I think this fight was the straw that broke the camel's back for Travis about why he was fighting. Sure, he was doing it for the sake of revenge, but it was starting to wear on him, all the killing. First Vladimir, that russian astronaut, Ryuji, then Margaret, then Alice, all four easily the most human of all the assassins he had gone up against in his battles... one right after the other, just the senselessness of it.

@-Cyuu-

Жыл бұрын

Nah Holly did that in the first game

@eleos-7845

Жыл бұрын

@@-Cyuu-True, but Holly was just the one person. Ryuji, Vladimir, Alice, and Margaret were all fought in a relatively short timespan. Fighting four of the most humane in that game caused Travis to start reflecting on the violence.

@kingkrab5138

11 ай бұрын

@@eleos-7845I almost feel like many of the other assassins were very Human and Travis didn’t notice or care, and so they weren’t shown that way to the player.

@eleos-7845

11 ай бұрын

@@kingkrab5138 That’s how I feel as well. By the time we get to them and see them in the flesh, we usually only see how inhumane or dishonorable they are, drastically changed by the dopamine and adrenaline rushes they feel or felt when fighting, killing, and winning.

@Toxpao07

11 ай бұрын

@@eleos-7845didn’t he kinda feel remorse for Charlie McDonald’s cheerleaders first in NMH2? Because he said “killing a bunch of harmless cheerleaders” left a bad taste in his mouth?

The cutscene after this fight was probably one of the best in the game and honestly one of my favorite in all of the games because Travis’s speech and his pure rage about Alice dying and how they’re humans not just killing machines was amazing.The themes of death in the No More Heroes games is always interesting.

@pepeflag7263

2 жыл бұрын

True

@TheKhfan001

11 ай бұрын

I'd go a step further and say what he said really resonated with me that it didn't matter if they were just characters- they're alive. The characters in TV shows, movies, videogames, anime, and manga all might as well be as real as you and me.

Who could not love a DnB track with live drumming and not just a looped Amen break? You don't hear that nearly enough in this kind of music.

Remember that there was once an assasin named Alice

@NoMoreSuperHero

8 жыл бұрын

+The Lazy Reaper .....Who?

@balder7810

8 жыл бұрын

+Amateur Intellectual God damn it.

@CrickettoSantalune

5 жыл бұрын

I won't forget it... Alice...

@MeowthRocket

5 жыл бұрын

I won't forget..... Alice.

@_TravisTouchdown

5 жыл бұрын

I haven't forgotten.

I love how hallow this song is, reflecting on how Alice is already dead on the inside and you're actually doing her a favor by laying her to rest.

@lowhp_comic

2 жыл бұрын

She even starts the fight by burning her album/past, she's got nothing left in the world except for this fight

I wouldn't use the term pretentious here, but I do agree Alice Twilight would've made a better final boss than Jasper. Alice fits into the main themes of the NMH series, where once you're in the competition there's no escape besides death. In my head, I would picture it like this. Jasper is dead. Sylvia approaches Travis and suggests he "might as well" fight for number 1. Cue Alice, with the same sullen speech about how the only way for her to escape her rank #1 status is to be killed.

@Kaisogen

3 жыл бұрын

@Atla Sona the point of the rankings in the first game was to give Travis the strength to fight Jeane. He started as this cocky idiot that was far in over his head, and mostly ended up the same way but stronger at least. But Travis didn't win here. He already had the power to kill Batt. Over half of the competition were eliminated all at once, and even the few targets he had left? Others killed for him. The rankings were literally pointless because he didn't work at all. The only one that even makes remotely any sense is Letz Shake because without saving Henry, Travis probably would have died. Every other death was pointless other than to server his feelings. And that's what makes Margaret's song so important: she straight up calls him out on wanting revenge because it does nothing but repeat the cycle.

@Kaisogen

3 жыл бұрын

@Atla Sona yeah but the boss fight didn't have to fucking suck to drive the point home.

