Nintendo doesn't want us to play Melee (online)
After 9 months and 18 fantastic iterations, @hungrybox's Coinbox series had reached the end of its short but glorious road. Beginning all the way back in February of this year, the formerly Ultimate-centered event had seemingly become the gold standard for all virtual Melee tournaments, with it regularly garnering well over 200 entrants.
And for its swan song outing, the 18th and final iteration of The Coinbox drew in a whopping 846 players from all over North America, including a multitude of SSBMRank standouts like Magi, Joshman, Salt, Wizzrobe, Hungrybox, and Jmook. This made this Coinbox the second most attended Coinbox ever, behind only the series' inaugural event, which came in at a grand total of 1,024 competitors.
Though it was a bittersweet farewell, a star-studded bracket, along with a gigantic $6,000 prize pool made sure that the final Coinbox went out with a resounding bang. I’m turndownforwalt, and here are the top five performances from The Coinbox 18 in this week’s JV5.
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THATS CRAAAZY!! Nintendo doesnt want us to play melee?! Who woulda thought.
@turndownforwalt
8 ай бұрын
Yes it's just a little quirky and silly that a company doesn't want people to play a video game that they made
@ItsMeChair1
8 ай бұрын
@@turndownforwaltNintendo’s not alone, there is Konami’s P.T.
@TheBirdmon17
8 ай бұрын
yet you all buy their products smfh......thats what you get for siding with the shills.....yall on your own
@incongruous4
8 ай бұрын
@@ItsMeChair1konami recently disqualified every single non japanese player from their big rhythm game world tournament called kac in a very underhanded way making it look like it's the players fault when actually their application system is made specifically to dq anyone not in japan. Everyone's pissed, especially because the rank 1 global ddr player who won the previous kac, imchris4life, got dq'ed and stonewalled when emailing the organizers. Just another day for konami it seems. They also hold patents for mechanics in their rhythm games and aggressively sue other rhythm game companies for copying them to create a monopoly over an entire genre. Some examples, in the groove was sued unsuccessful several times until they succeeded and killed the franchise so ddr has no competitors, djmax got sued, osu and stepmania received legal threats and were forced to remove songs, ez2dj was sued, uma musume was sued, pump it up was sued, rock band almost got sued and settled out of court
@M64bros
8 ай бұрын
@@turndownforwalt I think I know the real reason why they're doing this and I think it's reasonable I don't think Nintendo or any other company or anyone would want to support a disgusting community filled with 35-year-old neck beards who are p3dos and predators behind the scenes that got exposed to public and other terrible crimes and actions the Super Smash Bros community has done. If there's a reason why Nintendo doesn't want to support them is because of those actions, the Super Smash Bros community is awful and it always will be
Man, the effort put in those is absolutely insane. Even if the editing is streamlined, to get something that good with so few people (and on a regular basis!) is so impressive. This is the kind of content that esports need more than ever. Great stuff :)
Maybe we really will have to play in the back of a 7-11 for $20
@mellomoose_
8 ай бұрын
i'll bring the crt
This was such a huge moment for Mekk 5:48 If you didn't catch it on his stream, was an emotional moment, he has it up on his channel.
@das6235
8 ай бұрын
He was the first person in many many years to beat Hbox as Ganon and had a ridiculous record against him like 0-10. He also did it in a flipping 3-1! He already got 9th at Smash Con earlier this year but I’m sure we’re going to see even better from him when he overcomes his bracket demons like he just did.
Favorite moment for me was Hbox stalling his match so Mang0 could make it to bracket, only for him to not make it anyway because he was getting ice cream.
Came for the clickbait, stayed for the high quality recap💯
Thank you for correctly saying "raises the question" instead of "begs the question" (the logical fallacy).
@gorillagogetit
8 ай бұрын
english major moment
Walt: posts a video Me: time to stop grading papers to watch the video
Nintendo is like the kid at the playground thats says "NO YOU CANT PLAY LIKE THAT!"
@treehann
8 ай бұрын
I assume you mean Nintendo?
@Hyperion856
8 ай бұрын
@@treehann yeah lmao lemme fix that
@M64bros
8 ай бұрын
@@Hyperion856 what if those kids supported a community filled with 35-year-old neck beards That cry over a stupid 21-year-old game that no one's interested in and are p3dos and predators behind the scenes?
