"No Crime, No ID!" This Guy Doesn't Let Cops Bully Him | Epic ID Refusal | First Amendment Audit
The incident under analysis involves key actions by both the individual and the police officers, which must be examined within the framework of constitutional provisions, statutory laws, and legal precedents. The central legal question revolves around the individual's right to refuse to provide identification absent reasonable suspicion of a crime.
The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects individuals from unreasonable searches and seizures. This protection extends to the demand for identification by law enforcement officers. According to the precedent set by Terry v. Ohio (1968), police officers must have reasonable suspicion that a person is involved in criminal activity to justify a stop and frisk. In this case, the individual asserted their right under the Fourth Amendment, arguing that merely being present in a public space and recording does not constitute reasonable suspicion of a crime.
The First Amendment guarantees the right to free speech and freedom of the press, which includes the right to record matters of public interest. This right has been upheld in various cases, such as Glik v. Cunniffe (2011), where the court affirmed that recording public officials in a public place is a protected First Amendment activity. The individual's assertion that they were filming for a story falls under this protection, making any interference by law enforcement a potential violation of their First Amendment rights.
Many states have "stop and identify" statutes that require individuals to provide identification to police officers under specific circumstances. Arizona's statute 13-24-12a, referenced in the incident, allows officers to request identification if they have reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. The individual's refusal to provide ID hinges on whether the officers had a legitimate basis for their suspicion. The U.S. Supreme Court case Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada (2004) upheld the constitutionality of such statutes, but emphasized that reasonable suspicion is a necessary prerequisite.
The police officers' obligation to investigate reports thoroughly is mandated by law to ensure public safety and prevent crime. The individual inquired about the consequences of making a false report, highlighting the legal implications for the reporting party. Under Arizona law, filing a false report is a criminal offense (ARS 13-2907.01), which can lead to penalties if proven. The police officers, by investigating both sides, demonstrated adherence to their duty to verify the facts before taking any further action.
The officers' initial approach was based on a report of suspicious activity. However, the individual maintained they were on a public sidewalk and not engaged in any criminal behavior. For the officers to demand identification, they needed to articulate specific, objective facts that constituted reasonable suspicion. The conversation revealed that the officers did not have clear evidence of criminal activity, which supports the individual's refusal to provide ID.
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Falsely reporting a crime IS A CRIME!
@touchedouche8806
25 күн бұрын
Yes. It should have been an easy enough answer.
@thisshouldbeentertaining3386
25 күн бұрын
And like usual they just let the people who wasted law enforcement resources slide.🤦 Pretty sure had the auditor called 911 and said they came out and pushed him when they didn't. Those cops wouldn't be like oh don't worry Mr auditor you just had a case of miscommunication.
@HawksDiesel
25 күн бұрын
Yet is rarely, if ever, used as a main charge.
@velcroman98
25 күн бұрын
FOIA the call to 911. Even then, I doubt you could get a DA to prosecute.
@gregkasza1925
25 күн бұрын
Yet the callers are very rarely held accountable.
Stop letting badged cowards get away with, "this day and age speech ".
@thisshouldbeentertaining3386
25 күн бұрын
Love how he added that a camera on a sidewalk could see more than Google maps. 🤣 Only thing he didn't add was how law enforcement were in danger.
@ricksterallain
25 күн бұрын
"yeah this day and age, the most peaceful time in all of human history."
@QuarrellaDeVil
24 күн бұрын
"Have you seen all these reports of police officers gone wild in this day and age?"
@mariofernandez9026
16 күн бұрын
He illegally detained a man. After it proven that the report was false, will he detain and arrest that party?
@shadowbeast2276
14 күн бұрын
"in this day and age, with all the terrorism going on, with everything going on in the world, with all the social unrest, since/because of 9/11"
That's funny. The cops, who are NOTORIOUS for constantly interrupting people, is upset that you interrupted him.
