"Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be Ian Seabrook" That gave me a good laugh. I thought you might like it Mr Lloyd.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I did sort of like it, sir, but unlike Ian Seabrook, I think that it needs a petrol engine, so I won't be buying one.

@Victor-DOOM

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting I don't talk about diesels either lol

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

@@Victor-DOOM , well done, sir!

I remember the BX well, and yes a lot were of the “Forbidden fuel” variety, the XUD engine was a great engine, and during the 90’s when the government were encouraging people to drive Diesels you’d hear that familiar diesel clatter everywhere. I believe Mr Seabrook has actually owned one or two of these himself, and yes agreed he does love his Citroen’s which is why his car love is his 2Cv called Ellie. I’m suprised this car is a “No budget review” car as it’s very difficult these days to buy any car of this era for a price below £1000, most are well above that. Great review again Mr Lloyd.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can just about still buy a BX for under £1000 with an MOT. The reason I know is because that is how much Mr Jordan Partridge sold his for last year! They are becoming rare, though, at any price. Mr Seabrook would indeed favour the XUD engined ones and obviously the non-turbo version... He has indeed had a few of these before. That clatter is extremely distinctive!

Back in the days. Citroen was the brand for the people that wanted something really different

@jdnrotterdam2150

3 жыл бұрын

And what a brilliant practical car

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

We aim to please, sir! Glad you liked the video. This one genuinely was a bit different, and all the better for it in a 2021 context.

So many memories. I loved my Dad's BX19 GTi. This is a wonderfully cared for car and another terrific review.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

They are really rare now, especially in this sort of condition. It brought back memories even for me! I can understand why Ian Seabrook loves them.

I was fascinated by these as a small child, my dad's friend had one, and I was just blown away by the fact the car would rise up on start up. Initially the BX didn't sell so well in the UK, but once some of that quirkiness from the inside was removed and the best forbidden fuel engine in the world at the time was fitted, it certainly awoke the fleet market. When a petrol powered 1.8 Sierra or Cavalier was getting mid 30's mpg and these were getting around 50mpg on a run, it made them wake up. Certainly, I don't think as quickly it gained popularity, that after dieselgate it would wain so quickly. An excellent review sir.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

We aim to please, sir! Yes, the XUD was certainly well regarded back in the day, although ideally I would have preferred to have driven a nice XU petrol engined 1.9. The BXs were certainly around when I was younger, but we weren't into such weird French stuff in our family, even if my grandfather was half French... He was much happier with Maestros! I can see why Ian Seabrook likes them, they are very different from the normal Sierra or Cavalier.

Another great Ian Seabrook Citroen video, when I was younger I always thought these were space age at the time, one of the boys in my boys brigade , his dad had two cannot remember his first but his second was a k plate possibly and looked mean with black paint and possibly black alloys...

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, a K plate would have been one of the last ones. Certainly, these must have seemed quite futuristic when they were new! Mr Seabrook absolutely loves them, of course...

I'm not surprised that you eventually liked this particular Citroën, as I myself am learning much about the brand. I think the most outstanding feature is the LHM, as it also powers braking and in some Citroëns its steering on top of giving Citroën its unique, extremely comfortable ride. It isolates one from the most horrendous of road surfaces! I actually like the sound of this engine, and yes, it's forbidden fuel, but I do like the sound of an agricultural engine! The sculpting of the front seats reminds me of Peugeot, but the woven fabric, the shape of the front headrests, all uniquely Citroën. I must admit I do like a single windscreen wiper! Another exceptional review Joseph!

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Well sir, you have been watching a lot of Ian Seabrook videos, haven't you? The brakes were remarkably good, similar to a modern car, but with less pedal travel. The ride is good, but not quite good as I was perhaps expecting. You had better not admit to liking too many forbidden fuel engines on this channel, sir!

@frothe42

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting I promise I won't like "forbidden fuel" vehicles! And yes, I have subscribed to HubNut for quite some time, and I admit I like your channel very much!

Been waiting for this one, remember my dad having one of these in early 90s , streets ahead on comfort compared to anything else about then, even better ride than today's cars

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, we got round to it in the end! Indeed, extremely comfortable, the ride is a lot better than many contemporary cars I could mention.

Great video, great car! I never realised some came with windows in the C-pillar! As you said, when left to stand the back would drop right down which always looked very odd next to other 'normal' cars when I was a child (I thought they were broken!). My folks opted for a more conventional 405 instead but can see some similar switchgear and of course the rattly XUD engine which sounds just like I remember.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

Жыл бұрын

I am ever so sorry, but once again the KZread algorithm seems to have hidden your comment for the last two years, so please accept my apologies for being slow to respond!

@toddnelson5132

Жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting Not at all, very kind of you to take the time now!

Great to see this car on the channel. A neighbour had the estate version in period. I was never a fan but now o think these BX and XM look fantastic. I wish the current gen electric cars were styled by Bertone and looked like they are from am 80s Sci Fi movie. In fact those old forbidden fuel engines probably wouldn't be missed if a conversion was on the cards.

