Lowered Expectations, warming the hearts of the world, one diesel heater at a time👍

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

You should write Hallmark cards !

I think I speak for all of us when I say we want to see just how much heat you can force out of this heater just by adding more fuel and spinning the fan faster and faster. Every time I watch one of your videos it seems like my diesel heater is looking worried at me because I do things with the same spirit as you do, just for fun and to see what happens. Loving the videos so far.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

LOL.... your poor heater is going to develop ptsd from watching my videos. I plan on juicing it up and seeing what will happen, but I have a few test to do before I quite possibly destroy it, haha.

@sjococo

5 ай бұрын

And after that we want Joel to convert the heater into a jet engine...

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@sjococo Last winter I was considering building a pulsejet engine / heater...

@bigoldgrizzly

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 Nitro ???

@JohannesBrotBaum

5 ай бұрын

​@@sjococo Joel is evolving from heater science to rocket science

I think your light bulb ballasting was ingenious.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Haha... Thanks I I was pretty proud of it. I sometimes think I amuse myself too easily.

Nice Video! You could have used PWM and used a more high tech dosing system, but then you would have just built another electronic controlled heater.. I love your low tech control system, and your explanation of it, (I am an electronics geek, so I got it anyway)... You have proven how basic these things actually are. You have also demystified these heaters totally for me, in a few videos... I wonder no more. Thanks Heaps!!!

I don’t blame Tesla for not understanding the American humor. When I heard you cracking the joke, I was sold for a few seconds 😂. Joke aside, many congratulations 👏👏👏 for the successful test and run of world’s first diesel heater without the ECU! There you go, ironically, yours again is the world’s first true 8kW heater 😉! Your enthusiasm and perseverance have made you into a good experimentalist. As in a welder, synergetic control is what makes the diesel heater burn clean. If you run it manually, you will be slightly above or below the optimum point which is totally acceptable if you are in an emergency situation. The ECU is not totally useless. I’m sure the R&D guys had done similar experiments like yours to come up with the most safest and optimal air fuel ratio and more. What people can also learn from your experiment is that they can now fine tune the most optimal air fuel ratio (therefore heat) by manually controlling the pump frequency and fan speed (with or without an ECU), and constantly monitoring the CO and CO2 at the exhaust. To avoid melting the detector, the hot exhaust gas perhaps must be neutralized first in a bucket of water.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Haha... thanks for the congrats !! Yes.... that's right... if you do this manually, you will always be chasing an acceptable number, but just minutes away from something that is total unacceptable. I'm not actually against electronics or the use of ECUs, haha ... but like you say, this demonstrates a new things that would otherwise be hard to explain to the average person. This all started because several people claimed that these required energetic fuel injection to operate.... so I ran it without a pump.

Impressive heat coming from the exhaust. Now can try and reclaim some of it. If you have a 2nd heater unit, gut it and then run exhaust from the 1st burning unit into the intake of the 2nd non burning unit and then out the 2nd unit exhaust as usual. Then pipe in the air in and out into your house like on the 1st unit. Light off the 1st unit fan going then turn fan on the 2nd unit maybe setting 1, 1 light bulb. The 2nd unit will be acting as an exhaust heat exchanger. Great series! Someone has to do it!!

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

That is quite a bit of heat loss ... and I have some tests planned.... also this kzread.info/dash/bejne/eJ1_pNidqdWwptI.html haha.

@mp5778

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, I missed that video.

Well - that is all the ECU makers out of work ;

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

🤣😂🤣 My evil plan is coming together !!! Muwaahahaha !!

@tcmtech7515

5 ай бұрын

They're all useless political hire hacks that needed to be fired anyway.

Now there's dedication. I love what you do that idea with the jugs and the hose and genius. I just love it. And at 4:10 your cat like reflexes or scaredy cat? I'm not sure which one to say was hilarious. Looking forward to your next video. Always a pleasure. Take care

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. The jug idea works really well, eh ! Mess around with things long enough and you learn. I was waiting for the fuse to pop in my meter, so when the clap popped off the wire and made a spark sound ... I thought my test was over... scaredy cat, for sure.

Wish I had something witty to say, so instead I will be silly once again, two jugs is better than one ; ) Awesome idea!

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

You seen that guy on youtube from Canada... Jugs the size of your head !

@bigoldgrizzly

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 I used to know a Canadian lass with jugs the size of your head , but a bit embarrassing on a fella.........

You crushed me when you killed the ice cave... Until you fixed it... You've been redeemed. Lol. Very good video Joel. ❤️ 👍

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Haha... Like a drunk guy walking on the beach, busting kids sand castles !! ... I'm glad I redeemed myself !! haha.

I run one of my 8kw Vevor heaters at level setting 1, from 9AM~Midnight (15 hrs) a day, every day. I use a 5 Gal jerry jug. I go 8 days between fillup's. I have been doing this for 3 month's now.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

That's great ! There are lots of people out there with similar stories to yours. Thanks for sharing.

@tcmtech7515

5 ай бұрын

My 8 KW burns about 5 gallons a day at max setting. It heats a 20 x 36 garage well but I don't like that the controller does not have an actual real thermostat function. What it has is useless because it appears to just be the same 1 to 10 manual mode settings but with fake temperature numbers that have nothing to do with the room temp.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@tcmtech7515 Can you make a video about your heater. I've never seen one that will consume that much fuel in a day. The controllers are annoying in that way. The new Bluetooth model has a feature that turns it on and off and you can also get a Bureck CD Thermostat tha twill shut your heater of and turn it on at set temperatures.

@thegrimreaper7777

5 ай бұрын

Which controller do you have and where is it in the garage? Is it set to temperature mode? Imhave the blue controller on mine and it works well in temperature mode, though the setting /measurement is a few degrees off from actual measured with a thermometer. The sensor is at the bottom of the controller. It needs to be at about head height.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@thegrimreaper7777 What is this in response to ? Are you asking me a question or someone who posted a comment.... I'm really confused.

Im surprised no one has approached you for your scientific skills as I think your are a good physicists and overall good scientist..

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Despite my poor attendance in school.... I was taken on many science trips with the smart kids 🤟

thanks for the hard work testing!

