Important: wash your stuff with detergents not containing colour brighteners. Brighteners will make your clothes glow in nightvision

@giannizen3775

10 ай бұрын

Don’t wash your clothes to become the ultimate warrior

@giannizen3775

8 ай бұрын

@@ThePhantomGodofNight to be able to smell you, they will already be too close

@MasterFancyPants

3 ай бұрын

Unironically, no you aren't supposed to wash your gear. If it really needs be cleaned, just rinse in water.

I dropped one of my PVS14s in favor of using one PVS14, and an AGM Taipan. It's a bit awkward if you're accustomed to dual tubes, but once you acclimate to the square image of the thermal over one of your eyes, it's honestly much more effective. I'm a right handed shooter, so my thermal sits over my left eye, running a top dot to passive aim with my right.

@AnonEMus-cp2mn

Жыл бұрын

Going into an exercise experimenting with a 14 on the left eye and a thermal monocular on the right eye. The thermal is clip-on compatible, so it can be quickly mounted and retain a similar sight picture. Time will tell if loosing the ability to passive-aim through the 14 is worth the setup. I did not go with a dual dovetail bridge to swap things around easily.

@BuckFoeJiden

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonEMus-cp2mn you can still passive aim with a top dot, just tilt inboard and aim through your left eye. Only works in close quarters unless you zero the dot specifically for left eye shooting in a right handed stance. I personally prefer a ~65 yd zero (75 in 20" and 55 in 10.5" barrels) Makes the dot more useful at range during daytime shooting.

@BuckFoeJiden

Жыл бұрын

@bLackstar rich? Nah. I just save my money and do side hustles for the stuff I want.

@SomeNavySEALs

Жыл бұрын

Which Taipan do you use? I had discounted them in favor of the FLIR due to form factor, I assumed they were purely observation monocles at that price point. Are they all dual-bridge compatible?

@BuckFoeJiden

Жыл бұрын

@@SomeNavySEALs if you'll give me about ten minutes, I'll get you the model number of the one I use. They use tripod mount, I believe the only one that doesn't have a tripod mount is their cheapest monocular ($~300-400 iirc)

I wouldn't be surprised if the military is looking into training AI to identify humans across the visible and non visible spectrums. A vehicle could probably mount the necessary equipment to do this. Camouflage is certainly becoming a more complex topic, and it seems (for now) that a high tech professional military's detection ability is outpacing concealment. Thanks for the great video, I subscribed!

@westphalianstallion4293

9 ай бұрын

Ever wondered why google asked you in which picture is the motorcylce? Humans are hunters by evolution, the pattern recognition of humans is unmatched. At the end of the day on thermals and IR you go for contrast, for everything more complex you need the human to indentify a target.

@off6848

8 ай бұрын

They make armed robots with ai targeting now and they can’t identify enemy over friendly

@thatoneguy5007

8 ай бұрын

There’s a funny story about this marines tricked it by doing flips and hiding in a box moving towards it.

@off6848

8 ай бұрын

@@thatoneguy5007 The old Metal Gear I read about that I fw those guys whoever they are thats funny

I think the reality of modern war is technology forces strategy to constantly be in favor of a VERY strong defense, and makes offensive tactics practically suicidal. Just as it was in WW1 with the machine gun as it is now with advanced optics, radar, missiles and artillery you're better off NOT going on the offensive and instead just using the tools listed above to make your defensive position unassailable unless the other side is ok with taking on mass causalities every time they attempt a blitz.

@ethanbarnes3973

Жыл бұрын

Until you leave the wire.

@Br0ckR0cket

Жыл бұрын

homie doesn't understand how combined arms maneuver warfare works and it shows.

@johnsmithwesson9996

Жыл бұрын

I think the opposite based upon Warfare we have been waging for years and observing Ukraine. Ambush, clandestine strikes, direct action strikes hard and fast and generally being on the offensive is allways better than defence. You lose the advantages when you're defending. You gain the advantage when you are the attacker

@nameUnknownUser

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's a pretty ignorant statement. The modern battlefield is more complicated, but the tools of today enable offensive operations like never before. I'd argue that a true peer vs peer war between the US and China would end up being much more maneuver based than many people think. The only way to defeat many of the systems such as smart artillery, drones, and missiles is to simply not be where they are going to strike, or to quickly shoot them down. Movement is essential to that. It is my belief that battles of the future will be much quicker, and far more violent than those of the past, with many more moving parts and domains of operation to them

@nameUnknownUser

Жыл бұрын

@GDuff123 as a student of combined arms, I can tell you that we don't all agree that we might as well do nothing in the face of technology. The tech of today makes defenses stronger, but it also makes offense much more potent. I don't care how fortified of a position you have, I can destroy it. If I have good intel that I gained using drones, mixed with naval, drone, or conventional smart bunker busting artillery, it is comically easy to fuck up defenders. Throw some tanks into the mix, as is standard for almost all nato combined arms forces, and offenses are still much more potent then you're giving them credit for.