Thank you for all the effort you put into this channel. This is by far the Melee content i still go out of my way to consume when i dont watch others
Nintendo probably doesn't want us to play melee (at all)
@treehann
8 ай бұрын
this is true
@BKBK-yo1zz
7 ай бұрын
Soon the police will be at your door for playing melee
Good shit SFOP, but SUPER stoked to see Hax$ back in tournaments again ❤ It's been far too long
Your content is always an insta like! I really appreciate what you do for the smash community!
Awesome video as always, you're doing great stuff, keep it up :)
Coinbox was legendary
Nah you have it right without the parentheses. Youll see , everyone should just start practicing rivals of Aether now
@treehann
8 ай бұрын
Rivals 2 is looking so sick, cannot wait for the beta!
@jiraiya2000
8 ай бұрын
@@treehann it looks so sick , I watched some of the games from heatwave for rivals 1 and 2 . They are honestly great games .
@TJlolbagger
8 ай бұрын
It'll never be Melee.
@treehann
8 ай бұрын
@@TJlolbagger it doesn't have to be, the games can coexist. RoA1 isn't much like Melee though it is sick. RoA2 is going to be like a more accessible Melee so I'm excited to see more people get into the genre through it.
@TJlolbagger
8 ай бұрын
@treehann and I do hope that's the case, the original comment made it an "abandon ship for this completely different game" situation.
Nintendo doesn't want us to play Melee (at all)
Gonna miss this tournament, being in Ontario Canada makes it hard to actually go to major tournaments, and this gave me the chance to compete and play against top players like ChuDat (I got destroyed lol, but still). Never would've thought I'd get to Pichu ditto against one of the best of all time. Also, I posted full matches from the Coinbox on my channel if you want to see some full sets from the last couple of coinbox's :)
Melee 2024 here we come!!!
hmm, knowing nintendo doesnt want me playing a video game they made, I think im going to play my legally obtained copy of super smash brothers melee on a program called slippi for online matches
@ckorp666
8 ай бұрын
sticking it to nintendo isnt enough motivation for me to put up w/sweaty netplay falcos
@PeptoAbismol
8 ай бұрын
@@ckorp666 as a falcon player, I enjoy the challenge. but at the same time, I fucking hate falco.
lets go PreEm! just started entering my local scene and met the dude. Super nice guy
extremely frustrating that no one at nintendo with any power has the correct reaction to slippi (1. wow this is amazing 2. you can do that kind of stuff in this game? 3. there’s money to be made here? 4. let’s buy them out!!)
u da goat for these
Nintendo doesn't want us to play Melee in general.
@M64bros
8 ай бұрын
Maybe it's because of how awful the smash community is
@spaghettiking7312
8 ай бұрын
@@M64bros Nintendo still hated us even when the community was a lot better.
@M64bros
8 ай бұрын
@@spaghettiking7312 better? Last time I've heard they had a bunch of disgusting 35-year-old neck beards that cry over a stupid 21-year-old game that not every casual is interested in along with p3dos and predators behind the scenes
@spaghettiking7312
8 ай бұрын
@@M64bros I've been in the community for over ten years. The community back in the day was a bunch of teenagers. Only the older players today would be 35. Melee started to change quite a bit in 2014 with Twitter and all this stuff, but so have other communities. If you prefer a more casual game, don't play competitive Melee.
@M64bros
8 ай бұрын
@@spaghettiking7312 Exactly, which is why I'm grateful There's a respectful, casual side of Smash Brothers and I prefer that side over the toxic side/the people that complain about them losing in tournament match, not taking showers, rage quitting, screaming bloody murder and more 24/7. I love Super Smash Bros, Sakurai and his team of developers that worked really hard on this game along with the other developers at Nintendo that work on those games, but I will always hate its Toxic side of the Super Smash Bros community.
ty walt and hbox
I understand that in person events can cause all kinds of problems depending on the security at the respective venues but for Nintendo to try this hard to put the kybosh on online events which have no security risks is next level pettiness.
I no longer play Nintendo games, but I think I'll pirate a Nintendo game each time Nintendo makes yet another old-japanese-men anti-consumer decision. I'm not gonna play the pirated games, I'll just have it out of principle.
@ksad96
8 ай бұрын
It is morally correct to pirate all Nintendo games.
@M64bros
8 ай бұрын
@@ksad96 whole the complainers defend a disgusting community with a bunch of p3dos and predators behind the scenes
@M64bros
8 ай бұрын
Have you heard about what the Super Smash Bros community really is and how completely ungrateful they are?