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment ! I appreciate it.

@dptp9lf

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 i live in calgary as well so i know what you’ve been going through. I recently bought a vevor 5k and it works great but now i need to get a battery that will run it through the night about 8 hrs in my truck. I would like to use lithium but don’t think it would like the cold. I would use a dc/dc charger to charge battery through the day. Any thoughts?

You hit the nail on the head in another video by saying these heaters are just basically fancy candles and I agree all the way. Its a fuel and wick set up.. Some people think the fuel is sprayed under pressure which is just nonsense..

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

A fancy, well engineered candle, haha.

Finally! I've been waiting for this video! My solar isn't up yet but I still need heat.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what not having solar and this video have to do with each other, but great ! haha.

Very interesting. Great stuff!

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks !

great video mate

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thank you !

In the part on your thoughts every thing you said about drip feed was exactly the same conclusion I came to with the waist oil burners I made. After getting a diesel heater running from a old mini bus I'm convinced using some of the tec to run a WOB is the answer

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Yeah... I feel like this is a great idea... I currently have 1 idea I hope to try real soon with a diesel heater and waste oil, and a second plan to build a waste oil heater with diesel heater parts and a propane cylinder.

@colinhamer6506

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 this is very similar to what I had kzread.infoePyAbA1c6w8?si=qnL-x8YQXUlfgmOg and this is kind of what I want to try but with more control using diesel heater parts

@colinhamer6506

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqmkprmCcdrcqqQ.htmlsi=SSO3gxxfqXffmGzi

Seems kinda expensive to run Unless can mix used filtered oil with the Diesel . That would cost roughly $10 per day to run here in Pennsylvania as Diesel locally is $5 + per gallon .

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Yes... it can add up really quickly, but I suppose it depends what you are comparing it to. It would cost me about $375 a month and I would have to have two of these going to keep me warm so more like $750 a month. From my experience, and from talking to several others, filtered oil does not work. It will clog up your burn chamber in just a few days.

OH......i LOL'd at the 'advertiser disclosure!!!! Interesting experiment.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

KZread is getting insane with its censorship... I have no idea what I said wrong in this response, but this is the 5th or 6th comment that I have had deleted today... I responded to you earlier, but apparently what I said wasn't ok. I thought that was pretty amusing... I'm pretty sure most people didn't get my sense of humor.

Excellent video man :) Have you thought about creating a constant head tank to feed the dripper? This could be achieved with a simple mechanical float switch arrangement down-stream of the main holding tanks. In this way the head would be constant regardless of how much fuel is left in the main tanks :)

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks ! I have considered this. Unfortunately for me, my mind always wanders to a strange place, haha. What I was thinking is building a tank that was on a balance beam (teeter totter). The idea being that the counter weight and leverage arm would be calibrated to keep the fuel level constant. As the level drops, the weight decreases, so the tank goes higher ... Your idea is much more sane.

I think I may have solved the fuel feed issue with variations in dropping level. I could be totally wrong but how about a FLOAT in the tank with the fuel line attached in a way where it stays below surface. Run the hose to the bottom and out of the tank.ziptie a few small weights to the line so it always stays below the intake end as it curls up with slack as the level drops.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I was about to say "you solved it" when I heard "float" .... you would want to do this like a toilet float with a valve. As the level lowers in your feed container, a float opens a valve adding fuel and maintaining that level. The problem with your original idea, is that the pressure is determined by the height of the fuel line. The higher it is, the more pressure.

Keep up the stupid, silly, funny and good work bud ✌️! I love it! ❤😍❤

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Haha... thanks !!!

Wow pretty wild how little change in the drip rate can affect it!

@loweredexpectations4927

3 ай бұрын

Definitely not the idea situation. Things can get out of hand in a hurry.

@reubenk7331

3 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 Certainly a cool experiment though!

so my idea of no electronics works perfectly fine as i thought it would very handy to know now to find a webasto water heater out of a range rover and have hot water to a house rad or multiple

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Yes.... it does in fact work !

I suppose you're using some anti-freezing additive to the diesel. Is this true? Great video as usual. I love your channel so much! :) This is real hacking :)

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I think our diesel comes with an additive, because the temp is often below gelling ... I haven't had any issue.

@asbestomolesto

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 True! that make sense :)

Eskimo's would love to have one of these, an automatic iglo maker! This may surprise you, if you used 8 litres of fuel over 23 hours on average it burns at 3.5 killowatts.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I would love to actually make an igloo with one... that would be awesome. I did realize that the average didn't make sense.... but after about 6 attempts at trying to explain myself I just gave up and said that.... I didn't keep track of the time very well for the second day, and it was 20 - 23 hours, and the fuel was more like 8.5 - 9 litres. This explanation started with me talking about how at one point it was making 270C and the lowes I saw was 190... and because the fan speed was constant this means it was capable of making a lot more heat than with the ECU, haha.... When you see different angles at the ending, that isn't for artistic expression, 🤣... that is because I will literally have 10 clips where I screw up, so when I finally have a clip that I'm happy with, I change camera angle so that I can find that clip when uploading / editing.

@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr

5 ай бұрын

Well at 250c air output it's still hot. 3.5 kw is quite a lot of energy, I think the old mopeds of the 70's used 3.5kw 49cc engines and you could tweak them to go 40 mph This is what annoys me though with the Chinese and their downright lies they use for selling their stuff. The funny thing is though, they steal designs and make things as cheap as they can get away with and won't last as long as good engineering, so we copy their design throw all the crap away and make them better! They lie about EVERYTHING! I bought a stereo amplifier from China stating it was rated at 300 watts per channel. Turns out it couldn't even push 30 watts in reality. Lol over the camera angles, yeh I know what you mean, I find it very difficult to make coherent videos and my narration is terrible, but I am slowly starting to re-upload my videos from when I started to make oil burners. I have made several types, but really only uploading them for history rather than promoting what I'm doing. videos, so be warned if you do decide to watch any some will be terribly boring.😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫@@loweredexpectations4927

