Yeah Nintendo does. In the switch generation alone, we’ve got: return to sandbox Mario, open world Zelda, Pikmin 4, a 3D Kirby game, a new 2D Metroid (and Dread at that) a Smash bros game with every character, Metroid Prime 4, and remakes of the most popular Mario RPG’s. We’re definitely gonna get new games in F-Zero, StarFox, and Tomadachi Life on Switch 2, Nintendo is digging into their older IP’s. The only thing I really want is a new Pikmin game that’s more like 3, but even then that’s probably gonna happen

@spendingfoil3964

Ай бұрын

NO Switch 2 🚫

@LunaCookie

Ай бұрын

We're still hoping for Pauline, Geno and Vivian to be newcomers in Mario Party Jamboree, aside from Ninji.

You can't please everyone.

@wantedasylum1091

Ай бұрын

Nintendo tries to, and fails successfully.

Did these people also forget about Ultimate? The whole idea behind that game was making longtime fans happy and getting in long requested charachters people wanted to see. Nintendo went to DISNEY for us guys don't tell me they don't listen to fans after that. And I'm willing to bet they will keep that philosphy in mind as we move to the next Smash Game. People keep thinking alot of the roster will be cut, but I keep saying I don't think we'll lose that many if you just take a moment to think about it. The third party companies especially have gotten really chummy with Nintendo since Ultimate ended. And of course there's all the non smash stuff we got this generation too. Yes I am bummed we did'nt get a new Starfox or Donkey Kong game yet, but I'm confident we won't be waiting too much longer for those either because both Metroid and F-zero were in a similar boat but we DID get new stuff for them during the Switch era. Plus there's alot of stuff I did get that I can be happy for now, I never dreamed we'd get a Mario rpg remake even as Square and Nintendo mended their relationship. Kirby finally got his big 3d game and it was fantastic. I could go on but the point is there is a clear sign Nintendo is willing to listen to fans alot more and I don't see that stopping as we move to the next system.

Nintendo always listens to fans, unfortunately every fan isn't singing the same tune

Bo, you're one of the few voices of reason in the Nintendosphere on YT. Nintendo has been blessing us and will continue to do so. Fans just have to be patient.

I think its a matter of people wanting to hate them because of how lawsuit heavy they can be and protective of their IP. It inspires that mentality. Metroid is a good example for me. I remember getting into the franchise 2015/2016 when it felt pretty much dead, and within a close proximity of one another, Nintendo shut down the AM2R fan remake (just as it released thankfully) and released Federation Force, which nobody wanted. Back then it felt like Nintendo didn't care about Metroid at all and were happy to let it die. Now, 8 years later, we're chillin with an official Metroid 2 remake, Metroid Prime 4 next year (and it looks true to the first 2 games), Metroid Prime getting a perfect remaster, and, like you said, Metroid Dread. They couldnt have changed their tune more perfectly, yet I still feel some level of bitterness over how they treated AM2R back in the day.

I mean, Nintendo undoubtably listens to fans. Not all the time, but they do, and that’s undeniable with the recent releases. But they’re also a business, and they don’t always take risks and let some niche franchises lay dormant. I don’t think we’re never gonna see F-Zero again or Star Fox or the like. But they also definitely let those franchises languish sometimes. And it’s not a matter of not listening to fans, it’s just a case of… they still can tend to play it safe, even when they give us these great new games. Like, sure, Thousand Year Door was huge for me, personally, as well as many others, but it’s a safe bet. It’s super widely acclaimed. DKC Returns is a safe bet because Donkey Kong is popular and the game did well. Zelda Echoes of Wisdom looks super creative and like a super cool game that gives many people what they’ve wanted, but again- it’s Zelda, so it’s a safe bet. Something like Advance Wars Reboot Camp, though, was a risk. They let WayForward remake a more niche title. Pikmin 4 did pretty well for Pikmin, and it’s a more niche franchise, plus they also gave us Pikmin 1 and 2 on Switch. They do also dip into the niche stuff and listen to fans there. I don’t want to say they let the niche series languish and don’t listen to fans for those, going back to that. The evidence is there, it’s just a matter of when they decide to get a project going for any given IP. Like, Metroid came back in a big way on Switch. They listen to fans, it’s just a matter of what they think the market wants. …And Yoshi. Since Yoshi games just kinda tend to happen and people just don’t seem to talk about them. Not that they’re not popular, they just don’t generate buzz.