Great video. So many things to consider when out on a patrol or just keeping a low profile when outdoors. And thank you for the English version of these videos.

As to plate cerriers and pouches invisibility in night vision, from our experience in Ukraine, just get a can of deep matt paint (olive, coyote or tan) and spray all your gear. Works great. Cause you'd be surprised, but often even high cost gear and clothes (e.g. 5.11) are highly visible in infrared spectrum devices.

@ripperkon

Жыл бұрын

Thx for the tip. I also made good experience with EC paint. Stand-alone it is almost too dark. But on shiny nylon gear it helps to create a pattern. Do you recommend a specific brand of paint?

@thebattlebees

Жыл бұрын

@@ripperkon I use Bosny camo car paint. It dries really fast and is deep matt

@drnage4495

Жыл бұрын

5.11 is considered high cost?

@thebattlebees

Жыл бұрын

@@drnage4495 yep, compared to other Ukrainian brands and army issue gear it is about twice as expensive

@xshorty117x

Жыл бұрын

Tell us about zelensky ethnically cleansing Russian parts of ukraine then blaming Russia. Like how zelensky attacked donbas and donetsk with missiles then pretended it was "the Russians"

Anyone that says nir camo is useless is just wrong. Part of this story is my fault BUT I loaded up with cheap gear that I believed was just as good as it held up while going out and touching grass. I finally got my hands on some night vision and realized my gear glows like a Christmas tree under IR. I'd have stuck out like a signal flair out in the woods at night.

@dj1NM3

9 ай бұрын

You might want to wash it a few times in detergent which doesn't have "whiter than white" optical brighteners, because that will make even the otherwise best materials seem to glow in IR.

@Auto5k

4 ай бұрын

Is this true as soon as you have some distance with the observer ? Watch Dirty Civilian's latest video on signature reduction, they do the test and at distance, you really can't see the difference between NIR treated and not.

@MasterFancyPants

3 ай бұрын

You can increase nir resistance, by rubbing dirt on it.

I’ve looked into thermal camo and there is few options, but when available it’s a sheet for $400

@DJ-zn1nt

Жыл бұрын

Relv camo

Appreciate the video, most of my kit has been focused around getting legit Multicam NIR fabrics, especially any outward visible pouches, plate carrier, or uniforms. In SHTF situation, our boys here will be using thermal and nods we'll need every advantage we can get. Inner pouches, admin stuff that is hidden away can be coyote or grey.

Hey Kon 🤙 Wieder ein TOP Video von dir 👌 Weiter so 💪😀

Thanks 🙂 Concamo is in DE very nice pattern, i use UK MTP + DPM, and cz.95 and BW camo and OCP US camo.

ya know, i think the next advancement in camo should be optical illusions and using perspective to look like a natural object

@off6848

8 ай бұрын

This

Great overview about NIR clothing topic!

Do the older, filmed gen3 green phosphor tubes see in NIR ? Thanks

Great video very informative and thanks for sharing!

I absolutely love your videos. Thank you for posting things like this so us other people can understand what we may need to get instead! I’ve been trying to build a kit and this helps so much!

How much does it matter when at night and at a distance of more than a few meters? Can we get some of that footage?

NIR considerations for your PPE directly on your person [plate carrier, helmet cover, uniform, layer whatever, etc] thermal camoflauge considerations for your stationary positions/entrenchments. camo netting, spectralflage blanket, etc. disguising thermal while on-the-move is very difficult, but your NIR is very possible to do while moving and still matters because of rudimentary technologies like hunting cameras and whoever else has NVG capabilities other than yourself. definitely shouldn't be slept on.

@ryaniam22

Жыл бұрын

Fighting against a first world peer adversary with thermal would be practically impossible to go undetected. But as a civilian I think if you have a single pvs14 and a red dot on your rifle you will have a huge advantage over 99% of the population in a wrol situation. If you had a thermal you'd be able to compete with corrupt local police forces. Even training to defeat a whole other army who also has thermal goggles and night vision sounds depressingly difficult lol

i’ve heard to use ekspot soaps does anyone know if that actually works?

Is the colour ranger green generally IRR? Or does it come down to the material or coating?