@mr.duanesharpe
25 күн бұрын
They don’t like it and when you do. They claim “you’re not listening…” boo hoo
@ejwatcher5643
25 күн бұрын
He should have asked him if he was going to be alright. Poor baby
@atetoomanydonuts
24 күн бұрын
I would only just say you have no authority here because there is no crime here and so all your training..... stick it. I'm not here to help you with your investigation. I would speak in fact statements only. I would not answer even one question. I would speak law and law and then more law and over and over again I make them look stupid. Liars.
@christopherskipp1525
14 күн бұрын
That's to be expected from a jackass, no?
@shadowbeast2276
14 күн бұрын
Entitlement
They should be sued and charged for filing a false police report and endangering the reporters life.
@patrickdaly2121
24 күн бұрын
They should be, but police aren’t interested in corrupt people making false reports. They like to harass innocent people using cameras.
@alfredlebon2767
24 күн бұрын
"On their wall" was just a COP lie to remove you from your center. To get you to start gasping and explaining instead of being tight lipped. IMO, any SOB who starts out with a lie deserves NO interaction or courtesy.
@bobechs7234
22 күн бұрын
All the complainers had to do is add one more plausible lie to put you, not them, on the spot: say one or more cameras were out of order or mis-aimed and that is the section of wall they saw you "attempt to breach" Off you go, and in six months you can appear before a hostile judge to show your boring video and be simply disbelieved, convicted and penalized. By then the complainer will have become convinced they saw something that did not happen.
@mikeharrison6491
17 күн бұрын
except the camera never lies.
If you throw a potato into any police station you'll double the IQ immediately
@mr.duanesharpe
25 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@phinethkyu
25 күн бұрын
Good one, can I quote you? LOL
@curious736
25 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Dondavis4501
25 күн бұрын
But when the OAF-icers parents are brother and sister, the IQ is still in the negative number !
@dantealighieri9540
25 күн бұрын
yes.
Direct D has already exposed this petty, foolish, juvenile of a cop.
@Boo-rb7ie
25 күн бұрын
Yes, he wants to be famous!
Lying cop. Been lying to the public for years.
@GillKennedy-tm9xx
25 күн бұрын
Professional Liars
@TruthrConsequences
25 күн бұрын
@@GillKennedy-tm9xx Unprofessional Liars
@lisadishner8730
25 күн бұрын
Wow really we didn't know that.. 😂 They are trained to lie in the little 6 weeks of training they do
@shroompicn-shrooman
24 күн бұрын
The whole Mesa PD is trash 🗑 not just this turd .
@robstanfield4338
24 күн бұрын
This is the clown cop DirectD has been sparring with.
It’s funny cops gets mad when they can’t bully you.
@ben10094
19 күн бұрын
qualified immunity THAT IS THE TICKED TO ABUSE CITIZENS
The first cop is a lawsuit waiting to happen. He twisted the wording of the statute to attempt to trick the auditor into giving up his rights. What a creep.
@OregonDARRYL
13 күн бұрын
This is why you don't even talk to them... you should force them to do something foolish and cash in.
The days of violating our 4th amendment are over piggy’s
@sydnidowney3598
25 күн бұрын
NOT IF djt IS ELECTED. IT WILL ONLY BE THE BEGINNING.
@kittyhawk7060
25 күн бұрын
Not even close. They continue to violate our rights.
@Boombauatic
24 күн бұрын
@@sydnidowney3598 that’s my only beef with him he is so pro police I wish he would tone that down
@ronniebuchanan6575
24 күн бұрын
@@sydnidowney3598you are exactly wrong because he was in office for 4 years and done nothing but good for we the people. Besides now that he has had his rights violated more than anyone else he is gonna come down hard on those that do. The numbers speak for themselves everything was glorious for us til the left owned by China and China released the thing on us. Inflation was zero and the economy was growing at a phenomenal rate.
@ronniebuchanan6575
24 күн бұрын
@@Boombauatic hopefully after all this he will see what the deal is. Trump like myself knows we need law and order that should mean the we need good cops and constutionally minded officers that understand they should not and will not violate our rights and we also need the police to police themselves.
Saying way too much, silent treatment every time.
