No Jointer? No problem! Do you Even Need One? | Woodworking Tip
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How to edge joint and face joint boards without a jointer using a simple sled.
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Thanks for watching! I've make a playlist of my favorite woodworking projects: kzread.info/head/PLhqK_8dnaIW3V6a66AdyRI9DJUZwCSm83
But I have no planer and no table saw either.
@lochavenwoodworks6578
3 жыл бұрын
Karate chop
@SenselessUsername
3 жыл бұрын
Do you in fact have no wood either?
@Andrew-ih2gz
3 жыл бұрын
@@SenselessUsername I have diesel fuel and a camping lighter. Does that count?
@SenselessUsername
3 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-ih2gz You're halfway there, you can trade for firewood which you might exchange for palletwood or similarly straight-ish bits and bobs.
@someguyontheinternet-
3 жыл бұрын
All right. Then get me an avocado, an ice pick and my snorkel. Trust me, bro. I've made bongs with less. Hurry up!
Nice job on this video David. I love how you drilled down on making this woodworking fundamental task approachable to more people who may have thought they needed a jointer, or even just needed a bigger jointer. Using a sled is a great alternative to a 12”+ jointer, that is for sure
Finally! I knew you couldn't plane a board without making it flat first, but I never really understood the reason why until now. Thanks!
Thanks David for the 2 free months of skill share I'm getting into woodworking and this will definitely help. Great video of not using a jointer as I do not have one yet.
David, thanks so much for this! I've seen other woodworking KZreadrs explain how to make a jointing jig - but this is by far the best illustration/ explanation of the why/ how it works. Also, I really appreciate how you've shown us a couple different hold down options. Thanks for doing what you do! ☺️
@MakeSomething
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@timdiamond1056
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, I've watched some pretty complicated explanations for this process. This was simple, straight forward and easy for me to replicate. Cheers
I love the idea of using the miter slots on the tablesaw for the jig eliminating the need for the fence. Thanks!
made this last week and it was a super easy to make and have used it several times in the past week and is now my go to jig when starting any project. Thank you for sharing.
Always Love watching you Brother. Pick up something every time. I was just talk to my wife about one of your videos that I can’t seem to find again. You was explaining how to put a price to a particular item you built.
David, I really love your enthusiasm on camera.
I definitely like your table saw sled with the clamp method and those clamps. I was using a piece of thick metal and screwing into the wood, this will save time and eliminate going into the wood. Awesome planing techniques. Thanks for sharing your amazing knowledge with the community!
This was a great video. Thank you for taking the time to make it. You've shown some great work-arounds.
Thank you for this. I have seen many overly functional and over complicated jigs that achieve the same results. Love this one and I love it semplicità and budget outlook.
great Video David ! Thanks for teaching so enthusiastic and encouraging I have also used hot glue in place of sandpaper on the sled
you are a natural teacher and very entertaining. thanks for the great content
Thats the best video Ive seen for demystifying the process for all of the Non-jointer owners out there. Great job!
@MakeSomething
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
This video will make a big difference and improvement for my shop and productivity. Thank you for sharing and for the inspiration!
Ahaha! I love the woodworkers take on dropping the mic! Thanks for not pulling a Tom Brady mic throw! Lol Love the energy that you bring to your videos!
"You can feel the suction. What is that called, Dan?" "Suction" haha love it! Great videos.
@christofix
5 жыл бұрын
that made me laugh real hard too!
@1pcfred
5 жыл бұрын
I think it is related to the Van der Waals force. And yeah I suppose most folks aren't going to just whip that off the tops of their heads.
the cleanest wood shop I've ever seen (nice dust system) :)
This is the BEST video on jointing without a jointer! Best ever!
Great video! Just the simple description of the purpose of the Planer versus the Joiner was worth watching.
Apart from the fact that video is informative, your shop is so clean i mean its unreal.