@planetcaravan2925

10 ай бұрын

Material and coat

Hey Kon, could you try something in NIR? Take rough linen in brown and in olive, put boiled lineseed oil on half of each, and then half of that mix in the chalk. I really want to know if oilcloth can be made NIR compliant.

@thespartenkid

11 ай бұрын

Oils shine so I get the inclination would be to taint a silicone impregnation with a hard matte partical. As others have said, you may as well dust your kit with NiR spray paints. Problem may be you have to deal with scents..

@xxxm981

11 ай бұрын

But do they shine in NIR is the big question@@thespartenkid

Very interesting thank you for sharing

What about hiding from thermal scopes? I know UF PRO in Germany has supposedly invented a camo complete suit to hide from thermal & nightvision! “BUT”, It’s only available to military units and not to vets yet!!! Are there any companies that sell this to the general market? I’d like to see you get some uniforms from UF PRO to test and do another episode on KZread! My favorite camo currently is the Kryptek series (Mandrake, & Highlander)! Thanks so much I really enjoy your channel and have learned some things I didn’t know before!

@djmakerzmark

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqqIlLappNjXlto.html this is the camo I was talking about!

@dj1NM3

9 ай бұрын

@@djmakerzmark This suit even somehow makes exposed skin not glow in thermal scopes, so some scepticism might be in order...

I try to get as much Marpat as I can cuz the surplus stuff still has the night vision and thermal coating on it but it's all how you wash your clothes cuz optical brighteners will ruin your camouflage

@DaveSmith-cp5kj

Жыл бұрын

The NIR coat doesn't help camouflage, the whole point of the coat is to prevent the existing pigments from glowing bright. If the clothes are made with good quality fabric the NIR treatment is not needed in the first place as the pigments wont be reflective. Marpat is worth having as it is a nice pattern though. However, in terms of a militia application the key is uniformity than what your actual camo is. This is prevent fratricide. Dark jeans and a green shirt is more effective than people give credit to, and most people already have that in their closet.

@KeterMalkuth

Жыл бұрын

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj While that's true, I'd posit that something like surplus Woodland gear makes more sense. It's also very available, very effective in many environments, and isn't commonly issued by most military forces.

@DaveSmith-cp5kj

Жыл бұрын

@@KeterMalkuth I'm personally of the opinion that camo patterns make you easier to spot. In force on force I've often spotted people in camo patterns because I recognize the pattern, but flat colors I apparently miss. Like when we drape camo net over ourselves, it is crazy hard to spot even though it is a flat color. I don't have hard data to support this though. Might also be moot as everyone is running a thermal device with the ENVG trickling down to regulars. These your thermal signature is a bigger target indicator than anything else as it is the first. I've also sewn velcro armbands and played with randos in airsoft and it really does make a huge difference in being able to identify friendlies even without camo uniformity. I put a thermal sticker on each so I can still identify peeps while using thermal and I believe this eventually will be a standardized concept. Russians have been using this technique ever since their Georgian campaign.

@KeterMalkuth

Жыл бұрын

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj The biggest factor with camouflage- outside of movement of course- is silhouette, I'd say. People can ignore some downright dumb obvious things, as long as they are odd in a way they don't find threatening. A human form is, of course, very distinctive and we recognize it easier than just about anything else. Hence what I think is the biggest consideration with camouflage, not how well you're able to blend into the environment, but how well you're able to disturb your silhouette enough that the eye isn't drawn to you. The armband point is definitely relevant though. Multicam has become the de-facto uniform of choice for special operations across the world. I believe even Russian SOF uses it in some capacity. Given that, if we enter a conflict where dudes in multicam are shooting at dudes in multicam, alternative means of IFF will become vital.

What brand shirt and beanie are those? Great video well done you earned a sub my friend. 👍👍

@Jordan-ql6tm

Ай бұрын

Always looking for shirts without the damn chest zippers, they get annoying after awhile lol

@ripperkon

Ай бұрын

Shirt is by UF Pro.

@Jordan-ql6tm

Ай бұрын

@@ripperkon oh wow thank you brother I appreciate it. Yeah ironically I just ordered their Gen 2 boonie hat yesterday LOL

The US Army nods envg-b have thermal overlay with no noticeable delay. They are pretty awesome

Optical Engineer here (I currently work for Nikon) - Want to know what immediately negates any effort toward 'near infrared camouflage'? Movement of ANY kind. Want to know what negates any effort toward thermal image camouflage? Movement of ANY kind... Long story short, if your enemy has access to NVG's or Thermal Vision equipment, you're effectively fucked... However, if it's aerial thermal you're seeking to evade, then a golf umbrella with a 3x3m camo net draped over it like a tablecloth to sit under does wonders...

very nice video and explanation

Great video!