@SuperTensions
24 күн бұрын
Talk. but say nothing. Keep the conversation going while you say nothing at all but just enough to keep the cop talking. The more they talk the more stupid they sound.
@anthonyriggins5281
21 күн бұрын
Dude, you talk waaayyy to much.
@krishelfferich3487
19 күн бұрын
Some auditors are known for this. Speech is silver - silence is golden.
@mpotokar7
14 күн бұрын
@@SuperTensions the goal isn't to make them sound stupid, the goal is for them to understand they are in the wrong and to walk away without escalation. Wanting to hear more idiotic babble is another problem in and of itself. YOU would talk too much
They (water company) called 911 and lied to escalate action with the police. Should be a felony to do that.
@lowercherty
18 күн бұрын
It is.
@pauranella
15 күн бұрын
Not uncommon. I worked in restaurants and retail on/off for almost 20 years. Managers get a bug up thier rear with an e.ployee or customer they don't like, they will flat out lie to get the petson legally banned. The f'up part is other employees will back the lie, and police/judges more often then not will take the word of the buisness without any evidence or real investagation done.
Jesus Christ! Mesa PD has some of the worst cops in the nation!!!
@pops4714
24 күн бұрын
That’s for certain.
@tziomber4790
24 күн бұрын
Complete trash.
Cop interrupted you a dozen times before it complained about you!
@johnwtobin156
25 күн бұрын
That would have been the perfect time to have pulled out a "Binky" and handed it to officer SFB.
I'm getting tired of these stupid conversations with ignorant corrupt cops
@OregonDARRYL
13 күн бұрын
What other kind of cop is there?
@bamahama707
12 күн бұрын
Is "suspicious activity" a misdemeanor or a felony?
@OregonDARRYL
12 күн бұрын
@@bamahama707 When they "suspicious"... say "what do you suspect?". They'll say "I don't know yet".... Then you say "Then you don't suspect anything do you? You're just fishing. That's what I suspect."
Cop - "Well, I am investigating a crime.". NO!, he is investigating a report from the water treatment facility. He hasn't determined that there is any criminal activity yet. He really should talk to the reporting party before detaining someone and getting IDs.
@kittyhawk7060
25 күн бұрын
Yeah, he stuck his foot in his mouth when he said he was investigating a crime.
@user-tq9bg7dp7o
24 күн бұрын
@@kittyhawk7060 Yea, but, he has to say that in order to detain and identify him. The problem is the cop forgot about the part where he has to articulate the specific crime he is investigating.
@mijimonmaster
16 күн бұрын
But cops cannot "investigate" a non crime. Until RAS of an actual crime is present, they can only conduct enquiries. It's just another tyrant tactic to violate rights and abuse law.
F'ing blue line gang.
@BrianMc.
25 күн бұрын
FTP.
@godovermoney1124
23 күн бұрын
This country has become a fucking joke and the laughing stock of the world in some ways
@elijahtheprophet4544
22 күн бұрын
Thug mafia gang.
False reporting is a crime that they never enforce.
@pinballrobbie
23 күн бұрын
It keeps them employed.
@godovermoney1124
23 күн бұрын
This country is a fucking joke anymore
@shadowbeast2276
14 күн бұрын
@@pinballrobbiejustify their existence
3 cops to investigate 1 person for trespassing? No ID, tyrant cop can just go and cry😁!
So the cop started off lying. 😂
"How did you get here?" is exactly synonymous with "Do you have plates I can run?"
Sue the jackasses who made a false report.
Crime of trespassing, but you can’t leave. Say what cop?
@dantealighieri9540
25 күн бұрын
A stupid one who relies on his badge and weapin to get some authority over others.
Is it just me of is every cop in the country ignorant of the law when it comes to when a citizen has to ID?? Boggles the mind!!
@timtubemusic
25 күн бұрын
every cop also does not know trespass laws
@-erm2918
25 күн бұрын
Convenient, don't you think?