@markonmotoring

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting They certainly don't. SUV type cars are heavy and less aerodynamic. A low slung slippery profile like the BX and XM would be great as electric cars. They still look futuristic too.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

Жыл бұрын

I am afraid the good old algorithm has once again buried your comment for over two years...

My Father in Law owned a 1991 1.7 TGD. It was not top of the range but was more powerful, comfortable and better equipped than the 1984 Vauxhall Cavalier 1.6 DL that it didn't replace but ran alongside for 2 years. That Cavalier Hatchback was cavernous. However, the Citroën's long distance comfort and economy were unsurpassed. The gearchange was a little notchy but never deteriorated over time and only needed to be used sparingly with the torque. The non power steering had good feel, the grip was tenacious and traction on snow was amazing. The only failing was the suspension getting caught out by hump backed bridges and bottoming out,easily countered once discovered Lol. The hydraulic suspension lends itself easily to magic carpet ride and firm self levelling sporting handling. That Mk 2 Cavalier 1.6 D just seemed to work and never break. It was of course very slow but always got to its destination without fail. Made the BX 1.7 TGD seem to be a GTI. 🤣

@lloydvehicleconsulting

Жыл бұрын

I am ever so sorry, but once again the KZread algorithm seems to have hidden your comment for the last two years, so please accept my apologies for being slow to respond!

You'll be wearing sandals next great review of great car.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I stop at the sandals, sir, but certain unusual words did creep into my vocabulary along with a certain shot of the wiper, for some reason..

Wow Joseph you got your hands on a stunning car there mate I remember driving these back in 88 when I worked at a garage all citroens Inc the AX and loved the BX. Nice car and a credit to the owner

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir! Yes, I was blessed to be able to drive this one. They are very different from most of their contemporaries. The AX may be even rarer than the BX these days!

I used to love the seats in my neighbours old Renault 21 Savanna, they were also very comfortable. Do you remember the comfort of those?

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, some friends actually had a Renault 21 Savanna with seven seats when I was growing up. They were quite squishy.

I’m going to test drive some cars Saturday. Littlebit looking around at the dealers. Hoping they have some demo’s to drive with. Buy i will make a nice this of it tomorrow. I hope i will get enough information. And get a little wiser about what i want. Sometimes you come home with something totally different than expected

@lloydvehicleconsulting

Жыл бұрын

Thank you again, sir, two years too late.

I love Citroen’s 1980s 'octagon on wheels’. Would have loved to have owned one back in the day when there were still plenty of used ones to choose from, or a Visa. Is that two electric window switches on the driver’s door? Someone near where I live has a circa 1990 model in grey.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, two electric switches on the driver's door, sir! A distinctive car which is now incredibly rare... Glad you enjoyed it!

So I've been looking for a good BX diesel for a while now so bought one. Not just any one....I now own F32 YNH! YES..This is now my BX and I love it very much. The last BX I had was a 1.6 litre petrol Meteor edition, 1992 J reg.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting! This was a surprisingly popular video, even if meant breaking all the usual rules of my channel in order to film it....

I never understood the appeal of Citroens as a child. Any friends we had with them always seemed to be fixing them. That said I think they look tremendous now and I love all the quirks. A friend has just saved an A reg one in a wonderful beige colour and it looks tremendous. Was that the same engine that ended up in LDV vehicles and the Tata Safari?

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the XUD was used in the Tata Loadbeta, but not the Safari, which used the older Indenor engine. It certainly was in the old LDV Pilot, though! The BXs are very, very rare now, they weren't very appealing to me back in the day, but I did find it much more fascinating to drive with the benefit of hindsight. It's a very distinctive design in 2021, that is for sure.

@markonmotoring

3 жыл бұрын

I'm.the same, didn't really have much appreciation for them in period but have aged fantastically.

The indicator and wiper stalks are also in the AX

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful, yes, I am sure that they must have been! Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting.

Had one - mine was 4 speed ZF autobox, no turbo. Kept it to 100,000K, very few problems and it never broke down.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting! Interesting, I don't know much about the automatic BXes at all.

I missed out on one of these instead I had the Peugeot 405 which was a nice car but I would of liked the bx too. they look good in red. I once had a xantia but unfortunately I could only afford a cheap one from a salvage company so it was no good and had to go after only 2 weeks wish id saved up for a better one this was back in 2002.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, in some ways I prefer the 405, but it would have to be a petrol one, of course. The Xantias did get quite cheap in the early 2000s, didn't they? I can't remember if Dan has actually sold this car now or not.

The BX retro as they come, time for a GTI?

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Oh sir, if only!

One wiper = no triangle of doom

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, that's why it is Ian Seabrook approved!

@guillaumeromain6694

5 ай бұрын

But then you get a corner of disappointment. Ian was so convincing that I bought a Cx. One wiper too... and it is the best car I've ever owned. By a mile!

I remember a What Car? Magazine group road test from1989 with a difference: £8k cars of varying sizes.Citroen BX 14 Leader Vs Ford Escort mark 4 L or Popular, Peugeot 309 GL, Renault 5 GTX & Austin Metro GTa. The journos decided that the larger and more basic Citroen was the best car with the two better equipped superminis in 4th and 5th place.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a fascinating test, sir! Far, far from the normal sort of one, and all the better for it. Yes, I remember the BX Leader!

