The Recon Grappler seems to be a Terra Grappler replacement. Let's face it one of the best things about the Ridge Grappler is that it's arguably the best looking off-road tire. Surely they wanted to retain the desirability that the Ridge Grappler has. I think I am going to give the Recon a try. It is interesting that you consider the Recon as more aggressive because it doesn't quite appear that way to me. I'd like to see the same sizes compared.

@timothygonzalez6679

9 ай бұрын

I agree with you, to be honest I think he may have just confused the 2 tires in the end. It wasn’t consistent with what he said throughout the video. I think the ridge grappler was the more off-road focused with on road manners and the recon was more on road focused with some off-road capability

the ridge grappler is more aggressive. nitto even says so themselves.

I would love to see a more real world comparison rather visual comparison. Let us see DB level, MPG, weight, traction, braking, etc of a video.

@jamesnm21

2 жыл бұрын

Nitto's are some of the heaviest tires on the market so not good for mpg. Falkens as well. Unless you need a 3 ply sidewall for extra durability and stiffness there are better options.

@nabatron21

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesnm21 such as

@user-fy4yd9tz4w

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. I’m more concerned about their performance in the snow which he said would be the grappler. This video was not much of a comparison as it was a promotion for the recon. I’ll have to find a video for the grappler

At least where I live, the Ridge Grappler is the go to tire for every jacked up pick up truck that has never and will never see a trail in its life. Very interested in this new Recon grappler, glad to have more options. Toyo's Open Country ATIII is similar and also very good for overlanding.

I’m sticking with my Ridge Grapplers! They have gotten me through everything I put them through.

Just an FYI, the crew at Lite Brite took there Braptor fitted with these Recon grapplers to the Arctic Circle and didn't appear to have any issues with the multitude of snow and ice conditions.

Personally on my 2rd set of Ridge Grapplers after a 1st set of Terra Grapplers, all 35x12.5x18. Averaging about 55k miles on both the Terra and Ridge. All sets have been to the tip of Baja and back at least twice, using mostly dirt roads. Plenty of snow drift deep snow in the Eastern Sierras, and been all over the western United States including Moab and through many of Colorado's western dirt passes. I can say the Ridge Grappler might be the only set of tires I ever purchase for my trucks going forward. 120,000 miles on the F150 and about 30-35k of that off pavement, I have found my tire. My last truck ran only BFG. You don't know, till you know. The Recon might be great, but won't change my mind.

I had ridge grapplers and drove through 32’ snow drifts in Michigan and they didn’t miss a beat, they did great in snow IMO

@sidepass

Жыл бұрын

My Ridge Grapplers have horrible wet on road performance. These Recons look like a better option but you loose the snow rating so chains will be needed for the kiddy slopes.

possibly next tire vs the Ridge Grappler. Had Ridge Grapplers..awesome tire. Went to Geo X-AT...liked it better but as she sees more mileage they get slightly louder. Need 37x12.5x20. Looking for a quiet AT to handle the weight of a F250. Ill sit tight till more sizes come out..

I need myself some that recon grappler, the coldest it’s been where I live is about 65, I don’t need snow rated tires for my rig lol

The Toyo A/T trial is a grate tire too on and off road.

Always been a Mickey Thompson Baja fan, but these look good...

Thanks for the video. I see they have a 285 that’s not too heavy. I forgot the size at the moment. I’m looking for something beefy for my F150 CC but don’t want to loose comfort and power.

Definitely like the look of both, just debating which ones I’d want more on the new Trail Boss. But depends on which would work better on the Oil Patch roads up here in Northern Alberta

@jamesnm21

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the Firestone X/T. It's over 10 pounds lighter than these and gets great reviews in all categories including toughness. It's a newer hybrid tire. These heavy tires will kill your mpg big time.

New game: every time you hear the word "grappler" in this video.........drink!!!!!

I have a little over 60k on my ridge grapplers and and due for a new set soon. Hoping for some real road noise comparisons soon. The ridge grapplers are pretty quiet on the road. But the 55k warranty on the recons has me interested.