@timtubemusic
25 күн бұрын
@@-erm2918 they can lie to you so they take it to the limit
@MrGevander
25 күн бұрын
We can't know if each cop we see is IGNORANT of the law (doesn't know it and doesn't want to learn it) or GASLIGHTING people (knows the law but wants to convince people it is different than what it is). The result is the same: cops hassling law-abiding civilian's for crimes they didn't commit.
@billtate6962
25 күн бұрын
They aren't ignorant....they just prey on the fact that....many of US are....for every citizen that knows and defends their rights.... there's at least 20 who have no clue....and that's not even counting the bootlickers who GLADLY give up all their rights when cops ask....so yeah, even though they know we don't HAVE to ID....they're gonna ask for it anyway...the more IDs they can run....the better chance for them to catch somebody they can make a buck off.
Palmer parks illegally on a sidewalk. Then acts superiority.
Abolish qualified immunity, make them pay for their own corruption
@kittyhawk7060
25 күн бұрын
Trump wants to give them full immunity. Think about the abuse if they get that.
@sketch6995
24 күн бұрын
Abolishing qualified immunity made no difference in either colorado nor new mexico.....
@joedirthovey8570
24 күн бұрын
Wow I didn't know this.. Thanks G@@sketch6995
@Avreem
22 күн бұрын
Gillkenenedyxx=ARE YOU MENTALLY RETARTED.
@bucko60
21 күн бұрын
Won't matter until they overturn Terry vs Ohio
Another uneducated cop with an attitude!! Sad insecure cop trying to abuse the public
@bamahama707
25 күн бұрын
Trying and failing...
@jimclarence5441
25 күн бұрын
I'll disagree. He's educated....but just refuses to acknowledge the photographer's rights.
@yesode4201
25 күн бұрын
Can you please explain and with a time stamp when any of these officers had an attitude? You must be very fragile!
@normanconnor
25 күн бұрын
@@yesode42018.15 attitude about him being interrupted. The usual you feel uncomfortable giving your name. More lies when he said at the beginning about ID 9.45 again making up lies about id. And the whole scenario with his threats of id. 11.50 again trying to get id. A person does not have to break the law to identify. Attitude of a liar. But if you like the taste of police boots, then no matter what they do it won't be wrong for people like that.
@yesode4201
25 күн бұрын
@@normanconnor I understand where you’re coming from but you realize cops are paid to lie and extort. I don’t know anybody that likes to be interrupted. That’s rude, and I don’t think that the cop was unwarranted and getting snippy with him.
Again, how would knowing a persons name advance ANY investigation?
@kittyhawk7060
25 күн бұрын
It's all about getting a name to see if the person has any active warrants. They love arresting people.
I'm always amazed at how condescending Police Officers can be.
getting an ID is like crack to these incompetents
Ignorance of the law is NO excuse according to the courts...UNLESS you are a COP.
@TruthrConsequences
25 күн бұрын
Thin Blue lies trump the truth every time.
Trespassing is not a crime until you've been asked to leave and remain. So the cop can't detain him because the man was gone from the reported location. No crime.
@janvanruth3485
25 күн бұрын
bullshit. what do you think those 'no trespassing' signs ar for?
@jamieh4148
25 күн бұрын
@@janvanruth3485 The reporter was on the sidewalk, it doesn't matter.
@forkthepork
25 күн бұрын
@@janvanruth3485people who are on private property without permission, I suppose. Luckily, that wasn't the case here.
@kcgp2572
24 күн бұрын
@@janvanruth3485 its a hotel. He was a guest there. He asked for a refund and they told him to leave. He did leave. Thats not tresspassing.
"Are you going to arrest them for filing a false police response?" Cop's answer -- "Well, I have to hear both sides." How is that responsive to the question?
Keeps saying he needs both sides, but does not go and get the other side
This guy should have NEVR said a single word to this cop! The cop illegally detained him right out of the gate!
A lot of hash marks and no rank. That speaks volumes.
@loginregional
24 күн бұрын
No rank? Just rank stupidity and piggyness
I'm under NO OBLIGATION to help you "investigate".
Goober on duty
Guys !! When he says "you're not free to go" at that point say "ok, I envoke my 5th amendment right to remain silent and I'm requesting an attorney" !! Start this guys and STOP talking to them !!!