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

​@@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr Haha... yes... this is a real problem. It isn't just the Chinese, but it is a huge problem with them. The market ends up getting flooded with false promises, and then honest companies can't afford to operate. Every company making a vacuum cleaner claims that it is 3hp or 5 hp.... No ! No it's not, and that's not possible! If you are plugged into a 15 amp circuit and are running 120 V, the most it can be is about 2.4 hp. I plan on doing a big rant about this. I blame our government for lack of any consumer protection... it's not like this information is top secret and you and I have high level clearance... It is known that this has been happening for decades, and those who are supposed to protect us do nothing. How long do you suppose it would take the Chinese to get their shit in order if our government imposed REAL legislation that punished this type of activity. Meaning "sorry, this container ship can't unload here, the product doesn't meet our import laws" .... If you take a look back at what happened in the 60s, 70s and 80s, when Japan started exporting to North America.... They were held to higher standards than we held for ourselves... As a result, Japan is now known for making the best quality stuff. If you reward bad behaviour, you can expect a lot of it. If you reward good behaviour and punish the bad, you get a lot of good.

Thinking aloud here… when you pulled your device out of the heat exchanger and flames were shooting out it gave me an idea… Why not make a much bigger hole and make a separate chamber that screws onto or somehow fastens to the end of the original with an exhaust pipe on the end of that. Cap off the original exhaust. You could start and run the heater on diesel alone and drip in oil to the separate external burn chamber. Once the oil fire was lit and good and hot you could shut off the diesel.

@loweredexpectations4927

4 ай бұрын

I have thought of this in the past. There are a few issues with this. Actually capping if the end in a ... tidy fashion, would be tricky because of the fins, now thin the exchanger is and the fact that it is cast aluminum. (not ideal for welding). Not hat It can't be done, but it would be a challenge and may require ruining a few exchangers to get it right. The next problem is collecting the heat. The exchanger in these does a really good job at this considering how small it is. Whatever you made for the end would have to be aluminum and a few feet long, or an intricate design to capture the heat. I would like to try making one that is basically 4 feet long with the exhaust out the end, but I'm not sure that this is practical for the average person. I do have plans to build a unit using propane cylinders and a few diesel heater parts.

@jeffclark5024

4 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 Yeah all these kind of projects are always more difficult than originally thought. I was thinking like a 1” hole and maybe a pipe thread tap would do and just use steel pipe. You could have an outer pipe directing the airflow from the heater over the hot external waste oil burn chamber. For me efficiency wouldn’t be a huge concern at least initially, just due to the fact waste oil can be had for free anyways. As long as it burns clean you can always try to pull more heat from the exhaust

@loweredexpectations4927

4 ай бұрын

@@jeffclark5024 I will be working on a few projects that are, how do I say... more extreme, but I'm trying to keep it where the average person can possibly make it happen. I hope to build a complete custom heater using some diesel heater parts and I also have a mist burner head that I plan on testing soon. That is very true... waste is less of a concern when you can get the fuel for free.

3 Bulbs A Drip Feed And A Carbon Monoxide Igloo, Was That A Name Of A Film? And In The UK Vevor Are Not Selling Diesel Heaters Because Of The New Law Just Passed ....Thanks Joel For All Your Hard Work ... Outstanding

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

If it's not the name of a film, it should be ! I have herd that about Vevor not selling in the UK. I enjoy what I do ... Stay warm !

@howardosborne8647

5 ай бұрын

what is the new UK law regarding diesel heaters?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@howardosborne8647 I'm not sure if there actually is or if it is all nonsense ... I searched for it and all I found is a video by an untrustworthy source... and his video was very likely made to sensationalize something.... Not going to watch it. I have heard from someone else that this is actually due to Brexit, and that seems more likely.

@howardosborne8647

5 ай бұрын

I have found out why certain Chinese heaters have been banned from sale in the UK. It is because there was insufficient safety and installation information/instructions included with the heater units. This is a sale of goods safety requirement in the UK.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@howardosborne8647 Okay... thank you for the clarification ! This makes sense, and if all legislators did this sort of thing it would take about a month for China to get its act together.

Congratulations you made a 8kw heater.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I think so, eh !

You could link 20 jugs together in the same way and run for a few days.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

It's pretty slick. You can take the secondary one into the garage, so you don't' freeze, fill it up and take it back out...Works great.

As always another excellent video, Question, Why do you only use Vevor heaters not the other brands. ( I'm sure they are the same regardless )

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment ! I have only been using Vevor heaters because I got my first one form them a little over a year ago... The shipping was very fast, free and the price was reasonable. After that purchase, Vevor saw my videos and they have sent me the other heaters for free. (one at a time for different purposes) I couldn't afford to buy all of these heaters on my own, so that was a big help. Yes, there are a few differences between brands, but they are mostly the same heaters. That being said, I have just purchased one with my own money from Amazon and will be testing it pretty soon.

Yeah I was gonna ask about the potentiometer but I figured you just wanted it done then and there without waiting lol

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

KZread deleted my comment.... apparently because I said "more than one way to ____ a cat" wow... Really KZread.

Suggestions: Drip feed rate depends on max height of fuel in direct feed tank OR max height of siphon tube if used as direct feed to burner. Use siphon to burner for a constant drip rate. Use a cheap on/off tap to adjust the drip rate. If using a variable resistor aka rheostat in place of a light bulb make sure to use same wattage rating and linear, not log, resistance.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Is the pressure of a siphon not affected by the height of fuel it is drawing from ? I don't think this would be constant.🤔 I am using a cheap on / off tap (needle valve) to control drip rate. Thanks for the comment !