@jamesnm21

2 жыл бұрын

Nitto's are heavy. Like bricks. Weight kills mpg. Check out the Firestone X/T. It's literally 10 pounds lighter in the E range and is a great all-surface hybrid with great reviews.

@professorFG

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesnm21 Those Firestone XT's is a good looking tire and you're right it's 10 pounds lighter than Nitto's. Thanks!

I did some research and purchased another set of Ridge Grappler. The Recon compound was too soft for the rocks dirt and heat of Texas!

@ryansheard8092

2 жыл бұрын

Really?? I live in the Houston area and am about to purchase another set of tire for my F150. I do about 75% on road but 25% off road in E TX. I was leaning Recon but you think it's a softer rubber? Should I stick with Ridge? I like the idea that Recon is quieter on road.

I think the recon's tread looks interesting...middle tread blocks are separated by cuts that are kind of tree-like in that each cut branches off from a slightly bigger cut. Wonder if there is some noise or traction benefit to that

@jamesnm21

2 жыл бұрын

I think they just tryna look cool and different mostly. Lol. Lego tires. Heavy as bricks too. Mpg killers.

I’m still trying to wonder how they’ll compare. Shoulder lugs look like it has the same spacing in the voids. It’s extremely similar to the ridgegrappler so I wonder if a ridge grappler update is on the way

Very great tire .

My 34” Ridge Grapplers are quiet as hell on the the highway. I can’t hear them at all. They’re amazing.

@tonysilveira30

2 жыл бұрын

Which size is 34" I'm looking for a 34" tire

@edleifer6719

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonysilveira30 295/60 x 20 is essentially a 34 inch tire by 11.5 inches wide

The recon is the little brother for the ridge, the Terra seems to be on its way out, and I think the recon is a competition to the open country at3. Since the Terra isn't getting an update and seems to not be selling as much anymore

The middle part of the Recons look similar to the toyo RT.

Recon would be seem better for road use.

I just picked up some recon grapplers, while not 3 peak rated they are M+S rated. Maybe they were updated since the video was made?

Recon grapplers are definitely the way to good. Grabbed a set soon as they came out & love them . One of the most aggressive A/T I've seen.

@tomlang9177

2 жыл бұрын

How are they on the road?

@jamesnm21

2 жыл бұрын

Nitto's are mpg killers. Heavy as bricks. Same with Falkens. The Firestone X/T is over 10 pounds lighter and performs well on all surfaces and gets great reviews in all categories including toughness. There are other lighter options out there as well.

@TheNewps

Жыл бұрын

"One of the most aggressive A/T I've seen." Hum what???...:). How does it compare to the least aggressive M/T?

@jamesbandazewski6306

Жыл бұрын

Ok I have a 2020 PowerWagon I put MTs on there took them off in thirty days. Put on Nitto Recons 33x12.50 quiet riding and my MPG went up 1-2 mpg. Now take note I use cruise as much as I can. Excellent tire though

@DMattern1

Жыл бұрын

Hey I'm planning on buying a set of the recons and would like to know what you think about them as far as road noise goes? I currently have the ridge grapplers (35/12.5/22) and I've noticed that they have gotten pretty loud after about 8k miles. Any info on this would be appreciated!

I thought it was the other way around. Everything I've read so far say the recon is supposed to be the more on-road highway option with the ridge being more off rugged areas?

I have a 2012 ram 2500 with a 5 inch lift. Should I Go with ridge or recon? I do more road driving than anything.

Man, I wish they would have made it 3 peak rated. I think they missed an opportunity here. I wish they would make the ridge grappler 3 peak since it's a bit more of an on road tire . Looks cool tho

@briancoburn5320

3 жыл бұрын

You need to look at the new Micky Thompson boss A/T. 3 peak certified and what a cool looking tire! I'm sure will out perform all of nito tires to include the rest!

