'No Authority, Just Aliveness' - Zoom Meeting 24/08/2022
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I find this communication compelling , particularly because of its ordinariness, with its lack of religious dogma and the usual hippie culture accoutrements of “spiritual” seeking which many seekers tend to adopt. The lack of a teaching, method or indeed hope is just beautiful!
@neildenham-alreadyeverything
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Cheers... In some ways it's surprising that most people prefer to hear that they're not enough, or that what apparently happens is not enough. But then again, it's no surprise at all, because not enough is safe. For the individual, not enough means to survive and continue. Not enough is where the individual seemingly finds meaning and purpose in the seeking for satisfaction... And on it goes... ... Apparently.
@jamehs33
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@@neildenham-alreadyeverything Is that why it is threatening to the me when all its games are up because it can't seek anymore? Also I guess it is threatening when it gets what it wants on some level as it doesn't have to seek?
@neildenham-alreadyeverything
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@@jamehs33 Yes, a communication which offers nothing to the seeker is threatening its reason to exist, which is to seek.
Thanks for doing this Neil. Love listening to ya.
Deadly.😊
Thanks Neil. Is it like all the human bodies are walking around and talking and playing as robots?
@neildenham-alreadyeverything
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Well, yes and no. There is no individual, however, bodies do seem to have certain unique qualities, like a character, thoughts, feelings, emotions, some get together and play guitars or violins, some create art, some tell jokes, some are great cooks, some are attractive (some aren't), etc - but all of that is empty fullness appearing.
@mikebell4435
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@@neildenham-alreadyeverything Thanks Neil, very helpful of you.
A follow up comment to "me and the father are one" - it sounds to me just like not two... has he meant this, I don't know, it doesn't matter. It matters to the "believer". Wholeness just is as it is. If he meant it literally, it just would be another whole and complete fairytale. "The kingdom of heaven is already amongst you, you can't see it, can't point to it..." ... it's already... I think it's just the limited terminology of this time, language of the old Testament, and so on... yeah and it just doesn't matter. Know what he meant, understanding it, will not change anything. "We" are not even talk about this. It's just what's arises.
@neildenham-alreadyeverything
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Yes, I think the gospel of Thomas had some good stuff in it. From what I can remember, anyhow. The kingdom of heaven is inside you and all around you... Lift a stone and I am there... Cleeve a piece of wood and you will find me... Its different lingo, but it does have a non dual feel to some of it. Of course, it later talks about knowing oneself which does digress from a more non dual flavour.
@dexx44
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@@neildenham-alreadyeverything yes a lot of things digress ... especially when an apparent individual claims to "understand" followed by the endeavor to explain it intellectually. That's lovely in these "hard core" ^^ non dual talks, the individual isn't taken into account... that opens the possibility that something beyond words, beyond understanding, can resonate.
I don’t understand why you said with such confidence that the communication isn’t wonderful, cause I think it absolutely is. This is mind blowing beautiful freedom
@neildenham-alreadyeverything
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Yes absolutely. I think I was just teasing a bit. However, the was a point when I was a seeker and this message was somehow heard in deeper way, and it was actually terrifying. The 'me' does not want to die, and this communication is deadly. It is the assassination of spirituality. 😮😊
What are you so inevsted in the way of another one ? You give to them a possible answer but they are the same that you are . But you cannot give something for them . They are, alone, they just imagine something before listening to your words but its just imagination. You cannot approach what they are because they are not real. In your point of view. You create others. But the others are not like a others. They are just themselves in their point of view. What are you so invested to give something that anybody real can take ? Be what you are, nk thinkings no mind and you do the job because there is nothing else but you begin in the point of view that there is a real seeker. If you dont imagine this, you dont do this video. Because if you are what you are there is nothing to say no thinking no mind but you say something, you pretend.
@neildenham-alreadyeverything
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I'm not sure I am entirely understanding what you're saying here, but, I think it's relates to 'is there a real seeker or is it just imagined, or something about believing or not believing in the seeker' (?) - to which I would say, for the seeker, seeking seems absolutely real, separation seems real, and of course for the person the person seems real, no matter how hard one may close their eyes and try not to believe that they are a person who is separate and seeking, that's just not how that appearance is from within the dream of I am. So the seeking is not denied or believed. It actually has nothing to do with beliefs. The meetings, and the conversations therein are simply a response to that seeking energy as it appears. And, of course, the response is that there is no one living in separation already.
@jacobmike7169
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@@neildenham-alreadyeverything but there is no no one. There is no one in particular. Not idea of someone. But there is the being. What you are absolutely. You say the negative you are not the seeker ok but you never say what the seeker is in nature. Ok its all concept to use and to put on a subject. But whats the subject? You never say what it is? Its you real you. What you are. If you are what you are there is absolutely no appareance. Simply me.
@neildenham-alreadyeverything
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@@jacobmike7169 Okay, there isn't a subject. The suggestion is that there is no one to be separate as a being or anything like that. This is a talk about so called non duality, if that wasn't clear. Best wishes.
@jacobmike7169
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Nobody needs this suggestion because there is only i. But I is only my self there is nothing else. Why there is this proposition for an other who is not real ? See in you and stay with you and you see that there is only you. Making questions and answers.