Great video, I teach high school woodshop and one tool that takes a lot of practice is the joiner. I like these two ideas
Thanks David. A simple sled that just works. The dual purpose is a big plus. I’ve put off getting a jointer due to space & cost. Getting ready to make a Maloof style rocker and will put this sled to work. You do have an impressive shop. Almost as good as your Grandsd’s! His has ambience.
Great video. Thank you for making it so clear and concise!
Thanks Dan! You guys are killing it.
I'm planning on giving my brother my old lunch box planer at some point, and when I do he'll get a link to this video as well. Thanks for the best video on how to straighten a board without a jointer, I've seen yet.
I love the t tracks in it, gonna modify my sled with this. Solves the issues I usually have. Thanks Dave!
@u2bScrnName
4 жыл бұрын
Seems to me one could also use a t-track to address the short end first/last question by having a 'fixed' block on the leading end and a center mount t-track with a low profile block to securely hold the board in place (along the feed axis at least). . Throw in a few angle marks and this becomes a trifecta super tool for those of us with only a table saw and a planer.
Using sand paper is brilliant! Don't have to worry about hot gluing or taping your shims down like I have seen other people do. Thanks for sharing!
the best explanation I've ever heard about getting a square board and parallel sides.
Awesome video and great way to go without a jointer. I would also add that this method is way better than any bench top jointer especially for longer or heavier pieces. I have an 8in spiral bench top jointer and it gets me through in a pinch...but a floor standing even 6in would have been better to save up for. With a jointer it's all about that bed length, then cut width and spiral head. Also, the hardwood dealer option can be very economical as well. My local place will straight line ripping one edge for $25 up to 250bf, they will plane and sand thickness to your spec for $50 up to 250bf as well. When considering the time to mill 150bf myself for a big dining table..no way, I now pick it up ready to start using from them and save myself a day or more.
Muito bom esse vídeo, agora entendi a diferença entre as máquinas, Ótima dica!
Awesome video man! I used the sled tonight to plane some boards and it worked perfectly. Thanks for posting
Gracias amigo es una estupenda plantilla resulta muy útil en cualquier taller!
A number of years ago I saw an article in I believe it was Fine Woodworking of how to make a sled for the planer. It was quite complicated with bungie cords and wedges. I made mine similar to yours. However, I used 3/4 MDF which makes it heavy. I like the idea of using the adhesive sandpaper. Thanks for the tips I'm sure I'll be incorporating some of these.
Will definitely have to come back in the next month or so and rewatch this. I'm VERY close to upgrading my table saw and getting a planer. Having a jig like this would essentially pay for itself just in the money saved by postponing the jointer purchase!
Okay, now I've changed my mind, I need a planer first! Awesome tutorial David, can't wait to try it out
@TEXAS-SMITH
5 жыл бұрын
I had that dilemma and got the planer first and I sit idle looking at the stacked, bowed, curved, tree the lumber yard happily delivered free for hardly nothing because I can't do anything with it. It was a great price for a LOT but put as coal wood and undesireable for a reason. I am self teaching and I have learned hardly nothing with injury from using saws for other things, possible lung issue from throwing cheap masks to the side, and...no creative imagination to use what I do have to create something. With all of that information being said it only does one thing. It shows I have at LEAST the wisdom to say with great authority- first ask yourself what wood will you be using MOST ( such as plywood, lumber, chipwood, MDF etc ) and if its heavy duty dining tables from solid lumber...such as in my driveway...get that jointer or you will never get anything together. Just trust me on that. The jointer is your right hand for boards! Now that planer I decided was more important HAS enabled me to clean old worthless looking planks. de nailed from extreme pallets built to like, deliver large items like sofas then never used again. I have what seemed was likely split and rotted oak 4x4 planks appx. 10 feet long I pulled apart 2 years ago and decided to see what the planer would do to shed that nasty it had all but grown seemed like and i just finished the most heavy duty bed frame with it with small 11 inch posts for feet to enable more storage. It is a beast! It wasn't oak though. The whole time it was so dirty the planar hit a red knot and that wonderful pine smell lightened my mood! 3 inch thick wood perfect fit to box spring and FANTASTIC solid sleep! Very very nice clean up without spending a fortune and half your life by sanding it off. That is a VERY fast wood clean up over sanding then one orbital sand pad to it instead of 50 of them saves money! I have never used any "plies" on anything but my table saw.and circular saw. MDF, table saw. Boards need a jointer or I wouldn't try to glue the sides together unless they are level already. I seem to have more need for a jointer. Food i guess for thought. GET THE JOINTER
@marshallmurrell4583
5 жыл бұрын
@@TEXAS-SMITH I have a planer, but no jointer. I learned how to flatten a board with a handplane before sending it through the planer, although a planer sled is much easier. I also have a home built version of the Rockler tapering jig with which I a can get one straight edge. The other edge is easy on the table saw. The edges are easier than flattening a complete face. Therefore, I favor having the planer first. I still don't have a jointer, although it might save some time.
