Thank you for including the XH2s in this comparison 👊

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

@arantesFilms

25 күн бұрын

I think XH2s performs better than Nikon till 8000 iso. Colors are more pleasing

@nigerian-nightmare

25 күн бұрын

​@@arantesFilmsxh2s is a great camera both in noise and dynamic range. Much better camera than z6iii if you ask me but some people seem to overlook it because it has crop sensor. It can also shoot black magic RAW with video assist.

@jessejayphotography

25 күн бұрын

@@nigerian-nightmareI agree. For a S35 sensor it punches above its weight in DR and latitude with pleasing noise pattern.

Nikon needs to make a NLog2 asap. NLog is the strangest log I’ve ever worked with. It heavily favors low ISO and it works best in the shadows which is very foreign to other systems. ADVICE TO ALL NEW NIKON SHOOTERS. Never ever over expose Nlog. Trust your waveform. I know my Z8 gets you nearly 2-3 stops in the shadows. Certainly in lower ISO values.

@russellwright9961

25 күн бұрын

Thanks for your insight!

@waynerm002

25 күн бұрын

Good advice. A lot of Sony shooter (myself included) have been used to this method for recording SLog and it's like a default, so we may expect this on Nikon as well. I've experimented with the Z8 shooting 8.3K NRAW NLog in Program and Manual, Program tends to push the ISO up higher but the image comes out good, so I tend to follow the waveform and tweak to match in Manual mode when (night situations) I can. I have even been able to clean up noise very well in Davinci Resolve, for most people, shooting in SDR will be fine, NLOG for some tweaks and RAW for even greater grading.

@danielvilliers612

24 күн бұрын

@@waynerm002 Yep the Nikon log format is a bit contrasty as the first Canon one was. It makes their dynamic rnge look bad as they crush the shadows to eliminate noise. The CineD lab test of the z9 is quite revealing, while the z9 scored quite bad in the Xyla/Imatest test, it was at the time the best Sony based sensor camera in the real life latitude test with between 8 and 9 stops. Until the Burano, which again scored poorly on the synthethic Xyla/Imatest test, but reached 10 Stops of latitude, being first camera to reach the classic Alexa Alev sensor.

As always great job with the testing man.

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

Thanks Brandon!

I really appreciate your videos, Josh. They are objective and fair, and I always come away more informed.

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate you watching!

Doing great work . keep it up bro 👍🫶

@Josh_Sattin

26 күн бұрын

Thanks. Will do!

The XH2S is a little weapon.

Great Video as always. People are asking me about the less stops of Dynamic Range of the Z6III. Tony Chelsea did a video on this. I did a test walking around inside in the dark and I thought it did well. I even did a candle light test. It did well. Now Nikon does do a HLG ISO 400 as a minimun same as Zf. I thought the Z6III was a (BSI) Partial Stack Sensor not CMOS at 10:25 time? Will rewatch your Dynamic Range test. I got the R5C, Z6III and Love them Both! Cheers!

@brandonklemets2958

25 күн бұрын

Stacked sensors are technically also BSI sensors. Stacked is the next technological advancement in BSI sensors and the consumer lingo has not adapted yet. This is why the fully stacked Z8 sensor performs better than the Z6III even though people have this misconception that non-stacked BSI sensors are better at low light than stacked sensors.

@randallbrander8157

25 күн бұрын

@@brandonklemets2958 That is what I thought but I have seen that it is a CMOS Sensor that is stacked. So where did they get there info. I have tried searching on Nikon website which I cannot find any info so now I am going to try Ricci who works for Nikon in England. Cheers!

I really like your videos and how throughout you are. I would love to see a camera comparison between all the Nikons that you have recently reviewed. As a Z8 owner, I would love to know how they perform against each other, and try to decide between a Zf and a Z6 III.

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I do not have the Z8 or Zf as they were loaners.

Thanks, Josh! Was considering the z6iii, but think I will hang on to my s1h. Use it with video assist - which seems to produce good images. Just not sure Nikon, despite the internal raw, is an upgrade at this point. Had the bmcc 6k ff for a while, but struggled with the from factor. Oh well. Maybe the Pyxis at some point. Great work, as usual!

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

we love you because you show us what is hidden

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

Great video. Pretty good performance for a high speed video centric Z6iii. I think once the prices drop in time, this will be a great hybrid camera.