Yeah they do this is why I hope Fossil Fighters returns!

Tell em, Bo 🗣 You're one of the best out there rn in the Nintendo community. Very perceptive and wise.

Funny how business works. They make a product we want, we buy. I’m so freakin stoked for Mario and Luigi. I’m a big fan of the series.

I still see some Nintendo Switch owners who've played the most recent switch games, and still choose to hate on Nintendo for arbitrary reasons, because they're old and still refuse to believe Nintendo is getting better. So yes, Nintendo does listen to their fans, but they've betrayed the trust of their older fans and especially their REALLY old fans. That being said, they still take their products seriously, even if the tone of most of their games tell you that you shouldn't.

The idea Nintendo n e v e r listens to fans is literally a myth I'll never understand why folks keep trying to peddle. What was the entire Smash Ballot then? That time they specifically added friend rooms to Mario Maker 2 due to backlash. Making Twilight Princess after the backlash about Wind Waker's more cartoony approach. They for sure pay attention to fan complaints. And dont get me wrong. They definitely do still beat to their own drums in a lot of ways. The fact they still haven't figured out how to have actually good standard online features is telling of that... lol. But the idea that they're completely in la la land 24/7 is a lie. Honestly sometimes I even think its for the best that they're selective with what demands they listen to. As some gaming fans just really don't have good ideas... at all. But I do hope they listen to more universal criticism going forward.

Considering the fact we've been getting a lot of interesting Nintendo surveys from earlier, it's pretty understandable that they do listen to us!

@therealjaystone2344

Ай бұрын

And it showed during the iwata days that Nintendo is better off without his leadership

The idea that Nintendo doesn't listen to its fan never even held water during the Wii and WiiU eras. Mistakes have been made but for the most part it was always just the complaining of whiny little children throwing a temper-tantrum until their favorite game gets mentioned again. No other company in gaming, (and few outside gaming) have managed to juggle so many IPs while also introducing new one and keep them relevant for decades.

You got to understand that its a lot more than just them not giving us a new entry. For Star Fox, nintendo hasn't been listening for years. Fans have been repeatedly been asking for a return to form for years but they either A. have a 3rd party make a game that doesn't resembles Starfox or B. Just remake the first game thats lesser. Whenever Nintendo makes a new starfox game its always attached to some stupid gimmick that sabotages the whole thing. Miyamotos "Gimmick First" philosophy is what consistently ruins the series because he makes a new game for the sake of a hardware gimmick rather then the IP itself. The whole reason why we didn't get a Wii entry is because Miyamoto couldn't find a unique gameplay style with the wii controller which is insane to me because that would have been the time to what he was doing with the Wii u but it WORKS. Speaking of, everything about Starfox Zero was because of the Wii U gamepad, even down to its story and presentation. It resembles 64 because he looked back at previous entries and thought that the 64 style suited his stupid gamepad gimmick. While yes Miyamoto stated in an interview that he wants to put more energy into Star Fox and Pikmin which has gotten its attention recently. Which might be leading to starfox in the future but again it's much less about getting a bunch of new entries but rather if their intentions. A new game would be nothing if they continue to do what they've been doing since the GC for StarFox. Unless the next Star Fox game is a Star Fox game with a NEW sequel story with ZERO hardware gimmicks, then yeah they don't listen. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason it didn't get a switch entry because the Switch didn't have a hardware gimmick for Miyamoto to use. Heck even going back to those GC titles and even that Starlink game has shown more respect for the series than Nintendo has. Star Fox Assault and Adventures expanded the StarFox universe with new planets, new Characters, and in the case of Assault EVOLVED the Star Fox formula. You know like how Nintendo does for mario or zelda. Star Fox Command while still being one of the worsed games did more of that and let us play other characters in the series. Something fans wanted to do but they just choose not to go back to for some reason. Hell Ubisoft treated them with more respect which how much research they did to faithfully implement them into Starlink. They mentioned Fox's home which most people wouldn't know about. They were able to implement Pukpuk eggs, a StarFox Adventures item into the corneria cake recipe as an Easter egg. How the HELL is ubisoft of all companies besting Nintendo when it comes to handling StarFox. It's one thing for Rare or Namco to do better but Ubisoft? That's just embarrassing. That's not even mentioning that Star Fox would be missing the Switch generation which you know has a bigger player base then the Wii U and previous consoles. Fans have been wanting it on the switch so it could have the switch effect because GOD knows how successful the follow up console will be. Not everyone got the switch for mario, dk, zelda, or fire emblem. I got a switch because I was excited for a new starfox game but all I got is a cameo in a open world ubisoft title and starfox 2. I've played and owned more 3rd party games then first party games. Make no mistake I WANT to be wrong. I want nintendo to surprise me with a NEW Star Fox Game with no hardware gimmick. I want to eat my dirty ass shoe but nintendos got to walk the walk. I KNOW that they are great gaming company, I know that they are better then Ubisoft which is why Star Fox fans are so God damn annoyed by their poor use of Star Fox. Star Fox use to be up there with Mario and zelda, 64 sold 5mil copies. It's not until they shafted StarFox in the GC era and Started to us it as a testing grounds for bad ideas that the decline happened. Then started looping the same game over and over. Nintendo just has to regain the good faith it use to have with StarFox fans. But until then, they don't listen.