Thanks so much for this. One of the most important tasks to learn when starting to take on woodworking, make sure you know how to square up up your lumber.
I like the idea, I was watching for a different reason, a jointer cuts slots over here and so I was a little confused when you pointed at a surface planer, it's nice to come across an idea just by chance!
Dude! So timely! I just found a cheap thickness planer... barely have room for that, let alone a jointer! 😅 thanks for the great tips! Inspiring, as always
Great video and great timing - I needed this idea today!! Thanks for sharing!!
Thank you SO much! I have a jointer, but it's a 6" benchtop model, and I needed to joint boards that were 8" wide, and this worked PERFECTLY!!!!
@MakeSomething
3 жыл бұрын
Right on! Glad it worked!
this was exactly what i needed. Thank you!!
Your shop looks so clean!
A couple people have pointed out that the lip of the sled should go through the planer first because of the rotation of the cutting head. In the video I'm putting it through backwards. Thanks to those of you who caught this!
@viluvaboy
5 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Would you say that putting it in backwards would be the reason for the gouging on the end of the board?
@aaronsweeney3763
5 жыл бұрын
@@viluvaboy nope. That's called "snype" and from my understanding you have to have a very VERY fine tuned planner to get no snype. Mine has been doing it since new, but I never tried fixing it, I just cut out the length I need after I plane a long board.
@viluvaboy
5 жыл бұрын
@@aaronsweeney3763 Oh ok that makes sense. Thanks for responding and sharing your wisdom/knowledge! I look forward to trying these techniques.
@ForestWoodworks
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point and better that you posted the edit. I saw the lip go first on another video, but since I'm a noob, I didn't catch it here. Still, entertained and enlightened. Once I get my electrical figured out to where I can actually use the machines I've been gathering, I'll be back for continued instruction. I definitely appreciate your work on providing these tutorials. Thanks man.
@josevillanueva6992
3 жыл бұрын
How about if I don't have planner and jointer. What I do?
Great tips bc I do have a planer and but not a jointer. I do pallet wood art. so what I do is clap a couple boards together on their sides and them put them through the planer. that works good too
Man. Your shop is SUPER clean. I’m jealous.
Thank you David , I will be upgrading my Sled. I never thought of coming my two jigs as one !
This is really good content. Super easy to understand with your explanation. Thanks.
I made this 2 weeks ago and finally got to use it yesterday.... M O N E Y!! Worked perfectly on my lunchbox planer. No snipe at all. It was great!
Love your channel and woodworking information man! Thank you for sharing.
Super video. I’m new to wood working and this helps a lot.. THANKS!!!
Thanks for all your great ideals
That shop is so CLEAN!!!
David, I tried your method on my Dewalt 13" planer on some 8/4 hard maple. It was certainly slower than a dedicated jointer; however, the outcome is just as good. Thanks for a great video for those who just do not have the space for a jointer!😀
it's been 20 yrs since I did screen printing too, I seem to remember the potential for a mess was awesome!