@LatteSoul3603

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like the part where Alice is a better final boss than Jasper brings up a cool idea. If you decide to take her advice and do what the game shows is a good idea, which is quitting there, then the game ends with a satisfying, powerful ending, as well as a good boss and have Travis break the cycle of revenge. Alternatively, if you ignore her warnings and instead decide to fight jasper, you are left with a disappointing and frustrating experience, similar to seeking revenge. So I guess quitting after Alice is an ending in itself, and is one that the game seems to accept as the good ending, given that you could probably have the end credits roll after the cutscene where Alice dies, before the "you are now rank 2" screen, and still have the story make as much sense as it did before. Alternatively, continuing to Jasper is the bad ending, one where you and Travis ignore her advice and instead restart the cycle in a unfulfilling way. In other words... if Alice was the final boss, and Jasper was an extra boss, the game would have its cake and eat it too. At least, that's my opinion.

@gold_spin1639

3 жыл бұрын

That would have honestly made the build up even more interesting. If the guy who killed bishop is only rank 2, who the hell is rank 1? The answer, an assassin with nothing left to lose. No grudges to hold, no righteous cause, just a pure blooded killer waiting for someone to put her to rest.

@JG_DeadColor

Жыл бұрын

Congrats. outstanding concept You may be a good Suda succesor ...

The tension between the rhythm section and the airy ephemeral melodies is wrenching and I love it. It's like every second of the song goes by slowly.

Having finished NMH2 today, I can definitely say Alice was my favorite boss of everyone. Mostly because she wasn't someone I could needlessly spam against, but also the turmoil you could see in her before she faces you. The music during the fight is a bop too.

Alice: "I was hoping to face you when I became #1" Me: "You and everybody else who had to suffer through that horrible fight with that f****** prick Jasper Batt Jr."

@spoodystk

2 жыл бұрын

As a new fan in the series who fought the dude in mild difficulty... ... I can agree that he was a certified bitch to fight against...

Man I really wish Travis got to know more about some of his opponents. Alice was incredibly interesting and I sorta wanted her to get a larger story like Jeanne.

the piano bits are the best.

@_dFour_

6 жыл бұрын

I love the drums and the base! So energetic.

@flashdr1ve

3 жыл бұрын

its so fucking sexy

I just realized that the piano at 0:37 is sampled from Sur La Mer - Future Loop Foundation, at 2:06. Was a complete jumpscare hearing something I recognize from a suda game in some random synth track on Spotify.

@Stay_ClassyYT

8 ай бұрын

Good catch!

Chills. Every fucking time, chills.

@gavinmahoney5402

8 жыл бұрын

+Here Be Trite I agree, man. The only other track in anything to give me chills this frequently and consistently is Scorch N' Torch.

@tailsthefoxisawsom4162

7 жыл бұрын

nice dkctf ^^

This fight was fucking depressing.

@ashleyy69

2 жыл бұрын

Remember that there was once, an assasin in the name of 'Alice'.

Man what a great final boss. Hmm? No there was definently no boss after this Alice was the final boss

@flukenchrome9259

4 жыл бұрын

Why did the final stage not have a final boss?

@64supermarioreturns

3 жыл бұрын

You didn't fight the window?

@Reoko77

3 жыл бұрын

@@64supermarioreturns we as fans don't talk about that window. Fuck that window.

@reimuhakureiforsmash6115

3 жыл бұрын

I wish

@wimberlen

2 жыл бұрын

exactly that, alice is supposed to be the final boss. like she says, end the cycle of revenge. dont fight jasper, it will be unsatisfying and you wont feel any more gratified than before.

The Crownless King and The Hollow Queen. Both were looking for a means to end their pain, both fought honourably and had their own values. In the end, the curse of the Hollow Queen is what wakes the Crownless King after he struck her down. The weight of all of those who came before come to light, rising like the sun during twilight before sunrise. Awakened finally to the truth, but at the cost of the only other who understood what it all meant. Such is the curse.

@DylanBelievesInTheNet

2 жыл бұрын

I need a cigarette after reading that, beautiful.

@smoqueed44

2 жыл бұрын

Autism.

@MyxMage

2 жыл бұрын

@@smoqueed44 k

@smoqueed44

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyxMage was def cringe tho amirite?

@MyxMage

2 жыл бұрын

@@smoqueed44 nah

I was fighting against Alice Twilight two days ago and I thought I lost the fight with one piece of the heart left and yet I somehow survive and defeated her, her boss fight was like looking into a mirror because she fights exactly like Travis minus the part that she can throw her beam katanas at him. Such an amazing yet tragic boss fight.

