? No. Is it easy? Also no. Is it necessary? Yes. Honestly, people who try to justify not working are privileged/lucky/blessed (take your pick on the word choice) to be in situations where they aren't actually homeless and starving for not working. Me personally, I didn't have the OPTION to not work because bills had to be paid if I wanted to have electricity and running water. Thank God I'm in a better situation now. But honestly, if you HAVE to pay your bills you will find a way to do that AND advance in your career.

He's in the bay area its common to find job fairs. Those are fantastic to find jobs you literally get your first interview on the spot and your resume directly into the hands of people wanting to hire.

people are trying, ive applied to trades and doing gigs with fiverr but there is no steady income. Also due to economy the employees are delaying and ghosting people who apply

I live in Bay Area extremely competitive market not like a typical job market. My husband interviews a lot people in Bay Area and extremely competitive market.

I am currently looking for a job too. 😞😞😞 Been since April, as I do seasonal taxes. So yeah.. I completely get it. Everyone is hiring, yet can't get in the door.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I feel for you because that is super not easy. I am dying to work again.

The job market is an absolute shit show. I have a job I don't like and was looking for 20 years for something better without any luck. I'm just glad I can retire in ten years.

My only advice to him is to only use the major job hunting websites as an intermediary resource. He should definitely look at them first but as soon as he finds postings on those websites, find those companies' official websites and go to their career page and find their job openings. There's probably a good 10 - 15 other postings they have that those job hunting websites don't have because the company didn't think they're worth paying those job hunting websites for.

My husband landed is Job in Bay Area making over 200,000 with connections and a lot experience. These big jobs aren’t being offered people right out of college in Bay Area.

From SJ as-well, best thing I ever did was clubs and networking events. Applied but took knowing a couple Professor’s to try and get me to get an interview. Then students I had classes with (work there) who vouched for me to even get a second look.

This guy just doesn’t sound enthusiastic. If you’re not even getting invited for an interview in 18 months, you’re not applying correctly… you need to change what you’re doing. No way you can apply for jobs for 18 months and not even get an interview without doing something seriously wrong

This dude may also face the reality that it’s a lot more common that you end up in sales with a finance degree than doing financial analysis. I have a finance j undergrad and spent time as an analyst but I came out of college with 4-5 years of sales and finance industry working history to sell to get that role. Hope this kid figures it out

Go to the unemployment office and speak with the person who work with people in your field reach out to your college alumni and post graduation team work a paid intern etc.

I recommend any college student do internships during your time in school. The internship experience in 4 years will be worth more than your high GPA. Students graduate with 0 exp in the field they study in and hope to land a job in the field. This is next to impossible unless you have connections in the company.

Do they still have temp agencies out there? I am retired, so I'm a dinosaur, but when I was young and working I got my foot in the door of some great companies through temp agencies. Because I was a go-getter, I always got job offers after working as a temp for them. My last job (21 years long) I answered a blind ad in a newspaper (I know that is really old school), but it turned out to be a job for a very large telecommunications company that was building infrastructure for wireless phones. I was hired on a temporary basis and after a year, I was hired permanently. The point I am trying to make is knock on 20 doors and at least one will answer. I was never out of work for long in 42 years of working. Yes, times today are different, but don't use that as an excuse. Companies need to get work done and to do that they need people to do the work. Yes, there are robots and A.I., but they still need people. Use your imagination and make getting a job happen. They are not going to come knocking on your door and hand you a job on a silver platter. Show imagination, initiative, and a willingness to get the job done. That's what companies want.

As someone in the data analytics space it is quickly becoming saturated. If the young man sees this comment, please work on your portfolio and network on LinkedIn. When I say network, I mean engage with people's content on LinkedIn and create your own content. I agree with Ken he doesnt need to be applying to jobs all day. I would work more ours and work on the portfolio duting his freetime

This guy can’t even comprehend enough to answer questions so he’s definitely in trouble. They basically asked him what type of work he does and he went on a tangent

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

His mind might be scattered by nature which I suspect might be his biggest problem. He can't get people to see his ability if he can't answer questions easily.

LoL the gig economy (Instacart ) has a new minimum payment of $4 per delivery …full time might cover the car costs 😅😅

During my debt free journey I eas unemployed two different tines for 6 months each time. People dont realize the benefit of osying stuff off or a couole months ahead during the good times. Grocery store is ALWAYS hiring. I seen 50+ people cone and go in just 3 years. Trust me.

Linkedin is a good connection website. Many years ago, a recruiter suggested to use Linkedin. I never heard of it but I created an account. Though I'm retired now I may go back to work p/t at a later date,, I still use Linkedin to connect with like people in my industry.

Mr. Unmotivated thinks his dream job is just gonna fall into his lap. Wakes up at 9, scratches his privates, plays around on his computer for an hour, and calls that a job search. Get up earlier and go get any job or internship you can, network like mad, and do something to keep your skills sharp until you get hired in your field.

Try and find out whovthe hiring manager is. Screw HR

Go to the workforce development center, they will help with resume and interview process. I had to go there because I was getting interview but no jobs

There was a time for 6 months no professional job toon a chance on me after I got released from a bad company of almost a year. Found a way to make it with side jobs while 50K+ in debt. Now debt free with full time job & side job to build wealth.

They truly don’t understand how hard it is to get a good job out here. Gigs and $15-$20/hour jobs only go so far

@selfoblivionalex6262

11 ай бұрын

Better then nothing! So just sit around hoping you'll get a call, one has to work regardless of what it is the debt isn't just going to disappear over night. If I were this caller I'd be working full time and applying during my days off.

@hornetguy9063

11 ай бұрын

@@selfoblivionalex6262and if he really lives in San Jose, he can easily do Uber if he does deliveries. That would get him some steady work during the week.

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@hornetguy9063 He has to make enough money to do stuff. That might be why he is not looking of just any job....

@donaldlyons17

11 ай бұрын

@@selfoblivionalex6262 Not true at all he needs to make a certain amount of money to afford to buy stuff and a $15 to whatever amount might not be enough. I can't blame him for trying to get employed using his education and skills gained in school. I would hate to see him end up super underpaid b/c he never used his skills.

it’s impossible for employers to find good workers in san jose, unemployment is at an all time low….

He sounds like delirious California things will fall in front door.😂

I've worked door dash and other jobs as a second job, and it doesn't pay enough to pay bills. This guy's advice is about 5 years in the past in a different economy, and he is out of touch. I've applied to everything from bartending jobs to Chic fila, and they just don't call. I currently work as a teacher and I can't pay my bills with one job. And before you say I spend too much, I don't go anywhere, I don't buy any clothes, I cook my own food and I'm barely making it.

@KM-fv8kv

14 күн бұрын

Fax! 📠