I gave up on this sled jig because of how confusing it was however I’m going to give it another try after seeing this video. Well done simple explanation but effective.
@rendraeky
4 жыл бұрын
@DIY BOSS does it work with your new sled? I also made one but the result was suck for long hardwood made for Long kitchen cabinet table top or thick dining table top due to uneven plywood or soft MDF so I gave up as well and now considering to get a jointer.
thanks for the video. Keep it up I have enjoyed your videos for a long time.
nice setup, good to see someone using a table saw correctly with the riving knife installed.
@ianplant6330
3 жыл бұрын
But no Crown Guard!
Love your workshop setup man
Love your dust collection set up
This was very clear, thank you!!
Good to see you teaching new dogs old tricks. I got along without a jointer for some years. Now that I have one, I wouldn't go back!
Great video!! Such a simple fix for those those can’t invest in a full shop of tools!!
Dude, great skills, great hi-fi equipment, great guitar. Rock on!
Several great tips, we're going to put them to good use. Those darn trees just don't want to grow straight these days! Another great and informative video, thank you!
Awesome! That’s exactly what I was looking for.
Great no nonsense. Thanks!
I really like the sandpaper alternative to using hotglue! Thanks for this!
Love this video! so simple but so effective at the same time!
@MakeSomething
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
By Far my favorite online woodworker informative fun practical.
Great video. Thanks amigo
beautifully done
Hello David ... it's been a long time since I've been on the site. It was good to hear your voice again. I still don't have a jointer and I just knew you would have The Mother Jig of all jointer substitute jigs. You didn't dissapoint. As always, thanks much for the great ideas as well as fun to watch videos. Take care and stay safe .... Cheers, Dave
Great tips, David.
GREAT VIDEO
Great content here! Really helps us without a jointer!!
@christofix
5 жыл бұрын
or people like me, no place for a jointer 😂😂😂
@firefighter08031995
4 жыл бұрын
Or people like me with no planer either....oh wait. I’m screwed.
Great tips. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Such superb tools
Thanks a lot my good man. I think this and all your videos are fantastic. Keep up the work....
Great knowledge. Thanks mate
I liked the dovetail clamps you used.
Good video. If the board is too big for the planar. I recommend creating a router sled jig. I use it on all of my living edge tables as my bench top planar only accommodates 13"
Wonderful. Thank you.
That's an incredibly useful all in one edge/face jointing tool! :)
Another GREAT show!
Thanks for the video Santa!
Awesome my man. Great use of a single jig.
Nice video. Real tight and to the point! Thanks for sharing. : )
Worked great for me thanks!
Verry fine Idea. Thanks for Video.
Great job David. Enjoyed this one. 👍🏼👁
I like the sandpaper idea
Great , now I need a shop like this
Thank you very much. Very good video
Thanks David!
Gonna be a great weekend!!! Just got your Cutting Boards book off of Amazon! Wow! Very detailed and great pics!!!
@MakeSomething
5 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thanks Randy!
Sigh. I’ll just buy a jointer lol
@nastyrex4302
4 жыл бұрын
I hear that
@michaelchavez1797
4 жыл бұрын
Lol No shit man
@psiclops521
4 жыл бұрын
Buy a No. 5 hand plane and learn how to use it properly. Won't cost you anywhere near as much, won't need as much space for it, and you'll get better results once you get the hang of it. You'll get the hang of it. Won't take that long. Probably take you less time than it will to pay off the jointer.
@eloscuro704
3 жыл бұрын
A decent jointer requires a lot of shop space, something I never have enough of. I once spent $400 for a Jet jointer/planer combo. Total piece of crap. The tables weren't co-planer and not adjustable. A good way to get curved boards. And with this jig, you can flatten wider boards than on a jointer.
@dereklong801
3 жыл бұрын
@@psiclops521 This is the winner, right here.
Thanks Great Tips .