@patricklockerby4308

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 I'm fairly sure that as long as the top of the siphon is above the reservoir fluid level the flow rate will be constant. But I would be delighted to be proven wrong by experiment.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@patricklockerby4308 Yeah... I'm thinking about it and wondering if that's right or not... My thought is that the pressure exerted on the fuel line, at the bottom of the container is greater than it is at the top. 🤷‍♂

@patricklockerby4308

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 The principle of operation of a siphon is similar to the principle of operation of an airfoil - the algebraic sum of forces. The airfoil generates lift when the algebraic sum of all forces on top and bottom is positive. A fluid flows outwards in a siphon when the sum of all forces acting downwards is greater than the sum of all forces acting upwards. In a siphon operating in atmosphere and gravity the rate of flow depends on the difference in height between pipe inlet and pipe exit. But don't take my word for it - nullius in verbam - please do some experiments.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@patricklockerby4308 I don't disagree with any of this, but one of the sums of forces comes from the column of diesel in the container, no ? If you plug the fuel line at one end, and place it into the container of diesel, you will have to fight the buoyant forces of the fuel line as you shove to to the bottom of the container. The forces are pushing upwards on the air in the fuel line. If you unblock the fuel line, the fuel will shoot up into the fuel line until it gets to the surface, where it reaches equilibrium. As the fuel level in the container decreases, so does this pressure. For this reason, you are effectively always siphoning from the surface of a body of fluid, regardless of where the end of the line is.

I bought one of those last years, run fine all winter, at the end of winter i try to burn so cooking oil, the screen on the go plug clog up. So i bought a new one didn't put the screen. It wouldn't start the control module went out so i order a new one replace it, then after watch a couple of video and burn 4 liter of kerosene which clean it and now working fine.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Oh no... haha... Yes, they don't like cooking oil. Lots of people out there claiming that this will be fine, but everyone who actually tries it has the same results as you. Glad you were able to get it sorted out.

25:00 You can prevent full thermal runaway in a caveman no electronics way by using a thermal fuse. (Aren't there thermal fuses in there already?) Of course, you'd want to be able to bypass this if you don't have a supply of new thermal fuses, but it should make it safer to sleep at night knowing your shelter/home probably won't burn to the ground. Oh... a more long life way would be to use a high temperature reusable/resettable thermal fuse. Hrm!

@loweredexpectations4927

4 ай бұрын

Under normal operation, with an unmodified heater, the ECU will shut the heater down if it gets too hot or if it flames out. I am not using any of those electronics. I could have used a thermal type fuse, but if the fuse trips, the fuel would keep running and make a huge mess / disaster. The way around this would be to have a thermal fuse and a normally closed electric fuel valve. If it overheats, it would shut the fuel and fan off.

@fitybux4664

4 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 I would put the thermal fuse so it shuts off power to the fan and pump if it blows. If there is a problem with the fuel line (if it breaks and diesel gets everywhere), I don't think much can help at that point if it ignites on hot parts of the units. Perhaps a battery powered smoke detector? 😆

@loweredexpectations4927

4 ай бұрын

@@fitybux4664 Haha... yes, this would be idea. This heater isn't running a fuel pump for these experiments though.

@fitybux4664

4 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 oh yes duh, it slipped my mind, lol. Is the point of this to remain warm, cozy, alive past some sort of mass coronal ejection / EMP? If so, I don't get why the fuel pump was deleted? I guess for mechanical simplicity?

I'm looking for a way to use the heat from the exhaust to generate voltage (12v) to charge the battery. Peltier system? Have fun. Then there should be no charger attached to the battery. And you are electricity independent.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Dave McLuckie (and the folks on his channel) have made a heater that does this. Very cool but also massively expensive. You need a minimum of 50 watts. A solar panel is a much better idea, in my opinion.

No computer no problem... These have been in cars for decades

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what the point of this comment is, haha... but yes, these heaters have been in cars and trucks for decades.

Oh my God! I found a 65ml pulse pump in China. Lol. With that pump feed and 12V direct to the fan, we should be able to melt the aluminum. 🤣🤣🤣

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Holy crap ! That's 11 kw at 5 hz

Gotta over clock the combustion fan for your next experiment. Can do it with a Vevor dc power supply.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

🤟 In this test I am limiting power to the motor ... It's probably turning about 5000 rpm. If I install a few more bulbs, (or a lower resistance load) the fan would turn much faster. WIth the 12V battery connected directly, the fan turns fast enough that it is concerning, haha. I do plan on doing this at some point, but don't want to destroy it ...yet.

@gordon6029

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 sorry, I’ll follow along closer haha

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@gordon6029 No worries... there is a lot to take in !

very funny dr jones ha ha ha ...PWM lobbyist... you got me

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Dr Jones as in the Afterburner guy ? what ? haha. You are the enemy 🤣

@AuditorsUnited

5 ай бұрын

indiana jones and short round his side kick .. uber famous line google HA HA HA very funny dr jones...@@loweredexpectations4927

A short fat fuel container would have less level change over time, which should help with a constant flow. If I were playing with this I might use a simple adjustable timer and run the pump without the control board but use some simple electronics that would allow pump control. I am guessing the pump is like a solenoid, where on...off...on...off would make it pump..

@howardosborne8647

5 ай бұрын

I'm thinking similar to you. The pumps for these heaters are just a simple 12 volt solenoid piston displacement pump so building a variable pulsed power supply shouldn't be difficult.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Yes, that's true. large bottom container will give a more consistent flow than a tall skinny one. The pump requires about 5hz during max operation. While this could be done, a simple electric valve that was operated by temperature closes if the temp gets too high or low, would be decent solution.

@PBVader

5 ай бұрын

Peristaltic pump. Safety temp switch to cut power, and a relay or two to add automation.

@bigoldgrizzly

5 ай бұрын

I would have thought viscosity changes might be more of an issue it the tank goes from a heated shop to -20 outside

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@bigoldgrizzly This test was done in a little warmer temperatures -11 to -20 .... I think the first slow down that I had in fuel was actually due to viscosity and not the level change. I can't say for sure though. I'm guessing that our diesel fuel comes out of the pump with anti gelling agents, as it is frequently below gelling temps

Did you end up running your glow plug through a light bulb? as glow plugs work off 9v and not 12v. You can set the ecu to use several power settings ranging from 35w to 90w, so use a bulb that drops the voltage to around 9v and draws about 50w, as running at 12v will burn it up real quick.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

No...I would have needed way too many bulbs, or a different bulb to get that to work. I just switch it on for a few seconds and turn it off when I hear combustion start. That's pushed around 120W, I think, so I don't leave it on very long.

@davidstevens7809

5 ай бұрын

I dont use big flood lights that are 120v low current bulbs..i suggest using 12 car tail light bulbs..