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you for the helpful video. I'm very interested because I heard that the Z6 III shoots built-in RAW. I tested it at Nikon Shop. It's strange to bring it to Da Vinci. Nikon RAW seemed to have LOG applied, but it was released when I selected Clip. Is this a feature of Nikon RAW? I think the DR is lower than the XH2S, is that correct? Would you recommend someone who shoots the ProRes HQ on the XH2S to switch to this camera? Depending on personal preference, Nikon RAW seems to be more difficult to adjust color than XH2S. The LCD is large and has a nice waveform. I'm not sure yet. The reason why NRAW is a bit heavy on the computer, and surprisingly, is because of the Viltrox 27mm 1.2 lens. I really like this lens. I also tested Nikon's new 35mm 1.8 lens, but that lens had no features other than the aperture. Please give us a lot of good videos. Oh, for reference, how does Nikon's RAW compare to R5's RAW? I shot a feature film and did color grading with the R5, but it was so hard I thought I was going to die haha. That's why I switched to Fuji. I don't think Canon's RAW is good unless it has a video sensor. Thank you for reading the long comment.

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

You're welcome. Yes, NLOG is applied in your NLE when you bring the NRAW footage in. I haven't tested and compared the dynamic range of the X-H2S and Z6III. I compared Z6III NRAW vs R5C RAW ST in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z3pqrrqglqi3nLA.html You can see my full playlist of Nikon videos here: kzread.info/head/PLOcCMZeEA6tpF-RtpVGNnsKhzfuaBsWcr

Fuji colours and performance looks best for me. Thank you for the test 😊

Just like to know your experience with heating/overheating profile in Z6iii ( sorry if i've missed in any of your earlier videos)

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

I haven't tested this yet, but I plan to.

I like how they(nikon) packed this camera with features that most people love. It does seem the weak point is the dynamic range of the sensor. I don't know if this type of sensor is a first but I would expect better performance in the future.

Referring to what you said at 10:32 regarding the Z6III not having a BSI sensor. A stacked sensor is the next technological level and surpasses a BSI. You get all the advantages of BSI plus the faster speed. By definition, stacked means BSI. In the early days the wiring that took the charge off of the photodiode was on top of the light sensing layering, meaning it blocked some of the light hitting the photodiode. BSI reversed that and moved the wiring to behind the photo sensitive layer but makes it more expensive to produce. A stacked sensor adds additional layers where the processing and DRAM are part of the sensor itself to move data off faster. These wouldn't be possible if they were placed in front of the photodiode. Thanks for the comparison

@Josh_Sattin

11 күн бұрын

You're welcome. I haven't seen Nikon state BSI on their website for the Z6III where as they do for the Z8 and Z9. Maybe because it is a partially stacked sensor this changes things.

@rubelukeable

11 күн бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin B&H previously stated that the Z8/9 were BSI SENSORS, but now just state CMOS in their SPECS section. Nikon just states Stacked CMOS. I was really curious since I’m torn between the Z8 and Z6 3. I’m more on the photography side and seldom do video. What do you advise?

@Josh_Sattin

11 күн бұрын

I don't do much photography so unfortunately I can't really give recommendations on that. I'm sure there are other channels that cover that.

Hi, i have a little question about the Z6III, i saw it have hi-rez zoom, 1,4 time in 4K and 2 time in 1080p but is there some restriction about the framerate to use it ? or is it available in every framerate as long as you aren't in crop mod ?

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to test that stuff out yet.

@waynerm002

25 күн бұрын

Check out the Z6 III technical guide on Nikon's website, it provides the information you are looking for.

Thank you! I do a lot of night filming and film the sky , for doing my own filming for others I need to be able to put on heavy Color grades that won’t break the image. Would you suggest this Nikon over the Sony a7 mark 4? I only need 4K but someday might want 6k, but the low light stuff is more important to me than the other stuff. Usually 24fps just because of the extra light with it, being able to lower the shutter by a fraction. Anyways, do you think this is a better option? I have e mount (Sony) lenses so I am a but frustrated if I’d have to switch but I would sell them to get something gr8 and start fresh. What do you think?

I wonder how the Z8 compares. I don't really do video and my knowledge on that is very limited, but the DR is nearly identical from ISO 800 onward, and as a wildlife shooter, I've never felt like the DR on my Z8 is an issue. From a photographers' standpoint, I feel like this whole discussion is blown way out of proportion. Nobody cared about the Z9 being worse than the Z7 II in this regard, now it's suddenly a huge deal. Anyway, thanks for testing and sharing the results, very interesting.

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

that x-h2s tho... the sad part is, it will kick ass in the DR test as well, even with the smaller sensor.. Z6III is fantastick non the less, and gives me high hopes for the future of Nikon!