You have YET TO DETAIN HIM LAWFULLY!! YOU GETTING A CALL DOESN'T MEAN I LOSE MY RIGHTS
People call the police all the time for no real reason but that DOESN'T GUVE YOU THE RIGHT TO DETAIN WHILE YOU INVESTIGATE !!😂
Is it POSSIBLE the sun has baked your brain officer?
If they are ALLEGING a crime was committing, the cops SHOULD ask the claimant for their EVIDENCE before approaching the "suspect". That's the way policing **used to be** done. Then the training changed so that NOW they approach the "suspect" to see if they can get a confession first. That's a useless endeavor if the "suspect" exercises their rights.
@marciawhite692
25 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@dianedquilter
25 күн бұрын
Oh! That makes WWAAYY too much sense. 😂😢
“I am neither qualified, nor paid, nor allowed to assist with police work officer.”
“I was in my body for the last hour….” Love it
Mesa PD is hands down the worst PD in America
@chuck8094
25 күн бұрын
or does Arizona just have the most auditors?
@TruthrConsequences
25 күн бұрын
There are STILL five active gangs within the LA County Sheriff's Department with their own gang tattoos.
@TruthrConsequences
25 күн бұрын
@@chuck8094 Please name five. I'll wait...
@chuck8094
25 күн бұрын
@@TruthrConsequences Thanks for repeating my question.
The cop was standing there for 9 min and never investigated
He can't legally detain to go look for a crime.
LIES LIES LIES. That's all they do. Every word out their mouths are a lie... And every action they do is criminal activity..
@elijahtheprophet4544
22 күн бұрын
Professionally too that's what they get paid to do. Never talk to a cop rule #1
He's only guilty of trespassing if he was on their property, they told him to leave, and he refused to leave.
Someone should be changed with filing a false report..!!!!
The kryptonite questions to trespassing is: am I refusing to leave? Am I still on their property? Is this public property? If so by what crime do they want to trespass me?
Even if he was on the property he has to be asked to leave and refuse before it becomes a crime
The first cop should be fired ASAP - for stupidity, power-trip, mind-set-up on assumption of crime, and an unlawful detainment. The 911 caller should be heavily fined for false call. Last time I checked, the REAL CRIME is skyrocketing across the country. Why not focus on that and stop harassing the 1st Amendment activists...???
The moment they start citing the ppl making false reports, that BS would stop
If a company is lying they must be heavily fined.
“The Constitution of the United States of America is no game officer.”
Shoutsout to this auditor the first officer could have been more professional
@billtate6962
25 күн бұрын
Also the guy that called the cops....why is it that the people who walk out to ask if the person recording "needs any help"....NEVER actually cares about helping at at. "Can I help you?"....is the Karen dog whistle for "go away we don't want you here"
I don't like the police for just how they handle us as citizens ❤❤❤❤ JBTPS
"Thank you for upholding your oath". They didn't, though. Auditors need to stop thanking cops.
@johnmclaughlin9930
25 күн бұрын
That’s my biggest pet peeve. They lied throughout the entire interaction. That’s the opposite of upholding their oath.
@joeblow2069
25 күн бұрын
Yes stop thanking them and stop with the "keep safe" line.
@Bocampeon_2022
25 күн бұрын
NUNCA hay que hacerlo, por mas "buena" actitud que alguno tenga. Son todos una pandilla criminal al fin y al cabo.
People making false claims, police detaining you……. “Why are you so agitated?”
The officer said they said you was on there wall, and then said he's only talked to you. He lied at the get go.
The unconstitutional bullship runs thick and deep!
The caller and the police and dispatcher, need to get the story straight first before accusing anyone of a crime.
They SHOULD be investigating the recording of who called and cite them if they lied about him being on the wall. THAT is absolutely illegal and should be punished.
That cop is so ignorant and tries to bully the auditor to get what his ego needs. after being cleared, he should have told that ignorant cop off instead of thanks.
The person that filed the false report should be held accountable for your temporary loss of freedom.