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@davidstevens7809 I just used those for the photo, because 12V tail light bulbs were way to small to see. What I used here 1156 tail light bulbs.

Whats the possibility of running a high temp cutout pot, like on the bottom of an electric griddle, in the place of the safety temp monitor? The clip is there. Theyre a dime a dozen. Not the perfect answer, but those things operate on 110v ac all day. Watching your progress in the background, as i tinker too. Thinking of subbing.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Once my last video went up, I started thinking about using something like this to control fan speed. I'm not sure what you are imagining what the safety would do, but my idea was to use the overheat switches ( I think they are bimetal switches) found on electric motors. If a person had a few of these, you could attach them to the exchanger and control the fan speed by connecting or disconnecting bulbs in parallel. One of these attached to an electric fuel valve could kill the fuel and allow it to cool down. It could be a problem when the heater cooled and the fuel started flowing again. It may or may not flame out... if it flames out you have a mess of diesel, haha.

@PBVader

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 along the same lines as your ideas. They are bimetal switches, set at various degrees C, and can be normally open or closed. So the possibilities are endless, such as audible buzzer alarms or adding/subtracting resistance. Solid State manual control citcuits.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@PBVader Good stuff. I like it.

Hey dude, question for ya. Yeah yeah, i know this comment is long, and possibly boring...sorry. Being you know what COLD is, I have wondered about the fuel in cold weather. I don't know diesel very well, but i am wondering about fuel "jelling" that i have heard about with diesel. Is it something to be concerned with? I have been considering using one of these for supplemental heat at my cabin, but want to mount the fuel, heater, and everything outside, kind of like your house setup. As cold as it can get here in Wisconsin, I'm wondering if that is something to be concerned with, as the heater would only be used while we are at the cabin, and otherwise, it would be sitting outside at temp, for at least 3 days in a row each week. Any thoughts?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Hey, great question ! If you live in a really cold climate, like Alberta, chances are that your fuel will come out of the pump with an anti gelling agent... so personally I don't have to worry about this .. or at least, I haven't had any issues. You can probably as a trucker in your area or ask the folks at a truck stop... I'm guessing the guy behind the register at 7/11 won't know. Diesel without any additives will start to gell around -15C. You can purchase off the shelf additives, and there are also lots of home remedies. I have not tried them myself, but there are plenty of posts and videos about using acetone or paint thinner to keep diesel from gelling. All of that being said, I don't think the proper additive are very costly.

Hello, watching your video,which is unique on KZread, I thought of a problem of mine with my diesel heater, after a few hours of operation, it stops suddenly without any high temperature error, defective pump, lack of air or fuel , it simply stops and I tend to think that the electronic part of the controller is faulty. As a solution, wouldn't I be able to mount a DC variator to power the fan, fuel pump and spark plug through a time relay for starting and stopping? With this variator I will correlate the amount of air with the fuel pump dosage. What do you think about this? thank you

@loweredexpectations4927

4 ай бұрын

You are probably right about it being faulty electronics. (ECU) Make sure that your power supply is adequate and the voltage isn't the problem. I'm guessing it's not, but that could be. While you certainly can add manual controls to your heater, I have a video running my heater with no ECU, just light bulbs to control fan speed and an IV drip instead of a fuel pump.... Doing this leaves you without any safety mechanisms for overheating or flame out. The fan and plug can be powered with a DC PWM device, but the pump requires pulses, so you need a pulse generator. The plug and fan are also not 12V and if you feed 12V to them, you will find that out quickly, haha. Unless you have a way of monitoring fan speed, then you will need to monitor exhaust CO to know when your fuel ratio is correct. You can use temperature of the exchange to get in the ballpark, but if you don't know the fan speed, then you don't know what the temp of the exchanger "should be" You can get a new controller and ECU set on Aliexpress or amazon for around $50, or take a gambe and try to match and replace your original one. Hope this helps.

@carlos_sacalul

4 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 Thanks for taking the time to write, I'm behind it at the moment on P5 from 10, my 70/30 mix of hydraulic oil and petrol and it burns very clean, my combustion chamber is 208c, the two batteries My Trojan 105s are at 13.1v. Since yesterday the heater has been working without any problem but at p5 from p10. I started with diesel and when I have 200° I switch to the mixture. Yes, you are right, maybe it is better to change the board and the controller but I want to avoid this because I have another heater vevor 8kw BT which works quite well with the same fuel mix🤔. From the very beginning with this no name heater I had all kinds of problems, like the controller does not recognize the fan speed and stops, I fixed it by tilting the hall sensor, now I'm afraid to set the high speed overnight don't stop. I think that all these problems are due to the motherboard that I will change in the end. All the best and I hope you discover the secret of burning oil as clean as diesel.

What do you normally use for a battery and charger setup?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Just a normal battery charger with a 2, 4 or 6 amp selector switch, for my lead acid batteries. I also have a NOCO Genius 5 for my Lithium battery. I'm usually using a lead acid battery with the charger on 4 amps. That gives a trickle charge for the battery and powers the heater.

I wonder if you ran it with the ECU but moved the casing temp sensor away from the body would that make the heater run any hotter?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Yes... I had a conversation with a guy who is trying to run his hotter ... and I told him... "Don't do this, but a piece of gasket paper between the sensor and exchanger will insulate it and make it think it is running cooler" haha. ..

@martinpanks992

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 Yes thats what I thought might happen and it obviously does tje trick..😄

Which vintage Egg/Fiberglass trailer you got hidden there in the background?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

That is a Surfside Triple E . A good candidate for a diesel heater. Currently running a propane unit.

@coachgeo

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 nice. I just like vintage Egg/Fiberglass trailers.. T=Yes, alos good candidate for diesel heater. Less condensation that LP ones

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@coachgeo The unit we have in like a miniature furnace... all of the exhaust is vented outside, so no extra condensation.

I burn kerosene in my house. Many people will freak out hearing this but we don't even exhaust the unit. It's 100% inside. Done it for 50 years

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I can totally believe this... while I can't condone it for safety reasons (some idiot will always find a way to do it wrong and exit this world) the exhaust from my heater when running well is well under the OSHA limitations. With a heisel heater that has so many potential fail points, this is reckless... however, with many heaters there's almost nothing to fail. I personally wouldn't be comfortable doing it, but I can see how people do.