@BoTalksGames

Ай бұрын

Ah yes, Star Fox, the series with...*counts* 7 entries, 1 remake and a sizeable cameo appearance in another game. We'll get a new Star Fox game soon.

@kurokamina8429

Ай бұрын

@@BoTalksGames did you even read my comment?

@kurokamina8429

Ай бұрын

​@@BoTalksGames It's not simply about getting a new entry, it's about actually putting in the same effort and polish that they put into their other IPs. It's about finally learning that their GIMMICK FIRST philosophy with Star Fox isn't at all the best way to go. Do gameplay first, do something new with the story like Star Fox Assault. Getting a new entry but not resolving these issues mean nothing as now that's the biggest expectation and demand. I just want people who don't know anything about Star Fox to understand that. Look at translated starfox interviews on the StarFox subreddit. Please. Again I actually want to be dead wrong, I want to eat my words but read from the horses mouth.

@bethanyh1637

Ай бұрын

I would rather see the series die than see Nintendo give you want you want. You don't even know what you want, but you'll bitch about it like you do.

@kurokamina8429

Ай бұрын

@@bethanyh1637 That's not our fault. Nintendo literally refuses to stay consistent with the series and changes when they don't need to. It's like if zelda fans never got another ocarina of time like game but instead get ones that play like fire emblem, or metroid prime, or a mario platformer. These things aren't what fans want for zelda but now it's a mess because new fans were created out of these other entries. Now we can't really come to a consensus BECAUSE Nintendo created a mixed fanbase. It's like the Paper Mario's situation but worse.

I mean they tried not listening to fans during the Wii U era and it failed

We’re missing the most important game… Wave race! 😌

which is why it's okay for people to be vocal about things they don't like, like these overpriced remasters!

hi BoTalksGames

10:00… I feel like Fans of Kid Icarus Especially me are starting to get very Disappointed by the lack of Any sort of news on Kid Icarus Uprising getting Remastered for Switch. The long wait for it really sucks, and the Silence isn’t helping… I just don’t understand what’s taking them so long.. If Luigi’s Mansion 2 can get a HD Remaster.. then Why can’t Kid Icarus Uprising? I understand it’s important that Sakurai needs to find the right team to get the Project going Smoothly.. but all hope seems very Slim.

Now they're just taking their sweet 🍑 time

They sure do. You pretty much nailed it.

Nintendo doesn't listen to traditional Zelda fans but you can't really blame them because they have no monetary reason to. It's too bad but it is what it is. I've already started to look at other games that might fill the traditional Zelda void

Nintendo listens to their consumers, not their fans

@Jobroski47

Ай бұрын

Citra + yuzu, fan project and game shutdowns, pricing remasters at 60 bucks when the original isnt even that expesive, the 17+ years of gmod assets that got taken down.