Akira Yamaoka is such a genius.

The drum and bass in this track is ridiculous

I don't know why people are making up names for this song, if you bought the game it's listed in the manual, It's called subuta 1 by Machine Head

@ShaDHP23

4 жыл бұрын

I (unintentionally) started the trend. Back in 2012 I got the game used without the manual, so I could only go by ear. I guess everyone took it as a meme contest to come up with an alternate name for the boss tracks. Even knowing all the music by name now, Subuta No. 1 will always be "Ask Alice" to me (plus my name is Alice, so I'm a little biased, I'll admit).

@shibba2517

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShaDHP23 *SUBUTA NOT "SUBATA"

@ShaDHP23

4 жыл бұрын

@@shibba2517 okay, take a chill suppository

@flipcamgamer

3 жыл бұрын

I saw on the top 25 boss themes video from some years ago that called this theme Twilight

@MrVince329

3 жыл бұрын

Machine Head is also Akira Yamaoka under an alias

It's a weird cross between an intense fight and elevator music.

@Hue5366

2 жыл бұрын

And a little bit of the code lyoko ost

Best boss theme ever. Best boss in the No More Heroes series.

@alicetwilight5869

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@DR-XV

4 жыл бұрын

Henry: are you sure about that?

If only she was the Final Boss.

@alicetwilight5869

8 жыл бұрын

But Travis needed to realise that what he was doing was pointless.

@nesoukkefka1741

8 жыл бұрын

Alice Twilight Yeah but common this would have been Travis accomplish his goal only to realise that it was pointless and he was just brutally murdering peoples for nothing and his revenge has no sense at all this would have been a so much better end and a so much better Final Boss than Jasper Fucker Jr

@burritowyrm6530

7 жыл бұрын

Nesouk Kefka Jasper's window was the real villain

@oriannarica

7 жыл бұрын

Burrito Wyrm A G R E E

@metalkirby777

5 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? She was the final boss. There is no boss after her. Nothing happens. NOTHING. HAPPENS. THE WINDOW! THE FUCKING WINDOW! AAAAAAAAUUUGH!

The subtitle of the game works well for the song. "Desperate Struggle." "The Bitter End" also goes well imo.

@gavinmahoney5402

8 жыл бұрын

+Shinku Quickman Ooh, The Bitter End is fucking AMAZING. Well, it would be, if she was one. We don't speak of her.... replacement.

I don't recall this track yet it is one of the finest pieces of VGM composition I've heard. Akira Yamaoka GODLIKE composer

ive never played this game but i love this mix of dnb and jazz it sounds awesome

0:59 best part

One of my favorite bosses in this game so fun to battle especially on bitter

@burritowyrm6530

7 жыл бұрын

Kyle Catarroja "fun"

@freetoplayking7362

6 жыл бұрын

well it is a bitter fight to the end i'll get my coat

@crabwaluigi

4 жыл бұрын

It is fun boy jasper batt jr 2nd form is when its get frustrating on bitter

If I were to title this song, I'd call it "Awakening", by the fact that this battle was the last key to Travis realizing the truth.

@MetalDialga1998

10 жыл бұрын

It would be cool to call it that, even though its title is Subuta.1

@CubicIRONBROW

4 жыл бұрын

the truth you say?

@ashleyy69

2 жыл бұрын

That truth he killed so many for, even if a possible serial killer, a sociopathic pyschopath, he is human. All assasins are human underneath. And deep inside, every each one of them would wish for anything else but killing... Even Travis. At THIS point he realized the 'truth' you speak of.

Marluxia has appeared.

@ayandanxumalo9699

9 жыл бұрын

Fun fact. Marluxia was going to be a woman until they changed his gender.

@zombyjano

9 жыл бұрын

Didn't his gender get changed so that th two traitors weren't women or something simaller to that?

@ayandanxumalo9699

9 жыл бұрын

Mauricio Martinez Yeah. They felt it would be a little weird if two women betrayed Organization XIII and got killed. Unfortunate implications and all.

@zombyjano

9 жыл бұрын

Well regardless of gender,Marluxia will always look majestic.

@thecoffeeshophey

8 жыл бұрын

So basically Alice is A fusion between Marluxia and General Grievous.

I've always called it "Rainy Twilight", because I never played the game so I always pictured the battle being in the rain at night.