Hast du das Video auch auf deutsch gedreht?

Dual use of back pack covers from rain and reduce signature,cool. Yeah technology is pretty advance

Thank you 😊

It would be cool if you did this for snow and sandZ

you see the pattern repeat so obviously for the flectarn during the NIR shot

@ripperkon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that’s the problem with the rapport in rotational prints. At least on larger surfaces it can get obvious like there.

The closet I think people normal people get to using this type of nir camo is at overnight airsoft games, 24 - 48 hour events, mostly in EU & America

@Geth-vk

8 ай бұрын

Definitely 🤓

@pache2112

7 ай бұрын

Except when China invades!😳

exelent, thanks from Brasil

Very helpful

FYI it is not great for your tube to be on during bright sunlight even with the daycap on, gen3 devices multiply light so much that even that little pinhole lets in enough light to cause the device to autogain/autobrightness control. It's okay to turn it on with the daycap to test for functionality but you only want to do it for small amounts of time and not in direct sunlight. As for your testing this is not a proper way to test NIR material, there is 1000s of times more light bouncing through the scene then there would be at night(too much light washes out results). The proper way to test NIR is at night from a distance with a IR illuminator.

Amazing

Good video

You can buy a bottle of ir blocking wash, intended for hunters. Some animals can see into the NIR and by using this was you can make your clothes subdued in NIR, all without paint.

@ripperkon

9 күн бұрын

Thx. Could you be so kind and name a brand? I was not able to find it.

@BooDamnHoo

9 күн бұрын

@@ripperkon Oops, I'm a bit off. It isn't NIR block, it's UV blocker. Atsko UV Killer. It blocks blue /white fluorescence seen by many animals and birds, as well NVGs. I've read reports that on SOME camo it does help eliminate the NIR flow but it seems clothing dependent.

Excellent vid

good info clickbait title

Civilian "camo" with nylon and polyester shine with FLIR, IR, and increase body heat signatures.

You really like Ranger Green.

I doi like clothing you have on you. Is ther any chance that you can give some links or informations about your kit?

Yes indeed , more content, always fun and educational for civi population, keep it up, Weapons camouflage and real state. Slow n Smooth Smooth is Fast Cheers

surely the answer is having nods and a thermal in your pack or on the rail. The best defence in a fight is throwing infra red lamps facing the enemy so you can see them like daylight and they cant see you in the shade. light is a weapon of war so you can't rely on your eyes all the time

Your video making very good!!! like you ❤ come from Hong Kong fans

the federal agents look of disbelief as he is over taken by a hoard of starved dogs and I’m witnessing it all with my IR goggles “Hah, his vest wasn’t even NIR”

crucial together with VIS and SWIR

@ripperkon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, totally true.

so TLDW is: NIR for the City, Untreated for the Woods.

Wear IR camo and only operate in areas that are 98.6 degrees F/ 37 degrees C and you're all set

Using a chainsaw at night Using thermal vision just sounds dangerous to me. Is it common?

🙂

the only way to escape all this problems, you have to avoid wars! ir is nice, but a thermal camera is now near as cheap as nightvisiongoogles...and there is no way, to hide from it! greetings... ragnar

You're supposed to put the space blanket under your poncho

@ripperkon

8 ай бұрын

The poncho will heat up differently than the nature.

The other way to counter infrared is by shining infrared light at the infrared, this blinds the infrared, Infrared lights are very expensive.

Give me 10 well trained riflemen in plain old fashioned ODs and no night vision kit vs 10 of your best with all the high tech gear you can afford. Clanking around in the bush like a herd of elephants, and smelling of aftershave and cooked meals, or fidgetting about in their firepits, not paying attention, not taking notes. On a still and moonless night, they dissappear one by one, never to be seen again

why not film at night if you're talking about IR?

@ripperkon

8 ай бұрын

You would see a lot less.

wisible >D

Introducing: tin foil hat, now comes with a suit! ;)

UCP is the top NIR camo and saying NIR camo isn’t effective is silly

jetzt sieht er aus wie Jesus. Wow

German accent gives +10 credibility.

@ripperkon

8 ай бұрын

lul, Danke!

then do the test using using tan colors.

It's funny how often "NIR performance is useless!" Morphs into "you don't need that feature" when questioned. It's just more gate keeping.

@avroarchitect1793

11 ай бұрын

psy op by the government to keep you under armed and under equiped with the latest tech so they maintain an advantage.