Never never never id without committing a crime check your city first.
The cop lied when he said there was an officer in there so he couldn't talk to both of them. The officers came way after he was talking to him.
AND DON'T RUN WITH SCISSORS IN YOUR HANDS 🙄
@TruthrConsequences
25 күн бұрын
And don't talk when your mouth is full of food.
That piggy is lying, ask to get the dispatch call.
How stupid can this cop be? Someone calls and lies to police to get this guy thrown in a cage and wonders why he's annoyed.
Cop - "I have to hear both sides. I have other officers in route. I will talk to you and one of them will talk to them.". So, YOU still won't hear booth sides. YOU would have to talk to them and YOU will have to listen to them. Not listen to him and someone else listen to them.
This cop is trying to be his "friend" so he can completely and utterly screw him over. Completely dishonest and disingenuous.
I’ll bet this cop was at the bottom of his special ed class .
@TruthrConsequences
25 күн бұрын
Couldn't even bother to shave before he showed up to work.
This cop is a HUGE baby
"You can't leave so you are legally detained." CLOWN
Pedestrians have the right of way in a driveway.
That old and no stripes! Huge red flag.
The auditor should have pressed the fact that a false claim was made by someone, either the business or the 911 dispatcher. Someone lied to the police. Since no one told him to leave the property, there was no trespass involved either.
As soon as the cops start lying and abusing the statutes and laws, plead the 5th and say no more. Let them abuse your rights all day long, it just means more money. The main thing is to file complaint after complaint.
That shoukd be 5,000 dollarfine for illeagle detainment..
@lindacrowe8428
25 күн бұрын
I'd rather is a fine for calling in a false report.
@billhartnell1584
25 күн бұрын
Pity you can't spell
@lindacrowe8428
25 күн бұрын
@@billhartnell1584 that's all you have?
@billhartnell1584
25 күн бұрын
@@lindacrowe8428 thats all I need
“This day and age with everything on the news” BAHAHAHA!! OH PLEASE! 😂😂😂🤣🤣 it’s the police that always start something in this day and age.
@johnshaddick6858
25 күн бұрын
Or, " Here is the deal ".
Illegal detainment should be sued for violating his rights
They are ALL Liars
@FROGN8R400
24 күн бұрын
But not good enough at it to become attorneys.
This cop is watching too many movies , " recon "
@TruthrConsequences
25 күн бұрын
Since 2013, the agencies contracted to "train" U.S. police are sub-contractors working for Israeli-owned companies... often with former IDF/Mossad trainers.
Should’ve asked to press charges for the false report
NEVER help them with their investigation against you!!! They are not our friends once they get the call, its obvious 😒
First give us your private details. Once we get our fix, we’ll investigate. When we find out you’re innocent, we won’t apologise for abusing your rights, we’ll just walk away and go and abuse someone else.
To ensure you don’t interrupt him or any other cop ever again … *STOP TALKING TO THE POLICE AND ANSWERING THEIR QUESTIONS!!!*
Officer: “Oh OK” Citizen: “Much, much better than OK”
“Thank you for being professional” It’s like they’re temperamental children who need constant reassurance.
"Miscommunication" in copspeak is just plain old lying
I find it disgusting that in the eyes of the police the auditor is already guilty before they do their investigation. What about the police officer saying sorry to the auditor for falsely accusing him and not checking first of all of doing something he did not do. When they realise they were wrongly accusing the auditor the police officers can’t disappear quickly enough. That’s what they call: THE WALK OF SHAME!!!!!!!!
Even if you did get on the fence, as long as you leave the property when they asked you to, you're not guilty of trespassing.
Our cameras don't lie !
how often are they going to use the "Telephone game" as a reason to illegally detain someone before they fix the issue.... oh right anything that gives them the ability to stop and harass is not really an issue.
This cop just can't handle losing an argument!
For the cop to disparage his dispatchers by associating them with the telephone game is probably against policy.
bullying&entrapment, is what these bozo's do. rookie's,are the most dangerous 1's. these bozo's,never play fair...they just want to score some thing.