@mjc1000000

5 ай бұрын

Me 10 years. With several CO alarms in case of failure. One year running now with diesel heater.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@mjc1000000 Yes, that seems like a good idea... you want some sort of notification if things get out of hand.

@kevinroberts781

5 ай бұрын

The worst would of course be dieing but the second worst part is the lung damage from breathing kerosene heater exhaust long term. You know that can't be good.for ya

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@kevinroberts781 For sure. If it is burning clean, not so bad, but the VOCs are what is really going to stick with you in the long term.

3-2-1 4:08 shadoodled yer pants

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

LOL.... yup ! I was like SHIT... I popped the fuse.

Good jaab! As you American sounding northern people say except when you say house, out & about, when you sound Scottish. Now your gonna have to get to work on capturing the lost heat from the exhaust. I believe there is more heat wasted than comes out of the heater its self....

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

There is lots of waste, for sure. I have received 16ft of exhaust tubing and was about to start filming / testing with it, but then I had this brilliant idea🤣

Now,al we need to do is get it to run on waste motor oil.😉

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I should have a new burn chamber showing up this week... It may actually be in the mailbox now... I have a few ideas for when it gets here. Before that though, I have a borescope test video to do for Vevor and then I need to do the long ass exhaust videos before I ruin my heater, haha. If you have been watching Dave McLuckie's videos you may have seen he is working on a waste oil burner from a diesel heater.... I'm going to try a slightly more.... Sophisticated approach to what he is doing. I actually have several ideas but some are "no point of return" ideas, where I would need to get a new heater if they don't work, haha.

So now if you can make something like a small turbo and control air buy the amount of fuel is being burnt and element the need to power the fan would just need to move air unit it lights

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Haha... you're getting pretty close to building a jet engine ... A jet engine basically burnes diesel and it makes a lot of heat... it could even power a generator... win win.

@ericgilhart5951

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 yeah I guess so I guess I get overly excited watching this because I use a diesel heater full time in the winter and think about doing so much of what you are doing I love your videos and can't wait to see the next one

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@ericgilhart5951 Haha... I love the enthusiasm ! Believe me, I have all sorts of crazy ideas that I would love to try if I have the time and money !

My vevor 2KW should arrive in the next days, but the track and trace is not working at the moment.🤨

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

My stuff usually arrives either before they have time to track it, or just after, haha... In my area they are pretty quick.

Since you work with Vevor units. Is there a controller for them that works like a normal thermostat? I don't need all the fancy BS, I just need a reliable full-on/Fulloff mode at set temp or a way to interface it with a normal external thermostat.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Hey. The only one that I know of that does this is the new Bluetooth models. I have a video about this called "Unlocking The Bluetooth Diesel Heater Controller - Feature & Settings Discovered !" Your other option is to use a Brueck CD Thermostat with a cheap heater. I have a video about this as well called "MADE IN THE USA - Diesel Heater Thermostat By Bureck !!

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Links to those videos kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXyImdOxnLHNetY.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/lHtmupeYoNvQdqg.html

@tcmtech7515

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 Thanks but that didn't help me at all. Mine does not have that controller and thus none of that applies.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@tcmtech7515 I think you are confused. The Bureck contraption (thermostat) is an additional item that you purchase and it makes your heater turn on and off... it is the thermostat and it sends on and off signals to your existing heater. Vevor does not sell this, but you can purchase it from a company in Idaho. Vevor doesn't sell any parts separately, as far as I know, so If you want a controller from them, with this functionality, your only choice is the Bluetooth heater that comes with this controller.

@tcmtech7515

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 I follow that the Bureck is a separately made unit. The problem is my heater is not Bluetooth compatible and thus the Bureck is of no use to me in this application, hence the looking for alternative solutions that might work with mine. .

What happens when one of the lightbulbs burns out, as these are prone to doing when they get wet, or fail due to the inherrent design of them? BTW, You should try making coffee or tea from snow, but not yellow snow! LOL! Youll notice that it has a better taste vs tap water.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Yes, I think I may have mentioned this in my previous video. The fan speed will drop if one burns out. I put the table and board there to protect the bulbs somewhat from snow as they may pop if it touched them. They are running at pretty low demands as with the heater set to 3 so they would likely last much longer than normal. I'm not a coffee or tea drinker. Maybe some oatmeal or Kraft Dinner 🤣 or ramen noodles.

I dont know anything much about electronics and my question will probably confirm that, but couldnt you just use a potentiometer to control the fan speed?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

This Is possible, but they are generally designed to handle signal voltage, with tiny amounts of currant. It would likely get destroyed pretty quickly. A pot usually communicates with another device that then handles the actual load / current 👍

If one or two bulbs fail, the speed of your fan will decrease and there is a good chance that your heater will no longer cool down and melt sufficiently, with all the consequences that entails. Can't work with ordinary power resistors?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

This is not meant to be a permanent solution or alternative to a working ECU, it is an experiment to show what can be done if you use your head a little, and some crap you have laying around. It's also visually easier for people to grasp. If a bulb burns out, the fan will slow down, substantially. The cooling fan and combustion air fan are connected to the same motor and this would likely cause the heater to flame out, but yes, it could also overheat... maybe I will test this. If a person were to do this modification, they are overriding all safety systems. Leaving it unattended would be stupid and dangerous.

Man. You are getting real good with photoshop and hiding all the components. Almost had me fooled that you were running it with no ecu or fuel pump. Can't believe you knocked down the death igloo. All that warm carbon monoxide looked so inviting. Lmao.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

LOL... yeah... I also edited out all the clicking of the pump 🤟 ... Way easier than actually removing the ECU. Haha... a good warm place for a nap.... that you never wake up from.