@fukusamon4277
8 ай бұрын
@@M64broswho cares let them enjoy melee and enjoy your life
@IAMYAMAMA
8 ай бұрын
@@M64brosBASED TAKE
You think if we turned on items, they would be happy?
@treehann
8 ай бұрын
we have to have no sponsors, get no money, serve no food or water, and other stupid and ridiculous qualifications from their newest official guidelines
SFOP on the come up 🙌🏼
Just gonna drop the obligatory 'fuck Nintendo' right here
So sad to see the coinbox go. I have to just praise hbox for everything he has done. The man went from being hated by most players and fans, to being the most important online tourney TO. He was surprisingly good at being a host and made the tourneys very entertaining.
It's crazy that the Smash series has always been a celebration of gaming's legacies but refuses to even acknowledge its own.
Turn Down For Walt
I don't know why I thought HBox was entering multiple tournaments with random names to play as non-Puff characters. It took me way too long to realize he was simply commentating in the footage.
Title is a bit misleading / clickbaity, is it not? If you already know and understand the context it's an okay jab. But if you don't, you spend the video wondering when you'll transition into talking about the details of Nintendo's latest sabotage.
Love this thumbnail
Play P+
whaaaaaa did steech hbox happen off stream?
Any plans on Christmas sales for your merch store?
@turndownforwalt
8 ай бұрын
We should be putting on a discount for all of December!
Would have gone in harder on Nintendo here
Stop supporting Nintendo.
@M64bros
8 ай бұрын
How about we stop supporting a community filled with 35-year-old neck beard p3dos and predators behind the scenes? The Super Smash Bros community is awful and it got what it deserved
@nickrose1312
8 ай бұрын
Seriously. There are, like, three different melee-inspired platform fighters with developers that would WELCOME tournaments
Let them cook Nintendo
so you’re saying the company that shut down one of the greatest mods ever doesn’t like melee?!?!?!?!?!
Why no more coinbox?
Woooo go Steech!!
Gotta love how Zamu compliments her opponents
ggs blesse
So is this the last coinbox because nintendo threatening dmcas or something?
@Hammerhead0276
8 ай бұрын
New Nintendo community regulations stat that any tournament above 200 entrants that offers monetary prizes must adhere to a very stringent set of rules else Nintendo threatens legal action. Hbox wanted to try discuss the licensing w/Nintendo but Liquid had no desire to potentially face Nintendo in court, and simply mandated that Melee Coinbox online end. Ultimate Coinbox online got licensed and will continue and Melee Coinbox will have some in person invitational events but won't ever be online again for the forseeable future.
Bye coinbox !
*Hax getting third*
5:29 😭😭😭
Why does a Japanese game company have legal precedent on tourneys the world over?? Can we get a legal breakdown video??
@pennydime4562
8 ай бұрын
cause the own the rights to melee, any game company could decide to not let anyone stream their game or host tournaments for their games, legally speaking Nintendo is entirely in their right to not let anyone host tournaments for their game especially a modded version. they own the IP they decide what happens with it. is it morally right absolutely not but they can do it
@treehann
8 ай бұрын
Nintendo of America exists and it is their b*tch
Wth these people are HACKING!!! How are they so good? Wow awesome!
@firstaccnt
8 ай бұрын
wdym
Last time I was this early my girl left me 😂😂😂
Ah
Let's go preeminent
First
I hate Nintendo
Oh. Okay. At first I thought it was just nintendo being nintendo, but then I saw Crypto sponsors and now I don't feel as bad.
@danielurban3416
8 ай бұрын
Crypto sponsors are very much a product of Nintendo actively hating that SSBM is still going as a community. I don't love them or even like them, but they're willing to throw money at a community that could die out otherwise, so F*** it
@rorycannon7295
8 ай бұрын
no it is in fact nintendo being nintendo, the crypto sponsors are just extra spice
@ckorp666
8 ай бұрын
dont worry, esports is pivoting from crypto money to saudi money, in case the darkweb laundromat tokens weren't shady/evil enough for u :)
@esthersmith3056
8 ай бұрын
i never liked that the coinbox is crypto-sponsored, but nintendo's cracking down on melee tournaments in general
@cartercartercartercar
8 ай бұрын
one of the few justifiable use cases for crypto - funding activity made “illicit” by overzealous lawmakers. plus it’s easy to turn into money
Good, let Melee die and just play Ultimate.
@firstaccnt
8 ай бұрын
your mind is occupied by consumption