@kernmw10

3 жыл бұрын

The ridge grappler is more aggressive than the recon grappler. Nitto says so themselves. The ridge grappler is a hybrid all terrain and mud terrain. The recon grappler is just an all terrain.

The ridge is a hybrid a/t and mud... The recon is a hybrid a/t and ...hybrid lol. So the recon is less mud than a ridge... But more than an a/t... Basically a super aggressive a/t, it also has an extra ply on the sidewall than the terra, which only has 2.

All depends on how you use your vehicle. Both will work well, on/off road. One will be a bit quieter on road.

@derekdurham8289

Жыл бұрын

Which will be more quiet?

@wesbarcus3761

Жыл бұрын

@@derekdurham8289 Way I see it, maybe the recon grappler. Listen to the first minute of the video, he says maybe. Not really very clear. Nitto can tell you better than I can. Both should be quieter than mud tires, should last longer too.

90,000 miles plus on my 35 17 g2's rotated every 5k and so damn quiet afraid not to buy the same G2s very soon

@edleifer6719

2 жыл бұрын

Terra Grapplers go forever, I usually sell my vehicle before that Terra Grapplers were out.

would the recon grapplers be better for daily driving since it's "quieter"? curious since you mentioned the ridge grappler is more for on road vs recon for more off road

I was told and sold the Ridge grappler. Here in Texas. Said it was better!!! Than the recon.

Comparing apples to apples between the ridge grappler and the recon grappler, is the treadwidth (not section width) the same?

Isn't the Recon a level before the Ridge Grappler when it comes to off road, so making it the little brother? It has mileage warranty so it's built a bit more for on road while still having great off road capabilities.

Have ridge on my f150 have 50k miles on them and still have half tread still! Sticking with ridges!

@TrailBuilt

5 ай бұрын

Right on!

I’ve seen many videos saying that the ridge grapplers are more aggressive there for more noisy, this video says recons are more aggressive but less noisy 🤔

Which one is easier to balance?

The real question for me being in NY, is the winter/snow performance, and there's hardly any info out there. Shame they didn't add better siping for snow. LOVE the way these look and would like to purchase them, but can't make a confident purchase if it turns out they suck in the snow,

@TrailBuilt

9 ай бұрын

Fair enough! For the snow in NY I personally would suggest either, Wildpeak AT3W from Falken, or Blizzak tires for specifically the winter.

Ya ive never understood the raves about x terrains or all terrains its fine for hwy but i live on 10 miles of hard packed gravel roads in texas and i never had issues now with 3 sets of my Toyo M/T’s 35/1250’s and 37/1250’s this last time on my 22ram cummins i made a stupid call and went with the ridge grappler thus far im not impressed got about 20k on them now and very disappointed in the looks vs my mts duh i know not the tires fault but it matters. The handling in our washed out roads and potholes have been meh at best with the ridge graps and tho its not a bad tire i wont buy any all terrains again i think i just expect too much like i would from my mts and the ats category doesnt check all the boxes for me Just put a set of 2854522 recons on the wifes 2016 tahoe ltz and the look good we will see if it holds up to the rocks out here just had a Michelin hwy the dealer put on have a nasty bite from a rock and it cut thru the metal huge chunk so our roads will definitely test whatever we use daily Sorry not trying to go long just food for thought and my .02 cents nobody really asked for lol

I have/ had several sets of Ridge Grapplers .35s on F250 33s on jeep wrangler 33s on f350 Dually i have been getting 80-90k miles out of them with regular rotations . Any idea on longevity wear characteristics?

@davidanderson8469

Жыл бұрын

80K on a 250?

I have 3312.50 r20 Recon grappler on my Silverado the ride is smooth

@jam2404

2 жыл бұрын

Smooth like the factory tires?

@CT--mo3ng

2 жыл бұрын

@@jam2404 yeah. but I got rid of them cause they were heavy

Is the 3 peak snow rated over rated ? Can you do a video about that comparing like kinda tires that aren’t rated ?