I laid out the exact math for the estimated hydrostatic pressure for you (basically zero), you disagreed, then tested it yourself (by removing almost all of the remaining "basically zero" pressure) and you're still surprised you had to make a dramatic adjustment? Are you figuring out that the pressure is virtually zero yet? Math doesn't lie. Same is true for lambda (that you keep denying.) Your version of "lean" on WMO is STILL extremely rich in the real world.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

No..... haha. The pressure is at the restriction. The pressure is at the valve, this is my argument. There is no pressure at the heater. I agreed that there was pressure from gravity. I was surprised at the fact that the fuel wouldn't flow at all, seemingly breaking the laws of physics... WIth the jug on top of the heater, there was no flow at all until I opened the valve drastically, likely due to it being cold and he friction of the line, and it being all coiled up🤷‍♂️

🤟🏻🤟🏻👑🤟🏻

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

🤟

Nice. Was this test done with the 5kw body or 2kw?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

On a 5kw. I do have a 2kw as well, but I do all my silly testing on my original 5kw unit.

@kirkwalsh1932

5 ай бұрын

I got my replacement heater today, still the medium size 5kw body, but this one gets alot hotter than the first one I received. I can actually get a 215C running temp. I'm going to try the ECU on the larger 8kw body in a few days and see what happens there. I can still only get around 180C out of the original.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@kirkwalsh1932 That should be interesting.

@kirkwalsh1932

5 ай бұрын

Took the brains from the 8kw Bluetooth out to the shop. With the bigger burn chamber, 240mm, I was getting around 237C running temp. Original one is 215-220C. Definitely has a higher pulse rate to the pump. I might have found my combination for my trailers winter heater. I'm calling the heater in the shop the 8kw, it has the 9.5" (240mm) burn chamber. But the program in the Bluetooth board puts out 215C on the shorter 5kw burn chamber.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@kirkwalsh1932 Very cool... and you got this from Vevor ? I would love to know the SKU or model of it. Do you have a link to it ?

For me the light bulbs simplified the experiment. better..

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I thought it was very clever and it satisfied my monkey brain, haha.

Walter diesel fuel thicken?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Yes... especially after -15C. I think the first reduction in fuel drip rate, may have been caused by the drop in temperature.

Because you don't utilized the heat from your exhaust you lose about 40% of the actual hest output , try and fix that and see remarkable results

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. It's actually closer to 18% but that is still substantial. I have a few experiments planned to capture this heat and have a video where I used a second heater for this purpose. It is called EXTREME Efficient Diesel Heater ? Viewer Suggestion - Heat Scavenging

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/eJ1_pNidqdWwptI.html

@mechniack

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 😁👍 Good luck still like to see this on cleaned up converted waste motor oil , because it's free 😱. Sent a few things to look at , obviously it's totally possible with changing anything on the heater , by refining waster motor oil , there's many different ways , refinery machines exist, for sale

Please automate this with motors like dc motors, stepper motors, and an arduino, or plc.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I would like to. This might happen some time in the future, but I have a lot on the go at the moment.

Cinder cone volcanic collapse.... .:)

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Is this a suggestion ? haha.

@patchvonbraun

5 ай бұрын

Nah. Just when you broke up the snow pile, it reminded me of that...

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@patchvonbraun OH !! I thought you wanted me to get my heater so hot that it melted and collapsed in on itself !

Can waste oil be used with this system?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I am going to be trying it, but my experience tells me that this will not work well for long... Ash will build up and cause issues.

@DeM5oF7TDu

5 ай бұрын

I have recently seen emulsified fuel used on diesel fuel. The water content of 5%~20% can burn more completely, but I have never seen anyone use it on waste oil. If possible, can you give it a try?

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@DeM5oF7TDu Emulsified fuel works well in engines to reduce combustion temperatures. Unfortunately, this is the opposite effect that you want when burning waste vegetable oil or engine oil in a heater.

@DeM5oF7TDu

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 Water plus carbon can generate syngas (H2+CO) at high temperatures. Although it may lower the temperature, it may remove the carbon deposits? You can first try adding water vapor to the air inlet or using a small mist generator.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

​@@DeM5oF7TDuI actually have tried a bubbler, where I forced the inlet air to pass through a jug of water before entering the heater. I did this separately with alcohol and water, as well as with them mixed together. The results were inconclusive. CO is caused by incomplete combustion. Carbon is caused by incomplete combustion. Incomplete combustion is generally caused by not enough oxygen, not enough heat or not enough atomization. Adding water as a mist, steam or in liquid form, is going to mean that you have less oxygen as the water vapor is taking up space in the combustion process. You have x volume for yoru air and fuel, if you add stem, you get less air. It is also going to lower the temperatures as we have already established, and that is not what you want in a heater. The one advantage that could be had from emulsification is that the fuel may atomize better.

My heater stainless mesh mantle gets clogged to the point of flame out! It takes about a week to clog up ,no noticeable buildup in the burn chamber but the air hole gets clogged with slag.I wonder if anyone knows a solution to this problem?any help would be super appreciated 🙏

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Are you talking about the mesh that goes in around the glow plug or the one behind the baffle ? Are you burning diesel ? You say "slag" ... That sounds like the fuel you are using is leaving deposits behind. If you are burning anything other than diesel or kerosene, (or that type of lite fuel) this slag is bound to happen. If you are burning clean diesel, and the stuff you are talking about is carbon, they you may either have too much fuel or not enough air flow. This can be cause by ECU tuning, location of the heater or a restriction of the inlet or exhaust.

@jestercrusher7743

5 ай бұрын

Clean diesel ,the mesh around the glow plug gets plugged up every week

@jestercrusher7743

5 ай бұрын

Thankyou very much for your help

@jestercrusher7743

5 ай бұрын

My battery voltage drops below safe levels often

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@jestercrusher7743 Thanks for the details. It shouldn't really be getting hot enough in that area for soot to form. This could mean that perhaps your flow plug is staying on, or that your flame initiation hole is plugged. Close to where the fuel line goes in, there is a small hole (3mm) to let air in for when the heater is starting up. Once the heater is actually operating, the glow plug should be turned off, and all of the burn takes place in the main burn area, just behind the baffle. If you have a way of measuring how many watts / amps it is pulling, the heater should dray no more than 45 watts when running at full, and pull about 3.5 amos. If it is more than this then perhaps the plug is staying on.

just serfing about, and it appears Vevor make lotsa good stuff like Hamburger Press, Wine Press? lol, hmmmm

As a side joke, would ppl get desperate enuff to steal your 5lts of diesel sitting outside (in the freezing cold) i am sitll running it indoor, and although the MO2 is neligible,. I still remember your other vid where you detected formaldehyde in the air with you Oxygen Quality Meter thingy...... Most of the time I run it min. but when it get -1,-3 the reverse cycle freezes up, and ah well, I kick in the Diesel, and all is sweet,, eg/ last night (o5oohrs)_ Outdoor temp = 0, Indoor Temp 30deg. (31 peak). HAHHHAAHA....Fking Cosy like fuking the stinkin hot summers we have here. ahh,, fk it, let fire up the HT and 'tune in" Cheers!