@technobladeleakedclips1827

Ай бұрын

​@@Jobroski47very true. Nintendo fans are delusional if they think the third worst company in gaming is listening to any of its fans

@_teem_

Ай бұрын

isn't that the same thing? the fans are the consumers

@Jobroski47

Ай бұрын

@@_teem_ fans make thinks that Nintendo doesn't, and then shut them down, not the same but do have overlap

@NintendoMania

Ай бұрын

​@technobladeleakedclips1827 did you not watch the video lol? Clearly they do listen

The starfox & F-zero fans are small...I wouldn't hold out hope for either of these, unless if the kids grow up want these franchises to return.

I never thought they'd ever try to remake Famicom Detective Club let alone bring it outside of Japan when they did, since I saw that happen I've believed anything has a chance which I didn't in the Wii U and 3DS era. Even Mother 3 despite the amount of people going on about it being 'impossible'. How long they'll take on these is another matter entirely of course.

All i want is a remake of earthbound or mother 3 in links awakening engine PLS

Ever since the critical reception on the first wave of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC, Nintendo improved each wave that the final wave was the greatest.

Listening to the fans is one thing, but communication is another. Honestly, I rather have Nintendo be more communicative with their fans and player base instead of secretive and hiding their moves so closely. I do not enjoy surprises that much at all, and I rather have some communicative manner between Nintendo and their fans. I mean Nintendo close down fan projects, C/D KZread videos that uses their music and don't sell it anywhere else and don't get me started on the E-Sport competition as not everyone of them are for prize money. Again I say: Listening to the fans is one thing, but communicating with the fans is another.

@Yoshizuyuner

Ай бұрын

Tbh some people would probably buy into their games for music alone

We need more fans to demand Mother 3, because they're not listening!

Spot on

ok buddy golden sun? let's not get too carried away here

Nintendo listens to it's shareholders, not any of you fanboys

@_teem_

Ай бұрын

@@technobladeleakedclips1827 with the recent releases that's objectively false. Thousand year door did not sell well back then at all. It's because the game gets constantly mentioned in the fanbase that they decided to give it another chance. And that's with other games too like Mario and Luigi. the latest 2 games sold poorly and the studio went bankrupt. pretty risky move to bring this series back imo. Metroid only exists for hardcore fans aswell. metroid never sold that well and yet they put this much time into it.

@technobladeleakedclips1827

Ай бұрын

@@_teem_ 1. Ttyd sold incredible well way better then the gamecube game. Why would ninyendo revive all 3 mario rpg series in less then one year just out of nowhere? Its because maruo sells no matter what, and rn mario has 4 pillars, the 2d games, the 3d games, the party games, and kart. Nintendo shareholders demanded rpg spinoffs all return so that a fifth pillar can be added 2. Metroid prime 4 was canceled in 2022 after years of development because nintendo and retro studios were getting nowhere. I know this for a fact, I was informed of its cancelation directly because I am the copyright holder for the licensed music they used in the 2022 trailer, which they demanded a refund for once the cancelation was finalized. Nintendo shareholders were not happy with the cancelation and demanded nintendo rework the scrapped game into something new. They hired a bunch of ex bungie employees to make the game into something coherent for what was originally supposed to be a 2024 release, delayed to 2025 to launch in tandem with the next console

@_teem_

Ай бұрын

somehow I don't believe you are the copyright holder of the music they used 😅 also they officially announced they had to redevelop the game in an official announcement video. you don't have to be involved with anything they did to know this. point is metroid never sold well so the fact they decided to continue to make it happen despite the original studio failing shows that they care. Why would they put so much time and effort into something that never had massive success?​@@technobladeleakedclips1827

@knux333jw

Ай бұрын

@@technobladeleakedclips1827 what is bro fuckin yappin about with these lies 😭

@technobladeleakedclips1827

Ай бұрын

@@knux333jw bro sees any fact he dislikes and just says its lie