@TrailBuilt

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it is overrated as they are put through a certain amount of tests, however, depending on the amount of snow you are dealing with it could prove to be useless

3 ply sidewall?

I have a 2012 ram with a 5" lift. I want to replace my 295/55/20s (33s) with 35 ridge grapplers but should I get the 11.5 or the 12.5 version?

@TrailBuilt

2 жыл бұрын

Do you get a decent amount of snow where you're from? If so, I would suggest the 11.5 - otherwise I would go 12.5

I just bought a set of Recon Grapplers. They have absolutely zero road noise and ride like highway tires. Winter performance is no concern for me

What about soft sand mate ? Are they good for the Beach ? ⛱️

You guys still liking the Recon? Looking for something for a F150 that’s not to heavy. 34-34 “ ish. I appreciate anything you got

@TrailBuilt

Жыл бұрын

The Recon is a great tire! Otherwise I really enjoy the Wildpeak AT3W's from Falken! www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/store/tires?sort=popular&year=2020&make=Ram&model=1500%20Classic&drive=4WD&DRChassisID=49345&vehicle_type=Truck&width_from=34&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0

Which one wood do better in a rainy conditions? That’s my biggest thing. I have a Chevy Silverado 1500 z71 with a 2” leveling kit. It’ll never be off-road so rain is my biggest issue

@TrailBuilt

Жыл бұрын

I would go with the Recons! Plenty of good reviews online about their handling in the rain!

@jasonguthrie728

3 ай бұрын

I'd certainly consider the Recons as well. My 33 Ridge Grapplers on my 2door wrangler are NOT inspiring when it rains. I can easily slide sideways in the rear at almost any corner.@@TrailBuilt

How many miles on streets can I expect on the Trail Grappler MT on a crew cab 1500?

@edleifer6719

2 жыл бұрын

not many

We need the facts from nitto Cause I love terra but ridges keep looking good except the price tag that comes with them

@Motleymick

Жыл бұрын

You get what you pay for J.

Hello trail built. Can we buy this new Recons 35 x 12.5 x 20 from you now ? I understand they were on back order. Thx a bunch.

@TrailBuilt

3 жыл бұрын

This is what we have available: bit.ly/3rdMX09

@edleifer6719

2 жыл бұрын

Nitto went with an 11.5 and a 13.5 inch in the 35 inch Recon Grapplers, don't really know why because the 12.5 seems the most popular of the sizes.

how is the mileage in Recon vs Ridge? i spend more time on roads than I do off roads, so highway performance as far as MPG goes is important to me.

@TrailBuilt

Жыл бұрын

The Recon gets 23 mpg vs the Ridge grapplers which are about 15-17 mpg!

I wonder if the Recons will be better in snow than the Ridge Grapplers

@Motleymick

Жыл бұрын

No, they're not. Ridge for snow.

Are ridge grapplers three peak snow rated or no?

@Icutmetal

3 жыл бұрын

No.

Should mention the recon has a 55k mile warranty and nothing on the ridge graps..

It's funny how the tire makers seem to be making tires that are more and more like the BFG KO2.

@chrisboyer5357

2 жыл бұрын

Better you mean

@the_atomic_punk487

Жыл бұрын

Way cheaper than ko2 also.

Would you go with the recon grapplers or the ridge grappler’s? I live in the south and get no snow but lots of rain I’m in the process of putting in an order as we speak

@Blue_Flame_Raptor

3 жыл бұрын

Recon for sure, the rain performance is improved

@Mistah_J_786

3 жыл бұрын

@@Blue_Flame_Raptor I ended up buying a set of ridge grapplers. I got them for a great price brand new all 4 tires for $800 33x12.50 I could pass that deal up. Lol I’ll try the recon grapplers after these.

@jeremiahnolen9083

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mistah_J_786 where you get such s good deal??

@Mistah_J_786

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremiahnolen9083 I have a buddy that manages a tire shop.