2 Gallons of fuel (8 liters)

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

haha... Yeah... I know this isn't correct, but here in Canada we often have 2 or 4 litre jugs, and because we used to use the imperial system, many of us call 4 litre jugs "gallon jugs"

Wouldn't the heater work better if it were INSIDE the house like it's SUPPOSED to be and just the exhaust and combustion intake pipes sticking outside? The amount of heat loss in the uninsulated blower outlet hose and intake hose must be astronomical. That plus the BTU loss through the body of the unit that would at least be "lost" inside the house if it were inside the house.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely... this would be more efficient. I don't know I would say "like it's supposed to be" as these are designed to be installed in vehicles, not in houses, but, yes, far better. There are however, many good reasons to install one outside, if you take more than efficiency into consideration. I personally install mine outside because it is a test heater and will be removed from the window several times a week.

@xNYCMarc

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 The operative word is IN VEHICLES, not outside of vehicles. They are usually in a cabinet or under a bed or something INSIDE. If they were meant for exterior installation, they wouldn’t have combustion intake pipes. It would just draw combustion air from its outside surroundings.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@xNYCMarc No need to get worked up. Webasto manual page 46. section 3:2 disagrees with you, when it clearly say " 3.2. Installation location The heater may be installed both in the interior or on the exterior of the vehicle. " I will post the link to the manual in another comment, just incase youtube blocks it. The hose offers the option to mount it inside and pull air from the outside. This doesn't mean it is exclusively intended for that.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

@@xNYCMarc www.butlertechnik.com/downloads/Webasto_Airtop_2000STC_Installation_manual.pdf

@xNYCMarc

5 ай бұрын

@@loweredexpectations4927 No body, except possibly you, is getting "worked up". Perhaps you shouldn't project what you are doing onto what someone else is or isn't doing. The manual actually does NOT disagree with me. If you actually read the entire manual, you will come to the conclusion that Wabasto clearly intends their product to be installed in "conditioned space". They provided for a "If you have to, you CAN install it outside if you meet certain conditions.". The conditions they "want" is a weather tight enclosure, otherwise they will deny warranty. They are "supposed" to be installed inside. But they won't stop you, at your own risk, from installing them outside. Ask me how I know when I was responsible for a fleet of 1,900 trucks with Wabastos installed in them. They flat-out deny warranty claims on exterior mounted units as a matter of policy. So we started installing them under the beds in the sleepers. When a company says "no warranty for you because it was mounted outside", that means they are intended to be installed INSIDE.

CHANGE OF TITLE::: Lazy man way of making a snow fort, , use diesel heater (or car) exhaust to melt center of snow pile, go have lunch, a nap, return a few hours latter and climb in your new snow tent

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

This did make me wonder how long it would take to build an igloo with a diesel heater in a giant snow bank ! hahaha.

Thank you for all the amazing experiments you’re doing, so we don’t have to blow up our own garages! 🥸 Will my diesel heater work on its side or at an angle? Not the fuel tank just the burner with exhaust and air intake. The body. Im making a video of my travel container build. I might need to put the machine on it side and or at an angle. Thank you! You’re incredible!!

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Haha... You are welcome. I love tinkering ! Most of these heaters will run without issue on one side. I have done with a few of my heaters. However, this depends on on where the initiation air hole (about 3mm) is place. This hole is located close to where the metal fuel pipe enters the burn chamber, so you have to remove the fan housing to see it. If the hole is oriented so that fuel will leak out when the heater is tipped, then obviously this is a problem. The heater may continue to run even with fuel leaking, so you want to be sure. I will post a link to a video where I'm checking one... I didn't show it in detail, but this is what you should do before running it this way.

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

In this video I talk about it starting at 4 mins and 15 seconds. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIqmo7qunci-eaQ.html&ab_channel=LoweredExpectations

heh, never seen this vid. Interesting.

Hey if you don't already you should put links and promo codes for the rebuild kits [glow plugs and gaskets sets ect..] It is very annoying that the companys like vevor don't list these things for the product's they are selling...

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

I agree that it is annoying that companies don't sell parts for what they are selling, however, this is because the general public find cheaper parts on Amazon, Aliexpress etc. and they just can't compete. As a result, what we are left with is buying parts from Amazon, Aliexpress etc. You better believe if they could make it profitable, all of the retailers would be doing it. Companies like Webasto, who sell a 2kw heater for $1500 will happily sell their customers parts, a $20 fuel filter $100 burn chamber etc.... A huge reason that we can buy a $200 heater from Vevor, is because they don't have the expense involved in inventorying parts. I remember the days when Sears guaranteed that they would have parts for anything they sold for 25 years. Appliances and lawn and garden.... long gone are those days.

I have mine inside, why are so many putting them outside, they have to be loseing lot's of heat.. Also what's gonna happen when the heater flames out, does it still keep flowing fuel..

@loweredexpectations4927

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Having a heater inside of your house is more efficient and makes more sense for heating your house. Unlike your heater, the purpose of this heater is to withstand massive amounts of abuse for your (and my) entertainment. It has been tortured for over a year now, and just keeps taking it. On average, this heater gets torn apart and inspected 4-5 times a week, so a permanent install inside my house is not practical. Yes, if the heater flames out, the fuel will keep flowing and make a huge mess.... just like I stated in the video, when I suggested not trying this yourself.