By far, the most underated music track in all of the games

Anyone else want a game where you play as her? And maybe Margaret Moonlight too while we're at it?

@LinkmeetsMario

7 жыл бұрын

Scorpionspear77 Definitely. So we can all remember there one was an assassin named Alice. I'd at least like some side content about her.

@mooganify

5 жыл бұрын

There’s a low res JPG of the stuff she was burning and one of them was her and Margaret together so there has to be something there. It’s on the wiki. But you’d never see unless you purposely looked for the assets, maybe that’s why they did it.

@NIHIL_EGO

5 жыл бұрын

We're going to get a DLC with Bad Girl, so why not ?

@userperkingmacbeth6715

5 жыл бұрын

I’d be down. Margaret was my favorite boss.

@TheDuduzinhobr

Жыл бұрын

I'd do everything for a Margaret Moonlight game ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

_Oh my..._

@Primbell

8 жыл бұрын

I heard you were half-off on today's sale. So I decided to make a stupid response in stead of buying you because I'm poor.

@alicetwilight5869

8 жыл бұрын

You deserve a +1.

@DylanJo123

6 жыл бұрын

364Tomorrows Hey yooooo

@biggun8801

5 жыл бұрын

best girl spotted

@saysaythegreat

3 жыл бұрын

Dammit Takei!

blessed amen break

this sounds like it would belong in a SEGA game

I played this game two times but in those two times, Alice´s dead is something that make you cry in some deep emotional level

It's both intense and relaxing.

The piano segements give me Mistral from MGR vibes I can see Platinum taking notes from Alice

@gechotaris

2 жыл бұрын

i've played and beat both NMH1+2 and MGR and thought they were both similar, i feel like platinum was insipired by NMH2 a bit for armstrong, notice how in the 1st phase of jasper, he fights with a mech, then once he gets out of it he uses some powers (drugs i know i know) to power up, and notice how 1st phase of armstrong hes in a mech, then uses powers (nanomachines) to get strong

@Pussyrepelent

Жыл бұрын

@@gechotaris I never noticed that. Both MGR and NMH1+2 have a theme of killing as well. And are both hack and slashes. And both have vocal tracks for boss themes (a couple for nmh in tho case)

@gechotaris

Жыл бұрын

@@Pussyrepelent Mmhm!! i honestly think MGR was just a little inspired from NMH2

Best fight in the series and one of my favourite fights in gaming

6:19 still hits so different.

the closer you are to number one the more you realize, no wonder bad girl is such a mess

Mature version of Philistine

Love this song The melodies are so smooth and jazzy vibes

I'm a little surprised that nobody's sampled this.

So I was browsing the loop gallery in Garage Band a few days ago and I heard a sample called 'Contemplative Synth 14' and it souns nearly identical to the sample at 2:37 . I'm wondering if this whole song is made in Garage Band or if SUDA51 just liked the sample and took it or if it's just pure coincidence that they sound the same.

@alejandromomota6934

Жыл бұрын

It’s a sample

Because she was in the way of revenge. Without Jasper dangling at the #1 spot, there would have been no reason to kill Alice.

I actually found this after watching your playthrough. I have the main OST can couldn't find this one on there either.

I think part of the reason I love this song is because it defies genre.

I love whistling to the piano parts

My favorite bonus boss character from the ps3 port of nmh 1 and also, my favorite penultimate boss character in nmh2.

I always called this bloodshed and tears. Not sure why but it felt like it would work.

This is probably my favorite Boss fight in both games.

This is the hypest track in gaming history.

i heard smile of split and i was so confused

Track is Subuta.1

I'm calling this track ¨was it worth the kill?¨

@ayandanxumalo9699

9 жыл бұрын

Or rather "Was it worth it?"

Alice was the final boss and no one can tell me otherwise.

Either "The Lonliest Composition" or "Fates Brought To Rest."

The english version is so much better thank you. This is fantastic

my favorite theme out of all of them

This song brings me back to when I first did this fight. It took me like 20 fucking minutes and I just BARELY beat Alice. One of my favorite boss fights in recent memory.

One of my favorite boss fights of all time, such a shame that JBJ leaves such a bad taste in your mouth at the end of the game because this fight is as close to perfect as a video game boss fight can be

Sounds like something out of System Shock 2

Sunset's Awakening. That's what I'd call it.