I own a a 97 R reg Peugeot 306 dturbo. I've owned it for 19 years, and in original form. The xud engine is superb, it's done 221k now and still performs well. Original engine, gearbox, clutch and turbo, these things really were built from good stuff.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I think that the XUD is one of the strongest engines of the era if you look after them properly and change the cambelt regularly. 300,000 miles or more is not unheard of. Mr Seabrook, of course, loves the 306 too!

@garethjones8047

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting I've changed the cambelt I think 4 times in my ownership. Even as a HGV mechanic myself I dont think it's the easiest task but has to be done. French vehicles of this era were superb in my opinion.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

@@garethjones8047 , funnily enough, the main person who works on my Rover 45 V6 is also an HGV mechanic! He owns an Alfa Romeo 90 with a Busso V6, so he is used to very complicated things... I imagine the XUD is a bit cramped in a 306. Yes, huge sales of PSA cars in the 1980s and 1990s in this country!

Ohhh Goddd! I had one exactly the same as that! I hated it and sold it after 3 weeks!

@lloydvehicleconsulting

Ай бұрын

Well, we shall speak of it no further in that case... Thank you for watching!

I had a citroen c6 for some years. Great wierd auto extream comfort

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

That must have been a wonderful car! Thank you ever so much indeed for watching.

I've never had a BX alas but did once own the car that replaced it - the Citroen Xantia. Funnily enough I would echo Joseph here and describe the ride of that particular car as being 'nothing special' too - although being able to raise the suspension did come in handy on more that one occasion when confronted with a flooded road that lesser vehicles had to refuse!

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the ride was better on this than the last BX that I drove, but it is not quite as revolutionary as I was expecting. The ability to raise or lower the ride height is also quite exciting, though!

I had a bx gti back in the day , it was the most unreliable car I had ever had, lasted 14 months after constant fixing. Shame as it looked really nice inside with good features.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

Жыл бұрын

I am afraid the good old algorithm has once again buried your comment for over two years...

Thanks for this video! Grace Jones and a favourite 'pull back' toy car brought me here! 🙂 Also had a Majorette BX4TC when I was 8. Yes we had this 🛢️😨 powered Citroen in New Zealand. The 1993 review from what was then Auto News mentioned that you needed to press a nipple to start it...Not to be too offensive but we are a sex-obessessed lot down here!

@lloydvehicleconsulting

2 жыл бұрын

We try not to talk about them, sir, but then I wasn't in my right frame of mind on this day, was I? The production life of the BX was surprisingly long, actually. I am not surprised they were sold in New Zealand as well.

@alaricbragg7843

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting Indeed Sir. I would be bold enough to say that this would be one of the best looking 1980s cars ever - especially with a Petrol motor! 😇 Yes and sold as a luxury car here too! Hey it looks better than a Mercedes or BMW of the era!

@lloydvehicleconsulting

2 жыл бұрын

@@alaricbragg7843 , I think that we need to be careful about calling a BX better looking than a W201 or an E30 of the era, sir, as some people may get a bit upset about that...

@alaricbragg7843

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting Fair enough.

Unique and beautiful 👍😊

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting!

Just to inform you Mr Lloyd, I postponed Princess Diana's Ford Escort Ghia for this Hubnut Rip Off Citroën BX Forbidden Fuel review.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Well done, sir! I hope that you feel you made the right choice.

@seancooke4127

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting Absolutely Chief! I believe that England's Wonderful Rose would understand. Thank you again Good Sir.

@seancooke4127

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting the Escort Ghia was worth the wait.

Peugeot 405s&406s are my favourite French car's.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

2 жыл бұрын

We do like a nice V6 engined 406 on this channel....

This was the car that made Diesel worth buying and took it to the next level. I am so glad that the restrictions are being lifted...............on talking and glorifying/celebrating diesel!!

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

That, sir, is incorrect. In a momentary fit of madness, I thought that I had suddenly become Ian Seabrook. The moment had now passed, forbidden fuel cars will be completely banned from the channel going forward, and we don't talk about them any more. Hopefully, there be no more similar momentary fits of madness....

@trabali5168

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydvehicleconsulting its a shame i was enjoying your "momentary fits of madness"!

Something about a BX makes me happy.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

They certainly are happy cars, aren't they?

Forbidden fuel 🤣🤣 diesel makes the world go around. 💨💨💨

@lloydvehicleconsulting

2 жыл бұрын

It does if your name is Ian Seabrook!

wheeltrims are from a later TZD, sorry

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Obviously not a good enough impression of Ian Seabrook, then!

The citroen is an excellent car, I still have my BX GTI and I have made it part of my life.

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I would very much like to try a GTi, but they are very, very rare now! I am not surprised that you don't want to sell yours.

Great Cars Good Motors Including in Turbo Diesel I wanna own all of them

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting.

but love the car itself

@lloydvehicleconsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I think that I know who else possibly loves it even more!