Where did you get the info that this isn't a BSI sensor, everywhere I've looked says this is. Plus all Nikon sensors are made by Sony and I'm not sure they even make non BSI sensors of this size anymore

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

"24.5MP Partially-Stacked CMOS Sensor" www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1834803-REG/nikon_z6_iii_mirrorless_camera.html "At the heart of the Z6III is a partially-stacked 24.5MP CMOS sensor and EXPEED 7 processor" www.nikonusa.com/p/z6iii/1890?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjws560BhCuARIsAHMqE0G6jmQ6p50SYpGFeSbfvvEmOenpg25Gx93UV355kj4ZA7j46Mtc7h8aAklFEALw_wcB

@maxpovey6877

25 күн бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin This has made me less sure but if you look at their listing for their stacked sensors in the z8/9 they also don't mention it as BSI, I think because having a stacked sensor necessitates BSI. I'm not sure whether this is the same for the Z6 where partially stacked also implies BSI so they don't mention it, or of its front side illuminated. BTW thanks for the vid its great to see testing like this

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

You're welcome. From what I have noticed over the past few years testing and reviewing cameras, if it is BSI it will say it in the specs and marketing material. For example the Sony A1, Canon R3 and Nikon Z8/Z9 have stacked BSI sensors. I don't see any mention of BSI on the Nikon Z6III pages.

@Philly2tall

25 күн бұрын

@@maxpovey6877 This is my understanding of a stack sensors being BSI by default. Not sure if changes with being partially stacked, but I doubt it.

@waynerm002

25 күн бұрын

It is a partially stacked BSI CMOS sensor. CMOS is the basic design of modern sensors, moving away from CCD, BSI CMOS technology is an improvement over the base design, next comes the Stacked (and partially stacked) BSI CMOS design and the top performer the Global Shutter which moves from fast scanning speed of Stacked design to instantaneous readout.

Please compare the nikon z6iii with sony a7iv

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I do not have an A7IV.

"I can only own so many cameras..." Thats when I new he was not a "true" photographer. 🤣. Kidding of course. Thanks for the content and comparison. Own a z6i and even that camera is really impressive at high ISO.

What about Sony fx3 compared to these?

@Josh_Sattin

24 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I don’t have a FX3.

@johannesimmonen2125

24 күн бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin you made some comparison earlier about it and fx30

@Josh_Sattin

24 күн бұрын

@@johannesimmonen2125 I haven’t had the FX3 or FX30 at the same time as having a Nikon camera.

Darn, low light is something I have to deal with a lot, since I shoot a lot if real estate videos. Seems like the noise performance and dynamic range of my Panasonic S5 in CROP mode at 4K 60fps is as good or better than the full frame modes on the Z6 III.

@m0nztam0nk

25 күн бұрын

Did we watch the same video tho? He, as a channel seems very critical of the z6iii, but if you pay close attention, esp. in RAW the z63 with its second iso basically beats every other cam, especially when yoh look at the detail of his beard, he praises the canon (because the noise on his charts looks better) while missing that the detail in his hairs and beard has gone… Tbh tho, its splitting hairs. To me, coming from Sony a7s3, the biggest upgrade is internal raw, especially in low and mixed light the colour reproduction is far superior, but i have to do the Noise Reduction in post. I much prefer my colourful nighttime Results form the z6iii to the iso 12800 cleansmeared a7s3 that had almost no colour differentiation left… But im now clearly biased towards Nikon as internal 4k60 raw is such a gamechanger for me, that ofc. im not objective either.

@Josh_Sattin

25 күн бұрын

FYI, I manually focus on the chart and sometimes I am not sitting in exactly the same spot as I am doing these tests myself and have to get up to change the camera settings. The focus might be a bit off on my face. That's why I use the chart to determine noise and sharpness. I include myself in there so that you can keep an eye on skin tones. Thanks for watching!

Wow, Z6 III is just an overall beast.

Fujilfilm when are you going to fix your autofocus for the last. FUJI has everything except autofocus and they dont seem to care. Always releasing half baked cameras.

@peterra2532

24 күн бұрын

In photo, the DR of the xh2s is worse than the z6iii, in video if you film in h265, the f-log 2 is better...but if you film in raw on the z6iii. you will be able to have the same flat curve as the f-log2 and even better. The advantage of the xh2s is over anamorphic and open gate...the z6iii has the FF look, the possibility of filming in APSC if you want, better AF and the 6k60 raw internally

@astromoosie

19 күн бұрын

@@peterra2532I don’t know why Nikon hasn’t released an open gate feature for their z8/z6iii. Do you think it has the hardware capabilities?

@peterra2532

19 күн бұрын

@@astromoosie I don’t know why too…I don’t think it is because of hardware capabilities as z8 and z6iii as better hardware than s5ii (which also offer open gate too)…

Hard pass on the Nikon Z6iii