@the_atomic_punk487

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mistah_J_786 same

Random but anyone know what wheels the jeep is riding on in the recon grappler video?

@TrailBuilt

3 жыл бұрын

I will try and find out!

@nabatron21

3 жыл бұрын

@@TrailBuilt thanks brutha

@nabatron21

3 жыл бұрын

@@TrailBuilt found out they are black rhino wheels

From what I've heard the ridge grapplers arent great in rain. These look like theyd be even worse. Even rated .5 lower on nittos site

@Futurebeefcake

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m a bit disappointed because In the rain the nittos I have are acting the same as the corsa highway tires and they spin out going from a stop sign.

@handsmcneil

2 жыл бұрын

@@Futurebeefcake dang thats a bummer theyre probably the best looking tires out there rn

55k warranty on recon. Nothing on ridge. I only got 40k on my ridge.

I'm here and I'm back again, to talk smack bout these new recon Grapplers. Although I do believe it's going to be a good tire, I see it as redundant. It looks like a hybrid! I'm sorry, maybe if it were at least 3peak moutain snowflake rated I wouldnt talk smack bout em.

@TrailBuilt

3 жыл бұрын

Love the thoughts!

@simonsays582

3 жыл бұрын

@@TrailBuilt , yeah I talked a lot of smack about the Toyo AT3's when they first came out.... but I still bought em. 😝

@simonsays582

3 жыл бұрын

@@TrailBuilt I've put 16k and abused them with mudding, Alaskan winter, tons of highway miles, got nails and screws in them, countless dirt roads and these AT3's still look freaking brand new.

A 4x4 with an A/T tire shouldn’t have any problems in the snow. No need for people to get their panties in a bunch over a “snowflake” rating.

@justingeer6131

Жыл бұрын

Bro ... I’m running M/T’s from Yokohama ... and let me agree with you first ... I have no issue in Idaho snow ... here’s the deal though ... kinda ignorant if you do any research, to say it isn’t a good thing to have snow rated tires. It is. It’s a personal preference on how comfortable YOU are ... your / my 4x4 vehicle does nothing for you stopping ... and getting going is just as important in hilly terrain ... the more grip the better Now I will say it another way ... I don’t buy my tires for the snow rating either ... but I’m not about to try and discredit the ones that are. Just saying ... cause it’s mind blowing they would bring that out without it ... given the ridge is already in play without it Watched litebright nation put the recons through some gnarly crap on a bronco raptor just recently ... and damn ... it’s gonna be recon or Baja boss for me ... I can’t decide

Both are very slippery I prefer something else better traction thank 🙏 you anyway

@dominiquebrown2890

Жыл бұрын

Do you have personal experience?

Recon, not a serious tire. No 17" or 18" sizes. WOW

@TrailBuilt

3 жыл бұрын

Not yet...

@steveeichelberger806

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously not meant for off roaders. Another mall crawler tire.

@shaunr5450

2 жыл бұрын

They have them now.

@marcm8209

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaunr5450 Not really. 3 sizes. HAHA. they certainly do not want to hurt the Ridge Grappler sales. I just went to another Brand, enough Nitto's for me ! Mediocre tread depth, very heavy for an LT too.

@shaunr5450

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcm8209 ya I hear ya, pretty weak options so far. I have another year or so on my Falken Rubitreks, but if the reviews stay solid and they get the snowflake rating by then the Recons will be my next tire.

My research says Ridge over Recon for the dirt, rock, and heat of Texas. Recon ends up having a softer compound that doesn’t make sense.

Why would anybody use a 20" wheel and tire offroad? Shitty flex,no air downed protection for the wheel and expensive as heck.

@SharkBoy87

11 ай бұрын

It's common to see A/T's on 22's. It's common to have that aggressive look. Naturally you'd want 18's with great tires, maybe 35-37's if you can manage. How many are going to Baja with their Raptor or TRX?

@kevinstarski1598

8 ай бұрын

All show, no substance...the way of the world these days...

Sooo you really don’t know