Great advice from someone who has never put his life in danger for others. Bravo, you're a real man.

you mean it's NIR useless.

of course it's useless, because absolutely everyone is walking around with a thermal imaging device. people's sanity seems to be declining more and more. tanks don't need armour any more because there are spots where it's easy to get through ....... do you actually notice anything?

@avroarchitect1793

11 ай бұрын

indeed, its like saying Tanks or fighter jets are useless because there are anti tank and anti air missiles.

steinkauz olive? little owl? lol

@ripperkon

8 ай бұрын

Steingrau Oliv ;)

It's called Night Vision. Night! And you reviewed the stuff at day light?????

ech gute videos aber mach doch in Deutsch bitte

Nonsense

@ripperkon

Жыл бұрын

Then please share your wisdom with us 🙏🏻

@turdferguson2863

Жыл бұрын

@@ripperkon the people who say it's useless are speaking nonsense 🤣 Please keep up the great videos know that you're inspiring me to go out and do more rappelling and such. I send your links to my friend group very often, I hope to send pictures of us doing rope stuff under NVG

What a joke material, 35% of milsim players in Poland has some kind of thermal device and there no lag in devices like mh25 ...

@ripperkon

Жыл бұрын

Be so kind and Name the device. Thx for sharing your knowledge with us 🙏🏻

@TacticalTornado

Жыл бұрын

@@ripperkon Iray mh25, Jerry C5, PFN 640 to list some of them.

@TehPrawntier

Жыл бұрын

The mh25 does have some delay, I own one and if anything or you are moving fast it’s very noticeable. *click* *freeze* *update*

the attention grabber clickbait shit in the beginning hurts me physically

@ripperkon

8 ай бұрын

Sorry. I try to do my best to avoid that KZread standard as best as I can. But experience shows, that at least a bit of these methods need to be applied.

Looks like waste of money. The future of night vision devices is augmented reality, ie. motion detection / A.I. threat identification. For stationary observation posts there's always the shovel. 😁

i desagree tottaly what you are talking about,i see a report from a Ukranian Volunterr in the Front and he said that he saw a russian soldier wearing Nir and was a Russian pointer spying Uiranian trenches for Artillery hits that trenches on the day after....so...

@ripperkon

Жыл бұрын

Camouflage is not invisibility. And as I say, it also depends on the environment. So you would say there is no need to consider any NIR camouflage?

Bro, you are using a needle big hole in your NVGs in DAYLIGHT. Do you even know wtf you are doing? Sometimes I question you. Not really any justice in your arguement. Multicam is the camoflage in the world for a reason. Every SF uses it for a reason.

@ripperkon

Жыл бұрын

So I should have used them without daycaps? What do you want to tel me with this? Sure Multicam has got its place. I am not sure how deep you are into camouflage and camouflage patterns. But they usually work with contrast. It there is no contrast, you have no pattern. Nothing wrong about that. Or why would you disagree?

@TURBOSRP

Жыл бұрын

@@ripperkon Used the NVGs during night and compare it with pleb flecktarn.

@ripperkon

Жыл бұрын

@@TURBOSRP So you want a Multicam/Flecktarn comparison at night?

@TURBOSRP

Жыл бұрын

@@ripperkon That'd be justice, aye! Many peeps shit on multicam because of pure cope. But it is the best fkn camoflage ever made.

@JackkDevil

Жыл бұрын

Multicam is only useful for a third or less of the world. North Europe you need something closer to woodland. The same for jungle in Asia and south America White based camos for Arctic places. Even inside a country you need more than one camo. In Greece for example if you fight in mainland you need a camo for leaf and tree background (woodland, greek lizard, Flecktarm) but when you move in the islands multicam is better. You need to consider that multicam was marketed by US for its fighting in Middle East and Africa NOT for Europe or Asia

No matter how useless your Gear ist... Nothing is more useless than the Russian Troops.

@hm_stg

Жыл бұрын

How comes

@VolkZ-wl4ci

Жыл бұрын

Bro they invaded a country with 500k standing army that has mobilized 11 times while taking 200k/km of land while only losing 2k/km of land for the entire year. And with the recent US DOD War leak, You really need to stop taking everything you read or see off of twitter as fact.

@admiralsnackbar2811

Жыл бұрын

You should operate on the assumption that most everything you are told about an ongoing war is less than true. Especially if you live in Russia or a NATO allied country.

@star.soaked.wanderer

Жыл бұрын

*against western weapons

@breadm8101

Жыл бұрын

Because they aren't fighting a incapable force. They are fighting land grabbing US, EU funded terrorists

i HOPE soon the German scientist will FIND a NANO SUIT as in CRYSIS game by CRYTEX Gmbh