My fav parts: 0:38-1:00 1:22-1:32. 2:18 are basically same as the first. 2:40-2:50 Another slightly altered 0:38 section at 3:46 4:18 I like the little beat. 4:30 is similar to an earlier part. 5:15

love how ranks in Both games are filled with people with actual motivations and total scumbags. Mashing them together and making them look like the same trash to the outsider eye meanwhile themselves knew the true meaning of their actions staying true to themselves to the end. Why this game inspires me to always come up with _deep stuff_ ?

@jiroweiler5883

6 жыл бұрын

ThePreciousThing too much internet or anime

@aleph7056

5 жыл бұрын

@@jiroweiler5883 I mean, you act like anime or internet making people think introspectivly about media is a bad thing.

I'd call it "The True Ending"

@themurderersfolley5995

8 жыл бұрын

"What could have been" "Last Assasian" "Finale"

@alicetwilight5869

8 жыл бұрын

What about... "Her name"

@themurderersfolley5995

8 жыл бұрын

nice

@EduardoPerez-kh2uh

8 жыл бұрын

This battle would be truly better then the *Cough* actual last one *Cough* Not that it was bad

Since everyone else is doing it as well... Custom Song Name: Out With a Whimper

@MrTouchShriek Subata.2 is matt helms and ryuji theme, this theme name is subata.1

I know it's called "Subuta 1" but in my heart its named "Alice"

Me: Well, she has a amazing final boss... Sylvia: Congratulations, now you're become 2nd Me: WHAAAAAAAT!!! Alice isnt the final boss, the who the hell is?? *after fighting Jasper Batt Jr.* Me: Seriously... WHO THE HELL HAVE THE IDEA OF THIS GODANMIT ANNOYING BOSS!!! *rage quit*

Alternate take on the ending 1: Travis fights someone else as rank 2, then scales Batt tower, only to find jasper already dead, Alice the new rank 1. Alternate take on the ending 2: after defeating Alice, the game ends, the rank 1 fight uncertain, the outcome unclear.

This fight in particular... is kind of a workout. She moves so damn fast!

would be my favorite boss if she wasn't so easy... to be fair, most bosses in the game aren't very hard, but i managed to get like 25% health combos on her by dodging her body slam and smacking her for a while. very, very quick fight. definitely up there in my favorites, though!

This part gose hard 0:58

swanky, I still haven't forgotten that assassin named Alice

Close second favorite, Margot Moonlight's is still my favorite.

So badass!

Thinking along the lines of "one mind" or "blind now I see"

Smooth jazz on the class walk way-Alice

"Now that! That was a battle!" A CHALLENGER APPROACHES; JASPER BAT F$&@$&@ Jr.! "Fuck......"

Isn't this track just called Subuta. 1?

Deceiving Satisfaction.

"Crimson Twilight"!

I'd call this track Epiphany

The bass is kind of quiet but very satisfying

This game needs a remake and a shift in boss order BAD! It's way too good to just keep collecting dust and I'm pretty sure it would be done justice on the Switch

@qwertygutierrez1293

3 жыл бұрын

You saw the news?

@DjShini

3 жыл бұрын

@@qwertygutierrez1293 Nah, is it good news?!?

@maxbreaker

3 жыл бұрын

@@DjShini no more heroes 1 and 2 are now released on the switch as well as nmh3 coming out in 2021

And Kojima said he didn't want to do a sequel to Metal Gear Solid 2. You think I think game developers always tell the truth?

It's because this one is labeled incorrectly, the real track name is "Subuta.1," which is track 38. Subuta.2 is pretty baller, too.

Did anyone else get startled the first time they heard this and that booming organ came in?

That bass slaps

If only Alice was the final boss and not freaking Jasper.

"Best of the Best" or "Blade Dance"

It took me a while to beat her than I found her attack patterns

This gives me some Sonic Colours vibes that I can't explain, totally love it

@DatBoiRatchet

2 жыл бұрын

sonic colors trash tho

I'd call this theme: Somber Dream.

is this not on the main ost? Can't find it.

I CALL IT ''PURE EPIKK''

heard it somewhere and I wasn't seaching for it even now yet suprised that it's so good